Jagi's Intro (HNK Yuria Densetsu)

[killerstar1000]

i wish i knew what they were saying

[cmolodiets]

wrong way to use a shotgun!

Shotguns weren't made to be used as clubs but to shoot with!

terrible mistake due to ignorance of the proper use.

[siretrickshot]

are you going to upload in english audio

[Brycepop]

@siretrickshot There is no english audio. These movies/OVAs haven't been dubbed.

[NeoGamemaster]

3:12 I think I speak for all of us, that we all thought the same:

Kenshiro: "Your face is now the ugliest in the world. Now suck my cock."

[thenewmase]

from 0:00 and 1:01 the only thing I inderstand was "Hokuto Shin ken"

[sec0ndevolution]

@thenewmase What about "Kenshiro"? :P

[OtaKing77077]

Wow. The art and animation are so poor compared to the 1986 movie. And everyone is grey. What is it about "nu-anime" that states they're not allowed to actually use colours anymore?

[DjangoEX]

Jagi's face was messed up from the start in this one.

[sec0ndevolution]

Jagi sounds less evil and more retarded in this vers.

[bluetwinkesaregood]

@sec0ndevolution I didn't like what they did to Jagi here either. He's supposed to be a shameless bully with a huge ego. He seems like a dim wit and a whiny. Aside from the improvement in animation, there's no reason to revamp a good anime series when it was fine the way it was.

[SWIFTzTrigger]

@bluetwinkesaregood is it the same anime as the original same episodes and everything but in revamped visuals?

[bluetwinkesaregood]

@SWIFTzTrigger In the manga and the 80s tv show, Jagi doesn't whimper and show any cowardice nor beg for mercy. I don't think so. *shrugs*

[ShinsengumiKeisuke]

The ATATA aren't that great. The original was better.

[dark7element]

I think according to the Jagi Gaiden manga, there is some more context to this. Jagi has already become the leader of a gang of criminals (making his thugs one of the few organizations of villains to predate the apocalypse), so retaining the ability to use Hokuto Shin Ken is a matter of survival for him.

[DjangoEX]

His face was already ugly before >_>

[SuperVegettoSSJ]

Whats the music called at 2.52?

[DjangoEX]

Anyone know where I can find the movie online.

[moonchild2006]

At 2:05, did Jagi say "Bullshit" or "Pussy"? LOL

[Shalom2378]

@moonchild2006

He said "URUSEE!!",it means "SHUT UP!!",or "SHUT THE FUCK UP!!"

[henshinplex]

kenshiro is thinking "i fucked up ur face"

[henshinplex]

souther is thinking "whiny little bitch"

[MDthornton83]

It's probably just me. But I always thought Kenshiro looked a lot like Sylvester Stallone.

[currentgodhandowner]

For an english speaker 0:18-1:02 = "......O_o? Wtf's his problem?"

[sec0ndevolution]

@currentgodhandowner He's pissed that the youngest brother (Kenshiro) has been chosen as successor, and the rest of them will be forced to give up fighting (or face the consequences) and wants to know why Raoh & Toki (the other two) refuse to do anything about it.

[Ginnungugapr]

@Alkatraz0001 There is one its called "The Flower of Carnage: Fist of the North Star Jagi Side-Story" :)

[Alkatraz0001]

Jagi should have his own arc, to tell how he got so fucked up. mentally and physiclally.

[Ginnungugapr]

@Alkatraz0001 There is one called "The Flower of Carnage: Fist of the North Star Jagi Side-Story" :)

[Alkatraz0001]

@Ginnungugapr i mean an anime not a manga, the comic is awesome but nothin beats the big/small screen

[KENSHIROHEIDERN]

original hnk is better!!!

[choptop1218]

Wow I didn't recognize Jagi without his Long Blond hair and the deformity Kenshire left him with after he Kicked his Ass!

[Karmoon7]

Guys, why did they remake this? The art is worse, the voices are really weak, the animation is your average TV show level of quality at best.

I mean, comparing this to the original animated film is like comparing Damien Hirst to the Sistine Chapel.

I'm really confused. Did they get so much joy out of seriously weakening the scene?

[ElectricHawk]

@Karmoon7 I thought I'd be the only one who felt that way. Honestly I'd prefer even the old anime over this ( The TV show that is. ) But... this isn't terrible. I mean, if we had nothing to compare it to but the manga it's likely we'd be saying " OH MY GOD AWESOME! " and things like that.

[ThatSatyr]

uhmuhgud this is intense, I have not seen any episodes of this Fist of the North Star redux :) , could someone plz link me to episode 1?

