The guyasking the question or wanting to ask the question was told to he could ask the question after... but he wanted to bully his way to asking it right then... he was clearly out of order. Sorry, but he still has to follow the rules... he obviously doesnt know the rules.
@2209835 The UK is NOT controlling Canada, they stopped giving a fuck about our government a long time ago.
Although yes, our government IS a joke when it comes to the Senate. (And they're not drunk. I wish that could be the reason why they're acting so stupid, but they're not.)
@2209835 Obviously didn't do the reseach, now look up NAFTA, and related topics, some people in the states laugh a bit about this.
The british empire shaped candain parliment and law, since they figured it worked for them, there's the similarilties. Then canada focused towards global responiblities after the creation of the UN, some skeptics would feel the US controls it.
Closest tie to UK today is the commonwealth, and really, do they control things?
SHUT UP YOU RETARDED ZITFACE GEEK GO WATCH THE TREEHOUSE CHANNEL I THINK YOUR FAVORITE SHOWS ON!!!! BARNEY YAY!!!!! NOW GO WATCH IT!!!!!! i meant for that to go to chindoo
"NL" is the Neuf, right? i was pointed at this vid as an example for the neuf dialect. he sounds like a scott that's been hanging around down here too long :P
btw, i thought OUR government people were tempermental!
Actually, this is pretty standard stuff in committees of all stripes, government and otherwise. Aside from the initial dispute over handling the point-of-order, which only demonstrated the ignorance of committee procedures by members of the committee, it was hardly a brawl.
go eat some poutine with the equalization payments we give you bitch. The west funds the rest of the country and this is how you repay us? By being a racist bitch?
@jpat911 I live in Vancouver you jackass. But now that you asked for it, I tell you I take Quebec over Alberta anyday. I would love it if Alberta , you and conservatives separated and left Canada. You guys suck in human terms so your money is not worth your trouble. Also Albertans are not a race and nor are conservatives so you racist comment is baseless.
your baseless hatred for a group of people is hilarious and is criteria held by racists, hence why i called you a racist bitch. You would really say 4 million human beings are worth less than you because on average they share dissimilar opinions and backgrounds? Sounds like you've been fed some pretty shit propaganda my friend.
Electing Senators is a horrible idea. If they were elected they would just muddle the process by challenging our MPs. If elected, they would feel like they have the necessary authority to do so. It would also cost Canadians a lot of money, and it would require yet another change to our constitution, costing more time and money that could be better spent elsewhere. I thought conservatives liked to save the country's money and avoid constitutional battles? Now they want to make gov bigger?
Any body that can function as a brake on a demagogic legislature, yet still responsible to the people albeit on a broader franchise, is an excellent thing.
MPs ought to be challenged, and it ought to be harder for a government to ramrod controversial measures using the party its beholden to. This principle applies to any government, Conservative, Liberal or any other.
Anyone who understands Robert's Rules of Order understands why you can't just shout down the chair and demand to speak. Either Fabian Manning doesn't understand the rules or is being a jackass. It's most likely that he is being deliberately disruptive as per the Conservative Senator's Handbook on Disrupting Committees.
Fabian Manning is acting like a child. Anyone who has sat on a committee of any kind knows that it is the duty of the Chair to keep the conversation on topic. He is NOT telling Manning he can't speak, he is saying he can't speak at that moment. There is a difference. If order isn't maintained the conversations go in circles with nothing getting accomplished!
Conservatives deliberately subvert committee procedures in both of the houses, so it is not that surprising.
It is about time that a few of those Liberal fossils in the Senate got woke up. This is one of the greater displays of their arrogance and abuse of parliamentary procedure to suit the Chair but discredit the democratic system.
Typical Canada. Got heads stuck up so far, they've blown out any reasonability. Paid by the hour, bureaucrats are more interested in the process and their importance, rather than actually providing any service and taking Canada anywhere. Major fail.
I happened upon this video by chance. Our taxes are actually paying for this debacle. They would not be able to get away with this in kindergarten.
