Keiko died of pneumonia and malnutrition on Taknes Bay, Norway a bay are with a small population with people. It's apparent he tried his attempt at hunting but without a pod, capturing prey (such as grouped fish, seals and penguins) became a hassle. It is also apparent that in his malnutioned state he became succeptable to illnesses which is how he contracted pneumonia (without food consumption he lost blubber to block out the cold) as far as beaching, he was sick that is what they do.
@DomSubmissiveKitty (to add) it also became apparent that he viewed the people on the shore of the bay as possible food bearers (since his park caregivers would bring him food everyday) and hung around, he even may have breached his self in a attempt to do a trick for food rewards, since he knew that at the park he got treats when he performed the tricks.
I was pleasantly surprised by the DVD. I was expecting a tirade of propaganda and lies. In fact, it was quite refreshing. They even said, "Though this and this happened, but this and this didn't happen, it's up to you to decide whether it failed or not". At least, that's what I got from it.
Folks who are incapable of maintaining decorum during discussions about the film Keiko The Untold Story or about Life and Legend of Keiko the orca star of Free Willy will be banned from making any further comments on this site no matter what their position may be on this very controversial subject. We highly recommend that you watch the whole film now available on Amazon and at the film's website and begin your discussions from that platform.
Shut the hell up. You call FreedomForOrcas full of herself while you work at a freaking coffee shop and you think you know more than biologists who have been studying wild and captive cetaceans for their whole lives. You make up BS just to get SeaWorld a good image so you can be a trainer and be part of orcas' only predator. 25 years isn't a long time? WELL THAT'S HOW LONG ORCAS LIVE IN CAPTIVITY!!!! Do your damn research before you contradict yourself like that.
I love it how anti-caps compare Keiko's "long-lived life" to captive orcas. UH HELLO...Keiko was wild. Not captive. Comparing him to captive males is completely irrelevant. Keiko lived 18 years in captivity. And 5 out in the wild. He did not break any record for captive orcas..OR WILD.
Ignore RingneckDoveFan, the so-called "expert" who somehow knows more than scientists, marine biologists and people who studied and worked hard to set Keiko free. If it were up to her, every single marine mammal would live in tanks performing for her sick amusement, never to see the ocean again.
I am so happy that Keiko was lucky enough to travel free. He CHOSE freedom. He could've turned around or stayed where he was, but he CHOSE to swim thousands of miles to Norway. Haters gonna hate.
His caretakers left him. He got lost. They even tell you that in the documentary!!! Keiko kept swimming and swimming and swimming in a straight line. Eventually, he ended up in Norway. Keiko had no freakin' idea where he was going. Then, Colin Baird went out in a boat to spy on him, but it was too late. Keiko found him. Keiko NEVER left the boat after that. It was then that Keiko spent the rest of his life with humans. He did NOT chose to be free. At all.
Btw, I know much more about captive orcas than all those "experts" will ever know. Fact.
Oh, and are you calling me a lier? Because apparently, Kohana is NOT the name of the older female at LP. Her name is Kahana according to the "experts."
Oh yeah, you should unblock me on facebook too so you can read the comments, the people on K:TUS facebook love me. Teresa is even advertising my dang page!!! Look for yourself!
@RingneckDoveFan - Um yeah, I don't care Carly. Like, I actually do not care about you or anything you say or do. Why do you keep vying for my attention? I'm not interested.
@RingneckDoveFan - I actually wasnt going to reply on that Keiko wall post until I saw that you used wikipedia as a source for your comment. Nobody uses wiki, in fact when you go to.university/college, you will be PENALISED for using it as a source. Why? Because its so UNRELIABLE. Lol thats pretty much the only thing I said.
@RingneckDoveFan - lol that is a joke. I'm sorry, but scientists who have actually STUDIED dolphins and know what they are talking about are far more reliable than wikipedia, which can be edited by any random person on the internet. End discussion.
