John Crowder Manipulation "Baiting"

[afterthekingdom]

haha, yea that poor deceived guy is named aj n... he actually works for john from a different city and leads a church group of his own. trust me he is very much still enjoying his freedom and freely preaches/participates what he's learned from john! yippie!

[audiotrax2000]

I'm posting this simply because I can't stand deceivers and liars taking advantage of others- especially impressionable young people. Let's out him :)

[audiotrax2000]

Bait? More like chicken. As a gay man, my overall impression in all the videos I've seen of him is that he's all about the sensuous. He's turned something spiritual into a come on with all his mannerisms and catch phrases. He's hot (I'll admit) and he flaunts it in the most obvious way to these guys, and then pretends it's not what it is. Let's be real. How many of these impressional young men is he taking advantage of off hours? People, it's the oldest story in the book. Think. I'm post

[Kriptych121636]

What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice. Philippians 1:18

Brothers, we know that God's word defends itself. We know that God Himself will deal with any false prophets. Now I haven't heard enough of Crowder's teachings to know for sure if he is or isn't. But I like Paul's angle.

[MattLem922]

Why spend all your time 'exposing' 'false teachers'? Why not try promoting God's grace for a change?

[HappyHeartsClubb]

 2 Timothy 4:1-5

[zionsdaughter2141]

It's AJ!! My brother AJ!! Yay!!! Bless your eyes and heart to be opened, dude who made this slammy video! I actually KNOW AJ, and he is a strong man of God, not deceived, but joyful and discerning. May the perfect love of the One who made you knock your socks off and set you free to fly sir! Smiles and laughter to you and yours!

[vinnieActs2030]

@Dackelmen So do I,  Peace and Love! Shaka boom, bam bam, what a scam scam!

[Weallfart]

@vinnieActs2030 I wish you would contact AJ in this video and ask him yourself wether or not John is using him.. Aj is a dear friend of mine and you are WAY off base dude..

[Death2theNWO777]

REPENT!!!

[denoinwa]

@Death2theNWO777 I agree. We should all acknowledge the folly of dead religion and embrace the Holy Spirit. 

[FORMETOKNOWONLY]

True believers should be fasting and praying against this evil.

[reessm01]

@Vinnieacts2030

Again a far long stretch. Take the plank out of your own eye man. You want any of us to believe that you have never summarized and added insight on anything anyone else has said? Give me a break.

Less heresy hunting and more enjoying the Lord.

[pooru1231]

You know whats pretty stupid about everyone that is rejecting what John Crowder says,

You dont even know christianity is not supported in the word. and you CANT even prove christianty is right because it there is no evidence that that what the bible is about, is christians and christianity, hows that for a shocker!! haha please i dare u to check ur bible , to just discover there no basis for christianity. hehe and i love jesus that esp why im hitting christianity!

[emekonen]

People dont realize that "justification by faith alone" is man made, as well as "Bible as sole authority". Both created by Martin Luther. So I am confused when people like crowder refer to man made doctrines as being bad, and that religion is bad. This is what happens when an uneducated former junkie starts his own church, and does so on his own authority.

[riria33]

This guy is poisonous!

[denoinwa]

@riria33 This guy is VERY poisonous.... to dead religion. HALLELUJAH!!!!!

[HappyHeartsClubb]

@denoinwa What a disaster. I see you have been hard at work defending the Crowder Cult. Yes a cult, because according to you those who are not in on this are guilty of being a part of ''dead'' religion. Pure gnostic garbage. You honestly think what this man does glorifies God? Smoking the cross? Doing Bible lines? Being ''drunk'' in the Spirit? Making a mockey of the things of God before the brethren? Do me a favor and do not waste any more of my time with this nonsense

[denoinwa]

@HappyHeartsClubb As I said before, you do not understand the difference between "religion" and living in the authentic life of God, which means you know very little of the life of God. Yeah, you read the BIble, I will grant you that one. You are the one this message is meant for, and you see nothing of God in it. I see God ALL OVER IT. God is being glorified here, whether you like it or not, and God's Kingdom will advance, Crowder or no Crowder.

[denoinwa]

@HappyHeartsClubb The pharasee cult will have many, many members in hell. The provocations were meant to call you out and expose your religiousity. It worked.

[HappyHeartsClubb]

@denoinwa You are a fool to let yourself be deceived, both in what Crowder is doing and what you are falsely convicted of what everyone else is doing

[denoinwa]

@HappyHeartsClubb You have NO IDEA what Crowder is doing. You jump on the band wagon like a blind lemming sucker because you dont know his heart, his life, and what he is about. This stuff is calculated to provoke people just like you. Crowder is ALL about exposing religion, and you give every possible sign that you are his intended target. The point in all this is heart intent verses outward appearance. You need to toke this some more until you get it.

