i think it goes deeper than the moon with these fantasists,they will all believe every conspiracy going.its an anti government agenda they all seem to have.
i find their replies amusing,not only do they choose to ignore the facts they resort to play ground tactics of mud slinging and name calling.
Yep, you're right. Many of these distrusters believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy and dominating organizations, Freemasons, Illuminati, Kinghts of Templar, Bilderberg Group etc.
They probably do a daily surveillance in their house, searching for pinhole cameras and microphones. I think it has something to do with some kind of pschological tendency for many people to think that all major events are orchestrated by some dark and significant organization.
Fascinating, sort of like watching a TV show you hate, right? In any event, I am not so familiar with the accounts you mention other than Jarrah White's excellent chanel (although I think he spends far too much time complaining) and ArcAngel4Myke, whose account you spelled correctly in the video, but incorrectly (added an "s":) in your comment above
The few video uploads of ArcAngel4Myke that I have seen and checked the NASA source on have been faithful to the source.. What would be a hoaxer?
"excellent chanel".. Excuse me? Yes, Jarrah maybe Youtube-famous' but in the real world he simply doesn't appear on the radar. To anyone with real expertise, Jarrah is a joke. He patently doesn't know what he's talking about, and he steadfastly refuses to engage the world's experts in open debate. I think the literary term is "howling from the shadows."
Jarrah delves into subjects that are quite clearly the domain of long-studied expertise, but he doesn't tell how he acquired the expertise necessary to sustain his conclusions. This is intolerable when the conclusions he draws differ so dramatically from the rest of the world's. He makes videos because he likes making videos, not because there's any scientifically redeeming value to them. He was invited to present his findings to REAL experts, but he ignored it.
Do you know the website Clavius Moonbase and ApolloHoax . net? Do you wonder why people like Jarrah do not show up there? Because mister White has always preferred to stay in his little walled garden where he can bask in the attention of his adoring group of fans, not having to face any real opposition. I think you know what would happen if he ever had to defend his theories in a mainstream forum against people who actually know what they're talking about.
ArcAngel4Myke (I corrected my fault, thank you); he's worse. Absolutely ridiculous. Why is commenting on his outrageous videos disabled?
"What would be a hoaxer?"
- Hoaxers appear to be presenting topics that have been dealt with by others, in great detail. They seldom provide explanation, substance, or methodology.
Many hoaxers follow these 3 steps:
1. base your 'proof' on unsupported claims
2. use NASA material to prove the hoax
3. never trust NASA material that says it was true
@Rob260259 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I disagree with ArcAngel4Myke's position on ratings and comments, but I fully understand why he would take that approach.
I do not censor in any way on my own video uploads and love all ratings, good or bad. In fact, my most popular videos are rated pretty low - mostly based, I suspect, on my atrocious video creating skills!
LOL yes the Apollo 11 landing vid has an enormous number of hoaxers posting constantly but I suspect it's only 4 or 5 people with 50 accounts, they all sound suspiciously alike when blabbering about no stars/waving flag/deadly radiation/etc. Like a broken record.
As I stated, I did a count and found about 45 different hoax heads. But it seems there is a growing number of people that is suffering some sort of paranoia and distrust. They think they are smarter than all scientist worldwide and base their knowledge on a few YouTube videos and hearsay.
The Moonhoaxconspiracy. Who are those conspiracists? I think these hoaxheads are driven by pathological inferiority complexes. They can't even begin to understand Apollo or the talent and hard work that went into it. Accepting it would do unacceptable damage to their fragile egos, so they are forced to deny it at all costs. At some level they do know it was real and that they cannot win an argument based only on facts and logic. So it becomes all about personalities and who-said-what.
@Rob260259 yep. they can spot astronauts dangling on wires, enjoying simulated 1/6 gravity. they can see nonparallel shadows, flag fluttering, no stars on emulsion films, no exhaust plume, no dust on lunar landing pads and many more such "INTELLIGENT" hypotheses!
What I think is funny is how they can just totally ignore any evidence or come up with an equally crazy explanation of how that evidence is a conspiracy or part of a giant cover up. I asked one guy why Russia didn't call foul if the moon landing was fake. lol He responded with an explanation of how the US and Russia were secretly working with each other and needed to keep up the fake space race to make money. lol Do they make this stuff up as they go?
Yep. Hoaxheads... they're a laugh. What about this: "The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts. He ascribes all his failure to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy."
People who believe in the moon hoax landing are the same people who believed the world was flat....no amount of logic or evidence will change their minds.
I say lets be happy they're not the one's running and doing things.