@RingneckDoveFan Wiki is written by God knows who! anyone and everyone. Im in university, studying wildlife conservation and like FreedomForOrcas stated if I dared to use Wiki automatic FAIL for potentially false information. Anti-caps, like myself...like FreedomForOrcas and like PacificOrcas have and continuously study and research captivity and the cetaceans in it. Why? because we actually care
Interv. withExpert Cast Member HSUS Marine Scientist Naomi Rose: " The large majority of folks who are negatively charaterizing what happened to Keiko are wrong. They weren't there...Whether he would have lived longer had he stayed in captivity is debateable. No one knows what would have happened. SeaWorldhas had 22 orcas die in the last 24yrs. about one a year has been dying on them, most in their pre-teens&teens,most of pneumonia or unknown causes. Only one was older than Keiko
@theresa Wrong. Keiko only lived 22.5 years after his capture. He didn't break any record.
Rose makes no sense. She is basically saying, since I wasn't with Keiko, I have no idea what went on.. LOL.. ok then, let me make this fair, Rose has never been behind-the-scenes or worked for a zoological facility. She has NO idea how cetacean captivity works.
"SeaWorldhas had 22 orcas die in the last 24yrs." haha...and how many WILD residents died in the past 24 years? WAY more than 22.
"Keiko died in December 2003, at half his life expectancy. He never integrated into wild killer whale pods. The researchers concluded: "...Keiko’s release to the wild was not successful, since though physically unrestricted and free to leave, he kept returning to his caretakers for food and company."
"Keiko was not part of a social unit, was not young, and had been in captivity most of his life. Therefore, the researchers in retrospect found Keiko "...a poor candidate for release."
The people talking towards the end don't seem to understand how ingnorant, naive, and disgusting the things they said are. Keiko swimming in a straight line all alone was not him thriving. It was him looking for sustenance and attention. Keiko swimming with a few wild orcas is not incredible. Those wild orcas wanted nothing to do with him. Once Keiko had enough, he swam back to that boat like a scared kid on the first day of school. THAT is the real Untold Story.
@RingneckDoveFan i cant believe SOME people are calling you a liar. I read about the information you have been posting long before reading your posts. It is true Keiko's release was a failure.
Thank you... at least some people are aware of it. I just watched this "documentary" last night and it was awful how much LIES Naomi Rose spread. Not to mention how BIASED Tobba and Colin Baird was (Keiko's caretakers). And don't get me started on Paul Spong and Mark Berman. I'm almost certain the interviewers gave them a fat blunt right before the interview.
Clearly, Keiko never successfully adapted to what was once his home. This happens also with wild chimpanzees taken away at a young age from their families, kept by humans for most of their lives and then when they are finally released into sanctuary, they have problems integrating with other chimps because they never learned the skills necessary to being a chimp.
Too many years in captivity for Keiko posed the same sort of problems. What a tragedy.
eiko: The Untold Story the film is going on a film festival tour for the next few months in search of national and international distribution. Once national international distribution has been determined, the film will then be available to the public in many different forms. you can stay tuned here and on the film's website
@richorcaonyt (From Cont. 2) And if you read the reports available to the public, you would not be saying that Keiko was begging for human care. Yes he sought human contact in the end, but he was by no means begging.
@richorcaonyt (From cont.) She survived for 25 years in a sea pen, full of natural seawater, no walls, none of that normal captivity junk (although she was isolated). Then she was moved into an artificial environment, and she died six months later.
Port of Nagoya Public Aquarium had another orca at one point - Ku - but she died in 2008 from heart failure. She also previously lived in a sea pen, etc etc. (Cont. 2)
Nami was living in a natural sea pen. And then Nami was moved via 23-hour-long-barge-ride into artificial seawater, experienced solid walls for the first time, and was expected to do more things and live with dolphins not of her species. She was expected to use gates. She was expected to adjust with no issues whatsoever. She became ill reportedly twice during those six months. The second time was in December - ulcerative colitis. (Cont.)
