The same is true for your second (?) quote - about the inumerable stars. If you looked up at the stars even now, on a clear day, many people would call them innumerable just at a glance because there are so many of them. If the bible gave more than poetic language based on immediate reactions, like for example, giving numbers like 10^22 stars, THAT would be impressive. Also, the bible compares the descendants to the number of stars, but the number of stars VASTLY outnumber humans.
I really don't know why people always open with the whole 'the bible told you the earth is a sphere thing' when the passages CLEARLY say it is a circle (as in a 2-D object, still flat). And even in 2D, the bible didn't get the shape right, in 2D the earth would be an oval rather than a circle.
Also, all of the interpretations of these quotes fall under the bias of foreknowledge. Just looking at a very specific interpretation. If the bible was alid, you could accurately and frequently predict.
You have to mute the music and squint to see what you are trying to say. Why hide the text behind the pictures. Your words should speak alone, without all the confusing music and graphics.Do it over!
You are beyond saving I'm afraid. No logic can penetrate your level of faith. Please, refrain from attempting to use or reference science as you do not understand it.
...entity is so illiterate on its own creation, no? Or, maybe the book was written by numous scientifically illiterate people.
In addtion, you taunt scientific advances while forgetting that it was the faith which held back the advancnes in the first place. What did pious men do to so many scientific studies back in the days? Galileo serves as a good example here.
I have seen roughly half of your educational video, and that is enough. You have clear mistakes, willful denial to support faith.
...we have many High-Cultures with precise maps and calenders. The fact that bible lacks accurate calender should hint towards their lack of knowledge. Jewish herders looking at the desert-night sky, lacked understanding. Period.
Fourth pointer; -False.
¤Proving "scientifically" is something which cannot be done with the bible, because faith denies facts, Science excludes faith.
Fifth pointer; -False.
¤Genesis accounts speak of pillars, and... "hangs" on the sky??? Absurd that omnipotent...
¤The bible speaks about circle and dome, general copy of Sumerian world-view. Also, antique scholars already knew that the Terra goes around Sol.
Second pointer; -False.
¤The bible has been edited throughout the times it has been written, and most likely when it was oral tradition among Jews. We do not actually know the writers, nor the number of them. But dead-sea scrolls do put out a decent time frame.
The paradigm of a spherical earth was developed in ancient Greek astronomy, beginning with Pythagoras 6th century BC, although most Pre-Socratics retained the flat earth model. Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, & knowledge of the spherical earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.
The paradigm of a spherical earth was developed in ancient Greek astronomy, beginning with Pythagoras 6th century BC, although most Pre-Socratics retained the flat earth model. Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, and knowledge of the spherical earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.
Eratosthenes worked out the circumference of the earth about 276 BC. The sailing off the edge of the world idea was circulated through a popular novel. If you are going to put these videos out (with best intentions) I suggest you get your facts right first as not to make people think you are just lying. God bless.
Atoms: Hebrews 11:3 is actually refering to the word of god. And to say that !invisibles" refer to atoms is streching credibility to its limits as it never mentions "tiny".
OK I give up, there is so much crap in this video I can't be bothered to refute any more.
There is no science in the bible, and the theist's desperate attempts to find ANY hint of it just shows how worried they are by the complete failure of religion to find a place in the modern, educated world.
Spherical earth: Strange then that christians suppressed, executed and imprisoned people who said that the erth was round, went round the sun etc.
Stars: Have you ever looked at the sky in a place where there is no light pollution? There are obviously so many stars, that they are uncountable, even without a telescope to show more.
Gravity: To say that one verse from Job proves that gravity and motions of the planets were predicted is just nonsense.
really good video! thanks a bunch:D but one thing is that its sometimes hard to see the text:/ but otherwise very good and covers alot of the stuff i was searchin for:D
The only real question we should each ask ourselves whenever we hear something another idea than what we believe is...
What if...?
Is anyone alive today so positive they do not need to examine ANY new info put before them? Are YOU?
