There are three things that are very important within Kyudo: Truth, Goodness and Beauty. Three things that many of the comments on this thread do not contain.
Kudos to you who do understand what Kyudo is all about!
@cumensu It's just to get the sleeve out of the way as far as I can tell. I'm talking from an archery point of view but I think I'm right about it as I would wear an arm brace to keep my cuffs out of the way of the string and they are wearing epic cuffs. It's also probably been stylized a lot over time to be nipples out. Hope that helps.
@DolorousSam, thanks for clearing it up for me, I thought it was very strange. Especially when done in slow motion. But I don't understand the sentence before the last.
@cumensu I just think that one master said bring it down to below the nip and then his student said to their student and so on until it became an important part. Like bowing other ceremonial things. Hope that made sense.
@DolorousSam, thanks for your explanation. It sounds funny but you are right a lot of traditions we hold today aren't of any importance but born of formality. :)
@zzwhiteboitt Which contradicts the opening quote entirely rofl. This documentary is just a piece of shit on a tradition that was originally a piece of shit,
If you do archery idgaf how spiritual or any bullshit like that it gets. Just fucking hit the target if you spend an hour staring at it k?
Ohh high and to the right. I'm sorry Master Soshi you've been eliminated from Top Shot. Master Ichi as winner of this week's Elimination Challenge please step forward for your $2000 Bass Pro Shops gift card.
berznichi- Honour my ass! That's why in Eric Lomax book, 'The Railway man', when a former British POW met with his former captor, the Japanese ex- soldier broke down and apologised.
@DDave43 that`s because of their understanding of honor. if u`ve been captured u have no honor so there is no need to show mercy. think samurais did harrikiri for fun? and it`s not only about hitting the target
@DDave43@berzinichi More than half of cause of IJA soldiers death during the WWII was due to disease and starvation. and more than 2million Japanese soldiers died during the war. Japan was fighting on the absolute edge.
@Almost Everyone What does Japanese archery have to do w/ tsunamis, earthquakes and American sports and why is it that no one can watch video and post a comment that's related to the video?
"I'm afraid", answered me, "that I don't understand anything. Even the most simple seems like the more complicated. It's me who shoots the arrow or the bow that shoots at me? The "something" is spiritual, seem with the eyes of flesh or flesh seem with the eyes of the spirit? It's both or no one? Everything, me, the bow, the arrow, the target are connected and I can't see the way to separate them. And the wish to do it is gone. Because, when I hold the bow and I shoot everything goes so simple."
the only thing I dont understand is how you achieve total concentration while trying to hold both arrows in 1 hand. What's the purpose of this act? I do love the idea of Kyudo
@ruzickaw Actually quite a lot spontaneity is involved,because even if its looking formalized and rigid the archer has to control constantly restlessness without losing intensity. There is a kyudo saying:
The beginner makes ten major errors.
The advanced one hundred smaller ones.
And the expert thousands of tiny ones.
With every new level of training your attention grows and the shooting is more and more improvisation.
@MoronicJoker I doubt if the shooting becomes more improvisation. The form becomes so rigid that there is not much room for spontaneity. Maybe only a very tiny one.
the zen master can shoot an arrow beyond its accepted range and hit a target about the size of an apple while the target is moving... he did not miss he hit exactly where he intended to
.. there are some very ignorant people in this world.... quote..' LOL he missed ' !
failing to understand.. its not about hitting the target..
Maybe people in the 'West' can take a lesson from the 'Eastern' mind..
I live in Tokyo and its nice to live in a country where there is NO crime ... can you understand that.. no crime.... I think it makes people in the west seem their minds are out of control... or... " Out of their Minds'....
I bet he is glad he spent years practicing that to miss. If he missed on purpose that defeats the point because he wasted energy and time doing so only to fail his objective.
@12thHamster its not just japanese archery but all types of archery include the "zen" aspect. all archers use a form of meditation to achief there focus. each archer follows his own ritual of standing, drawing, anchoring and lining up there checkpoints. that should be every archers priority. and only once u keep those things right u can focus on aiming.
so zen meditation will actually help your aiming but u will also need technique and expierience or else your arrows will still miss the mark
At the beginning of any kyudo competition, a master is invited to take one shot as a symbol. The shot is always missed to remind people the key spirit of kyudo.
@12thHamster seems simple enough, release the self far enough and being the whole you have options. bet it get tempting to stay. you can also move toward the path by becoming still and watching. it'd be fun but thats not watching from a still place. unless you ar both watching and being the fun and being still. neat eh!?
@12thHamster well.. in battle they didnt really take that much time shooting ^^ but I dont think they can compete with a Longbow :P but Zen meditation and bows dont really go hand in hand :P
@12thHamster From my perspective, it's one of those things where its not your destination that counts, it's the journey. The point is not to hit the target, its to achieve that moment of extreme concentration. That focused type of energy is only found with practices such as sniping, or practicing Kyudo. In both practices you are aiming to hit a target, but the goal of sniping is to kill, where as the goal of kyudo is spiritual awakening.
if the "art of baking" gave you centered thought, improved concentration, and profound clarity in all aspects of life, so long as it was performed with mindfulness and concentration, would it really matter to you, as an individual, if anyone else wanted to eat what you baked?
if the "art of baking" gave you centered thought, improved concentration, and profound clarity in all aspects of life, so long as it was performed with mindfulness and concentration, would it really matter to you, as an individual, if anyone else wanted to eat what you baked?
Think of it more as a predecessor to modern instinct shooting. You don't need to aim because you already know wehre the projectile is going after countless hours of practice and empting the mind of distractions. Kinda like the reason why Jerry Miculek can put 8 shots on the target blindfolded, no he's doesn't study Kyudo, but he is applying the concepts.
@12thHamster The arrow missed the target, so as the guy himself. If he want an empty mind, to reach a thoughtless state of mind - to miss the self - he have to meditate. But for that he do not need a bow. It is like cooking with a sword. It is probably a relic of an ancient art of archery, when the empty mind was the tool to hit the target. Using a bow to empty the mind is just upside down.