@IAmADalek Nami was in a natural cove with some artificial additions like nets and docks. There's pictures and videos in case you haven't seen them. There's videos of people who made videos of Nami while she was still in Taiji, and expressing their fear at the time their video was posted that they were afraid that Nami would die at Port of Nagoya due to being surrounded by concrete walls, having no natural seawater, etc.
@richorcaonyt Better than swimming in a circle for days on end without seeing another orca. He chose to interact with his own kind. He chose to eat live fish. He chose to seek out human contact when he wanted it. He disappeared in 2002 from July to September, and it was during that time that he traveled to Norway all on his own. He could have stayed in Iceland and stayed with humans, but he chose to travel.
The whole plan was to allow Keiko to live, and die, on his own terms. In the wild.
@richorcaonyt Actually, Keiko was among some cetaceans who had the poorest health imaginable in captivity. His immune system does not represent the immune system of all cetaceans in captivity.
@richorcaonyt (Pt. 2) Captivity compromised his immune system. He was more susceptible to illness, and that's why he died of acute pneumonia so quickly.
(And before you make assumptions about when I said he sought out human contact when he fell ill: that was BEFORE he caught pneumonia.)
@richorcaonyt Of course he was rejected - he didn't belong to those pods. It's very rare for a pod to adopt an outsider. Many people thought he would avoid contact with other orcas, but he did quite the opposite. Keiko traveled hundreds of miles on his own, and got to CHOOSE how he wanted to live. But seeing how he grew up being cared for by humans, that was his safe zone. Whenever he was ill in captivity, the humans took care of him. So when he fell ill for the last time, he sought out humans.
The film was just completed July 2010 and is currently being screened a film festivals in search of national/international distribution. You can keep up to date about possible screenings in your area at the movie's website or on Facebook. Just today it is screening at the Anchorage Film Festival in Alaska at 12 noon at the Bear Tooth Theater. If You have friends there, let them know about the screening of the film.
i want to see ´this film since i've heard of it for the first time in 2008 ... now i'm wondering if it is possible to see it or to buy the dvd here in germany... ?? I'd be so happy ...
Hi there. Thanks so much for posting this, fingers crossed it gets the attention it deserves, I was just wondering where and how I could watch this film in the UK? Many thanks x
Keiko died of pneumonia and malnutrition on Taknes Bay, Norway a bay are with a small population with people. It's apparent he tried his attempt at hunting but without a pod, capturing prey (such as grouped fish, seals and penguins) became a hassle. It is also apparent that in his malnutioned state he became succeptable to illnesses which is how he contracted pneumonia (without food consumption he lost blubber to block out the cold) as far as beaching, he was sick that is what they do.
DomSubmissiveKitty 1 week ago
@DomSubmissiveKitty (to add) it also became apparent that he viewed the people on the shore of the bay as possible food bearers (since his park caregivers would bring him food everyday) and hung around, he even may have breached his self in a attempt to do a trick for food rewards, since he knew that at the park he got treats when he performed the tricks.
DomSubmissiveKitty 1 week ago
I was pleasantly surprised by the DVD. I was expecting a tirade of propaganda and lies. In fact, it was quite refreshing. They even said, "Though this and this happened, but this and this didn't happen, it's up to you to decide whether it failed or not". At least, that's what I got from it.
4theOrcas 2 weeks ago
Keiko has been imprisoned and forced to work for long enough! Keiko needs a sanctuary home!
cheyla38 1 month ago
@cheyla38 Uhh, Keiko is dead. You don't get a better sanctuary then a grave!