The secret is to never stop being open to NEW information. The truth often comes to us through a child or the way we would least expect. So try to keep asking yourselves, What if...?
Well, I'm not sure what your point here is, but you do have a good one with asking the question "What if"
I,myself, ask the question "What if creation IS true?" Okay, then if it is true, and I worship God, then I will go to Heaven and live for eternity without sin and with a better life than anyone could ever imagine!
But, on the opposing side... "What if evolution is true?" Okay, then when I die, I return to dirt and become comp for the grass and other stuff to grow...
@1GoodAngel You can relax my friend. First, quiet your mind and be still for 10 minutes and look inside. You'll find ALL the answers you seek are LITERALLY sitting within you just waiting for you to be silent long enough to come forth to your consciousness or awareness. Secondly, there truly is no right or wrong. Search inside and you'll realize this Truth which many others already know. The universe is about experiencing and enjoying LIFE.
@1GoodAngel You can relax my friend. First, quiet your mind and be still for 10 minutes and look inside. You'll find ALL the answers you seek are LITERALLY sitting within you just waiting for you to be silent long enough to come forth to your consciousness or awareness. Secondly, there truly is no right or wrong. Search inside and you'll realize this Truth which many others already know. The universe is about experiencing and enjoying LIFE.
And with those 2 thoughts, I have determined that I have a LOT more to lose if I am wrong about the first one verses being wrong about the second one, so with that said the first "what if" is the better alternative for me to live by for now (until I either find out differently when I go to heaven or I die and never know the difference)
1) They did not think the earth was flat because they could see a ship coming sails (the top part) first, they thought it was egg shaped, just look at atlas again
2) A circle can still be flat, never seen Terry Pratchett
3) The stars are not innumberable, it would just take an insanely long time to count them
4) Being in nothing, hold on, what about the layer of water above the earth (Gen 1:6)
5) Of the rest of them, they are VERY unclear are small in numer and hello contradictions:
Hi LogicSavior, Please re-read your history books, cuz its a known fact that they thought the earth was flat (I didn't just "make that up"). I got all the "facts" in this video off the i-net or out of history books, and of course the bible.
AS for the stars, if it takes an insanely long time to count them (which has NEVER been done,) then that would mean they are "innumerable" (unless someone actually does it)
As 4 the layer of water. maybe the heavens (firmament,) are surrounded by water...
In response to JesusLives: Of course they knew that when they sacrificed the lambs (or people, as you said,) they knew that it would die, but they didn't specifically know that it was because they would "bleed to death"... we only know now that "blood is the source of life"
of course! We know this now, it seems plainly obvious... But did they really know that thousands of years ago? They just knew that if you killed someone or something, it would die...
You could just as well say that Bible mentions Jerusalem and there is a town called Jerusalem therefor bible is inerrant and world is created in six days.
Bible cannot in anyway stand critical viewing but is full of contradictions and old myths.
Okay, then once again, explain to me how all of those "scientific facts" that we have recently found out to be "facts" of this world, were mentioned in the bible thousands of years before they knew anything about science?!... (if it was all just "made up")
Besides the fact that I am going to mention in #2 is there are 40 diff writers of the bible, over a span of a few thousand years, how would they all know all of that stuff. they were just average citizens!...
Facts in the bible? Like Earth being flat, sun going around the Earth and stars being so small they could fall on the Earth?
What does the amount of writers have to do with anything or who they were? (which we really don't know). And they really didn't know "all this stuff" (see above)
Actually we do know who the writers of most all the books are. And what it has to do with it, is that there were over 40 in a span of more than 1000 years, meaning they did not live at the same times, and they wouldn't have known what each other had written, and especially the subjects that they wrote about... (nobody else in that time knew about,) so that tell you that there had to be someone more powerful and someone who knows EVERYTHING behind the words that those writers wrote...
yes. "no big deal" to us now, but think back thousands of years ago.... They didn't have a clue!! They hadn't proved any of that (as mentioned in the video)
You are right, they didn't have a clue. That's why they did think the earth was flat and the firnament was a hemi sphere above the disc. No disc? Oh, yes... Matthew 4;8.