[xxashyy]

Actually if it wasn't for Jagi Ken wouldn't had gotten the seven scars from Shin. Jagi somewhat set Ken on his quest as successor.

[ThePlagueDoc]

Who is that sitting next to Raoh?

[Kenshiro19XX]

its Toki, his brother.

[nationalist19]

jagi was always the weakest of the 4. i believe he was put into the amine to remind people that anger and rage are not part of martial arts can blind you in a fight .

[notmack]

but he did have a good idea bringing a shotgun to a fist fight, granted it didn't work too well, but i think he gets an A for effort

[rockdiga]

and he got Murkafied for it haha.

[notmack]

Is that what they're calling "horribly disfigured" nowadays?

[ElmondoDeGracias]

@notmack yeah but a f for failing

[notmack]

More likely he received an f for living,but then again most get that grade when fighting ken

[EddyGriff]

@notmack Bringing a shotgun to a fist fight might sound good against a normal person but...against Kenshiro??

[Loader2K1]

Off-topic from all the Jagi talk: Holy shit! I never realized how much Toki looked like Simon Belmont!

[B2Furlow]

this shit is total garbage compared to the oringnal

this artist is all shade and no emotions stiff. HnK deserves better and a better game than hokuto mosou

[ManowarHeigou]

Kid Jagi = good

Adult Jagi= such a stupid shit and annoying that even watching him die pisses me off cus he has to talk

[MACadamiaNut187]

The art style of these look really bad and imo the 80's HnK movie's version of Jagi is the best represntation of him.

[Guyverman01]

Jagi is to Hokuto no Ken as Raditz is to Dragonball.

[Loader2K1]

I thought Raditz was an awesome villain.

[bau007]

ken voice sucks

[crazyforte]

yeah. i see why one would say it sucks. alot of times it sounds like a spanish accent or something mixed with japanese words. and his voice doesnt seem to do as well as akira kamiya (original voice actor for kenshiro in the tv series).

[Manichesexual]

That's the problem, te original voice is so awesome that any other just don't fit to ken.

[sec0ndevolution]

I think Hiroshi Abe sounds better in this flashback, rather than when he tries to make Kenshiro sound gravelly and emotionless.

[BernardBluth]

Personally I think Jagi had mastered the Hokuto ability to mimic other styles in order to give himself the seven stars and this was the only skill he had that Ken didn't have at the time they fought (he didn't "steal" them like people are saying). Raoh used some Nanto moves to enhance his style, Ken to show off and Jagi as a last ditched effort to win. But it didn't matter because Jagi's overall skill sucked. Still it makes me wonder how good he would be if he trained and wasn't a cheapass.

[sec0ndevolution]

Jagi having his own backstory and girlfriend sucks. He was supposed to be a glorified thug and nothing more. Buronson & Hara didn't make him complex for that reason.

[MisterWhat]

And thats why he suffers as a character in comparation. Hes a thug, but a Hakuto No Ken kind of thug, not a normal streeth punk.

The backstory adds more layers, shows some feats of actual skill and strenght and best of all, doesnt make an excuse to the way he is, it just shows the readers the "why".

[WarriorBoy]

3:26 and the sound Jagi makes is incredible.

[erisi236]

Jagi was always one of my favorite guys for some reason. It's kind of a shame he doesn't have more background and story lines, he's one of the Hokuto Brothers but he gets less time devoted to him then pretty much everyone else in the entire series.

[DaJuggernate]

Thats because Jagi was the Jobber of HNK.

[Loader2K1]

There's a HNK spinoff manga out in Japan now starring Jagi and going over his origins.

[Reigns20]

dont lie ere ? wots it calld?

[Loader2K1]

It's called Jagi Gaiden: Flowering of Evil. It's currently being fan translated by the people on Heart of Madness. Go there and download it! From what I've read so far, I'm impressed with it.

[Reigns20]

fanx man

[Reigns20]

do u hav 2 download it 2 watch it doh

[Loader2K1]

It's a fan-translated manga. Go check it out.

[MisterWhat]

I just did that yesterday, and im really pleased with all the Gaiden material so far, its top notch.

Jagi is the most surprising so far, showing more character and displays of power.

[MisterWhat]

Jagi gaiden. Check it out, hes the one with the more flesh out character in the Gaidens, for that reason.

[sec0ndevolution]

Well that's not difficult; Jagi didn't have any kind of backstory/character development in the original.

Jagi was a despicable bully who made a mockery out of Hokuto Shinken, with his cheap tactics and cheating. Buronson & Hara didn't want him to be anything more than that, and I'm pleased to accept that decision.