As they are all political appointments they can't be fired. What a joke on all of the hard working Canadians particularly those who have lost their jobs and are wondering where their next meal is coming from.Their salaries and perks could fill all the food banks for Canadians who have actually contributed to society.
actually i agree with the dude trying to ask the question, anytime someone is behind a desk as a judge they feel they can stop anyone from anything even from their rights, he has not heard enough, this is pretty smart of him, and everyone joins him too.
fucking politicians.. Politicians don't solve problems.. They only make people feel that someone is solving problems.. But in reality this is what they do most of the time .
i agree with you gissina, Canadian govt can be few internationally as a govt that slacks and acts like pussies. They are slow and inefficient and fucks up one way or the other.
This is what you get when you get non-elected morons discussing something. They don't care how idiotic they look because they have their senate seat until they die. Screw the senate and the governor general. NO NEED TO ELECT their position just get rid of them; they do nothing anyway.
My 5 yr old grandbaby has more common sense. SHAME ON YOU ALL!!! You should all be sent to the naughty chair. Yes I am from Canada, and I am embarrased! And these poor babies.... and they only make what a minimum of $80G a year.
Wow! I am actually embarassed to tears here. Here is OUR Senators who make up Canada's National Security Committee who are supposed to be discussing/debating the security of Canadians and all they can do is yell at each other, call each other names, and act like a bunch of children?!?! This is absolutely disgusting and although I am a huge Liberal supporter, I am more disgusted with the Liberal Chair. Shame on him!!! You're all small children!!!
in reply to scott james crowe, your an idiot, he was making a point that hewasnt allowed to ask a question and he wasnt being treated fairly, fuck you, Mr Manning was taking his place over that fucking big shot from ontario and i will quote from one of the honourable senators "Your not a chair"
i compleatly agree with "compoundk" and "eeuuie2009", Mr. Manning was only asking a question that was well within his rights, as was supported by his fellow senator. If you actually listened to what he was saying, as opposed to tuning out, you would have noticed that the man had and intelligent if not perfectly articulate question. Babbling implys a lack of sense or knowledge of language.. if you think that was babling i'm gonna have to agree further with CompoundK, you are an idiot.
And by the way, the word newfie is a deragatory term, think of it as the other "N" word. You dont say it unless your part of the group.. and even then. ..
Who the hell is this chair guy think he is!! Talk about power trip! Let the guy say what he has to say, listen and then move on. Thats the goverment i thought we had.
Channing, one problem though. There are actual written rules governing Parliamentary meeting procedure in Canada. Working at the AB Legislative Assembly, I can tell you that in the House, there's no votes or questions when the Speaker has to role on an issue of procedure. Although this is a Senate Committee, I wouldn't be surprised if they had similar rules.
First he recognizes Manning then tells him he is out of order. What is this, the chair's own personal little empire? Kenny thinks he's a demagogue. Does he remember what it was like for him during his first year in the senate. Oh, I forgot, that was so long ago.
Anybody want to make fun of Kenny's 'mainland' accent or somebody's French Canadian accent??
Talk about childish. Some should read their own comments. Bigotry is alive and well in Canada and living in the comments on You Tube.
He recognizes him and then realizes they're about to be dragged off on some tangential issue. If you've ever been in a committee meeting then you'll know these are potentially endless and innumerable. The issue was a point of order: on a point of order (unlike some other motions), the chair can cut anyone off at any time and issue his ruling. He can even rule on a point of order without asking for anyone's input: it's totally at his discretion. He'd heard enough, cut him off, then ruled. So?
You seem to be prolific in your replies, how about answering the issue I raised about new senators and the fact that Kenny seems more interested in weilding power than helping a new fella or dealing with the issue raised,.... and a valid one..... whose rulings subvernt whose??