"Spiritual state of nothingness" is not a meaning "There is nothing, too" even if it is said, "Nothing". It is to remove all sincerely own evil thoughts, and to unite the spirits.
@twominutesremaining You must be joking, go back to school before you try to say anything about my people. Go figure out who invented the printing process, compass.
@twominutesremaining You think the American plants are any safer than the ones on the Japanese coast? It's the same design from the same companies. Three mile island. Look it up. You don't know what you are talking about.
@twominutesremaining How does that prove superiority? Anyway, your argument is stupid and invalid. You're taking credit for what your ancestors did decades ago. You literally took no part at all in any of this nation's great achievements... you were just born on the land mass they were done on.
If you're a failure, you're a failure.. You're countries success doesn't really change that. And you are indeed a failure at putting together an argument. And trolling.
so are you. the only difference between us is that you probably make jack shit and i did an average of 1.3 mio per year of the last 6 years. enjoy being poor and technologicaly retarded faggot
@MrSneakmind remind that japan still got their emperor. an emperor in combination with lived tradtions... there actually is no room for a riot.
but imagine what could happen with greed, speaking of atomic plants, if this would happened to more regions in japan or all over the world (building the biggest in the near future in india..) and eradicating all local culture? horrible vision.
@kakabukkake0 Uh yeah if you didn't notice, rioting because the lakers win a game doesn't make sense either. Riots aren't supposed to make sense. they're riots You have them because you're angry about something. The japanese could have rioted against their government because of their failure to distribute supplies given to them by the red cross, but they didn't. They waited patiently, speeding up the process.
I'm not trying to be a weaboo I'm just saying that no one race is superior over another
@MrSneakmind Lakers riots are upsurged mostly by Mexicans and very few Blacks and poor Whites. I know this sounds like bigotry but get real. Majority society would tolerate no such thing. Lack of interest in civilization is the problem. not for all Americans, but the unnecessary, shameless, brute ones.
@pakk82 "Lakers riots are upsurged mostly by Mexicans and very few Blacks and poor Whites. "
I am sure the Mexican and black were poor as well. So cut the racist crap and just say that poor are more likely to be rioting since they have so little to lose. That would be honest, not have made you look like the total bigot fag that you are. in the end, they are all American. And American are retards. Including the rich that fail to understand that sharing the wealth maintain social peace. Fuck off!
@newtubetubetube what? fag? isnt that a homophobic word? OH im so offended? racist comment makes you butt-hurt but calling homo faggots dont bother you? you selective cocksucker cunt.
@pakk82 Fag is, in no way, related to homosexuality. Do your research... only misguided prick use fag in a homophobic way. On the other hand cocksucker is high homophobic and revolting. Fuck you very much.
@newtubetubetube what are you gonna insist on saying that you used the word faggot as in "a stick of cigarrete or flaming faggot and still expected me to be offended? you lying son of a bitch. Im disgusted at your pretentiousness.
@pakk82 Actually, no. I never expected you to be offended. It is only you, the alarmist moron, that is offended for noting. And it is hard to believe that your offended feelings are genuine and honest since you are such a racist prick judging by your previous comments. I think you rage only to distract from your own foolish comments. If you can't bear to have your inner fascist exposed just delete your comment and move on. And, scruffy, don't forget to fuck off! LOL.
@MrSneakmind because the last time the Japanese rioted, they did it in Nanking and Shanghai and murdered millions of Chinese. They needed to settle down.
@MrSneakmind After the kobe earthquake the Yamaguchigumi (the largest Yakuza group), provided disaster relief. According to wikipedia they did a better job of it than the government. Did the Mafia or any street gangs provide any help after hurricane Katrina? Seems that even the criminals in Japan are more cultured and civilized than we are in the US.
@MrSneakmind There as plenty of riot in Japan history. But what a riot would accomplish after a natural disaster? There is nobody to be mad at...
The only country that riot are the bat shit stupid Americans that see a deserted electronic store as a opportunity to elevate their social status through ownership of big screen TV. Why is ownership of junk made in China are so important that it justify a riot? They just want to exist, to be someone. Like the riches. Blame the cause, not the peoples.
@ehook you can riot against your government for not helping you... happens all the time... and also most riots don't actually make sense. It's just random violence.
@MrSneakmind "largest earthquake in their recorded history" i think in some history books it was said that there were earthquakes which measured from 8-9 on the rictor scale. and chile still had some 9 earthquakes. but yea, Japanese are alot more controlled. But the states is a multicultural country, alot of immigrants so no one really gives a shit about their land or others. Where as in Japan, almost everyone is Japanese and they're very patriotic.
@MrSneakmind "best country in the world" what defines which country is the "best"? everyone has a different defiinition for the word "best". what you might like, others might not. Some may say, the richer the country the better, or health care, or multiculturalism, small, large, good government, peaceful, strong. And then there are countries which are full of culture, and all that stuff, what do you mean by "best"?
@roderik1990 ask around? EVERYONE has a different opinion, and I personally live in an area where they hate asians, to the point where if an asian family moves into town, the slash their tires, and beat them at night wearing black masks... i personally love Japan, it's my favorite place. but it's only about opinion which country is "best".
@roderik1990 yea tbh, I asked a bunch of people these past few days, and most of them said that either their home country is the best, or that the country they're living in is. I love my country, I really like Japan, but your being a biggot if you try to rank countries with no statistics
@twominutesremaining google "american nuclear accidents" wile Japan has around 9000 "acording to you" the US has close to 3000 confirmed accidents. Oh and the reactors at fukushima were one of the most secure in the world. I guess a earthquake/tsunami had nothing to do whit it.