Yep... I think one of the main problems is that there appears to be a general psychological tendency for many people to think that a significant event must have been caused by something similarly major, significant or powerful. However, I can't understand how someone can get sucked into a hoax belief system based on the premise that every scientist and engineer in the world is either stupid or lying.
Yes, let's be happy.. and let's have a merry christmas.
Instead of searching Hyves, YouTube, Google and all sources that hold information about me, try to educate yourself about Apollo. I try to imagine why you find me so interesting, but I can surely imagine that there are more interesting fields. So PM me about anything you want to know, I really don't care.
Let me explain what a fake account is: thats when a person like rob260259 makes another acount under the name of receiver69, or dopje31857, or nasafaketits, or WhiteJarruh, orStraydogO2, or maybe un4g1v3nl. Did I forget anyone? Maybe the primarysecundary.
Maybe they don't have a problem with it, or haven't noticed? Maybe they don't want to give you the reaction you desire? I could ask them and they could all complain to YT. There are people on the Apollo side complaining about people breaking YT rules, therefor I am highlighting the fact that you are doing this, and possibly for harassment purposes.
You do not have a right to publicly announce people's personal beliefs or harvest usernames.
"you agree not to collect or harvest any personal data of any user of the Website or any Service (and agree that this shall be deemed to include YouTube account names);"
Always fun to come back here and watch your videos, Rob!
If you decide to continue the list of hoaxers, I suggest listing them in alphabetical order. Otherwise some of them might get wrong idea like they are more important than the others, while in fact they are all equally stupid.
Did you forget wengsky01, the dude who hangs onto that single NASA article with one poorly-constructed sentence about astronauts facing problems 'en-route' to the moon.. without ever stopping to consider that any new trip would also include a longer stay.
He maintains that the 'tech' to protect astronauts does not exist today, and hence did not exist in '69.
Trying to get through to him is like trying to fight water.
I have been monitoring some of these fools the past few weeks. I have the feeling that their belief in the hoax is fading away. Nevertheless there are die-hards, shouting "fake" and "shill" no matter what you write.
I think that when people start to get offensive that is a sign that they have lost the argument and they know it, I am amazed that some can still stick to their moon hoax belief when most of the evidence they cite is, at best, flawed, at worst laugable, I believe we went to the moon as I cannot see any reason why we could not have done so.
Thanks Mark. The track is coming from Armin van Buuren & Racoon and is called "Love You More". Armin is our no.2 DJ I guess, the no.1 ofcourse is Tiësto.
Thanks for doing this, man. Many of the same people who are hoax believers also believe 9/11 was an inside job, OJ was innocent, etc etc and have never left their hometowns! They need to get out and see the world.
The 9/11 conspiracy is the one that sickens me more. If you think Apollo is a hoax then I can live through that, and attempt to cut through the bad science.
9/11 is off the mark as far as conspiracy goes. I find the 9/11 conspiracy quite sickening.
The whole Alex Jones mindset is the problem. They 'find' hidden facts like Obama's Afghanistan push and hold it up as a discovery, even though he broadcast it on TV. They then work backwards full of mistrust and claim everything in history is fake, all the while repeating Jone's mantra, "wake up sheeple." NO MATTER what solid evidence is provided it can be dismissed as fake. Try it! Here is a photo of me on the moon in 2010 standing next to a rover. FAAAKKKEEEE!
I love the way these lunar hoaxtards have always said they'd only believe Apollo when there was corroborative evidence, and, as I have predicted, when the LRO photos came in showing the Apollo landing sites, they all changed their feeble minds and screamed 'fake!' They are denialists, who don't care about evidence or truth and cling desperately to their contrarian bullshit like a damn religion.
Some weeks befor launch of the LRO-mission I debated some idiot who said that all the pictures NASA would need to prove the landings were uploaded already. Yeah. Really. Forgot his name, but his first name was Jarrah.
I've found that conspiracy nuts think and argue just like fundamentalist religious believers, it must be due to the profound lack of credible evidence both of these have. A creationist once told me he'd convert to atheism if and when scientists could artificially create life, I had to tell him that if that happened, he'd immediately do a 180 degree turnaround and claim it proves life must have had an intelligent creator. Maybe the guy you debated was Jarrah Binks? LOL ;)
A few months before launch of the LRO, I've encountered two other idiots who "predicted" that LRO mission is sabotaged in similar way the Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) was allegedly made to fail...
All hoaxers just know the truF... different version of the truF each time.
Tells you something about level of their delusion.
Very nice, Rob. These are good resources. I'll favorite it for its hoaxer-battling reference value.
BTW, do you intentionally organize your videos on your channel page? This was done only yesterday but was below the bottom of the pane. It was just by chance that I saw it.