Kenny is trying to run a committee meeting. It's not the chair's job to help the unprepared out: it's the job of every senator who, like Fabian Manning, is being paid $132,300 a year, to arrive for work prepared and not expect others to spoonfeed him and not throw a tantrum because he's clueless about the rules. For that money, he can afford brush up on the rules all by himself.
Fabian Manning is a joke. He will always be out of order in that job, because he shouldn't be there. He was put there as a personal jab by Stephen Harper toward Danny Williams because he failed to win his seat in parliament. I just hope he realizes that he is the biggest farce the Canadian Senate has and will ever see.
Canada is truly run by the biggest bunch of SCREWHEADS imaginable! You would have to be a screwhead to even want to participate in this kind of bullshit on an ongoing basis.
You're practically insulting 33 million people of different cultures you bag of vommit.
I agree this meeting went terribly, but it doesn't mean that we Canadians like it. We'd REALLY be screwheads that way, but guess what, we're not. That's because we actually AGREE that this was total crap, okay?
So please be decent, and have some consideration you fool.
The government of Canada could make billions of dollars for the ailing economy if they legalize marijuana. Produce , tax, and regulate marijuana would make billions for Canadians. It would also SAVE Canadians billions of dollars, which are currently wasted on its illegality. Billions of our tax dollars are wasted on police resources, court costs, and jail time.....Legalize Marijuana
What a fucking disgrace - the way the clerk has to say "the honourable" before each name - what a waste of time and what an undeserved tag for all of them.
And Canadians are all paying for this inconsequential shitshow. It should be disbanded and replaced with a democratically elected body, just as surely as Harper's government should be voted down by Parliament and replaced with a democratically elected body...
Colin Kenny was probably just following Senate rules, but the Senate is so archaic just like our entire political system. I mean, for godsakes, Kenny himself has been in the Senate since Trudeau was prime minister, and Trudeau left office more than 20 years ago! To boot, none of these senators are elected by the people
I side with Mr. Kenny. on this one. these meetings have structure to pare down the BS and sidebar issues. If someone is not up to speed at a certain point they have no right to interject if & when they so choose. These meetings are set up so that even if all members were as out spoken as the Newfie guy at the end of the day something could STILL be accomplished, despite the oxygen being sucked from the room. We should remember that.
Blechch! So frustrating to witness what appears to be such petty behavior. Classic dick waving by a few alphas. Despite the apparent dysfunctionality of this cttee, the senate as it is constituted is an essential brake on the hasty adoption of unsound legislation.
I don't know why you say that. Colin Kenny did nothing wrong. He followed the rules and was a gentleman right to the end. This was clearly a ploy by the conservatives to try to ruin the committee. And for what? Over some stupid question. These are Harper tactics through and through.
I hate the Conservative Party, but if you honestly think this you are just being foolish. Manning was trying to ask a frigging question, and Kenny was being a dick.
That's completely wrong. There was a pending ruling on a point of order (the point of order was obviously raised before this excerpt began). The chair does not have to listen to everybody speak before making a ruling: he can cut them off whenever he feels he's heard enough to arrive at a decision. That's what he did, but Manning is clueless and thinks he can just keep talking.
Some Senators are involved with drugs, prostitution. Yes, they are worst than organized crime. They suppose to control Canada, the peaceful, mature country. I feel sad.
"Some Senators are involved with drugs, prostitution." - Now just playing devils advocate here, but what proof do you have to make those kinds of allegations? Have you bought drugs or prostitutes from any Senators personally? Can you recommend which Senator has the best stash and women?
Just between you and me. I was personally stalked by someone working in the Government. Yes, I am a Straight male and that stalker is a guy. I do not mind if it was a lady. Plus, I got the drug/prostitution information from a source with connection to the narcotic investigations. But enough said for now. Life is full of surprises.
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I have personally suffered the wrath of Colin Kenney... who is a despicable man! The Conservatives, because they appointed new Senators now have more numbers and are FINALLY putting this BULLY in his place. I just hope the Tories put him over the edge and get him to quit his little empire of the Security & Defence Committee. Kenney is a dickhead.
