Paint Correction with a Rotary Buffer Part 2 of 2

[rg000291215]

awesome, what brand rotary buffer are you using?

[wahlan]

@rg000291215 just a cheap one, the brand is Ozito

[SilverDGS]

If you havnt already my advice, Look up Final Inspection Online or DamianFI on here or Google them... Good products and Forum(i live in the US but wanna use CAP products)! Damian has some great vids tho there! Honestly tho, well done!!

[Bones2k7]

wicked video, just looking for techniques before i finally get the last few bits together to give my golf VR6 a full detail. even though white isnt the best colour to try and photo for before and after pictures you can tell youve done a good job because when you ran your hand over the paint that was really bad! and i thought mine was bad!LOL

good work though, keep it up!

[robbiet182]

Hey cool vid, i just got a similar rotary polisher i was just wondering if anyone knows if i apply the wax on with an applicator pad could and i buff it off with wool buffer pad on a machine rotary buffer is this a bad thing? Can it be done this way? I don't see anyone taking the wax off with machine?

[robbiet182]

Hey cool vid, i just got a similar rotary polisher i was just wondering if anyone knows if i apply the wax on with an applicator pad could and i buff it off with wool buffer pad on a machine rotary buffer is this a bad thing? Can it be done this way? I don't see anyone taking the wax off with machine?

[wahlan]

@robbiet182 @robbiet182 you could apply the wax with a machine using a foam pad. To my understanding, wool pads are made for low heat and high cut applications. You will probably find it difficult to actually 'buff off' the wax. Buffing off is usually done with your favourite towel of choice with constant flipping to fresh and clean sections of the towel. Also, if you wax with a pad, they are fairly difficult to wash.

[Munky332]

sweet set of vids man, thanks! i have a Porter-cable DA and am thinkin about gettin a rotary since im goin to be paintin my car myself soon (and not the cheapo brush or rattle can way, with an actual HVLP...) and the DA just doesnt take enough material off.

[tuffnugly454]

Good job man! even on white looks outstanding in the light!

[JonProce]

Hey man, good on you for jumping right into using a rotary, it's a difficult machine to master. Your technique looks good, just watch those edges. Using a higher quality, thinner pad may help you with control and product absorption. Also, try to use a different microfiber for removing wax than your do for removing polish :). Great job!

[wahlan]

@JonProce Thanks for that :) yeahh i am looking to invest in some new pads the next time i do some detailing, i accidentally left some in a bag while they were still wet and they got rotten :(. Have since bought a supply of microfibre towels too so will definitely be able to have separate buffing towels.

[kik457]

good vid, thanks, UK

[sorihewi]

great job bro! I just find from my personal opinion that u put a little too much compound on the pad... but good interesting video!

[donjuandj]

don't think that was compound.

it was probably a swirl remover cuz it was his second time buffing, and that stuff isnt very abrasive so its OK

[youreadork]

So, I have a question: I just purchased a '98 Civic and the paint has lost it's clear coat. If you run your hand against the paint it's a bit rough. The paint hasn't faded but in the right angle you can see it's lost its glare. At this point, would waxing be a bad idea or should I have it repainted?

[wahlan]

when you say it has lost it's clearcoat, can you actually see parts there clearcoast is flaking/peeling off?

[youreadork]

No, it's not smooth and it's lost it's glossiness if that makes sense. Also I can see some light dark (black) patches surfacing from the paint. But the paint is definitely not flaking. Is that just oxidation?

[wahlan]

Yeah i'd say that's just oxidation, that is still recoverable. You can use a medium-cut compound to bring back the colour and then polishing it back up to bring back gloss. Waxing might give you temporary improvements as it's just coating the paint, but compounding it will leave you with a fresh layer of paint.

[youreadork]

Stupid question but when you say "compounding it" do you mean what you demonstrated in your video using those products?

[wahlan]

Yup compounding basically means you're using an abrasive product/compound that will cut through paint.

[ibleed1]

less of the foul language, OK.

[8giang8]

good work dude, should try out Mothers 'plastic polish' and their other products like aluminium polish to shine up ur mags.

I know its called plastic polish but they call it that because its their main market for the product. But it can be used on other things because its a less abrassive liquid.

I used it on my black r1 and it works, got rid of swirls in the paint. Needs abit of elbow grease.