Japan may had been a victim of a bomb, but look at japan, it always stand strong and peacefull, while US always do riots an wars, with no understanding of the essence of bushido
i went to tokyo and saw myself how businessmen would sniff on little gilrs' panties openly in the subway... guess that's the essence of bushido for you lol
@twominutesremaining the bow and arrow nearly as old as humanity. to say it is an invention out of europe is ignorant. you are just trying to be spiteful
Think of this as the "Tai Chi" of archery. People practice Kyudo to achieve that relaxing, zen like feeling or state of mind which is more important than hitting the target itself.
i think you are missing the whole point, because in zen philosophy, like in life itself by the way, its not important the end but the process itself, the journey, not the destination
If you fail to achieve your goal, that is evidence that you have failed every step of the way, for the whole is the sum of its parts. If I acheive perfect stance and form, in Archery, and Perfect aim, and perfect release, then I will acheive the perfect shot. Failure to acheive the latter, shows failure every step of the way. Because these men have failed to grasp that, they have failed to grasp anything, they have wasted the only life they'll ever get, they have missed the mark.
@12thHamster i think the philosophy has something to do with hitting the target within yourself instead of whats out there... to rid the desire to hit the target even when it is presented? i dont know
i guess it's kinda like giving your dog food but telling him or her to sit and wait in order to train discipline
After elementary school, my mum enrolled me into a Japanese Kyudo class. I practiced a few which took quite a while to complete. When I got home, I realize I am 50 years old already.
@12thHamster NO, it is mindfullness on the NOW, the MOMENT, the TASK, not the outcome. Just like someone saying, when i get to this point in my life (a destination, or goal, or target), then I'll be happy, whereas it is the journey, the daily doing, the task, the moment to moment life that is more important than the outcome.
@12thHamster Inner peace is found when you can perform the action without regard for the results because it is obsession with results that disrupts both inner peace and the action. If you can focus yourself entirely on correctly using the bow leaving no room for concern about hitting or missing the target then you are at peace and that peace feeds back into your technique making it more likely you'll hit the target.
ok for the idiots claiming this is pointless, and he sucks cause he missed. ITS ABOUT INNER CONSCIOUSNESS, in the time, you clear your mind, and you may find something about yourself, instead of other things, including YOUR TARGET. i could swear most of these uneducated comments derive from Westerners.
@12thHamster - That's the whole point, once the arrow leaves the shooter it's gone, all gone, just the shot, the moment, the release. No arrow, no target, gone. For that split second on release it all falls down. Trying to hit the target however leans away from void mind states towards single pointed mind states. Both are states of meditation.
@12thHamster He missed the target to demonstrate that the point of Kyudo is not simply hitting targets with a bow and arrow. By doing this he demonstrates that Kyudo is just a vessel for him to reach inner peace. The goal he set out to achieve was intellectual and spiritual understanding rather than emotional gratification.
@Mattyfoshoable yeah, true. But still kyudo says that if you can focus and find your true self, you become one with the arrow and can hit with perfect precision
@12thHamster you fail from much of the same 'wrong ways' that I suffered from, this helped me, "you are thinking of the law of the letter instead of the letter of the law" =)
when i play this one online grand prix racing game i focus so much on every aspect of my race, the obviousl and subtile, that it feels a little like this. sometimes when people call me off the computer and i have to go afk, it feels like i just woke up from a dream and find my self a little disoriented.
As a bowyer and a traditional bow hunter (stick and a string) I can say that everything stated in this film is achieved even when shooting rapidly, at multiple targets, with accuracy in mind. To hit targets accurately, every minute detail of the shot has to be second nature.
Look up Byron Fergusson. He's a very relaxed, natural, and ACCURATE archer.
@12thHamster You are having a hard time understanding this, because you are intelectualizing it in a "westernized" way. Why this has to be a pragmatic activity? Why is it has to be productive?
If the most important purpose of this action would be something as trivial as hitting the center of an aimed target we would be missing the whole point of the process, which is aiming the interior of ourselves. What matters here is not the result, but the way to get to that result.
@oyecomovamiritmo Yes I agree, Imagine taking forever to load and aim your bow only to miss and put bystanders at risk. THAT WOULD BRING ME INNER PEACE!!!!....
@oyecomovamiritmo What's the point of the way to get to that result when the result is 0?
Why would anyone aim for something when it gives no plots? Calm inner world is good but you can get it while still producing actual results. The monks have inner peace and at the same time they are able to do a lot of incredible stuff.
Sorry but this type of archery seems meaningless to me, the main point of creating archery was to protect yourself.
@12thHamster yeah I totally see what you mean. I thought the purpose/goal of finding your inner peace when you shoot was to hit the target. I'm not saying that inner peace itself isn't important. That's what I thought meditation was about. There is no physical goal in sitting still and quieting your mind.
@12thHamster Kyudo is not a military art. Most modern Japanese martial arts are developments of the old fighting styles now used for self-reflection and "enlightenment".
@houaly143 You can never master anything in life. Never believe anyone whenever they tell you they're the master of any martial art such as karate. There's always something they have not completely perfected. So mastering kyudo can take a lifetime.
@Shade0591 yes! now that u said that i've finally realized, your correct... thank you, but we could learn how to control it well right, just that we can't fully master it...
@houaly143 Indeed, I've seen few marksman in Kyudo who hit the target every time. You can develop great accuracy with the bow, but it takes time and repetition that many might get tired of after a while. With enough will power though, anyone could gain the skills of famed Kyudo "masters".
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sen85y 2 days ago
looks like he missed the target?
taostoner1 1 week ago
1:35 hes sticking something in his butt! CHEATER
TropicalNeon 3 weeks ago
Empty Mind Hidden Finger
TriggaTap 1 month ago
I wish they had a kyudo club at my school ;D I would really want to join, seems like fun~!
munuu23 1 month ago 3
A very pleasant video about a great practice.
There are three things that are very important within Kyudo: Truth, Goodness and Beauty. Three things that many of the comments on this thread do not contain.