I just checked it out. It promotes 'spy-glasses', hemp seeds and is a mouth peice for nutters. It also boasts a whopping 15 Dollars of a required 1000.
So it is not a radio station per se. It is little more than something for Jawa Shite and his mates to shout and use silly words like shill and moontard.
I will tune in and put the radio by the fridge. Jawa Shites voice will keep the dog away.
@pt1gard I tend to speak on YT the same way I do in real life. May I ask you why you feel that name calling, abuse, swearing and casting doubt on people's education, honesty sexuality is part and parcel of folks of your ilk? I often notice people,like myself, try and help you understand things, yet are met with nothing but a torrent of abused.
Ahhh! When the mind is found wanting, profanity is its only recourse.
What is this radio show that you speak of? I'll listen to it on the net or is it one of the "Yeehaa, I just done saw me a light in the sky. Bless Jesus!" type of show?
Well done. but you forgot to include the work of independent scientists in fields like lunar petrology, selenodesy, and a host of other fields. The results of which have been published for peer review in publications from around the world. NASA is a good source but they are not the only source validating the Apollo missions.
Thanks. Yes I agree. I think I'm going to do a part b of this video. Just some sort of line-up with publications and information available. There is an overwhelming amount...
anyone with guts enough, email me at this sn at aol and Ill make sure you know when radio shows exposing nasa lies will be broadcast, phone in or forever be the pussies you all are :)
Good work. If you're looking for documentation on Apollo, be sure to include the mother lode: the NASA Technical Reports Server, ntrs nasa gov. As the name implies it's not limited to Apollo, but covers everything NASA does. Just type in some keywords and see how utterly ridiculous the hoaxers' claims are that "all the blueprints" for Apollo have been lost or destroyed.
LOL! I have run into several of these characters on YT in the past years. I have even dedicated a portion of my channel to these and other conspiracy theorists out there. It's called my Conspiracy Theorist Technique Checklist, 20 antics we have all come to know and love.
Thanks to Rob for this post and thanks to all the CTs out there who have thus far given me hours of entertainment. Also thanks to the other voices of reason who helped make sure YT was not entirely overrun.
Well, that puts the YouTube hoax community into context. A handful of delusionals that if they rubbed their credentials together could not create enough heat to warm a flea circus.
Nice work Rob. If anything good has come from the moon hoax theory, it is that it's given attention to amazing accomplishments of the Apollo missions. And while some will be offended, I think most of the names mentioned in your video will be tickled to see "their name in lights". Good for them. If it leads more people to examine the evidence, good for them.
That is the most boring vid I've ever seen. Even the music is boring.
dvaidr 2 months ago
@dvaidr
Still you watched some of it. Thank you for your bright words of wisdom.
Rob260259 2 months ago
i think it goes deeper than the moon with these fantasists,they will all believe every conspiracy going.its an anti government agenda they all seem to have.
i find their replies amusing,not only do they choose to ignore the facts they resort to play ground tactics of mud slinging and name calling.
the classic signs of someone on their back foot
good vid rob
markandrach 3 months ago
@markandrach
Yep, you're right. Many of these distrusters believe the world is run by schizophrenic shadowy and dominating organizations, Freemasons, Illuminati, Kinghts of Templar, Bilderberg Group etc.
They probably do a daily surveillance in their house, searching for pinhole cameras and microphones. I think it has something to do with some kind of pschological tendency for many people to think that all major events are orchestrated by some dark and significant organization.
Rob260259 3 months ago
The hoaxers: adiohead, arcangel4myke, astroclownbuster, aurinkohirvi, awe130, gijsshu, cosmored, ed11561, egmag, fanbutton, foosmasoos, greenmagoos, hunchbacked, johnsenkenn, mooninquirer, michaelstmark, nasafakedit, nekotech, t1gard, sergemck, stalkervision, straydog02, timrocket, un4g1v3nl, user17v, wengsky01, whitejarrah, wsee.
Rob260259 3 months ago
Fascinating, sort of like watching a TV show you hate, right? In any event, I am not so familiar with the accounts you mention other than Jarrah White's excellent chanel (although I think he spends far too much time complaining) and ArcAngel4Myke, whose account you spelled correctly in the video, but incorrectly (added an "s":) in your comment above
The few video uploads of ArcAngel4Myke that I have seen and checked the NASA source on have been faithful to the source.. What would be a hoaxer?
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes
"excellent chanel".. Excuse me? Yes, Jarrah maybe Youtube-famous' but in the real world he simply doesn't appear on the radar. To anyone with real expertise, Jarrah is a joke. He patently doesn't know what he's talking about, and he steadfastly refuses to engage the world's experts in open debate. I think the literary term is "howling from the shadows."