I am not a "fan" of anything and the rules are not being used here to "subvert democracy" at all. That's plainly nonsense. No committee -- parliamentary or otherwise -- simply allows people to speak whenever they feel like it. There is no way they could work if they operated like that. People would all talk simultaneously for the purpose of drowning out their opponents and would try to monopolize the floor. That's why there *are* rules.
You are amazingly naive - yes the rules are there to prevent abuse but, and here is where I am shaking my head in frustration, in this case the rules are being used abusively. Your failure to recognize this fact, and your open-eyed trust in a system gone awry is astonishing in what appears to be an otherwise intelligent persona. I suspect you study rules too much and history not enough.
Your statement contains nothing but old, tired stereotypes. It sounds like something an ignorant american would say. Besides, hockey and weed have NOTHING to do with the hearing This rude committee session is probably an isolated incident. Finally, such bickering can and does happen randomly at every level of government in every country on the face of the earth.
The comments here are appalling ignorant. As far as I can make out, the chair is ruling on a point of order. Points of order are not debatable; the chair may, at his discretion, listen to members' opinions on the topic and then rule whenever he feels he's heard enough. This is very basic parliamentary procedure. The problem is, Kenny & Tkachuk appear to be the only ones who know anything about parliamentary rules. I can't claim to know which one is right, but "they suck!" isn't a good analysis.
He's not doing anything the kind. He's trying to rule on a point of order and Manning won't shut up. He doesn't have the floor; he's out of order. Kenny cuts him off in order to rule on the point of order. That's not an abuse of power: it's elementary parliamentary procedure. The problem is Manning thinks he can just talk anyway. No deliberative body could possibly work if anybody could just talk whenever they just feel like it.
Hey, that guy sounds like my grandma
stereolove79 2 months ago
I was too busy listening to the Newfie accents to pay attention to what they were actually saying.
RenGader 3 months ago 2
This is not a "fight"... this is an "arguement"... retard
themargenaus 7 months ago
The guyasking the question or wanting to ask the question was told to he could ask the question after... but he wanted to bully his way to asking it right then... he was clearly out of order. Sorry, but he still has to follow the rules... he obviously doesnt know the rules.
themargenaus 7 months ago
haha uncle fabian manning being funny like he always is!!!!
KatteymRaps 7 months ago
I find the Newfoundland's senator amusing. It's more like Australian than Canadian! v
kimtiu 7 months ago
Canadian Goverment is a JOKE ! UK is controling Canada.. These guys are bunch of Drunk, Rich, Dumm guys !
2209835 9 months ago
@2209835 The UK is NOT controlling Canada, they stopped giving a fuck about our government a long time ago.
Although yes, our government IS a joke when it comes to the Senate. (And they're not drunk. I wish that could be the reason why they're acting so stupid, but they're not.)
HowzitMorong 6 months ago
@2209835 Obviously didn't do the reseach, now look up NAFTA, and related topics, some people in the states laugh a bit about this.
The british empire shaped candain parliment and law, since they figured it worked for them, there's the similarilties. Then canada focused towards global responiblities after the creation of the UN, some skeptics would feel the US controls it.
Closest tie to UK today is the commonwealth, and really, do they control things?
Most polititians fit your criteria.
chillinchum 1 month ago
*popcorn*
Jaeger7793 9 months ago 2
God, Newfies are funny.
OnionMan 9 months ago
he cant even ask a question??? hes my uncle
KatteymRaps 10 months ago
that chair is a jackass
Trruckker 11 months ago
@Trruckker
you mean my uncle?? SHUT UP YOUR A JACKASS YOUR A FAT JACKASS PIG!!!
KatteymRaps 10 months ago
@Trruckker I see being a Jackass runs in the family then...lmao
Trruckker 10 months ago
@Trruckker
SHUT UP YOU RETARDED ZITFACE GEEK GO WATCH THE TREEHOUSE CHANNEL I THINK YOUR FAVORITE SHOWS ON!!!! BARNEY YAY!!!!! NOW GO WATCH IT!!!!!!