[chelleybell4]

@denoinwa John posted a vid of me protesting his meeting and accused me of being religious and not understanding grace. He tells his followers to love the religious. So I posted an inoffensive question; if i believe I am saved by grace, thru faith in Jesus and NOT works, how can i b called 'religious' pls explain ur allegation (after all, if i'm not understanding grace, i'm going to hell). John responded by ignoring me, deleting my question and blocking me. He continues to misrepresent me.

[denoinwa]

@chelleybell4 He wasnt saying you werent saved, because he doesnt do that. He is referring to a spirit of the law which is a performance orientation emphasizing works and not belief. The Galations were saved, but Paul said, "who has bewitched you?" So, I dont know what you were protesting or why, so I cannot comment on that. I will just say that many of the protestations coming from well intended people most definitley are pharasaical.

[chelleybell4]

@denoinwa but I reject works as a means to salvation, whether to earn salvation or maintain salvation. God will get ALL the glory for my salvation, it won't be 50/50, or 75/100.

[denoinwa]

@chelleybell4 A few manifestations of a religious spirit.: One is a general performance and condemnation orientation that they will rarely cop to, another is a general disposition to disdain the supernatural works of God, another is for valuing sorrow and seriousness at all times over joy and fun (insisting that God is always the former), another is to always focus on appearances rather than motive, and another is a dispostion for control over freedom.

[denoinwa]

@chelleybell4 Still another manifestation of religion is believing that fundamental, spiritual change comes from external influence such as sin management and law orientation rather than the transforming grace of God. It is always overbalanced in its focus on behavior rather than faith as the means of change. Religion orientation will always value doctrine over faith. It will always emphasis the DOING and rarely the BEING. It is an insidious spirit that always vales its motive in scripture.

[erockafella35]

i love how hardcore christians say this guys brainwashes youth and believes in ridiculous things when not only do normal christians brainwash kids ( and molest them) but also believe in a man who lives in the sky and created the world and everything in it in 6 days. yeah the guy smoking fake jesus is crazy, but you're completely normal

[vinnieActs2030]

@erockafella35 Right..... :-)

[cdzh]

One more thing, you admit that you are using a © vid without authorization (so you can ruin it with your obsessive ranting) yet accuse Crowder of using this poor young man's testimonial to promote himself. Don't you see the hypocrisy there? Crowder is no buffoon, and you'd know that if you'd read his books, which prove he's a student of church history, and only seeks real intimacy with God. The religious fear intimacy with God but love the rules, despite being unable to live by them.

[vinnieActs2030]

Ok Chris, I am a Pharisee, and yes I have a religious spirit and as a Pharisee, yes! I want to charge Crowder with a religious crime and yes I am a hypocrite and a buffoon that fears intimacy with God and yes I love the rules, despite being able to live by them.  Thank God you and Crowder are not like me.

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. Luk 18:11

[cdzh]

I'm sure that you are a very fine person, and a committed believer. I doubt you have a religious spirit", as I don't know your mind and heart. I'm just saying you should not disqualify yourself because you dislike Crowder's way. Who are you/who am I to say what God will and won't do? David danced with all his might, , and before the Lord, and Michal despised him for it, and confronted him, and David said: I will be even more undignified than this. Michal cut short her spiritual future.

[vinnieActs2030]

If this is as far as we can get in understanding one another for now, I'll take it..... :-)

Blessings.... ;-) Till we chat again, The wisdom that is from above is much greater than the wisdom man exercises!

[cdzh]

I really don't think Crowder does anything but say that religion and works won't free a person. He seems to encourage the young man to relate his new understanding of propitiation at the cross, and that God has done everything necessary, no need to work at one's holiness. I just started listening to the words and ignored the editorial overlays, because that does reveal a religious spirit- envy.

[vinnieActs2030]

envy????

Let's establish one thing right off the bat!

If trying the spirits, studying the scriptures and believing God's Holy word is a religious spirit, then by all means feel free to make your accusations. John Crowder is riding on the shoe strings of A.J's testimony. I am not questioning A.J. experience, but Crowder's attaching to it. Crowder will give you an once of truth in order to sell you a ton of lies! He uses A.J.'s experience to give himself credibility. envy?????? Really?