Kudos to you who do understand what Kyudo is all about!
likeacatsspm 1 month ago 2
I'm so interested in Kyudo, but it is too bad that there's no Kyudo club or something like that in my country :-(
kikeikaori 2 months ago
Why is he exposing his nipple? I honestly want to know the reason behind this practice.
cumensu 3 months ago
@cumensu It's just to get the sleeve out of the way as far as I can tell. I'm talking from an archery point of view but I think I'm right about it as I would wear an arm brace to keep my cuffs out of the way of the string and they are wearing epic cuffs. It's also probably been stylized a lot over time to be nipples out. Hope that helps.
DolorousSam 2 months ago
@DolorousSam, thanks for clearing it up for me, I thought it was very strange. Especially when done in slow motion. But I don't understand the sentence before the last.
cumensu 2 months ago
@cumensu I just think that one master said bring it down to below the nip and then his student said to their student and so on until it became an important part. Like bowing other ceremonial things. Hope that made sense.
DolorousSam 2 months ago
@DolorousSam, thanks for your explanation. It sounds funny but you are right a lot of traditions we hold today aren't of any importance but born of formality. :)
cumensu 1 month ago
but he didn't even hit the target?
NachiMeNachiMe 4 months ago
@NachiMeNachiMe did you not listen to what the commentator said? it's not about hitting the target..
zzwhiteboitt 3 months ago
@zzwhiteboitt Which contradicts the opening quote entirely rofl. This documentary is just a piece of shit on a tradition that was originally a piece of shit,
If you do archery idgaf how spiritual or any bullshit like that it gets. Just fucking hit the target if you spend an hour staring at it k?
NachiMeNachiMe 3 months ago
Ohh high and to the right. I'm sorry Master Soshi you've been eliminated from Top Shot. Master Ichi as winner of this week's Elimination Challenge please step forward for your $2000 Bass Pro Shops gift card.
gblan 4 months ago 2
At the time that old man fires, a hundred of mongol arrows pierced his body.
MrSantiago0789 4 months ago
@MrSantiago0789 lol
hanxopx 3 months ago
August Turak talks of the red hot cannonball of zen. Is his karma missing? Or was there a leap in evolution?
bezelbub2010 4 months ago 5
berznichi- Honour my ass! That's why in Eric Lomax book, 'The Railway man', when a former British POW met with his former captor, the Japanese ex- soldier broke down and apologised.
There's no honour in bullying.
DDave43 4 months ago
The Japs werent very respectful, or cultured during the world wars, starving and torturing people in their POW camps!
As for 'no uneccessary movements', what was all that fiddling with his robe about then? Wear comfortable and appropriate clothing for archery!
Oh...and he missed the target. I could do better in my back garden...then chill out with a cigarette! Lol
DDave43 5 months ago
@DDave43
can you please just be quiet ...
DefectedHuman 4 months ago
@DDave43 that`s because of their understanding of honor. if u`ve been captured u have no honor so there is no need to show mercy. think samurais did harrikiri for fun? and it`s not only about hitting the target
berzinichi 4 months ago
@DDave43 @berzinichi More than half of cause of IJA soldiers death during the WWII was due to disease and starvation. and more than 2million Japanese soldiers died during the war. Japan was fighting on the absolute edge.
onigoroshi442 4 months ago
@onigoroshi442 makes sense since they had a monster for a leader
kahetel13 4 months ago
@DDave43 If you listened a bit longer you would have heard that each action serves a specific purpose... ergo... not unnecessary movement.
likeacatsspm 1 month ago
He sucks wtf
Steerway213 5 months ago
I can beat up this old man .....
p4h10oso 5 months ago
did he miss the target...?
iheartwaku 5 months ago
Shit
MrJeylee 5 months ago
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AxzeronTheGiant 5 months ago
@Almost Everyone What does Japanese archery have to do w/ tsunamis, earthquakes and American sports and why is it that no one can watch video and post a comment that's related to the video?
u69413 5 months ago
@u69413 Let me tell you a story of how this all started: Once upon a time, there was a troll... he was so ugly that everyone died. The end.
kirby28645 5 months ago
"I'm afraid", answered me, "that I don't understand anything. Even the most simple seems like the more complicated. It's me who shoots the arrow or the bow that shoots at me? The "something" is spiritual, seem with the eyes of flesh or flesh seem with the eyes of the spirit? It's both or no one? Everything, me, the bow, the arrow, the target are connected and I can't see the way to separate them. And the wish to do it is gone. Because, when I hold the bow and I shoot everything goes so simple."
AxzeronTheGiant 6 months ago
the only thing I dont understand is how you achieve total concentration while trying to hold both arrows in 1 hand. What's the purpose of this act? I do love the idea of Kyudo
colodius 6 months ago
Fake and gay.... go to hell n00b fags.
daletheelf3 6 months ago
@daletheelf3 8=====D
Caisamo 6 months ago
I noticed a lot of people fighting each other in these comments. Maybe it's time for you to practise some kyudo.
satansangellight 6 months ago 44
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Shademastermcc 5 months ago
@satansangellight you spelled "practice" wrong
trinitygueho 5 months ago
This kind of formalizing everything makes Japanese little spontaneous.
ruzickaw 6 months ago
@ruzickaw Actually quite a lot spontaneity is involved,because even if its looking formalized and rigid the archer has to control constantly restlessness without losing intensity. There is a kyudo saying:
The beginner makes ten major errors.
The advanced one hundred smaller ones.
And the expert thousands of tiny ones.
With every new level of training your attention grows and the shooting is more and more improvisation.
MoronicJoker 6 months ago
@MoronicJoker I doubt if the shooting becomes more improvisation. The form becomes so rigid that there is not much room for spontaneity. Maybe only a very tiny one.
ruzickaw 6 months ago
@ruzickaw The point is not to lose spontaneity while learning so many new things. This is the hardest part of kyudo.
satansangellight 6 months ago
the zen master can shoot an arrow beyond its accepted range and hit a target about the size of an apple while the target is moving... he did not miss he hit exactly where he intended to
nikokungreenfuzzey 7 months ago
@nikokungreenfuzzey This is a video I would like to see!
gteune 2 months ago
@gteune unfortunately. I have no video
nikokungreenfuzzey 1 month ago
.. there are some very ignorant people in this world.... quote..' LOL he missed ' !
failing to understand.. its not about hitting the target..
