Zotloterer Gravitational Vortex Power Plant

[TheSpikeystuff]

This is a great video

[DJMC5ive]

-looking below- damn. some angry people here. -moves along-

[MrAwsome514]

@DJMC5ive Na... it was just some little punk trying to makje himself feel superior to some one. Ofcourse he failed miserably.

[37zeus37]

350MW

[tech5353]

has anyone in these comments thought to add this to existing hydroelectric setups? It would make them more efficient probably.



[MrAwsome514]

@myspacedrummer Free in the sense that you do not have to pay for it. Energy is still spent to fill it with water even if that energy is generated through natural processes. Like the rain water that filled the lake or stream.

[KanineKruizer]

The unit looks like it isn't very sturdy. How much watts or joules does it harness?

[superFLOful]

So geht das!

[BalconyBro]

this dude copied my dad

[MrJhomzrobs]

oh i thought its a nuclear power plant... gosh

[HybridWaterMan2]

NIce. How efficient is this design? Obviously there is going to be some torque in that size vortex, but doesn't look like a lot of speed. Do you know results from this?

[AlternativePowerMan]

I'd like to see some generator output driving some load. How much power does this make?

[THATW3IRDKID]

So it is using gravity to create a vortex so the vortex will spin a turbine? brilliant.

even more brilliant if they can loop the water and make it free energy.

[Odziz]

@THATW3IRDKID

It uses the flow of the water source and gravity. If you cascade these down a hill side that's a lot of hydro power.

Yes it is free energy, after the initial build.

Please don't confuse free energy with perpetual motion.

[MrAwsome514]

@Odziz It is not free energy. It is simply a different way to do hydroelectric power. It is drawing energy off of the motion of the water. If it runs out of water it will stop and it does not put out enough energy to move the water back up to the top faster then if falls through. So the only way to keep it running is to have it be fed by a lake or stream.

[Odziz]

@MrAwsome514

Obviously your definition of free energy is different from mine.

Please don't confuse free energy with perpetual motion.

[MrAwsome514]

@Odziz Unfortunately I am not the one who decided to mix up the words free energy with perpetual motion. 90% of the perpetual motion believers did that. A word means what the majority of people believe it to mean reguadless of what the dictionary has to say about it. Why not just call it a hydroelectric generator?

[ProofScientific]

@Odziz hmm, so what is your definition of free energy then?

[Indygoguy]

@MrAwsome514 yes, it is a different way to do hydroelectric power. There is no such thing as perpetual motion and you know this because you realize that "looping" this system would not work. It seems you want to dismiss this machine because it does not realize your impossible fantasy. Grow up, nothing is free in this world. You only build a hydroelectric power plant where there is water traveling down hill. It costs money to build and maintain but the power source costs nothing.

[MrAwsome514]

@Indygoguy Idiot... Don't jump into some one else's coversation with out knowing what the context of that conversation is. I do not believe overunity is possible nor do I believe perpetual motion is. Hell I often go on to the channels of those who claim to have produced such machines to expose them for the con artists they are... What I was trying to point out to the man is that there are still maintenance costs on this thing which can be quite expensive.

[MrAwsome514]

@Indygoguy In short... grow the fuck up and don't jump in to troll when you have not seen the entire conversation. It will only lead to you putting your foot in your mouth.

[Indygoguy]

@MrAwsome514 why don't YOU grow the fuck up and stop thinking your posts are so brilliant that people are going to go back and read every single obnoxiously boring one you posted. The post I commented on was of you saying something incredibly juvenile and your response just confirms my assessment of you.

[rstevewarmorycom]

@THATW3IRDKID Ain't any such thing, and no, the water HAS to fall, that's where

the energy comes from. If you lift it back up then you would have to do the same

work it produced in falling, and more because of friction. The only free lunch is the

sun, or fusion, if we ever make it work. There is NO "free energy" that comes from

"nowhere".

[Xaxton2]

Is it perpetual energy?

[Odziz]

@Xaxton2

It is free energy, after the initial build.

Please don't confuse free energy with perpetual motion.

[Jesus45U]

@Odziz

No such thing as free energy.

A project like this needs initial funds to build it, resources to build it, then work to keep it going and eventually, more money and resources to repair it when it eventually breaks down, thus it is not free.

That said, there is expensive energy, and inexpensive energy - And this does look like the inexpensive variant. :)

[sniprzkitty]

sir issac newton told us why

an apple falls down from the sky

and from this fact its very plain

all other objects do the same

a brick, a bar, a bolt, a cup

invariably fall down not up

applying this regarding water

it falls down like it ought ta...

[lostinseganet]

"Claps" :)

[MartinusThomsen]

check

martinus . nu

oletherkelsen . dk

mathildenhoehe . org

[rol6711]

does it the propeller bend when increase in a surge of water?

[rayofminneapolis]

nice!