[cdzh]

Envy was just a guess, and I think a good one based on your response (envy????-perish the thought!) You are obviously passionate in opposing Crowder, (or should I say Crowder!!!!), and zealous to defend the Word. I love God's Word, so I ask you: look at John 9. The Pharisees agree a healing has occurred, but they want to charge the healer with a religious crime. Why? envy. Jesus heals, religion distorts, injures. Religion heals no one. This young man is that blind man in Luke 9:13-34. See it?

[maxtube22]

Pentecostalism is THE new Roman Catholicism, a religion unto itself apart from all others just as Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, etc. None of these groups are of the True Christ or His ONLY and FINISHED revelation, the Holy Bible. Add one more heretic and con man to the endless historic list to start another false gospel and shameless "operation money suck" to leech s__ual 'favors' from gnostic pentecostal college age women and cash from their naive grandmothers.

[RRAA117]

Jas 1:27  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Religion is not the problem if we understand it as scripture does.

John Crowder is one of many new age heretics subverting the scripture and redefining what the TRUE GOSPEL IS.

pray for A.J. that God will deliver him from all like John Crowder,

[NewMysticJesusFreak]

I love John Crowder! Many gays are saved through his ministry! Wonderful :) I myself was set free from pornography by being drunk on the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ has been my addiction ever since! He is my pleasure forvever! Psalm 16:11 Shanananana Heyyyy Glory to the Happy God Yahweh!

[Dano853]

Great witness shared by AJ. Everything he said came from the heart of a new convert. Not hampered by John's "whatevers" or lax demeanor. I did have to watch it a second time to get past Vinnie's superimposed critisism. Too bad you are so busy looking for demons that you missed this beautiful testimony.

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[PreachBoom]

In fact, demons will refuse to say that Jesus came in the flesh. If I'm not mistaken, that's the criteria for judging spirits. By the way, John teaches that Jesus came in the flesh! What's wrong with finding infinite joy and happiness when we experience the presence of the Holy Spirit? The world seeks such joy in drugs, but the "high" is short lived followed by horrible destruction. John is just pointing to what they are really seeking, "THE JOY OF THE LORD"!!!

[GuitarWhisperer]

Jehova's witnesses say Jesus came in the flesh. I don't think you understand that verse, because according to how you just applied it, Jehovas witnesses are proclaiming the truth. John is definitely manipulating and putting words into this guys mouth, and coopting the testimony of AJ, which was more powerful before Crowder started manipulating it!

[PreachBoom]

The test has two sides. First it must acknowledge who Jesus was before He came in the flesh. This the Jehovah Witnesses do not acknowledge correctly according to Scripture. Second it says that when He came it was not an illusion or that He appeared to be human. He became a man! He did this to disarm sin in man. Again the Jehovah Witnesses do not fully align with this either. Demons do not acknowledge this because they don't want you to know that Jesus has disarmed sin.

[PreachBoom]

I'm not saying that John Crowder is not without flaws, but from what I have seen his message is centered on the completed work of the cross and what that means for us today. We may disagree on minor points, but that is the core message of the Gospels.

[PreachBoom]

Funny, you claim that John is using this guy as bait and you didn't even know the whole story. He volunteered for the interview and no doubt talked to John beforehand about his testimony. Whereas he may not have said everything that John, so-called, "added in" during the interview, but perhaps you should have been there prior to the interview to hear the whole story? I don't know why you are so zealous to attack Crowder, but being different does not always equal demonic. (continued)

[radicallyaltered]

Actually, I am the guy in the video, and John wasn't using me... I volunteered. but nobody has to explain anything to you. why? Because you are actually not the judges, even though you think you are. And you are all sadly mistaken. But you can explain your need to judge to God. Good luck with that! : )

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

[vinnieActs2030]

Hello A.J. good to hear from you! Deception is a funny thing, your not aware of it's effects, I assure you you have and are being used, you can be set free by accepting the true Jesus Christ, not the false one Crowder pushes.

I pray that that spirit that Crowder entertains is stumped and confounded in the name of Jesus Christ and it's grip on you is loosed by the power of the Holy Ghost! Peace & Love...:)

[GuitarWhisperer]

Rewatch the video, man, it's obvious. I've been used and manipulated by charismatic people, (charismatic not in the religious sense), for many years before I was able to start discerning my own thoughts from the ones they were wanting me to think. The best manipulators are able to make you do whatever they want, while making you think it's your own idea. Their love turns to hate and anger, as soon as they realize you're slipping away. You'll see.

[GuitarWhisperer]

Rewatch yourself, as if it were someone else. I didn't hear you say ANYTHING that Crowder says you said.