KatteymRaps 10 months ago
@Trruckker
SHUT UP YOU RETARDED ZITFACE GEEK GO WATCH THE TREEHOUSE CHANNEL I THINK YOUR FAVORITE SHOWS ON!!!! BARNEY YAY!!!!! NOW GO WATCH IT!!!!!! i meant for that to go to chindoo
KatteymRaps 10 months ago
@KatteymRaps you are 14 yrs old and you are calling me zitface......anyways come argue with me when you grow up....BYE
Trruckker 10 months ago
"NL" is the Neuf, right? i was pointed at this vid as an example for the neuf dialect. he sounds like a scott that's been hanging around down here too long :P
btw, i thought OUR government people were tempermental!
anonymuswere 1 year ago
You don't have the flooooor...Ooot, Ooot....blah blah blah. Lulz.
gombis666 1 year ago
Actually, this is pretty standard stuff in committees of all stripes, government and otherwise. Aside from the initial dispute over handling the point-of-order, which only demonstrated the ignorance of committee procedures by members of the committee, it was hardly a brawl.
CalgaryMan2009 2 years ago
Someone ought to shoot harper before he ruins this country. These Albertan pigs are fit to run a barn not a country.
chindoo 2 years ago
@chindoo
go eat some poutine with the equalization payments we give you bitch. The west funds the rest of the country and this is how you repay us? By being a racist bitch?
jpat911 11 months ago
@jpat911 I live in Vancouver you jackass. But now that you asked for it, I tell you I take Quebec over Alberta anyday. I would love it if Alberta , you and conservatives separated and left Canada. You guys suck in human terms so your money is not worth your trouble. Also Albertans are not a race and nor are conservatives so you racist comment is baseless.
chindoo 11 months ago
@chindoo
your baseless hatred for a group of people is hilarious and is criteria held by racists, hence why i called you a racist bitch. You would really say 4 million human beings are worth less than you because on average they share dissimilar opinions and backgrounds? Sounds like you've been fed some pretty shit propaganda my friend.
jpat911 11 months ago
@chindoo
shut up you fat pig
KatteymRaps 10 months ago
@KatteymRaps fat? Pig? How do you know. You snotty 14 year old zithead...hahaha watch some sesame street may you get streetwise..LOL..Alberta my ass!
chindoo 10 months ago
to "make up your mind" without hearing all the views will likely result in a flawed response. One reached at the taxpayer's expense...
this guy actually gets paid for this job? or is this the janitor?
uturniaphobic 2 years ago
yay....what?.....he said yay
looooool
melyzatube 2 years ago
Sgt at Arms should eject the crank.
kooodeal 2 years ago
I CAN'T WAIT till Harper gets control of the Senate, then maybe we can finally have a triple E Senate.
Cnd1867 2 years ago
Yes, because the US has proven that an elected senate is clearly effective /s
cpiliotis 2 years ago 2
Electing Senators is a horrible idea. If they were elected they would just muddle the process by challenging our MPs. If elected, they would feel like they have the necessary authority to do so. It would also cost Canadians a lot of money, and it would require yet another change to our constitution, costing more time and money that could be better spent elsewhere. I thought conservatives liked to save the country's money and avoid constitutional battles? Now they want to make gov bigger?
HORACEBONES 2 years ago
Ｉ agree that electing Senate is a horrible idea,
LET'S ABOLISH THE SENATE!!!!
whatiskungfan 2 years ago
Any body that can function as a brake on a demagogic legislature, yet still responsible to the people albeit on a broader franchise, is an excellent thing.
MPs ought to be challenged, and it ought to be harder for a government to ramrod controversial measures using the party its beholden to. This principle applies to any government, Conservative, Liberal or any other.
baraxor 2 years ago
Fucking Conservative assholes.