Maybe people in the 'West' can take a lesson from the 'Eastern' mind..
I live in Tokyo and its nice to live in a country where there is NO crime ... can you understand that.. no crime.... I think it makes people in the west seem their minds are out of control... or... " Out of their Minds'....
learn to breath...
lionsteve29 7 months ago
I bet he is glad he spent years practicing that to miss. If he missed on purpose that defeats the point because he wasted energy and time doing so only to fail his objective.
jlawton22 7 months ago
LOL HE MISSED.
searock1988 7 months ago
rofl even I could have hit the target from that close.
BBHANCOCK 8 months ago
he missed
Reav420 8 months ago
that guy missed
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newtubetubetube 7 months ago
@12thHamster its not just japanese archery but all types of archery include the "zen" aspect. all archers use a form of meditation to achief there focus. each archer follows his own ritual of standing, drawing, anchoring and lining up there checkpoints. that should be every archers priority. and only once u keep those things right u can focus on aiming.
so zen meditation will actually help your aiming but u will also need technique and expierience or else your arrows will still miss the mark
heeroyuy11 8 months ago
So many euphemisms for masturbation...
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UM59DwwrYA 9 months ago
At the beginning of any kyudo competition, a master is invited to take one shot as a symbol. The shot is always missed to remind people the key spirit of kyudo.
qxy875 9 months ago
@12thHamster seems simple enough, release the self far enough and being the whole you have options. bet it get tempting to stay. you can also move toward the path by becoming still and watching. it'd be fun but thats not watching from a still place. unless you ar both watching and being the fun and being still. neat eh!?
wizardalvin 9 months ago
Detaching yourself from the fruit of your actions is what makes you happy. That's what zen archery is all about.
RunicAxe 9 months ago
@RunicAxe the journey is its own reward. exactly
Nhordmyr 9 months ago
missed...
hellerase 9 months ago
Japan is a great country staying away from illuminati
god bless japan
amir123786 9 months ago
Ah, sun tsu and the way of life...
AlitaAngel 9 months ago
@12thHamster The point of the exercise is not the target. But the process of firing the bow, as an act of meditation.
clancysdaddy 9 months ago
@12thHamster well.. in battle they didnt really take that much time shooting ^^ but I dont think they can compete with a Longbow :P but Zen meditation and bows dont really go hand in hand :P
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@12thHamster From my perspective, it's one of those things where its not your destination that counts, it's the journey. The point is not to hit the target, its to achieve that moment of extreme concentration. That focused type of energy is only found with practices such as sniping, or practicing Kyudo. In both practices you are aiming to hit a target, but the goal of sniping is to kill, where as the goal of kyudo is spiritual awakening.
LucidWhispers 10 months ago
@12thHamster Achieving inner peace and being productive? Do you hear yourself?
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@12thHamster
sigh... it really went over your head it seems
if the "art of baking" gave you centered thought, improved concentration, and profound clarity in all aspects of life, so long as it was performed with mindfulness and concentration, would it really matter to you, as an individual, if anyone else wanted to eat what you baked?
OneTekk 10 months ago
@12thHamster
sigh... it really went over your head it seems
if the "art of baking" gave you centered thought, improved concentration, and profound clarity in all aspects of life, so long as it was performed with mindfulness and concentration, would it really matter to you, as an individual, if anyone else wanted to eat what you baked?
OneTekk 10 months ago
Think of it more as a predecessor to modern instinct shooting. You don't need to aim because you already know wehre the projectile is going after countless hours of practice and empting the mind of distractions. Kinda like the reason why Jerry Miculek can put 8 shots on the target blindfolded, no he's doesn't study Kyudo, but he is applying the concepts.
WhatUpMyNinja 10 months ago
@12thHamster The arrow missed the target, so as the guy himself. If he want an empty mind, to reach a thoughtless state of mind - to miss the self - he have to meditate. But for that he do not need a bow. It is like cooking with a sword. It is probably a relic of an ancient art of archery, when the empty mind was the tool to hit the target. Using a bow to empty the mind is just upside down.
tyggytog 10 months ago
"Spiritual state of nothingness" is not a meaning "There is nothing, too" even if it is said, "Nothing". It is to remove all sincerely own evil thoughts, and to unite the spirits.
123w45678 10 months ago
lol laaaaame copied from Europe like everything else they do from cars to watches.
twominutesremaining 10 months ago
@twominutesremaining You must be joking, go back to school before you try to say anything about my people. Go figure out who invented the printing process, compass.
lhtony 10 months ago
@lhtony
ok, i took at look at how ur people copied safe nuclear powerplants from the americans i laughed my ass off :)
twominutesremaining 10 months ago
@twominutesremaining You think the American plants are any safer than the ones on the Japanese coast? It's the same design from the same companies. Three mile island. Look it up. You don't know what you are talking about.
liveforit11 10 months ago
@liveforit11
let's compare:
US nuclear meltdowns in the last 2 decades: zero, nothing, nada, bagle, njet
Japs nuclear meltdowns in the last 2 decades: over 9000
you loose so hard... better go back to your copied bows and arrows at least they don't have nuclear meltdowns :P
twominutesremaining 10 months ago
@twominutesremaining let's compare:
The lakers win/lose a game, we have a riot
Japan has the largest earthquake in their recorded history
Not a single riot.
Yeah man we're so superior to the Japanese...
MrSneakmind 10 months ago 96
@MrSneakmind
who dropped the nuke on who again? :D
twominutesremaining 10 months ago
@twominutesremaining How does that prove superiority? Anyway, your argument is stupid and invalid. You're taking credit for what your ancestors did decades ago. You literally took no part at all in any of this nation's great achievements... you were just born on the land mass they were done on.
