i gota disagree with the below post,, Al was better off going industrial/industrial metal after WS, the 1 thing that did kinda hurt him latter one was his insane hatred of George Bush, sure he was a shitty president and making album about him wasnt bad, but 3 whole albums? imo tho, the onyl bad albums he made were With Sympathy and Last Sucker, all the in between records were great
@hellchild65 i would have to disagree the last sucker was a great album i think he lost it with filth pig and darkside of the spoon even though there's maybe 2 good songs of those albums
@parlock480 i hope your kidding , those compared to most of the shitty, overly paranoid songs off of Last Sucker and Grande Blood, those albums were definitely geared towards the more metal audiences with little thought, i, and many ministry fans would gladly take Filth Pig of Last Sucker any day
For those asking about the topic of the show, it was kind of a local Chicago follow-up to a show Donahue had previously done in Los Angeles about punk rock and the Parents of Punkers group, but with "new wave" added. I'd love to get hold of more video of this. I'm the chubby chick sitting next to Al on stage, by the way... looong story.
Public lynching..The early 80's had so many of these kinds of talkshows trying to establish order and some kind of values to the viewer..saw the danger in this back then and I see it still going on FOX NEWS!! as obvious to me now as it was then...
If you actually listen to the very first singles on Wax Trax, and 12 Inch Singles, they sound like With Sympathy outtakes, demos and songs from that era
You can believe the bullshit story Al says that he "didn't write any of it" but his name is on those songs, and everyday is halloween is one of the many songs that would have fit on With Sympathy easily.
I was an audience member once on the Phil Donahue show and was from his hometown, and he couldn't care less when we had the "meet and greet" after the show when I shook his hand and told him that....not a very sincere fellow in my opinion....so his response to Al doesn't surprise me either.........
Al should have busted Phildo in his pasty ass face. Phildo is such a condescending asshole, that thinks his shit doesn't stink and doesn't deserve to smell Al's shit!!!
Phil seems to be condescending as usual. The theme must be to showcase all these "new wavers" as freak show characters. At least when the late Tom Snyder had these guys on (the Late Show), he new he didn't have a clue who they were, but didn't try to denigrate them.
Al! is that you? Whats happened man? You look all like Bananarama's brother, do you really want to hurt me? You could, like, damage your image, like, totally. Gag me with a spoon. You are like so tripindicular or something
From new wave to industrial to doom metal. Can any other band match that journey? I love the early stuff through Pslam 69. I've started checking out some of the later material but a lot of it is too dark and metallic for my tastes (but I am warming up to some of it). Still Al rules regardless! Oh and yes, he is definitely high as a kite in this clip, lol.
not drugs he hates that era and hates his image back then you can tell he did not want to even be on there i noticed that in the 10 secs of talk time he had in this clip
I like Ministry's synth-pop and industrial work better than his newer metal stuff. "Twitch" is my favorite album. His style was so much more unique back then...but he's always been an in-yer-face bad-ass! Just doin his thang and not givin a fuck what player-haters be sayin!! AL RULES!!!!
I thought Al is a cool enough music lover who did well for himself with a lot of hard work, starting at Recycled Records in Rogers Park, Chicago, and rocking in the band Special Affect circa 1980 (the era I first knew him), before moving along and making many music industry contacts and busting out with Ministry. It figures some people to this day would try to tear him down, so I ask: What have any of them tangibly produced in the way of art, besides troll postings on youtube?
@angelforfreedom I think Ministry's peak was 88-92, with that awesome trio of albums. After that, the drugs started to wear off and yer left with a somewhat boring, washed-up rock band.
Interestingly, Chemlab put out an AMAZING album in 1993, and could have easily become the next Ministry had industrial rock not suddenly gone out of fashion.
@Sesquipedaliantique i don't entirely disagree, but i think the drugs got stronger not wore off. (see dark side of the spoon and filth pig not respectively). to be honest, i think he came back hard with rio grande blood and before that houses of the mole was pretty remniscent of psalm 69 and such. in my opinion
@surrealebm I think the comeback albums had the good ol' aggressive bite, but weren't as warped as 69. Psalm 69 had all kinds of wonderfully fucked up looped, sample, reversed, chopped up & sped up riffs, kind of like a heavy metal band being swallowed up and spat out by an early industrial musician armed with tape machines.
Which I *think* is what Al was going for. If not, it rocks anyway.
How this guy has gotten away with being the biggest poser in the history of music and still having cred as a "heavy" artist is absolutely beyond me. I remember a romantic guy in High School whose locker was covered with pictures of Boy George, the dude from Kajagoogoo, and good old Al. Oh yeah, of course, the record company made you dress like that.
even if they didn't make him dress like that, who cares? people change. no biggy. i love him either way. i love him more because of his insecurities and flaws. it makes him human. like the rest of us.