The same is true for your second (?) quote - about the inumerable stars. If you looked up at the stars even now, on a clear day, many people would call them innumerable just at a glance because there are so many of them. If the bible gave more than poetic language based on immediate reactions, like for example, giving numbers like 10^22 stars, THAT would be impressive. Also, the bible compares the descendants to the number of stars, but the number of stars VASTLY outnumber humans.
mrwho995 2 months ago
I really don't know why people always open with the whole 'the bible told you the earth is a sphere thing' when the passages CLEARLY say it is a circle (as in a 2-D object, still flat). And even in 2D, the bible didn't get the shape right, in 2D the earth would be an oval rather than a circle.
Also, all of the interpretations of these quotes fall under the bias of foreknowledge. Just looking at a very specific interpretation. If the bible was alid, you could accurately and frequently predict.
mrwho995 2 months ago
You have to mute the music and squint to see what you are trying to say. Why hide the text behind the pictures. Your words should speak alone, without all the confusing music and graphics.Do it over!
jimbamboozled 5 months ago
Nice video, but it's hard to read at times.
Thisisnotmyrealname8 8 months ago
You are beyond saving I'm afraid. No logic can penetrate your level of faith. Please, refrain from attempting to use or reference science as you do not understand it.
evilgenius2003 1 year ago
"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." -Albert Einstein
alleyesonme888 1 year ago
Great Vidoe - Bible Supremacy!!
Tomek0102 1 year ago
...entity is so illiterate on its own creation, no? Or, maybe the book was written by numous scientifically illiterate people.
In addtion, you taunt scientific advances while forgetting that it was the faith which held back the advancnes in the first place. What did pious men do to so many scientific studies back in the days? Galileo serves as a good example here.
I have seen roughly half of your educational video, and that is enough. You have clear mistakes, willful denial to support faith.
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
...we have many High-Cultures with precise maps and calenders. The fact that bible lacks accurate calender should hint towards their lack of knowledge. Jewish herders looking at the desert-night sky, lacked understanding. Period.
Fourth pointer; -False.
¤Proving "scientifically" is something which cannot be done with the bible, because faith denies facts, Science excludes faith.
Fifth pointer; -False.
¤Genesis accounts speak of pillars, and... "hangs" on the sky??? Absurd that omnipotent...
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
First pointer; -False.
¤The bible speaks about circle and dome, general copy of Sumerian world-view. Also, antique scholars already knew that the Terra goes around Sol.
Second pointer; -False.
¤The bible has been edited throughout the times it has been written, and most likely when it was oral tradition among Jews. We do not actually know the writers, nor the number of them. But dead-sea scrolls do put out a decent time frame.
Third pointer; -False.
-Astronomy is a poor evidence, as...
ArmaFennica 1 year ago
The paradigm of a spherical earth was developed in ancient Greek astronomy, beginning with Pythagoras 6th century BC, although most Pre-Socratics retained the flat earth model. Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, & knowledge of the spherical earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.
missdimples1982 1 year ago
The paradigm of a spherical earth was developed in ancient Greek astronomy, beginning with Pythagoras 6th century BC, although most Pre-Socratics retained the flat earth model. Aristotle accepted the spherical shape of the earth on empirical grounds around 330 BC, and knowledge of the spherical earth gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world from then on.
missdimples1982 1 year ago
we have proof the eath is billions of years old.... disprove that
00fatmat00 1 year ago
Modern science proves the bible wrong.
lizazoon 1 year ago
It said circle. not ball shaped. I looked up at the sky once and said that i could never count all the stars. and there is a finite amount of start.
mrbillsykes 1 year ago
Great video!
Thank you chunktuff for sending this to me.
TheForthcoming1 1 year ago
Eratosthenes worked out the circumference of the earth about 276 BC. The sailing off the edge of the world idea was circulated through a popular novel. If you are going to put these videos out (with best intentions) I suggest you get your facts right first as not to make people think you are just lying. God bless.
ronaldezz 2 years ago
Atoms: Hebrews 11:3 is actually refering to the word of god. And to say that !invisibles" refer to atoms is streching credibility to its limits as it never mentions "tiny".