[MisterWhat]

The Gaiden doesnt change that. Hes still a guy who wants to win at all costs, and doesnt care about the purity of martial arts. All the Gaiden does is showing the reader hes got a 3d character like the others and motivations, even if we dont agree with them.

[currentgodhandowner]

HAHAHAHAH!....after u see 3:26 keep clicking it to hear jagi murmur like a fool.....funny...:P

[Ndstrukt]

No eng subtitles = fail

[dswolf123]

God, i hate you 4Chan douche bags!

[vicepresidentfru1tly]

Does the remake have the "Say my name!" scene?

[dswolf123]

sadly, no...

[ninja3605]

Whoever was the voice actor for kenshiro made his "atatatatatatatatatata" sound like a chiken doing it..

[bancoran]

What I don't understand is why Ryuuken would bother training 4 students if only one of them was going to inherit the title of Fist. Didn't he foresee the problems this would cause amongst the brothers?  Or was he hedging his bets by raising an heir and some spares?

[Ragnarok1986x]

Ryuuken had to keep his options open.

For example, Toki became terminally sick. If Ryuuken had no other students, it would have placed Hokuto Shinken in jeopardy. That is why he had to choose from either Raoh or Kenshiro, and since Raoh was ruthless, and Kenshiro had a shining potential he was chosen.

Jagi was just a patsy who Ryuuken kept around so the brothers would learn how to defeat someone truly evil.

[bancoran]

Damn, that's cold. Practical, but cold. I agree with VendavalEste about Ryuuken being a dick, but I never considered the "keeping a trained buttmonkey" angle regarding Jagi. Makes me think that Ryuuken was the biggest bastard to begin with, since his decisions indirectly led to a lot of the character development of the brothers later on.

[mrshorin]

nah, don't blame ryuuken, it's hokuto shinken's tradition.... it's been like this for 2000 years... why change tradition? even though, ryuuken as a kid was kind of a total dick, back when his name was kasumi ramon.

[bancoran]

that reminds me, i gotta catch up on "souten no ken" episodes.

[Loader2K1]

Ironically, Ryuken was grooming Raoh to be the successor, and it almost happened, too.

[DaJuggernate]

Yeah it was first supposed to be Raoh, then Ryuken saw that Toki had way more potential than Raoh and was ready to name his as the successor but luckily for Kenshiro, Toki got sick and couldn't reach his full potential.

[SilverSword1]

I doubt he planned to kill the ones who did not inherit the title. He was just going to take their knowledge of Hokuto Shinken away, and most likely their memories too. This way they would have still lived worthwhile lives, while keeping the tradition of only one successor.

[Loader2K1]

According to Jagi Gaiden (if you consider it canon), Jagi was actually Ryuken's FIRST adopted son. He later adopted Raoh, Toki, and Kenshiro without the intention of teaching Jagi the art of Hokuto Shinken. He told Jagi to his face that he would always be his son, but never his student. It wasn't until Jagi took on a rival martial artist seeking to challenge Ryuken and barely beat him that Ryuken decided to train him in Hokuto Shinken.

[bancoran]

I like to think that though Ryuken considered all four of the Hokuto brothers his sons, Jagi was closest to his heart, and that's why he didn't want Jagi getting tangled up in the brutal legacy of Hokuto Shinken. Jagi, of course, misinterpreted this concern as an indictment of weakness, so he threw himself into practicing the art all to please Ryuken.

[Loader2K1]

In my opinion, If HNK was a more light-hearted anime/manga series, a character like kid Jagi would have ended up the successor of Hokuto Shinken, kinda like Kid Muscle from Ultimate Muscle.

[sec0ndevolution]

In one of the supplementary booklets, it's said that Ryuuken kept Jagi so the successor would have someone evil to overcome. This makes sense, since Ryuuken implies that Kenshiro was foolish not to kill Jagi in their sparring fight.

[senpuu1440]

So then when did Jagi become a dick? Im actually asking.

[ZECTCustomUnit]

He always was considering he was the black sheep of the Hokuto brothers usually depending on weapons and cheap tactics than using actual fighting techniques...

[Loader2K1]

Senpuu1440: In regards to Kenshiro, Jagi was ALWAYS a dick to him, but had come to respect Raoh and Toki. In fact, Jagi tried to (JAGI GAIDEN SPOILER) choke Kenshiro to death when they first met (END SPOILER). Jagi had so much hatred for Kenshiro that (JAGI GAIDEN SPOILER) he actually attacked Kenshiro in the past when Ken tried to help his girlfriend Anna, whom was looking for Jagi for help after being literally raped to death by a evil biker gang (END SPOILER).