Rob260259 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes
Jarrah delves into subjects that are quite clearly the domain of long-studied expertise, but he doesn't tell how he acquired the expertise necessary to sustain his conclusions. This is intolerable when the conclusions he draws differ so dramatically from the rest of the world's. He makes videos because he likes making videos, not because there's any scientifically redeeming value to them. He was invited to present his findings to REAL experts, but he ignored it.
Rob260259 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes
Do you know the website Clavius Moonbase and ApolloHoax . net? Do you wonder why people like Jarrah do not show up there? Because mister White has always preferred to stay in his little walled garden where he can bask in the attention of his adoring group of fans, not having to face any real opposition. I think you know what would happen if he ever had to defend his theories in a mainstream forum against people who actually know what they're talking about.
Rob260259 3 months ago
@CNN911Fakes
ArcAngel4Myke (I corrected my fault, thank you); he's worse. Absolutely ridiculous. Why is commenting on his outrageous videos disabled?
"What would be a hoaxer?"
- Hoaxers appear to be presenting topics that have been dealt with by others, in great detail. They seldom provide explanation, substance, or methodology.
Many hoaxers follow these 3 steps:
1. base your 'proof' on unsupported claims
2. use NASA material to prove the hoax
3. never trust NASA material that says it was true
Rob260259 3 months ago
@Rob260259 Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I disagree with ArcAngel4Myke's position on ratings and comments, but I fully understand why he would take that approach.
I do not censor in any way on my own video uploads and love all ratings, good or bad. In fact, my most popular videos are rated pretty low - mostly based, I suspect, on my atrocious video creating skills!
So, thanks again for a thoughtul reply.
CNN911Fakes 3 months ago
LOL yes the Apollo 11 landing vid has an enormous number of hoaxers posting constantly but I suspect it's only 4 or 5 people with 50 accounts, they all sound suspiciously alike when blabbering about no stars/waving flag/deadly radiation/etc. Like a broken record.
Blahblobify 7 months ago
@Blahblobify
As I stated, I did a count and found about 45 different hoax heads. But it seems there is a growing number of people that is suffering some sort of paranoia and distrust. They think they are smarter than all scientist worldwide and base their knowledge on a few YouTube videos and hearsay.
Rob260259 7 months ago
The Moonhoaxconspiracy. Who are those conspiracists? I think these hoaxheads are driven by pathological inferiority complexes. They can't even begin to understand Apollo or the talent and hard work that went into it. Accepting it would do unacceptable damage to their fragile egos, so they are forced to deny it at all costs. At some level they do know it was real and that they cannot win an argument based only on facts and logic. So it becomes all about personalities and who-said-what.
Rob260259 1 year ago
@Rob260259 yep. they can spot astronauts dangling on wires, enjoying simulated 1/6 gravity. they can see nonparallel shadows, flag fluttering, no stars on emulsion films, no exhaust plume, no dust on lunar landing pads and many more such "INTELLIGENT" hypotheses!
long live warriors of the hoaxhead clans!
zambi007i 4 months ago
What I think is funny is how they can just totally ignore any evidence or come up with an equally crazy explanation of how that evidence is a conspiracy or part of a giant cover up. I asked one guy why Russia didn't call foul if the moon landing was fake. lol He responded with an explanation of how the US and Russia were secretly working with each other and needed to keep up the fake space race to make money. lol Do they make this stuff up as they go?
shananagans5 1 year ago
@shananagans5
Yep. Hoaxheads... they're a laugh. What about this: "The central belief of every moron is that he is the victim of a mysterious conspiracy against his common rights and true deserts. He ascribes all his failure to get on in the world, all of his congenital incapacity and damfoolishness, to the machinations of werewolves assembled in Wall Street, or some other such den of infamy."
- Henry L. Mencken, American journalist 1936
Rob260259 1 year ago
Very good vid...problem is...
People who believe in the moon hoax landing are the same people who believed the world was flat....no amount of logic or evidence will change their minds.
I say lets be happy they're not the one's running and doing things.
inotnad 1 year ago
@inotnad
Yep... I think one of the main problems is that there appears to be a general psychological tendency for many people to think that a significant event must have been caused by something similarly major, significant or powerful. However, I can't understand how someone can get sucked into a hoax belief system based on the premise that every scientist and engineer in the world is either stupid or lying.
Yes, let's be happy.. and let's have a merry christmas.
Rob260259 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I think these hoaxheads are driven by pathological inferiority complexes.
I don't need a pathological inferiority complex to speak out my opinion. Do you? Or do you need another account for that?
gijsshu 1 year ago
No, didn't foundt that one yet. haven't been looking for it. But a strange coincidence you got the same receiver as dopje.