If you're a failure, you're a failure.. You're countries success doesn't really change that. And you are indeed a failure at putting together an argument. And trolling.
MrSneakmind 10 months ago
@MrSneakmind
so are you. the only difference between us is that you probably make jack shit and i did an average of 1.3 mio per year of the last 6 years. enjoy being poor and technologicaly retarded faggot
twominutesremaining 10 months ago
@twominutesremaining Trololololololoooo
MrSneakmind 10 months ago
@MrSneakmind remind that japan still got their emperor. an emperor in combination with lived tradtions... there actually is no room for a riot.
but imagine what could happen with greed, speaking of atomic plants, if this would happened to more regions in japan or all over the world (building the biggest in the near future in india..) and eradicating all local culture? horrible vision.
peace
Nhordmyr 9 months ago
@MrSneakmind pretty universally accepted that rioting against melting down nuclear reactors doesnt do much-
kakabukkake0 9 months ago
@kakabukkake0 Uh yeah if you didn't notice, rioting because the lakers win a game doesn't make sense either. Riots aren't supposed to make sense. they're riots You have them because you're angry about something. The japanese could have rioted against their government because of their failure to distribute supplies given to them by the red cross, but they didn't. They waited patiently, speeding up the process.
I'm not trying to be a weaboo I'm just saying that no one race is superior over another
MrSneakmind 9 months ago
@MrSneakmind Lakers riots are upsurged mostly by Mexicans and very few Blacks and poor Whites. I know this sounds like bigotry but get real. Majority society would tolerate no such thing. Lack of interest in civilization is the problem. not for all Americans, but the unnecessary, shameless, brute ones.
pakk82 8 months ago
@pakk82 did you go to high school?
iprimateman 8 months ago
@pakk82 "Lakers riots are upsurged mostly by Mexicans and very few Blacks and poor Whites. "
I am sure the Mexican and black were poor as well. So cut the racist crap and just say that poor are more likely to be rioting since they have so little to lose. That would be honest, not have made you look like the total bigot fag that you are. in the end, they are all American. And American are retards. Including the rich that fail to understand that sharing the wealth maintain social peace. Fuck off!
newtubetubetube 7 months ago
@newtubetubetube what? fag? isnt that a homophobic word? OH im so offended? racist comment makes you butt-hurt but calling homo faggots dont bother you? you selective cocksucker cunt.
pakk82 7 months ago
@pakk82 Fag is, in no way, related to homosexuality. Do your research... only misguided prick use fag in a homophobic way. On the other hand cocksucker is high homophobic and revolting. Fuck you very much.
newtubetubetube 7 months ago
@newtubetubetube what are you gonna insist on saying that you used the word faggot as in "a stick of cigarrete or flaming faggot and still expected me to be offended? you lying son of a bitch. Im disgusted at your pretentiousness.
pakk82 7 months ago
@pakk82 Actually, no. I never expected you to be offended. It is only you, the alarmist moron, that is offended for noting. And it is hard to believe that your offended feelings are genuine and honest since you are such a racist prick judging by your previous comments. I think you rage only to distract from your own foolish comments. If you can't bear to have your inner fascist exposed just delete your comment and move on. And, scruffy, don't forget to fuck off! LOL.
newtubetubetube 7 months ago
@newtubetubetube fair enough. alright
pakk82 7 months ago
@MrSneakmind because the last time the Japanese rioted, they did it in Nanking and Shanghai and murdered millions of Chinese. They needed to settle down.
ponyboy314 7 months ago
@MrSneakmind After the kobe earthquake the Yamaguchigumi (the largest Yakuza group), provided disaster relief. According to wikipedia they did a better job of it than the government. Did the Mafia or any street gangs provide any help after hurricane Katrina? Seems that even the criminals in Japan are more cultured and civilized than we are in the US.
purplemutantas 7 months ago
@MrSneakmind There as plenty of riot in Japan history. But what a riot would accomplish after a natural disaster? There is nobody to be mad at...
The only country that riot are the bat shit stupid Americans that see a deserted electronic store as a opportunity to elevate their social status through ownership of big screen TV. Why is ownership of junk made in China are so important that it justify a riot? They just want to exist, to be someone. Like the riches. Blame the cause, not the peoples.
newtubetubetube 7 months ago
@MrSneakmind Who would put up riots against Mother Nature? xD
ehook 6 months ago
@ehook you can riot against your government for not helping you... happens all the time... and also most riots don't actually make sense. It's just random violence.
MrSneakmind 6 months ago
@MrSneakmind That is so cool!
PatriziaVonDousen 6 months ago
@MrSneakmind They not only lost a game,they got swept by the Mavericks xD
lilballer91am 6 months ago
@MrSneakmind "largest earthquake in their recorded history" i think in some history books it was said that there were earthquakes which measured from 8-9 on the rictor scale. and chile still had some 9 earthquakes. but yea, Japanese are alot more controlled. But the states is a multicultural country, alot of immigrants so no one really gives a shit about their land or others. Where as in Japan, almost everyone is Japanese and they're very patriotic.
TasteForDisaster 6 months ago
@TasteForDisaster I'm just saying... I live in the best country in the world but at the same time my country is equal to everyone else's....
MrSneakmind 6 months ago
@MrSneakmind "best country in the world" what defines which country is the "best"? everyone has a different defiinition for the word "best". what you might like, others might not. Some may say, the richer the country the better, or health care, or multiculturalism, small, large, good government, peaceful, strong. And then there are countries which are full of culture, and all that stuff, what do you mean by "best"?
TasteForDisaster 6 months ago
@TasteForDisaster what? I mean i love my country but I'm not going to be a dick about it. That's what I was trying to say.
MrSneakmind 6 months ago
@TasteForDisaster Simple, ask around: You will find that their country is the best.
roderik1990 5 months ago
@roderik1990 ask around? EVERYONE has a different opinion, and I personally live in an area where they hate asians, to the point where if an asian family moves into town, the slash their tires, and beat them at night wearing black masks... i personally love Japan, it's my favorite place. but it's only about opinion which country is "best".