[TinyTitian]

ha were can i find jagi gaiden subbed

[Loader2K1]

Jagi Gaiden is not an anime. It's a manga currently being fan-translated into English by the people at Heart of Madness, a HNK fan board.

[egg64]

@senpuu1440 A good time before this. It was Jagi that influenced Shin to battle Ken and take Yuria against her will. He tried to convince Shin that Ken was naive, and to a certain degree he was right. But we see the beast Ken is today as a result of it.

[WarriorBoy]

I liked how it didn't go as far to show Kenshiro dodging bullets, it rather showed him pre-empting Jagi's attack and crossing that distance before Jagi knew what to do.

[NinjaGhostScorpion]

"At one time, I considered you my brother. No more!"

[andyseabrook]

kenshiro should have had the guts to kill jagi there and then,if he had shin wouldnt have become his enemy and yuria would not have been kidnapped

[VendavalEste]

And thus Hokuto No Ken would have sucked, lol.

[1966GUEI]

北斗有情慚滅拳hou to u jen chan mei ken

[Dudleyville]

were did u get this clip

[Yobelcito]

Porfavor ayudenme

como se llama la cancion de fondo que ponen cuando yuria

encuentra a kenshiro en el suelo y tambien creo

que es cuando combate con sauza en

HOKUTO NO KEN YURIA DEN(Febrero-2007)

respondanme porfavor ayuda...

[jemidar]

Waaay better than Streamline Pictures version!!!

[GorillaBastards]

no offense but im tired of people comparing these remakes to the old movie what about the actual series that the old movie is based on it's way fucking better than any of the god damn movies, ovas, or remakes dammitt check it out hokuto no ken on youtube theres 109 episodes!

[GnosisZX]

I actually like how ken was protrayed here very disciplined and did not attack jagi until he threatened his life. As for Raoh he had white hair in his original manga form

[Loader2K1]

To me, Jagi was a Machiavelian strategist that got in over his head. If he wanted to be the Hokuto Shinken grand master so badly, he should have laid low for some time, but used his cronies to keep tabs on Kenshiro. Eventually, Kenshiro and Raoh would have fought to the death, killing each other in the process, and Toki would have eventually died from the radiation poisoning, making Jagi the last surviving practitioner of Hokuto Shinken.

[VendavalEste]

That's pretty awesome and I like to think of the guy as some evil king after that, unfortunately, he was a dumbass.

[Loader2K1]

Yeah, me, too. If it were up to me, Jagi wouldn't have appeared until near the end of the series.  He would have used his Machiavelian ways to screw more people over, and would have picked up more moves. He would have fought Ken before Ken took on Raoh at Hokuto Renkitouza, explaining to Ken that he was the cause of everything that went wrong in Ken's life since Yuria was taken from him, making the fight more interesting.

[Loader2K1]

On a similar note, I don't think Jagi was ALWAYS evil. I think he was swayed by the power of knowing Hokuto Shinken and Raoh's ambition. In the original anime series, as a kid, he seemed to have trained as hard as his Hokuto brothers did. He even had the balls to spar with Raoh. But as Kenshiro said in the HNK movie dub by Streamline Pictures, "Damn. What a waste."

[VendavalEste]

I really wish there was something that showed Jagi's roots, as we saw Raoh and Toki as children together, what would have persuaded Ryuuken to take him on? I wonder why Jagi is such a favourite of mine, probably because he's such a bastard and manages to be likeable at the same time.

[Loader2K1]

That brings me to my next question: if Jagi was SO bad at Hokuto Shinken and evil, wouldn't it have made sense to eliminate him from the Hokuto Shinken school a long time ago?

[VendavalEste]

I think Ryuuken was a dick in general, lol. I don't imagine Jagi displayed much evil as a kid, and I wonder how good he is at Hokuto Shinken, but that was never displayed. You'd be right in guessing he was probably the worst practitioner, but even then he's a deadly force.

[Loader2K1]

You know what sucks? Even Yuda has been treated better than Jagi in the series, and HE FUCKING KILLED MAMIYA'S PARENTS!!! RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER!!!

[VendavalEste]

*Runs off to the bigger evil bastard*.

[Loader2K1]

I forgot to add that he also kidnapped and tortured Mamiya as well.

[VendavalEste]

Jagi did?

[Loader2K1]

No. Yuda did.

[VendavalEste]

Where did Yuda come in to this? o_o

[Loader2K1]

I guess it's just one of the many loose ends Buronson and Tetsuo Hara forgot to wrap up. The HNK series is notorious for that as well as plot holes and retcons.