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Not strange Gijs. ICOM sold several thousands in the 80's, many of them in Europe.
Funny you mention "receiver"... LOL
Rob260259 1 year ago
Rob, youn forgot me ocne again. Is it because I've got so much information about you?
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
If you read my book, you will have a whole lot more information Gijs. Don't have to buy it, it's in a lot of libraries.
Rob260259 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Instead of searching Hyves, YouTube, Google and all sources that hold information about me, try to educate yourself about Apollo. I try to imagine why you find me so interesting, but I can surely imagine that there are more interesting fields. So PM me about anything you want to know, I really don't care.
Rob260259 1 year ago
Hey fakedog, Don't you think you should include me? How about 31857 Ring a bell? your number at "van Speijkk"?
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Yep. My number. As long you don't mention my social-security number here, it's allright with me. By the way: "Van Speijk".
Rob260259 1 year ago
Check this out: there is a person with your number impersonating dopje. Said enough? Van Speijk)
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Gijs, je ben er maar druk mee. F802, klopt.
Rob260259 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Did you find my numbers on the other ships, too? Found A832 already?
Rob260259 1 year ago
Je hebt gelijk, ik heb mijn vorige berichten 'deleted'. Volgende keer misschien R. van S.
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Middernacht Gijs. Ik ga onder zeil.
ps: niet slim om namen van gebruikers te noemen op YT. Maar als je dat leuk vindt, moet je 't doen.
Rob260259 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Hou je niet zo van Armin van Buuren?
Rob260259 1 year ago
ik krijg er "blauwe plekken" van
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Misschien moet je dan de speakers wat minder hard zetten?
Rob260259 1 year ago
@Rob260259 misspelled receiver69
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Misspelled forget, too. I guess you meant "forgot".
But relax Gijsje, it takes another major idiocy to be mentioned in the list.
Dus gewoon je best blijven doen met domme dingen zeggen, dan lukt het je vast.
LOL
Rob260259 1 year ago
@Rob260259 you forgt me, receuver
gijsshu 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Who is/are rob.
6 minuten geleden
Let me explain what a fake account is: thats when a person like rob260259 makes another acount under the name of receiver69, or dopje31857, or nasafaketits, or WhiteJarruh, orStraydogO2, or maybe un4g1v3nl. Did I forget anyone? Maybe the primarysecundary.
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Yes Gijsje, you forgot another 42. And you forgot to mention that I'm probably paid by NASA to do some damage control.
Sufferd.
Rob260259 1 year ago
@Rob260259 Ik krijg "blauwe plekken"
gijsshu 1 year ago
@gijsshu
Is oké. Heb je 't boek trouwens gelezen?
Rob260259 1 year ago
@Rob260259
Maybe they don't have a problem with it, or haven't noticed? Maybe they don't want to give you the reaction you desire? I could ask them and they could all complain to YT. There are people on the Apollo side complaining about people breaking YT rules, therefor I am highlighting the fact that you are doing this, and possibly for harassment purposes.
You do not have a right to publicly announce people's personal beliefs or harvest usernames.
adiohead 1 year ago
@adiohead
"...or haven't noticed?"
Please Adiohead, go tell them all. Please do. I couldn't care less about those reactions and about their complaining.
Accusing people of murder, without a shread of microscopic evidence, that should be reason for a complaint.
So go ahead, wake up all your hoaxheaded friends.
Rob260259 1 year ago 14
Looks good to me. So why are some of them so touchy about being listed with their peers?
Astrobrant2 1 year ago
@Astrobrant2
Ghehe... They are hoaxheads but they don't want to know it I guess.
Rob260259 1 year ago
@Astrobrant2
Hehe. Maybe some of them hoax believers think that they are smarter than the other hoax believers?
GoneToPlaid 1 year ago
@GoneToPlaid Some of them are definitely not as smart as others.
philwebb59 1 year ago
@philwebb59
I would give you 5 thumbs up for that comment, but YT only allows one!
GoneToPlaid 1 year ago
@Astrobrant2
Because it breaks the Youtube rules. Pretty simple, really :)
adiohead 1 year ago
@adiohead I could look it up, but I'm busy debunking more of Jarrah's nonsense. What's the rule?
Astrobrant2 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Rob260259
"you agree not to collect or harvest any personal data of any user of the Website or any Service (and agree that this shall be deemed to include YouTube account names);"
adiohead 1 year ago
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Everybody looking for documentation on Apollo, try the NASA Technical Reports Server:
h t t p : //ntrs . nasa . gov/search . jsp
Just type in some keywords and see how utterly ridiculous the hoaxers' claims are that "all the blueprints" for Apollo have been lost or destroyed.