OK I give up, there is so much crap in this video I can't be bothered to refute any more.
There is no science in the bible, and the theist's desperate attempts to find ANY hint of it just shows how worried they are by the complete failure of religion to find a place in the modern, educated world.
wordavee 2 years ago
of course it's not scientific evidence, its logical evidence using simple science
TrannyAcid 2 years ago
Spherical earth: Strange then that christians suppressed, executed and imprisoned people who said that the erth was round, went round the sun etc.
Stars: Have you ever looked at the sky in a place where there is no light pollution? There are obviously so many stars, that they are uncountable, even without a telescope to show more.
Gravity: To say that one verse from Job proves that gravity and motions of the planets were predicted is just nonsense.
wordavee 2 years ago
really good video! thanks a bunch:D but one thing is that its sometimes hard to see the text:/ but otherwise very good and covers alot of the stuff i was searchin for:D
chunktuff 2 years ago
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Too bad the Bible said the earth was flat.
And that the sun revolved around the earth.
And that humans are made of dirt.
And that snakes, donkeys, and bushes talk.
And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.
Other than a few minor details like that,
it's a really scientific book!
Hahahaha!!!!!
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
The only real question we should each ask ourselves whenever we hear something another idea than what we believe is...
What if...?
Is anyone alive today so positive they do not need to examine ANY new info put before them? Are YOU?
The secret is to never stop being open to NEW information. The truth often comes to us through a child or the way we would least expect. So try to keep asking yourselves, What if...?
washboardboy 3 years ago
Well, I'm not sure what your point here is, but you do have a good one with asking the question "What if"
I,myself, ask the question "What if creation IS true?" Okay, then if it is true, and I worship God, then I will go to Heaven and live for eternity without sin and with a better life than anyone could ever imagine!
But, on the opposing side... "What if evolution is true?" Okay, then when I die, I return to dirt and become comp for the grass and other stuff to grow...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
@1GoodAngel You can relax my friend. First, quiet your mind and be still for 10 minutes and look inside. You'll find ALL the answers you seek are LITERALLY sitting within you just waiting for you to be silent long enough to come forth to your consciousness or awareness. Secondly, there truly is no right or wrong. Search inside and you'll realize this Truth which many others already know. The universe is about experiencing and enjoying LIFE.
washboardboy 1 year ago
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@1GoodAngel You can relax my friend. First, quiet your mind and be still for 10 minutes and look inside. You'll find ALL the answers you seek are LITERALLY sitting within you just waiting for you to be silent long enough to come forth to your consciousness or awareness. Secondly, there truly is no right or wrong. Search inside and you'll realize this Truth which many others already know. The universe is about experiencing and enjoying LIFE.
washboardboy 1 year ago
And with those 2 thoughts, I have determined that I have a LOT more to lose if I am wrong about the first one verses being wrong about the second one, so with that said the first "what if" is the better alternative for me to live by for now (until I either find out differently when I go to heaven or I die and never know the difference)
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
I know this comment was made a year ago, but still deserves a big fat.. AMENNNN!
Soul4JC 2 years ago
I can't read the text over the photos!
jesuslives57 3 years ago 2
same here
jfuller1496 2 years ago
Most of these "modern sciences proves the bible" thing are too cryptic, miss the mark completely or it's just a sheer coincidence.
Ibhenriksen 3 years ago
That's one heck of a lot of "coincidences"!
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
@1GoodAngel
Not really when you consider how the amount of interpretations for every passage in the bible.
mrwho995 2 months ago
Actually:
1) They did not think the earth was flat because they could see a ship coming sails (the top part) first, they thought it was egg shaped, just look at atlas again
2) A circle can still be flat, never seen Terry Pratchett
3) The stars are not innumberable, it would just take an insanely long time to count them
4) Being in nothing, hold on, what about the layer of water above the earth (Gen 1:6)
5) Of the rest of them, they are VERY unclear are small in numer and hello contradictions:
LogicSavior 3 years ago
Hi LogicSavior, Please re-read your history books, cuz its a known fact that they thought the earth was flat (I didn't just "make that up"). I got all the "facts" in this video off the i-net or out of history books, and of course the bible.