[ikonxp]

i almost fell into one of these as a kid =\

[Hornj21]

Nice he is trying to reinvent the kaplan and francis turbines. Funny I do not see any water to wire efficiencies numbers?

[lexichronicle]

@Hornj21 "Funny I do not see any water to wire efficiencies numbers?" i think we have a winning question here

[Flyborg]

Sweet.

Now build 50 more! Go!

[macrumpton]

I wonder if this tech could be used to work with rising hot air?

[Lindenlc]

Yes it can, Google: Solar Tower

cheers

[ericsinvention]

Perhaps it is no surprise that this model resembles one of the most powerful forces in the universe...a black hole.

Black holes don't just suck things directly toward it in all directions, Things spiral into it pretty much as you see here.

I wonder what the flow rate is compared to your typical hydro generator.

[UFOMAN618]

are you aware that black holes also emit radiation from their poles, and are composed of pure light? Even stranger what if we are in a black hole that is rotating and dragging its interior, giving rise to spiral and helical characteristics to its interior (spin).

[Nabo00o]

Its weird and mindboggeling ;)

But its very interesting and here is why:

A normal hydroelectric power station uses only the fall and hight of the water to generate power, or in a few occasions also the speed of water (as in a river).

A whirlpool however is not powered directly by the fall or height of the water, but actually by the spin of the earth.

This can be proven by letting water flow trough a pipe on the two different hemispheres, as it will reverse its direction.

[lilbenji25]

actually, the power does come from the gravitational potential energy of the falling water. the spin is determined by local factors and the factor of which hemisphere the vortex is being created in has very little effect. however, the law of averages dictates that yes. in two perfect experiments on differing hemisphers would result in opposite spin.

[Nabo00o]

Okey then. But lets just theoretically say that the earth suddenly stopped its spinning, would it still continue to act like a whirlpool, or would it turn into a weird form of straight down-flowing water stream?

[lilbenji25]

fraid not. it would still continue to spin as long as there was a gravitational force. it would just be the local stimulants that would dictate the spin eg, imperfections in the container, random heat caused discriminations etc. in fluid dynamics when enough force is applied to a fluid the reaction is for it to conserve the energy in a vortex as it has no ready way of transforming that energy. this is seen everywhere from wing tip turbulance to tornados to galaxy's

[spartancroft]

Thats entirely correct. The Coriolis effect which is hemisphere-dependant only affects water bodies of significant mass, such as oceans. Water flowing through a pipe is far more likely to be directed according to how clean the pipe is!

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@Nabo00o wow, if that's true, it's amazing, i never knew that, i thought that gravity made everything appear to stand still and that it can't effect motion, is there a video i should watch on this?

[Nabo00o]

@xxxslayerxxx666

Its a long time since I wrote that and things have changed for me.

I guess you would have liked to read some books about Schauberger, you can easily get them as torrents....

One other thing, a friend one time asked me where the energy to drive our hydroelectric powerstations comes from. It was a riddle....

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@Nabo00o a riddle with no answer? lol.

[Nabo00o]

@xxxslayerxxx666

Well yes I answered, but where do you think it comes from?

How directly is the sun actually lifting the water to the top of our hills?

[xxxslayerxxx666]

@Nabo00o well i don't know the physiology of the transition from liquid to gas, but that's all i know, so i can't know "directly" how the sun lifts the water, but i'm sure it has something to do with gas being lighter than water and air.

[Nabo00o]

@xxxslayerxxx666

Yes, the sun heats the water so that it evaporates and makes it lighter.

What is interesting is that the water can reach a very large height before it again turns into liquid, and then it will also release the same heat that it got from the sun.

The force of gravity is what both makes it fly up and fall down, but the heat from our sun excites that water into a phase change, completely altering the effect of gravity.

[sn1pe352]

Viktor Schauberger isn't widely known for good reason , they don't want to world to know the truth!

That guy became my hero when I learned me and him were very alike , in ways that we looked to nature for our theories on how our universe micro to macro works , along with other things..he also answers many questions that I had on why the ancients "worshiped" certain animals and their structures

thanks for the post

[solidarityONE]

It's really good to see useful application of old technique!

Zotloeterer should reference Viktor Schauberger (1885-1958, Austria ;-), because he was a pioneer in water/vortex technique.

[Odziz]

Yes its about time Viktor Schauberger was recognised for the genius he was. Like Thomas Townsend Brown, Nikola Tesla et al.

[robfromorlando]

Can you get higher velocities if the blades were smaller in size and held deeper into the vortex's portion that spins faster and narrower?

[MyiahFord]

WOW, THAT IS AMAZING

[youarelackluster]

could we get this in english? the zotloterer website is only in the german language..

[Odziz]

If your using Firefox, use the foxlingo extension to translate the webpage

[GREENPOWERSCIENCE]

GREAT IDEA. SIMPLE AND BRILLIANT!

[Odziz]

to see a tv report on this technology look at watch?v=3J87lzqMEnI&feature=re­lated on YouTube

[tribluered]

Awesome!