Rob260259 1 year ago
This is a great video! Brilliant! Thumbs up!
utoobasaurus 1 year ago
Always fun to come back here and watch your videos, Rob!
If you decide to continue the list of hoaxers, I suggest listing them in alphabetical order. Otherwise some of them might get wrong idea like they are more important than the others, while in fact they are all equally stupid.
BlisterHiker 1 year ago
No blueprints for the LM?
w w w . btinternet . com/~ursine/LMhandbook . pdf
Rob260259 2 years ago 7
Did you forget wengsky01, the dude who hangs onto that single NASA article with one poorly-constructed sentence about astronauts facing problems 'en-route' to the moon.. without ever stopping to consider that any new trip would also include a longer stay.
He maintains that the 'tech' to protect astronauts does not exist today, and hence did not exist in '69.
Trying to get through to him is like trying to fight water.
krisdevalle 2 years ago
Hey Rob, I'm late, I know.
Ok, I've seen some pretty interesting names in this list, brief description included :
Greenmagoos: first landing was done by Apollo 9, no no, Nazis went first. A shadow is a wire. A cam glitch is a composite image splash.
Straydog02: all is all, nothing is nothing, nothing is all.
u4g1v3n1: Radioactivity is not ionizing.
ItalianoAmericano: Sibrel is true and Sibrel is a fake.
aurinkohirvi: Radiation Belts were not a problem so a wired-pulled guy can throw dust.
jcgmed 2 years ago
@jcgmed
You are never late JC.
I have been monitoring some of these fools the past few weeks. I have the feeling that their belief in the hoax is fading away. Nevertheless there are die-hards, shouting "fake" and "shill" no matter what you write.
Rob260259 2 years ago
Such die-hards must admit that they simply dont want to believe in the Apollo missions, overcome it and live normal lives.
jcgmed 2 years ago
I'm afraid that the word 'admit' does not exist in their vocabulary JC.
Rob260259 2 years ago
Out of all of these Timrocket is the only one who can, sometimes, debate in a reasonable way...
Until he starts spewing out bullshit of how he's supported by the scientific and physic communities.
A serious case of delusion.
WeenieManX 2 years ago 3
Funny you say that; I had the same experience with him.
Rob260259 2 years ago
He is ok untill you shoot down his argument
musicbruv 2 years ago
Yep. Sometimes I had the idea he was just fooling around, but within a few moments he went offensive and insulting. I stopped 'discussing' with him.
Rob260259 2 years ago
I think that when people start to get offensive that is a sign that they have lost the argument and they know it, I am amazed that some can still stick to their moon hoax belief when most of the evidence they cite is, at best, flawed, at worst laugable, I believe we went to the moon as I cannot see any reason why we could not have done so.
musicbruv 2 years ago 2
Timrocket is a mystery. Sometimes he makes sense, other times he gets things totally wrong.
When he first appeared, he didn't understand that you didn't need thrust on all the way to the moon.
He thinks magnets don't work in space because they are too far away from the Poles...!!
Then he assumed NASA sent audio recorders into space to 'hear' the sounds of Saturn.
Sometimes I think something gets through because he stops arguing about it. There's some hope.
krisdevalle 2 years ago
Good work Rob, I am very impressed.
musicbruv 2 years ago 19
Hey there Rob, nice video, as always.
It's a bit off topic, but as you might know I spend what little spare time I have (when not fixing aircraft and debating with hoaxers) as a DJ.
Any chance you can tell me what the track is on this video?
:)
markjh2005 2 years ago 3
Thanks Mark. The track is coming from Armin van Buuren & Racoon and is called "Love You More". Armin is our no.2 DJ I guess, the no.1 ofcourse is Tiësto.
watch?v=71WK5gtTh64
Rob260259 2 years ago
By the way Mark, I wil use some of the afterparty music I compose and arrange myself in my next video. I am pretty sure you will like it.
Rob260259 2 years ago
Greenmagoos, Straydog02, pt1gard, michaelstmark, un4g1v3n1, ItalianoAmericano, aurinkohirvi, sergemck, stalkervision, claytonstarbar, EGMAG, northerntruthseeker, johnsenkenn, ArcAngel4Myke, hunchbacked, fanbutton, FoosMasoos, Cosmored (FatFreddy88), timrocket, WhiteJarrah.
The 'cream' of YouTube. The delusionals, thinking they are smarter than 40 years worth of science and engineering.
Rob260259 2 years ago
Thanks for doing this, man. Many of the same people who are hoax believers also believe 9/11 was an inside job, OJ was innocent, etc etc and have never left their hometowns! They need to get out and see the world.
charliegoodboy 2 years ago 2
@charliegoodboy
The 9/11 conspiracy is the one that sickens me more. If you think Apollo is a hoax then I can live through that, and attempt to cut through the bad science.