Not...he's a gross biker now with booze fat wrapping around his body like whale blubber. My god, back in his prime if he wanted to Al could have easily pursued a fruitful career in modeling but you abuse your body with cocaine, heroin, booze, cigarettes and greasy Texas barbecue, you're not gonna age well man...he totally looks like a porky white male version of Whoopi Goldberg now with that ridiculous fake dread locks hairstyle...it's so fuckiung sad but funny as hell at the same time, lol.
Yeah, what a fuckin' letdown. Al coulda been something and had a "fruitful career in modeling" (?!) but instead he chose the disgraceful path of Ministry! And now he's getting older too, almost like he's...HUMAN or something.
No wonder Al is such a drug addict now.
StanHowser 1 week ago
How much brain damage does it take before you could possibly think going on a tabloid talk show would be a good idea?
The world may never know.
gangurobitch 4 months ago
I personally think Al Jourgensen should bring back the Robert Smith haircut.
existmental 4 months ago 3
Funny considering how much Jello talks crap about Donahue. There is even the lard song in which they mention him.... (Phil Donahue got his wish...)
poisonedremnant 4 months ago
all ministry kicks ass you whiny buttholes
aaronwanker1 4 months ago
That's awesome! Too bad you didn't have more.
kelzclive 5 months ago
i gota disagree with the below post,, Al was better off going industrial/industrial metal after WS, the 1 thing that did kinda hurt him latter one was his insane hatred of George Bush, sure he was a shitty president and making album about him wasnt bad, but 3 whole albums? imo tho, the onyl bad albums he made were With Sympathy and Last Sucker, all the in between records were great
hellchild65 6 months ago
@hellchild65 i would have to disagree the last sucker was a great album i think he lost it with filth pig and darkside of the spoon even though there's maybe 2 good songs of those albums
parlock480 5 months ago
@parlock480 i hope your kidding , those compared to most of the shitty, overly paranoid songs off of Last Sucker and Grande Blood, those albums were definitely geared towards the more metal audiences with little thought, i, and many ministry fans would gladly take Filth Pig of Last Sucker any day
hellchild65 5 months ago
al was great until he went fag douche metal
TheNewMusicNetwork 6 months ago
For those asking about the topic of the show, it was kind of a local Chicago follow-up to a show Donahue had previously done in Los Angeles about punk rock and the Parents of Punkers group, but with "new wave" added. I'd love to get hold of more video of this. I'm the chubby chick sitting next to Al on stage, by the way... looong story.
empresswuhu 9 months ago
@empresswuhu Always down for a long, strange tale...
j37h3r 9 months ago 2
@j37h3r The topic of this show was something like Mothers against punks i think. Al said in one interview that they muted his mic.
v73k1 4 months ago
@empresswuhu That's cool... What year was this exactly? God, I miss the 80s! :(
MaliBootyz 8 months ago
@empresswuhu LOL! Nevermind, I just saw the info at the bottom, duh! LOL!
MaliBootyz 8 months ago
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Villemorien 3 months ago
@empresswuhu Someone uploaded the full thing somewhere a couple months back. I'll try to find it for you.
jwatson626 3 months ago
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"you know what you are"
erectacocky 10 months ago
Public lynching..The early 80's had so many of these kinds of talkshows trying to establish order and some kind of values to the viewer..saw the danger in this back then and I see it still going on FOX NEWS!! as obvious to me now as it was then...
edisonoside 10 months ago
Okay that was a pointless post >:(
laughorgomad 1 year ago
If you actually listen to the very first singles on Wax Trax, and 12 Inch Singles, they sound like With Sympathy outtakes, demos and songs from that era
You can believe the bullshit story Al says that he "didn't write any of it" but his name is on those songs, and everyday is halloween is one of the many songs that would have fit on With Sympathy easily.
LivingWorstNightmare 1 year ago
FAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
; )
novoneiro 1 year ago
I was an audience member once on the Phil Donahue show and was from his hometown, and he couldn't care less when we had the "meet and greet" after the show when I shook his hand and told him that....not a very sincere fellow in my opinion....so his response to Al doesn't surprise me either.........
veggie74 1 year ago
What was the topic of the show?
TomFromJersey 1 year ago
Thanks for posting.
myownme7772010 1 year ago
Al should have busted Phildo in his pasty ass face. Phildo is such a condescending asshole, that thinks his shit doesn't stink and doesn't deserve to smell Al's shit!!!
NickCave13 1 year ago 2
Phil seems to be condescending as usual. The theme must be to showcase all these "new wavers" as freak show characters. At least when the late Tom Snyder had these guys on (the Late Show), he new he didn't have a clue who they were, but didn't try to denigrate them.
cyprixx 1 year ago 2
Hilarious. I never knew the pseudo-beatnik knucklehead was in Duran Duran at one point...