TasteForDisaster 5 months ago
@TasteForDisaster hmm. perhaps "their" was a bit ambiguous. ah well...
I tried to imply: ask around, you will often find that the country of the respondent is best.
roderik1990 5 months ago
@roderik1990 yea tbh, I asked a bunch of people these past few days, and most of them said that either their home country is the best, or that the country they're living in is. I love my country, I really like Japan, but your being a biggot if you try to rank countries with no statistics
TasteForDisaster 5 months ago
@MrSneakmind
I love people like you and satansangellight, just good old fashioned logic awesomeness.
Shademastermcc 5 months ago
@MrSneakmind Don't forget the tsunami, or the nuclear reactor meltdown, or the second tsunami, and all the aftershocks.
succundo 5 months ago
@MrSneakmind If I ever meet you in person I will buy you a beer.
mindbread 4 months ago
@twominutesremaining
right....
tyskbulle 10 months ago
@twominutesremaining google "american nuclear accidents" wile Japan has around 9000 "acording to you" the US has close to 3000 confirmed accidents. Oh and the reactors at fukushima were one of the most secure in the world. I guess a earthquake/tsunami had nothing to do whit it.
tyskbulle 10 months ago
@tyskbulle WOULDN'T ATTACKING PEARL HARBOR COUNT AS A NUCLEAR ACCIDENT ON JAPANS PART?
dougerber 9 months ago
@twominutesremaining
Japan may had been a victim of a bomb, but look at japan, it always stand strong and peacefull, while US always do riots an wars, with no understanding of the essence of bushido
jin54363 6 months ago
@jin54363
i went to tokyo and saw myself how businessmen would sniff on little gilrs' panties openly in the subway... guess that's the essence of bushido for you lol
twominutesremaining 6 months ago
@twominutesremaining
another lame idiot...
not gonna waste my time with you.
jin54363 6 months ago
@jin54363
you already did with your reply. lol you lost faggot
twominutesremaining 5 months ago
@twominutesremaining From looking at your channel comments, I have this to say about you.
Successful Troll is Successful!
gbatemper123 5 months ago
@twominutesremaining the bow and arrow nearly as old as humanity. to say it is an invention out of europe is ignorant. you are just trying to be spiteful
liveforit11 10 months ago
@twominutesremaining you my freind are retarded
DORC101 5 months ago
Think of this as the "Tai Chi" of archery. People practice Kyudo to achieve that relaxing, zen like feeling or state of mind which is more important than hitting the target itself.
shinobi155 11 months ago
@12thHamster
well i guess that is Zen itself. It is not the destination that matters, but the road that takes you there. ;)
dyadyana89 11 months ago
i think you are missing the whole point, because in zen philosophy, like in life itself by the way, its not important the end but the process itself, the journey, not the destination
sorry for my bad english
frankypuerta 11 months ago
If you fail to achieve your goal, that is evidence that you have failed every step of the way, for the whole is the sum of its parts. If I acheive perfect stance and form, in Archery, and Perfect aim, and perfect release, then I will acheive the perfect shot. Failure to acheive the latter, shows failure every step of the way. Because these men have failed to grasp that, they have failed to grasp anything, they have wasted the only life they'll ever get, they have missed the mark.
TheCHURCHinDROUIN 11 months ago
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TheCHURCHinDROUIN 11 months ago
@12thHamster i think the philosophy has something to do with hitting the target within yourself instead of whats out there... to rid the desire to hit the target even when it is presented? i dont know
i guess it's kinda like giving your dog food but telling him or her to sit and wait in order to train discipline
AznofHK 11 months ago
So they are learn archery for what reason? Isn't the point of archery to hit what you're aiming for?
1412Bunny 11 months ago
After elementary school, my mum enrolled me into a Japanese Kyudo class. I practiced a few which took quite a while to complete. When I got home, I realize I am 50 years old already.
HugeDeek 11 months ago
It's about the journey, not the destination...Wonderful
TheRagManSmiles 11 months ago
@TheRagManSmiles Thats crazy, i saw a Jeep commercial saying the same thing!, they must be practicing zen over at the jeep headquarters
Eso1 11 months ago
@12thHamster NO, it is mindfullness on the NOW, the MOMENT, the TASK, not the outcome. Just like someone saying, when i get to this point in my life (a destination, or goal, or target), then I'll be happy, whereas it is the journey, the daily doing, the task, the moment to moment life that is more important than the outcome.
cliffcox66 11 months ago
Confucius say:
Archer who not care about target have only vegetables for dinner.
blademaker22 11 months ago
Im sure his enemies take great comfort in the fact that he doesn't care about hitting the target.
blademaker22 11 months ago
@blademaker22 I'm fairly sure this old man is not planning on shooting at anyone any time soon...at least not with a bow and arrow.
donoraen 11 months ago
@12thHamster This one of those "focus on the process, not the result" things.
NoisemakerArrow 11 months ago
@12thHamster Inner peace is found when you can perform the action without regard for the results because it is obsession with results that disrupts both inner peace and the action. If you can focus yourself entirely on correctly using the bow leaving no room for concern about hitting or missing the target then you are at peace and that peace feeds back into your technique making it more likely you'll hit the target.
ketsan 11 months ago
日本的な観点から言えばどんな道にも成功や失敗ってない気がする
だからその道を行く人はずっと修行者だし
その道の先の終着点(結果)がどうこうよりも
どうやってその道を歩んで表現しているのかが重要なんじゃないのかな
最近は国際化に伴って日本社会も結果(勝ち負け)ばかりが重要視されてるけどね
000mana000 11 months ago
ok for the idiots claiming this is pointless, and he sucks cause he missed. ITS ABOUT INNER CONSCIOUSNESS, in the time, you clear your mind, and you may find something about yourself, instead of other things, including YOUR TARGET. i could swear most of these uneducated comments derive from Westerners.
jameslee246 11 months ago
@12thHamster - That's the whole point, once the arrow leaves the shooter it's gone, all gone, just the shot, the moment, the release. No arrow, no target, gone. For that split second on release it all falls down. Trying to hit the target however leans away from void mind states towards single pointed mind states. Both are states of meditation.