9/11 is off the mark as far as conspiracy goes. I find the 9/11 conspiracy quite sickening.
LukeQuixoteofSanJose 2 years ago 3
Luke, I found that 35 out of 45 moonhoaxers also do NWO and 9/11. Wonder why....
Rob260259 2 years ago
The whole Alex Jones mindset is the problem. They 'find' hidden facts like Obama's Afghanistan push and hold it up as a discovery, even though he broadcast it on TV. They then work backwards full of mistrust and claim everything in history is fake, all the while repeating Jone's mantra, "wake up sheeple." NO MATTER what solid evidence is provided it can be dismissed as fake. Try it! Here is a photo of me on the moon in 2010 standing next to a rover. FAAAKKKEEEE!
AbelMagwitch73 2 years ago 3
I love the way these lunar hoaxtards have always said they'd only believe Apollo when there was corroborative evidence, and, as I have predicted, when the LRO photos came in showing the Apollo landing sites, they all changed their feeble minds and screamed 'fake!' They are denialists, who don't care about evidence or truth and cling desperately to their contrarian bullshit like a damn religion.
alien8ted 2 years ago
Some weeks befor launch of the LRO-mission I debated some idiot who said that all the pictures NASA would need to prove the landings were uploaded already. Yeah. Really. Forgot his name, but his first name was Jarrah.
Rob260259 2 years ago
I've found that conspiracy nuts think and argue just like fundamentalist religious believers, it must be due to the profound lack of credible evidence both of these have. A creationist once told me he'd convert to atheism if and when scientists could artificially create life, I had to tell him that if that happened, he'd immediately do a 180 degree turnaround and claim it proves life must have had an intelligent creator. Maybe the guy you debated was Jarrah Binks? LOL ;)
alien8ted 2 years ago
A few months before launch of the LRO, I've encountered two other idiots who "predicted" that LRO mission is sabotaged in similar way the Orbiting Carbon Observatory (OCO) was allegedly made to fail...
All hoaxers just know the truF... different version of the truF each time.
Tells you something about level of their delusion.
BlisterHiker 2 years ago 2
Hey, maybe you should make a similar video listing the Apollo defenders and hoax debunkers. Like bookends.
Astrobrant2 2 years ago
Very nice, Rob. These are good resources. I'll favorite it for its hoaxer-battling reference value.
BTW, do you intentionally organize your videos on your channel page? This was done only yesterday but was below the bottom of the pane. It was just by chance that I saw it.
Astrobrant2 2 years ago
@Astrobrant2
Nope. I do not organize them. Yet. I soon will. Thanks.
Rob260259 2 years ago
Do you mean you e-mail address? How would I have that?
Post it here so we can all see. And (i'll do it slowly) W-h-a-t radio s-t-a-t-i-o-n is it?
AbelMagwitch73 2 years ago
@AbelMagwitch73
i posted it on here many times, here it is slowly for you, dumbshit....
this sn at aol ...
now, i have posted the radio stations many times too, read slowly so your limited fissures dont dry rot
rbn, and oraclebroadcasting
prepare to ge owned, liar shill, thanks :)
and you wont show, so why the charade LMFAO
pt1gard 2 years ago
I just checked it out. It promotes 'spy-glasses', hemp seeds and is a mouth peice for nutters. It also boasts a whopping 15 Dollars of a required 1000.
So it is not a radio station per se. It is little more than something for Jawa Shite and his mates to shout and use silly words like shill and moontard.
I will tune in and put the radio by the fridge. Jawa Shites voice will keep the dog away.
AbelMagwitch73 2 years ago
@pt1gard, is instantly thumbing down contributions of non-hoaxers the only thing you can do?
Rob260259 2 years ago
@pt1gard I tend to speak on YT the same way I do in real life. May I ask you why you feel that name calling, abuse, swearing and casting doubt on people's education, honesty sexuality is part and parcel of folks of your ilk? I often notice people,like myself, try and help you understand things, yet are met with nothing but a torrent of abused.
Why do you do it?
AbelMagwitch73 2 years ago 2
Ahhh! When the mind is found wanting, profanity is its only recourse.
What is this radio show that you speak of? I'll listen to it on the net or is it one of the "Yeehaa, I just done saw me a light in the sky. Bless Jesus!" type of show?
AbelMagwitch73 2 years ago
watch?v=pGDcLuFZM1s
that radio show?