FedorEight 1 year ago
i'm gonna pretend i never saw this !@#$%^&^$%
emjr65 1 year ago
@emjr65 right on.
drew7473 1 year ago
lol al looks funny here look at that stupid earring he must have been on some good stuff back then.
royalnash 1 year ago
Al! is that you? Whats happened man? You look all like Bananarama's brother, do you really want to hurt me? You could, like, damage your image, like, totally. Gag me with a spoon. You are like so tripindicular or something
Locust1313 1 year ago
Beeeeeee...che cazzo?
malmswax 1 year ago
lol someone said garbage
TheBigDickInYourAss 1 year ago
still lmao at als response
SplatterdaySaints 1 year ago
its not all the video but its still pricless prob couldnt find it no where else on the web
SplatterdaySaints 1 year ago
LOL at ALs response every time
SplatterdaySaints 1 year ago
where's the rest of the vid?
UncleAlianJ 1 year ago
That's all I have. This was passed along for years from friends I knew from dub to dub, as this was all before the days of youtube.
j37h3r 1 year ago 5
Here's the rest, thanks internet!
watch?v=UGOQUahAmxg
j37h3r 1 month ago
ROFL!!!!
circleofthirteen 1 year ago
Oh if Phil could see Al now.
Nephilimfields 1 year ago
9/11 was an inside
ThatOneGuy831 1 year ago
From new wave to industrial to doom metal. Can any other band match that journey? I love the early stuff through Pslam 69. I've started checking out some of the later material but a lot of it is too dark and metallic for my tastes (but I am warming up to some of it). Still Al rules regardless! Oh and yes, he is definitely high as a kite in this clip, lol.
lschultz2001 2 years ago 3
yeah this guy tries to rip on artist Marilyn manson was on this show too
TinF00L 2 years ago
What is the point of this interview??
Was phil just trying to make alain and the other new wavers of the time look dumb??
shame on phil :(
rivotrich7 2 years ago
@rivotrich7 i bet it was a 'look at the youth of today!' type of show... stupid...
reminds me of the scene from party monster with john stamos as the host.
virus058910 2 years ago
not drugs he hates that era and hates his image back then you can tell he did not want to even be on there i noticed that in the 10 secs of talk time he had in this clip
SplatterdaySaints 2 years ago
drugs.
renton66 2 years ago 2
This is hilarious!
Rockgod2099 2 years ago
I like Ministry's synth-pop and industrial work better than his newer metal stuff. "Twitch" is my favorite album. His style was so much more unique back then...but he's always been an in-yer-face bad-ass! Just doin his thang and not givin a fuck what player-haters be sayin!! AL RULES!!!!
angelforfreedom 2 years ago 23
I thought Al is a cool enough music lover who did well for himself with a lot of hard work, starting at Recycled Records in Rogers Park, Chicago, and rocking in the band Special Affect circa 1980 (the era I first knew him), before moving along and making many music industry contacts and busting out with Ministry. It figures some people to this day would try to tear him down, so I ask: What have any of them tangibly produced in the way of art, besides troll postings on youtube?
SteveinTokyo
bandbeyonddescriptio 2 years ago 17
@angelforfreedom I think Ministry's peak was 88-92, with that awesome trio of albums. After that, the drugs started to wear off and yer left with a somewhat boring, washed-up rock band.
Interestingly, Chemlab put out an AMAZING album in 1993, and could have easily become the next Ministry had industrial rock not suddenly gone out of fashion.
Sesquipedaliantique 1 year ago 2
@Sesquipedaliantique i don't entirely disagree, but i think the drugs got stronger not wore off. (see dark side of the spoon and filth pig not respectively). to be honest, i think he came back hard with rio grande blood and before that houses of the mole was pretty remniscent of psalm 69 and such. in my opinion
surrealebm 1 year ago
@surrealebm I think the comeback albums had the good ol' aggressive bite, but weren't as warped as 69. Psalm 69 had all kinds of wonderfully fucked up looped, sample, reversed, chopped up & sped up riffs, kind of like a heavy metal band being swallowed up and spat out by an early industrial musician armed with tape machines.
Which I *think* is what Al was going for. If not, it rocks anyway.
Sesquipedaliantique 1 year ago
@Sesquipedaliantique well put.
surrealebm 1 year ago
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what the hell, glad he isn't a pussy anymore
6999999METAL6666669 2 years ago
Like Uncle Al would say "You are what you eat..."
j37h3r 2 years ago
You're a dumbshit
Deathkill06 2 years ago
u like sell outs? thats cool bro
dumbfuck poser
6999999METAL6666669 2 years ago
I do, you do too apparently.