4theOrcas 2 weeks ago
Folks who are incapable of maintaining decorum during discussions about the film Keiko The Untold Story or about Life and Legend of Keiko the orca star of Free Willy will be banned from making any further comments on this site no matter what their position may be on this very controversial subject. We highly recommend that you watch the whole film now available on Amazon and at the film's website and begin your discussions from that platform.
theresacd1 2 months ago
To RingneckDoveFan:
Shut the hell up. You call FreedomForOrcas full of herself while you work at a freaking coffee shop and you think you know more than biologists who have been studying wild and captive cetaceans for their whole lives. You make up BS just to get SeaWorld a good image so you can be a trainer and be part of orcas' only predator. 25 years isn't a long time? WELL THAT'S HOW LONG ORCAS LIVE IN CAPTIVITY!!!! Do your damn research before you contradict yourself like that.
PacificOrcas 2 months ago
I still miss him as much... Haven't got a chance to see him yet n he's gone :(
tingting77 3 months ago
I love it how anti-caps compare Keiko's "long-lived life" to captive orcas. UH HELLO...Keiko was wild. Not captive. Comparing him to captive males is completely irrelevant. Keiko lived 18 years in captivity. And 5 out in the wild. He did not break any record for captive orcas..OR WILD.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
what is the bumps around Keiko's flippers? Ive always wondered that but never found my answer
Silvawolf100 5 months ago
@Silvawolf100
It was papillomavirus from the warm water at Reino Aventura.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan they look like they would be irritating
Silvawolf100 5 months ago
Ignore RingneckDoveFan, the so-called "expert" who somehow knows more than scientists, marine biologists and people who studied and worked hard to set Keiko free. If it were up to her, every single marine mammal would live in tanks performing for her sick amusement, never to see the ocean again.
I am so happy that Keiko was lucky enough to travel free. He CHOSE freedom. He could've turned around or stayed where he was, but he CHOSE to swim thousands of miles to Norway. Haters gonna hate.
FreedomForOrcas 5 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
LOL
His caretakers left him. He got lost. They even tell you that in the documentary!!! Keiko kept swimming and swimming and swimming in a straight line. Eventually, he ended up in Norway. Keiko had no freakin' idea where he was going. Then, Colin Baird went out in a boat to spy on him, but it was too late. Keiko found him. Keiko NEVER left the boat after that. It was then that Keiko spent the rest of his life with humans. He did NOT chose to be free. At all.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Btw, I know much more about captive orcas than all those "experts" will ever know. Fact.
Oh, and are you calling me a lier? Because apparently, Kohana is NOT the name of the older female at LP. Her name is Kahana according to the "experts."
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - Wow. That is so arrogant. I'm surprised that people actually take you seriously.
FreedomForOrcas 5 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Oh yeah, you should unblock me on facebook too so you can read the comments, the people on K:TUS facebook love me. Teresa is even advertising my dang page!!! Look for yourself!
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - Um yeah, I don't care Carly. Like, I actually do not care about you or anything you say or do. Why do you keep vying for my attention? I'm not interested.
FreedomForOrcas 5 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Um, yeah Gwen, you do care.
I got a notification that you commented on their wall post. Thankfully since you blocked me, it stopped my eyes from being burned. : )
Hypocrite. You DO care.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - I actually wasnt going to reply on that Keiko wall post until I saw that you used wikipedia as a source for your comment. Nobody uses wiki, in fact when you go to.university/college, you will be PENALISED for using it as a source. Why? Because its so UNRELIABLE. Lol thats pretty much the only thing I said.
FreedomForOrcas 5 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
Naomi Rose and all the other anti-caps are also unreliable.
There is nothing wrong with wiki.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan - lol that is a joke. I'm sorry, but scientists who have actually STUDIED dolphins and know what they are talking about are far more reliable than wikipedia, which can be edited by any random person on the internet. End discussion.
FreedomForOrcas 5 months ago
@FreedomForOrcas
There is nothing wrong with what is written on Wiki.