Larlar001 2 years ago
LOL!! angry canadians, no offense but this is halarious.
damM3 2 years ago
Here is the perfect argument for the abolishment of the senate.
HORACEBONES 2 years ago 7
Either that or make them accountable to the public by a public vote on each position.
jmay2002 2 years ago
Anyone who understands Robert's Rules of Order understands why you can't just shout down the chair and demand to speak. Either Fabian Manning doesn't understand the rules or is being a jackass. It's most likely that he is being deliberately disruptive as per the Conservative Senator's Handbook on Disrupting Committees.
madmulroney 2 years ago 10
What he said.
rubberburke 2 years ago
Agreed.
scottyf44 2 years ago
@madmulroney
YOU SHUT YOUR FAT MOUTH... YOUR A JACKASS, HES MY UNCLE, NOW GO TO HELL
KatteymRaps 10 months ago
holy shit we're doomed
akillies 2 years ago
They're Canadians
jaylls25 2 years ago
Fabian Manning is acting like a child. Anyone who has sat on a committee of any kind knows that it is the duty of the Chair to keep the conversation on topic. He is NOT telling Manning he can't speak, he is saying he can't speak at that moment. There is a difference. If order isn't maintained the conversations go in circles with nothing getting accomplished!
Conservatives deliberately subvert committee procedures in both of the houses, so it is not that surprising.
PTRDC 2 years ago 2
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MsRivits 2 years ago
It is about time that a few of those Liberal fossils in the Senate got woke up. This is one of the greater displays of their arrogance and abuse of parliamentary procedure to suit the Chair but discredit the democratic system.
MsRivits 2 years ago
Either elect or abolish the senate and be done with it!
alantang999 2 years ago
Yawn. Typical CBC, making news out of nothing.
lazyvoiced 2 years ago
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woolandenglish 2 years ago
Typical Canada. Got heads stuck up so far, they've blown out any reasonability. Paid by the hour, bureaucrats are more interested in the process and their importance, rather than actually providing any service and taking Canada anywhere. Major fail.
BeeRich33 2 years ago
This is a cross between a barnyard and a hockey match-up. They bleat and bray and generally waste time on stupid stuff.
And the worst part is, at the end of the sitting, they've learned nothing and forgotten nothing.
AllRequired 2 years ago
I happened upon this video by chance. Our taxes are actually paying for this debacle. They would not be able to get away with this in kindergarten.
As they are all political appointments they can't be fired. What a joke on all of the hard working Canadians particularly those who have lost their jobs and are wondering where their next meal is coming from.Their salaries and perks could fill all the food banks for Canadians who have actually contributed to society.
JoeJonasLover008 2 years ago 3
Newfie is the same as the 'N'-word? The heights of political correctness have no limit apparently.
OttawaJanus 2 years ago
buddy your a moron. when you gets a diploma then start talking
gardiner271 2 years ago
You're...
OttawaJanus 2 years ago
oh mr big shot. go fuck your self ass hole
gardiner271 2 years ago
Fuck them all.
denpanosekai 2 years ago
As a Canadian, I can honestly say I am embarrassed. These guys are ineffective and childish.
veerobillard 2 years ago
this is how it's always been. the only difference now is that there are cameras.
sgreen4 2 years ago 2
actually i agree with the dude trying to ask the question, anytime someone is behind a desk as a judge they feel they can stop anyone from anything even from their rights, he has not heard enough, this is pretty smart of him, and everyone joins him too.
bouzinem2 2 years ago
So this is what passes as "News and Politics", huh? Thanks again, Youtube, for insulting all of our intelligence!
dagrimreefah 2 years ago
lol
urbanprophet777 2 years ago
don't taze me bro!
counterfeitcoin 2 years ago
fucking politicians.. Politicians don't solve problems.. They only make people feel that someone is solving problems.. But in reality this is what they do most of the time .
komokoro 2 years ago 2
Librals r ass wipes the are clearly not leting the conservitives speak
crazzykill453 2 years ago
I'm sorry, you're out of order!