Ragleif 1 year ago
@12thHamster He missed the target to demonstrate that the point of Kyudo is not simply hitting targets with a bow and arrow. By doing this he demonstrates that Kyudo is just a vessel for him to reach inner peace. The goal he set out to achieve was intellectual and spiritual understanding rather than emotional gratification.
Mattyfoshoable 1 year ago 30
@Mattyfoshoable
I think the guy who invented this was rather smart, he had to justify why he missed the target :)
Atilla3 8 months ago
@Mattyfoshoable i love you
kidshortman 8 months ago
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tryhardmyass 8 months ago
@Mattyfoshoable yeah, true. But still kyudo says that if you can focus and find your true self, you become one with the arrow and can hit with perfect precision
tryhardmyass 8 months ago
@Mattyfoshoable ill just remember this everytime i miss. hehe but no this is a beautiful form of archery.
niignastii 7 months ago
was he supposed to miss
TheKirky12 1 year ago
@12thHamster you fail from much of the same 'wrong ways' that I suffered from, this helped me, "you are thinking of the law of the letter instead of the letter of the law" =)
de4th1snt3nough 1 year ago
You should do a video on right or left side shooting ????
erihama 1 year ago
when i play this one online grand prix racing game i focus so much on every aspect of my race, the obviousl and subtile, that it feels a little like this. sometimes when people call me off the computer and i have to go afk, it feels like i just woke up from a dream and find my self a little disoriented.
Magician12345 1 year ago
As a bowyer and a traditional bow hunter (stick and a string) I can say that everything stated in this film is achieved even when shooting rapidly, at multiple targets, with accuracy in mind. To hit targets accurately, every minute detail of the shot has to be second nature.
Look up Byron Fergusson. He's a very relaxed, natural, and ACCURATE archer.
coyotemutt 1 year ago
777 likes 66 dislikes ... I did not even aim at this constellations ...
bernhardfranz 1 year ago
@12thHamster Kinda like making those huge beautiful cakes that can't be eaten, or like nascar.
satanlovesyoululul 1 year ago
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ANNOMMX 1 year ago
@12thHamster You are having a hard time understanding this, because you are intelectualizing it in a "westernized" way. Why this has to be a pragmatic activity? Why is it has to be productive?
If the most important purpose of this action would be something as trivial as hitting the center of an aimed target we would be missing the whole point of the process, which is aiming the interior of ourselves. What matters here is not the result, but the way to get to that result.
oyecomovamiritmo 1 year ago 2
@oyecomovamiritmo Yes I agree, Imagine taking forever to load and aim your bow only to miss and put bystanders at risk. THAT WOULD BRING ME INNER PEACE!!!!....
superjezz 1 year ago
@oyecomovamiritmo What's the point of the way to get to that result when the result is 0?
Why would anyone aim for something when it gives no plots? Calm inner world is good but you can get it while still producing actual results. The monks have inner peace and at the same time they are able to do a lot of incredible stuff.
Sorry but this type of archery seems meaningless to me, the main point of creating archery was to protect yourself.
Anubis3200 1 year ago
@oyecomovamiritmo
Which he fails to achieve. Had he focussed better, he could have shot like Byron Fergusson.
coyotemutt 1 year ago
Anyone want to learn Japanese and chinese with me?
lilylessons 1 year ago
well , .. at least try NOT to shoot anyone with the arrows, no matter how zen-like the state of mind is.
papaburger 1 year ago
xaxaxaxa what a bull, he empty his mind and he missed, what about if wouldnt empty his mind
markos824 1 year ago
@12thHamster yeah I totally see what you mean. I thought the purpose/goal of finding your inner peace when you shoot was to hit the target. I'm not saying that inner peace itself isn't important. That's what I thought meditation was about. There is no physical goal in sitting still and quieting your mind.
drewkroeker 1 year ago
@12thHamster Kyudo is not a military art. Most modern Japanese martial arts are developments of the old fighting styles now used for self-reflection and "enlightenment".
Shade0591 1 year ago
コメント読んでるとmissとか言ってる外人さん多くてびっくり
弓道に限らず武道はそんなものさしで測るものじゃない
「マスターする」こともない
kodama113 1 year ago 2
@kodama113
彼らには理解出来ないだろうね。
だから自分は武道のグローバル化には反対。
こういうものは閉鎖的でいい。
BuffonSarutobi 1 year ago
how long does it usually take someone to fully or well at mastering Kyudo ?
houaly143 1 year ago
@houaly143 You can never master anything in life. Never believe anyone whenever they tell you they're the master of any martial art such as karate. There's always something they have not completely perfected. So mastering kyudo can take a lifetime.
Shade0591 1 year ago
@Shade0591 yes! now that u said that i've finally realized, your correct... thank you, but we could learn how to control it well right, just that we can't fully master it...
houaly143 1 year ago
@houaly143 Indeed, I've seen few marksman in Kyudo who hit the target every time. You can develop great accuracy with the bow, but it takes time and repetition that many might get tired of after a while. With enough will power though, anyone could gain the skills of famed Kyudo "masters".
Shade0591 1 year ago
@Shade0591 thank you very much for the information... i appreciated..!
houaly143 1 year ago
This is only SOMETHING about kyudo.
If you want to find out more about kyudo, READ. There are a lot written on the subject, search for it!
You suddenly find yourselves "not very bright", still stupidly revealing pearls from the depth of your minds... Or assholes.
Duh!...
CorneliuList 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha all that concentration and acting and.......... he missed hahahahahahahahahahaha
apanterado 1 year ago
@apanterado
When the arrow is leaves the bow
It may not hit
But it can not miss.
Burning0Lilac 1 year ago