End discussion.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan Wiki is written by God knows who! anyone and everyone. Im in university, studying wildlife conservation and like FreedomForOrcas stated if I dared to use Wiki automatic FAIL for potentially false information. Anti-caps, like myself...like FreedomForOrcas and like PacificOrcas have and continuously study and research captivity and the cetaceans in it. Why? because we actually care
CrazyStacey101 2 months ago
Interv. withExpert Cast Member HSUS Marine Scientist Naomi Rose: " The large majority of folks who are negatively charaterizing what happened to Keiko are wrong. They weren't there...Whether he would have lived longer had he stayed in captivity is debateable. No one knows what would have happened. SeaWorldhas had 22 orcas die in the last 24yrs. about one a year has been dying on them, most in their pre-teens&teens,most of pneumonia or unknown causes. Only one was older than Keiko
theresacd1 5 months ago
@theresa Wrong. Keiko only lived 22.5 years after his capture. He didn't break any record.
Rose makes no sense. She is basically saying, since I wasn't with Keiko, I have no idea what went on.. LOL.. ok then, let me make this fair, Rose has never been behind-the-scenes or worked for a zoological facility. She has NO idea how cetacean captivity works.
"SeaWorldhas had 22 orcas die in the last 24yrs." haha...and how many WILD residents died in the past 24 years? WAY more than 22.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
"Keiko died in December 2003, at half his life expectancy. He never integrated into wild killer whale pods. The researchers concluded: "...Keiko’s release to the wild was not successful, since though physically unrestricted and free to leave, he kept returning to his caretakers for food and company."
"Keiko was not part of a social unit, was not young, and had been in captivity most of his life. Therefore, the researchers in retrospect found Keiko "...a poor candidate for release."
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
The people talking towards the end don't seem to understand how ingnorant, naive, and disgusting the things they said are. Keiko swimming in a straight line all alone was not him thriving. It was him looking for sustenance and attention. Keiko swimming with a few wild orcas is not incredible. Those wild orcas wanted nothing to do with him. Once Keiko had enough, he swam back to that boat like a scared kid on the first day of school. THAT is the real Untold Story.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
@RingneckDoveFan i cant believe SOME people are calling you a liar. I read about the information you have been posting long before reading your posts. It is true Keiko's release was a failure.
Silvawolf100 5 months ago
@Silvawolf100
Thank you... at least some people are aware of it. I just watched this "documentary" last night and it was awful how much LIES Naomi Rose spread. Not to mention how BIASED Tobba and Colin Baird was (Keiko's caretakers). And don't get me started on Paul Spong and Mark Berman. I'm almost certain the interviewers gave them a fat blunt right before the interview.
RingneckDoveFan 5 months ago
VERY nice!!! Thanks for posting, Theresa!
ScottInVa1760 5 months ago
I love Keiko more than anyone else!!!! I love u keiko!!!!
:)
marshmallow84100 6 months ago
we all miss u
bluefeathers103 6 months ago
@theresacd1 where can i get this video?
bballerplyr18 8 months ago
@bballerplyr18 Keiko The Untold Story will be available in the next few months starting from the film's website Release date will be noted there soon
theresacd1 8 months ago
@theresacd1 go to film's website you can order the DVD now:) shipping in one week
theresacd1 8 months ago
go to film's website you can order the DVD now:) shipping in one week
theresacd1 8 months ago
Clearly, Keiko never successfully adapted to what was once his home. This happens also with wild chimpanzees taken away at a young age from their families, kept by humans for most of their lives and then when they are finally released into sanctuary, they have problems integrating with other chimps because they never learned the skills necessary to being a chimp.
Too many years in captivity for Keiko posed the same sort of problems. What a tragedy.
Shame on Marineland and others!
judyrusso 10 months ago
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CANT WAIT TO WATCH IT!!!!!!!
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Keiko!!! I miss u sooo much!!!!!