Rob260259 2 years ago
Well done. but you forgot to include the work of independent scientists in fields like lunar petrology, selenodesy, and a host of other fields. The results of which have been published for peer review in publications from around the world. NASA is a good source but they are not the only source validating the Apollo missions.
Skytroop 2 years ago
Thanks. Yes I agree. I think I'm going to do a part b of this video. Just some sort of line-up with publications and information available. There is an overwhelming amount...
Rob260259 2 years ago
Fantastic done!
But if there are so few, and so active then could indicate that their wife, girlfriend already left them and live with their mother and have no work.
Maybe interesting to see how they are distributed around the world. I have the impression they all come from the USA.
obaeyens 2 years ago
anyone with guts enough, email me at this sn at aol and Ill make sure you know when radio shows exposing nasa lies will be broadcast, phone in or forever be the pussies you all are :)
custard, still playing with army men? LMFAO :)
pt1gard 2 years ago
@pt1gard
And sit in a Muppet show with Jawa and some of his cohorts? No thanks.
Still seeing wires Pt1?
Rob260259 2 years ago
What is it abour radio shows and PT1?
Just like creation 'scientists', Apollo revisionists just shout a lot of stuff about dust and offer soundbites from some guy.
AbelMagwitch73 2 years ago
Why not give the stations and schedules here? Afraid too many people might know?
ApolloWasReal 2 years ago
Good work. If you're looking for documentation on Apollo, be sure to include the mother lode: the NASA Technical Reports Server, ntrs nasa gov. As the name implies it's not limited to Apollo, but covers everything NASA does. Just type in some keywords and see how utterly ridiculous the hoaxers' claims are that "all the blueprints" for Apollo have been lost or destroyed.
ApolloWasReal 2 years ago
@ApolloWasReal
Yes! I will make a 'sticky' of that, on top of all comments here. Thanks AWR.
Rob260259 2 years ago
Cream of YouTube! :-)
I've saved some of the most idiotic claims made by one of those geniuses: timrocket2008.
Examples:
- Moon has vacuum atmosphere
- Moon's vacuum atmosphere distortions would rip spacesuits apart
- Heat and the Moon would ruin the film
- Moon is pure radiation
We should compile examples of their stupidity and save it for posterity!
BlisterHiker 2 years ago
@BlisterHiker
"we should compile examples..."
Agree on that! What about these:
"Everything was filmed in the Vomet Comet"
"ISS is recorded in a huge watertank"
"Apollo rockets were launched unmanned with taperecorders on board"
"The LRO could not see the LM on the moon because it was used to return"
"The Apollo rocket went up and exploded in space"
"There was not enough time to make pictures"
Just some idiotic stuff I remember from recent 'discussions'.
Rob260259 2 years ago
"timrocket"
There are some levels of stupidity that are impenetrable to reality. And timrocket is right there.
ytmoog 2 years ago
@BlisterHiker
I've got a couple saved up... I was thinking of doing a top 10.
LukeQuixoteofSanJose 2 years ago
@LukeQuixoteofSanJose
Make that a top 20...! I have another 10, 15 stored. For my kids, when they need a good laugh.
Rob260259 2 years ago
Luke, Rob,
I think I will compile a list of the most stupid hoax claims I've encountered and make a video about it.
If you guys decide to do similar thing, it's even better.
It never hurts to present those geniuses to all YT viewers, even if some examples get repeated.
My favorites of stupidity are timrocket2008, secularvoice and claytonstarbar, though whitejarrah won't escape my attention too.
BlisterHiker 2 years ago 2
@BlisterHiker
go ahead. I am too busy with other things. I will post some idiocy from hoaxers to you.
Rob260259 2 years ago
You will have plenty of choice there.
What with timrocket claiming the expansion of the universe would cause astronauts to explode and clay with his holographic ISS :)
ytmoog 2 years ago 3
LOL! I have run into several of these characters on YT in the past years. I have even dedicated a portion of my channel to these and other conspiracy theorists out there. It's called my Conspiracy Theorist Technique Checklist, 20 antics we have all come to know and love.
Thanks to Rob for this post and thanks to all the CTs out there who have thus far given me hours of entertainment. Also thanks to the other voices of reason who helped make sure YT was not entirely overrun.
Deke101 2 years ago
Well, that puts the YouTube hoax community into context. A handful of delusionals that if they rubbed their credentials together could not create enough heat to warm a flea circus.
LukeQuixoteofSanJose 2 years ago
Nice work Rob. If anything good has come from the moon hoax theory, it is that it's given attention to amazing accomplishments of the Apollo missions. And while some will be offended, I think most of the names mentioned in your video will be tickled to see "their name in lights". Good for them. If it leads more people to examine the evidence, good for them.
kaleljordankent 2 years ago