[VendavalEste]

I think Ken's rage would have erupted if Jagi told him all that and thus Jagi would have been fucked, lol. I've got a little What-If in my head in which Jagi is the only surviving Hokuto brother, I don't know what he would have done about the battle Ken and Raoh at the end of the series, it would be typical of him to hide a good distance away and assassinate one of them with a sniper rifle after the fight.

[Loader2K1]

Sounds like a good HNK fan fiction. I seriously doubt a bullet from a sniper rifle would actually hurt either Kenshiro or Raoh; mastering Hokuto Shinken practically makes you a human god, so most conventional weapons wouldn't really have that much effect on them. In the 1986 HNK movie, Ken got hit point blank in the chest with an arrow, and he pulled it out like it was nothing.

[VendavalEste]

What I was thinking about the bullet hitting them was that they wouldn't know, so they'd catch it from shock. The many times Ken takes arrows in the series, I'd say he's braced himself for those.

[Loader2K1]

Still, I really don't think bullets would have any effect on neither Kenshiro nor Raoh. Jagi hit Kenshiro with a stone pillar and it didn't even phase Ken, and Raoh fell several stories to the ground because of Rihaku's trap, and it didn't even really hurt him.

Now that I think about it, Jagi pulling the gun on Kenshiro would have been useless, as Hokuto Shinken can make the human body literally stronger than steel.

[BernardBluth]

Loader2k1 you are correct that if Jagi had laid low for awhile he could have ended up a lot better off. But he stoped caring about wanting to be the successor after Kenshiro deformed him. After that he wanted nothing but to ruin Kenshiro's reputation and watch him die.

But even then if all the Hokuto masters croaked there were still Nanto peeps stronger than him. He still would have never been able to beat Souther or Juuza and it is unlikely even Rei, Shuu or Juda.

[Loader2K1]

True. Rei and possibly Shuu would have came for him eventually. However, I can see Jagi joining forces with Yuda and Souther, forming a Legion of Doom-style army, except with Hokuto and Nanto reunited in evil. And thus, Falco would have to come and give all three a Gento beatdown.

[peposo7]

hmmm. Souther vs Falco. That one Ken-oh met him, they knew it was going to be a draw. Still, it would be an interesting match. Maybe just like trying to figure out which technique Juuza would use against the Fang Clan leader and his iron body technique. :)

[Loader2K1]

My money is on Falco.

[usforeignpolicy]

the animation sucks, it's awful. the series and old movie was better.

[GorillaBastards]

i agree man whoever thumbs down on you has obviously never experienced the original series.

[jemidar]

Thanks. The thumbs down probably came from some guy(along with his cheerleading group)that I got into a debate with concerning the words "anime" and "cartoon".

[Izanagi1990]

i prefer the manga over the old series. And this remake its good for me...

[Rouenne]

It was upgraded in every way, but they took out and abridged too much important stuff to make it like good. Why can't they just copy the original but with the improvements?

[LetsGo6009]

what does Jagi call him at 2:04? pussy?

[Blairzerker]

He says "Urusei!" which means "Shut up!"

[LetsGo6009]

hey thz!

[youseeLA]

why is this any better than the original series?

[Looneveli]

im mad Roah got white hair

[peposo7]

People get old, you know? :)

[Gomess]

He originally did have white hair; it was turned black for the first anime.

[jasemac88]

jagi is such a damn loser

[tashaQ]

Very disapointing. I loved the manga and the TV series, but they could have done a better job with these remakes. The animation and quality is not up to today's standard and seems to lacky at times.

[cromcruac]

original version is MUCH better

[MDthornton83]

Well, I guess it helps to understand a forgein language so that way you don't have to read the subtitles to understand what they're saying. But then again, if you know the story by heart, then you'll know exactly what's going on.

[kaizer00]

The voice acting ain't the same though. It's kinda watered down. I Couldn't feel the rage.

[miami179]

i disegni fanno kagare!! xke devono rovinare sempre tutto??! mah!

[Izanagi1990]

por tano bruto! decir que el diseño es choto es un insulto... no esta mejor que el manga, pero si mejor que la serie vieja

[Loader2K1]

English subtitles would have been nice, but nice video.

[paraparajmo]

If you've seen the original series or so, you'll probably have a basic understanding. Jagi is pissed that Kenshiro is the successor and he fears that they will lose their memories.

[Loader2K1]

I know.

[lycurgus33]

Or become a vegetable.

[peposo7]

And that younger brothers are inferior. Just like in Royalty, he thinks that he deserves to be successor, just because hes older.