[whackedupontheglory]

shababab bungie in the Glory shababababababab

[vinnieActs2030]

I'm sure this comment will clear things up! Your clear description of of the scriptures and crystal clear reasoning is outstanding here, it reminds me much of how I used to be when I was under the influence drugs, when I was high I really thought I was clearly understood when I spoke, I didn't realize I was just mumbling and not making any sense, I thank God through our Lord Jesus Christ that He has now given me a sober and sound mind!

[SHFontenot82]

What is with this typing in tongues that guys do ? I had no clue that the Holy Ghost could be translated through type....

Shamalamadingdong and a ringadingdig to you.

[FloodGateRevival]

its not real tongues...its words when u dont have the english or the tongues to describe what u r feeli g

[Skaz32225]

Maybe John Crowder needs to go to Mecca, Saudi Arabia during the Hajj and spread the HG virus or drunken glory among the muslims. Then we will see a lot of converts don't we....?!?!

[antioch7]

I had to replay this numerous times to make sure I heard this blasphemy correctly.

So now Crowder has reduced the Holy Ghost to initials."H.G".? With a "virus" following His name?John must have a much different spirit teaching him than the one found in scripture..

No virus from The Holy Spirit we know,rather,healing waters,and conviction.

I wonder if he refers to our Lord and Savior as "J.C."Whats next;The jc infection? (better not give him any ideas)

Simply disgusting...

[radicallyaltered]

actually, that's the J.C. 'injection'... just wanted to make sure you didn't get it mixed up...

[YouThoughtYouKnew]

Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Crowder said we who love the Truth are "religious" and "the abomination of desolation". The Holy Place that the "abomination of desolation" spoken of in Matt. 24 is being set up is in the hearts of men--the Temple of the Holy Spirit! The Holy Place is the believer--The Temple of the Holy Ghost! 1 Cor. 3:17 -- NOT a building! You are witnessing the abomination of desolation set up in Crowder!

[Utopiang]

Vinnie, thank you for another very important message from the Lord. It is heartbreaking to see the exploitation of new Christians and Glenn and I will be praying fervently for them. May the Father, Son and Holy Spirit rescue these lambs from the clutches of seducers like Crowder who appear to have gone astray from the womb (Psalm 58:3).

We will also continue to pray for you and your precious family. God bless you with grace upon grace (John 1:16), my dear brother. Your sister, Angela

[vinnieActs2030]

Although all comments are welcome, I ask that you offer prayer, prayer is the key, Please pray for our youth, our children, prayer, fasting and intercession all are weapons in our warfare against principality's and powers in high places, in the spiritual realm. We need to continue to speak the word of truth, but we also need to humble ourselves before our God, it is He that will cause this foul spirit to leap into the swine and set our children free! God Bless all of you and thank you!

[dimel6O]

Lord help us.

[carpentersdaughter2]

You know Vinnie, these wolves have to use some truth to lure people in, otherwise, they wouldn't have any followers. I think there is a possible chance that AJ just might see the lies of Crowder and leave his teachings. We can only pray that he will.

Another good video Vinnie, exposing the lies of this man.

[vinnieActs2030]

You know Linda, I think you may be right about A.J, prayer, intercession, are the key in dealing with the foul spirit Crowder imparts. Please keep him in your prayers. Thank You!

[LivingForHisGlory]

Thank you Vinnie for another great job you did on revealing his manipulative tactics on how he draws people into his web of confusion & blasphemy! It's SO VERY important to test things people say, who claim to speak for God, against God's Word! (Acts 17:11) (1 Thess. 5:21)

I found myself not only grieving for this young man, but also for the children we hear playing in the background! They, I am sure, are already being taught to be filled with the 'drunken glory.' Everyone, please pray!

[vinnieActs2030]

It is the Holy Spirit of God that puts that grieving in your heart and the concern for our children, Please continue to pray for our youth and pray against that foul spirit that Crowder imparts. Prayer is a strong weapon against this movement. Thank You!

[aflame4God]

HERETIC CROWDER. Just looking at him and listening to him makes me ill.Keep up the good work.

[THE1BOMBADIL]

we all thank you for your devotion

[boomya555]

Good keep getting the word out about people like this.

[pastorgeorgec]

Great Job Vinnie. This Crowder guy is a knucklehead. So so dangerous.

[vinnieActs2030]

By the way PG, thank you once again for pointing out to me what had to be changed. God Bless you!

[pastorgeorgec]

Hey brother NP we are on the same team and pulling on the same side of the rope.

Bless you for all you do. Your videos are always wonderful!