PS: nice apron lol

[wahlan]

Thanks man i actually do have a bottle of the Mothers Plastic Polish. I find it too waxy for my liking but yeah it is definitely less abrasive and safe to use.

[JimmyJones]

"It smells fucking awesome."

[findmeifyoucan]

Hey got a question here, I'm currently using a DA (because I'm a noob)

How did you learn the techniques of the rotary? (since the rotary can easily burn paint if used wrong)

And do you measure how much paint you have left to polish?

[wahlan]

I mostly go by feel, you feel how the polish breaks down and you adjust your movement and pressure accordingly. The idea is to apply light pressure, and let the pad and products work in.

When the products are still working, there isn't that much heat generated, it easily overheats when you over work the product.

And no i just go with luck on the paint left to polish :P

[findmeifyoucan]

Wow you are brave haha!

Thanks for the quick reply! I guess I'll find out when I get my hands on a rotary.

[jpassa88]

ok dumb question but im a girl so i just mnight barely get away with this lol... i went to watch drifting practise last week and their are heaps of people who have gone with matte black on their cars, when your saying the white is matte has the previous owner can sprayed or was it just rough from weather damage? if its just weather damage would doing this have the same affect as some dickhead who had taken to their car with a spray can?

[wahlan]

Haha that's finnne. Yeahhh matte black seems to be getting around these days hey. My car was just poorly cared for so the paint was oxidizing from weather damage etc.

Usually weather damaged paint looks inconsistent and patchy and faded but actual matte paint will look consistently matte with a deep colour.

Can spraying doesn't last very long and detailing it this way will improve it, but it will go shitty again quite quickly when exposed to the weather if that was what you were wondering.

[BosnianWarLord1]

drifters probably use matte paint because of the deb-re flying around their car when they drift so if they did get the glossy finish they paint will have a lot more scratches.

spray can paint on the car lol damn what was that owner thinking i personally thing that the paint is done for you can just paint the area were the spray paint is on by color matching it with the rest of the car just take it to the professionals

[Focoist911]

My problem is I want to know really what these products have in them. And the culture of it all being a secret is not cool in my mind.

When I was studying a chemistry major at Melbourne University I found it heart wrenching that all the products on my shelf at home were "secrets" and that they didn't have to say anything about the contents but they did for the foods I am eating. And yet everyone knows the epidermis absorbs things fast, sometimes and often hostile things. We need to change that

[Focoist911]

oh yeh btw, nice contribution to community. I really watched every part of it. If you gonna do more I guess as a contructive criticism I could say - remove that noise. But then thats not possible when instructing on the reality of how this job is done. So that would make it destructive criticism I guess?

haha. But you know I loved the advice and you should get those guys with those products to pay you something man, or maybe you are. My problem is I am stuck in Brasil and products all diff

[Focoist911]

How do you know if you burnt the paint?

[wahlan]

Heating up the paint isn't a bad thing, when i referred to burn i meant when you actually cut off the layer of paint in that area exposing some grey spots of primer/undercoat. Sorry for the confusion.

[Focoist911]

Cheers. I dont know if this here is a good example or not but this guy seems to think it is:

watch?v=9mIDs_m8WRA

Lets face it, we are all talking about chemistry and materials science as deep as you want to get here. And the problem is you have product companies who want to offer the magic DO ALLS you know, to sell them - so they are a little dishonest when they need to be.

[qwertygnf]

at 4:54 you can see your reflection on the paint that seems to be the best way to show the difference, good vid, i always wanted to do this but was scared of stuffing it up, cheers

[ShUfFeLeRz]

hahahaha

lol

the wax smells fucking awesome

lol

wat would happen if u put it in ur hair

LMAO

lol

good vid mann

5/5 + Fav + Subbed

[digi051669]

awesome video. thx alot.

[scogie12]

one suggestion is to apply and buff in the direction that the wind will travel on your car, like

[Boodieman72]

NTX Tech Wax 2.0 isn't a wax its a paint sealant.

[showxpony]

lmao it dies smell fucking awesome!

[SiLASftz]

The fast forwarded part of you wiping the car xD

[DullardGuy]

My cazin..u must show that car. Very nice.

[aznflipboipinoy]

"and 2) It smells fucking awesome" haha!

Thanks for making this. It's a lot of work doing a section at a time, but it definitely is worth it. I'll have to try out this buffer technique for my VR-4 one day.

[wahben]

goood work cant wait to see the whole car done and back on the road :)