Deathkill06 2 years ago
obvious troll is obvious
Deathkill06 2 years ago
nnQQ lmk when you grow some balls, kthx
6999999METAL6666669 2 years ago
Al's dad has Norwegian heritage, but I don't know about mom.
ewconnection 2 years ago
Al's stepdad was Norwegian, his real mom and dad were cubans
Deathkill06 2 years ago 2
I heard dad was a Swedish race car driver and mom was Cubano, but whatevs, I could be wrong. It would explain the Dodge Challenger SRT-8 tho.
t1201971 1 year ago
wow, they even had video back then...
deemilieu 2 years ago 3
MOARRRR
zincink 2 years ago
why the hell was he on donahue?
rcastaldo666 2 years ago
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How this guy has gotten away with being the biggest poser in the history of music and still having cred as a "heavy" artist is absolutely beyond me. I remember a romantic guy in High School whose locker was covered with pictures of Boy George, the dude from Kajagoogoo, and good old Al. Oh yeah, of course, the record company made you dress like that.
chubs4435 2 years ago
even if they didn't make him dress like that, who cares? people change. no biggy. i love him either way. i love him more because of his insecurities and flaws. it makes him human. like the rest of us.
korndud 2 years ago 3
What was the topic of this Donahue episode? New Wave Gone Bad?
astrolabjiggy1 2 years ago 3
Or maybe Hair gone bad :)
rivotrich7 2 years ago
After being a fan of Ministry in their early years, lolliwag went to ministry show in the early 90's and has been crying ever since.
tkpshane 2 years ago
i need to see the rest of this bad
JakeSpade79 2 years ago 4
I remember watching this! this brought me back! Thanks
lvampira 2 years ago
Gawd he was such a sexy young man ...and still is
Scum71succer 2 years ago
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Not...he's a gross biker now with booze fat wrapping around his body like whale blubber. My god, back in his prime if he wanted to Al could have easily pursued a fruitful career in modeling but you abuse your body with cocaine, heroin, booze, cigarettes and greasy Texas barbecue, you're not gonna age well man...he totally looks like a porky white male version of Whoopi Goldberg now with that ridiculous fake dread locks hairstyle...it's so fuckiung sad but funny as hell at the same time, lol.
lolliwag 2 years ago
I hate to break this to you, but folks who don't use drugs age too. Often just as badly.
skanktimonious 2 years ago 2
Yeah, what a fuckin' letdown. Al coulda been something and had a "fruitful career in modeling" (?!) but instead he chose the disgraceful path of Ministry! And now he's getting older too, almost like he's...HUMAN or something.
evolunacy2 2 years ago 3
disgraceful???????? naw man, ministry rules
flaym3d18 2 years ago
@flaym3d18
He was being sarcastic. :-)
Lateralus281 2 years ago 3
he looks so young. Wow heroin is a helluva drug
Arbow1986 2 years ago
lol some dude in the crowd says "garbage
azrial4421 2 years ago 2
This was almost 30 years ago.
VinMetal666 2 years ago
wow, he was 25 in 1983? he has held up pretty damn good over the years. i'm a little drunk but i think that makes him like 60?
DarthMink 2 years ago
he's 50.
cheapy2006 2 years ago
That makes Donahue 90?
d00derman 2 years ago
@DarthMink yea, al's got a nice bald spot on the back of his head behind all those dreads. :)
funeralhome 1 year ago
lo maximo este desgraciado jajaja
josereinaldo 2 years ago
oh my god !! the early days of ministry !
peavy69 2 years ago
I have been looking for this for years..Awesome, I remember seeing this when it came on.
turbotikigod 2 years ago
He was probably high on H.
VinMetal666 2 years ago 3
this is hilarious. thank you.
batsinmybed 2 years ago
My favorite part is the last 25% of the clip - black screen.
TurkBack2 2 years ago
Music was a temporary job for Al?
StanAlter 3 years ago
Take that all industrial people. Those were the Boy George years. I just don't like the Sound of Ministry after 89.
Dubwise4u 3 years ago 2
but you refer to the part you do like as the boy george years? i like both eras, even if al disowns the early shit.
MexicanHumanoid 2 years ago 2
that was cruel,where's the rest of the show?Donahue,what a dick !!!
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cman7142000 3 years ago 6
Ummmmm.... Explain? Drugs? Toolin fer hairy anus? Just don't get it....
HHDV 3 years ago
Does anyone have the entire video?
Schlitzie64 3 years ago 2
What the fuck hahaha, shit al, dammit
charlesneyando33 3 years ago
It's funny because it's true.
carmangary 3 years ago 3
Oh, WOW.
This is fucking GREAT.
icepickmessiah1010 3 years ago 3