AS for the stars, if it takes an insanely long time to count them (which has NEVER been done,) then that would mean they are "innumerable" (unless someone actually does it)
As 4 the layer of water. maybe the heavens (firmament,) are surrounded by water...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago 2
'why doesn't the atom fly apart?Modern knowledge says it should.' Thats a very odd statement.Elementary physics shows that not to be true.
jesuslives57 3 years ago
please explain then...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
Maybe you such research just how difficult it is to split an atom.Find out what holds atoms together.You have the whole world at your finger tips.
jesuslives57 3 years ago
I have and what I have found still stays the same... "that the atom "should" fall apart"...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
so, if you know the answer, once again, please explain...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
This could be a long night if i have to do all the research for you so please go to Google and start by typing 'Daves microcosmos'
jesuslives57 3 years ago
In response to JesusLives: Of course they knew that when they sacrificed the lambs (or people, as you said,) they knew that it would die, but they didn't specifically know that it was because they would "bleed to death"... we only know now that "blood is the source of life"
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
Thank you for posting the comment.
jesuslives57 3 years ago
If you havn't noticed, I am "new" to You-tube, I accidentally deleted your comment!... Sorry....
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
No problem,no offense taken.
jesuslives57 3 years ago
If you cut an animals artery you are certain that as the blood drains out so does its life.Theres no mystery.
Interceptor1992 3 years ago
of course! We know this now, it seems plainly obvious... But did they really know that thousands of years ago? They just knew that if you killed someone or something, it would die...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
You could just as well say that Bible mentions Jerusalem and there is a town called Jerusalem therefor bible is inerrant and world is created in six days.
Bible cannot in anyway stand critical viewing but is full of contradictions and old myths.
StandForScience 3 years ago
Okay, then once again, explain to me how all of those "scientific facts" that we have recently found out to be "facts" of this world, were mentioned in the bible thousands of years before they knew anything about science?!... (if it was all just "made up")
Besides the fact that I am going to mention in #2 is there are 40 diff writers of the bible, over a span of a few thousand years, how would they all know all of that stuff. they were just average citizens!...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
Facts in the bible? Like Earth being flat, sun going around the Earth and stars being so small they could fall on the Earth?
What does the amount of writers have to do with anything or who they were? (which we really don't know). And they really didn't know "all this stuff" (see above)
StandForScience 3 years ago
Actually we do know who the writers of most all the books are. And what it has to do with it, is that there were over 40 in a span of more than 1000 years, meaning they did not live at the same times, and they wouldn't have known what each other had written, and especially the subjects that they wrote about... (nobody else in that time knew about,) so that tell you that there had to be someone more powerful and someone who knows EVERYTHING behind the words that those writers wrote...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
BTW, there are many, many, many other reasons why the bible is proved to be true, these are just the scientific ones...
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
1) The earth is a circle according to the bible.
2) Stars are numerable.
3) Moon hangs on nothing,too - so no big deal.
4) Wow, ancient Jews believed in the supernatural. Big surprise.
5) Now Jesus is holding the atom together? Citation needed.
6) And stars are holes in the heavens.
7) Cut throat, anyone? Big deal for cattle sacrificing primitives to figure out that blood = life.
8) Firnament = sphere over a disc. Nice bronze age astronomy.
This is too easy, as always.
Johannes9126 3 years ago
yes. "no big deal" to us now, but think back thousands of years ago.... They didn't have a clue!! They hadn't proved any of that (as mentioned in the video)
1GoodAngel 3 years ago
You are right, they didn't have a clue. That's why they did think the earth was flat and the firnament was a hemi sphere above the disc. No disc? Oh, yes... Matthew 4;8.
Johannes9126 3 years ago