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yunjae8686 11 months ago
eiko: The Untold Story the film is going on a film festival tour for the next few months in search of national and international distribution. Once national international distribution has been determined, the film will then be available to the public in many different forms. you can stay tuned here and on the film's website
theresacd1 1 year ago
when or where can I find this film on DVD? I already want to buy it after seeing this trailer!!! :-)
venturafor2012 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt (From Cont. 2) And if you read the reports available to the public, you would not be saying that Keiko was begging for human care. Yes he sought human contact in the end, but he was by no means begging.
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt Not natural by means of orca standards, certainly not. It was better than the concrete walls at Port of Nagoya.
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt (From cont.) She survived for 25 years in a sea pen, full of natural seawater, no walls, none of that normal captivity junk (although she was isolated). Then she was moved into an artificial environment, and she died six months later.
Port of Nagoya Public Aquarium had another orca at one point - Ku - but she died in 2008 from heart failure. She also previously lived in a sea pen, etc etc. (Cont. 2)
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt Wrong? Really?
Nami was living in a natural sea pen. And then Nami was moved via 23-hour-long-barge-ride into artificial seawater, experienced solid walls for the first time, and was expected to do more things and live with dolphins not of her species. She was expected to use gates. She was expected to adjust with no issues whatsoever. She became ill reportedly twice during those six months. The second time was in December - ulcerative colitis. (Cont.)
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@ThePrairieOrca Nami's home at Taiji wasn't natural. It was a concrete bay made to look like a pen.
IAmADalek 1 year ago
@IAmADalek Nami was in a natural cove with some artificial additions like nets and docks. There's pictures and videos in case you haven't seen them. There's videos of people who made videos of Nami while she was still in Taiji, and expressing their fear at the time their video was posted that they were afraid that Nami would die at Port of Nagoya due to being surrounded by concrete walls, having no natural seawater, etc.
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt Better than swimming in a circle for days on end without seeing another orca. He chose to interact with his own kind. He chose to eat live fish. He chose to seek out human contact when he wanted it. He disappeared in 2002 from July to September, and it was during that time that he traveled to Norway all on his own. He could have stayed in Iceland and stayed with humans, but he chose to travel.
The whole plan was to allow Keiko to live, and die, on his own terms. In the wild.
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt Actually, Keiko was among some cetaceans who had the poorest health imaginable in captivity. His immune system does not represent the immune system of all cetaceans in captivity.
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt (Pt. 2) Captivity compromised his immune system. He was more susceptible to illness, and that's why he died of acute pneumonia so quickly.
(And before you make assumptions about when I said he sought out human contact when he fell ill: that was BEFORE he caught pneumonia.)
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt Of course he was rejected - he didn't belong to those pods. It's very rare for a pod to adopt an outsider. Many people thought he would avoid contact with other orcas, but he did quite the opposite. Keiko traveled hundreds of miles on his own, and got to CHOOSE how he wanted to live. But seeing how he grew up being cared for by humans, that was his safe zone. Whenever he was ill in captivity, the humans took care of him. So when he fell ill for the last time, he sought out humans.
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
@richorcaonyt Actually, it was a success. He was released to the wild, and he was free to choose where he wanted to be, and who he wanted to be with.
If he was moved to SeaWorld, he would have died within a year. The average time in captivity for orcas is 15 years.
ThePrairieOrca 1 year ago
The film was just completed July 2010 and is currently being screened a film festivals in search of national/international distribution. You can keep up to date about possible screenings in your area at the movie's website or on Facebook. Just today it is screening at the Anchorage Film Festival in Alaska at 12 noon at the Bear Tooth Theater. If You have friends there, let them know about the screening of the film.
theresacd1 1 year ago
i want to see ´this film since i've heard of it for the first time in 2008 ... now i'm wondering if it is possible to see it or to buy the dvd here in germany... ?? I'd be so happy ...
Guitarsoccergirl 1 year ago
thumbs up for SSCS!
Broms94 1 year ago
Hi there. Thanks so much for posting this, fingers crossed it gets the attention it deserves, I was just wondering where and how I could watch this film in the UK? Many thanks x
mrsteedster 1 year ago