FUUPTHEA 2 years ago
Newf fucking iphone
crazzykill453 2 years ago
Fuck you are you a newfondlander cuz if ur not ur out of line saying need
crazzykill453 2 years ago
Wow, government is so efficient.
I'm going to happily go live in the woods and shit in a bucket for the rest of my days. Adieu.
thebeardedonion 2 years ago 2
Oh my goodness!
POLITICS! I live in Canada and our government gets nothing done!
Ridiculous bickering!
gissina 2 years ago
i agree with you gissina, Canadian govt can be few internationally as a govt that slacks and acts like pussies. They are slow and inefficient and fucks up one way or the other.
yuna238 2 years ago
this isnt actually that bad if u compare it to the other countries like fistfights and riots lol
hawgi888 2 years ago
Isn't actually that bad? Or maybe not actually that good. Think about it.
(Hint: Fist fights are awesome)
BStaff 2 years ago
This is what you get when you get non-elected morons discussing something. They don't care how idiotic they look because they have their senate seat until they die. Screw the senate and the governor general. NO NEED TO ELECT their position just get rid of them; they do nothing anyway.
AtheistPride007 2 years ago
that guy is on a power trip
JimmyDasnitch92 2 years ago
My 5 yr old grandbaby has more common sense. SHAME ON YOU ALL!!! You should all be sent to the naughty chair. Yes I am from Canada, and I am embarrased! And these poor babies.... and they only make what a minimum of $80G a year.
Synnimyn 2 years ago
Go Fabian!
hengedude 2 years ago
Wow! I am actually embarassed to tears here. Here is OUR Senators who make up Canada's National Security Committee who are supposed to be discussing/debating the security of Canadians and all they can do is yell at each other, call each other names, and act like a bunch of children?!?! This is absolutely disgusting and although I am a huge Liberal supporter, I am more disgusted with the Liberal Chair. Shame on him!!! You're all small children!!!
jacobsdennis 2 years ago
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CompoundK 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
What else would you expect from a bunch of piece of shit Caucasians.
numako999 2 years ago
Another fine example of Senators incompetency featured in this video:
watch?v=-ABCLvOu-9Y
liberty4canada 2 years ago
This should be titled "Babbling Newfie"
scottjamescrowe 2 years ago
in reply to scott james crowe, your an idiot, he was making a point that hewasnt allowed to ask a question and he wasnt being treated fairly, fuck you, Mr Manning was taking his place over that fucking big shot from ontario and i will quote from one of the honourable senators "Your not a chair"
CompoundK 2 years ago 2
buddy fuck right off, babbling newfie, like wtf. he spoke up for himself, rest were scared little cowards, much like yourself,
eeuuie2009 2 years ago
@eeuuie2009
who are you talking bout?
KatteymRaps 7 months ago
i compleatly agree with "compoundk" and "eeuuie2009", Mr. Manning was only asking a question that was well within his rights, as was supported by his fellow senator. If you actually listened to what he was saying, as opposed to tuning out, you would have noticed that the man had and intelligent if not perfectly articulate question. Babbling implys a lack of sense or knowledge of language.. if you think that was babling i'm gonna have to agree further with CompoundK, you are an idiot.
steelenash 2 years ago
And by the way, the word newfie is a deragatory term, think of it as the other "N" word. You dont say it unless your part of the group.. and even then. ..
steelenash 2 years ago
go fuck yourself
gardiner271 2 years ago
what a bunch of homos
rdjsj 2 years ago
wow.
they argued for 6 minutes about a question.
that's worse than toddlers.
theprincessmelted 2 years ago 3
the chair is a major ass, he just wanted to ask a question!
nellygirl13 2 years ago
HAHAAHA What the hell are we at here if i cant ask a question??
channing76 2 years ago 2
Are there any Conservatives who support legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana?
GodsMarijuana 2 years ago
Who the hell is this chair guy think he is!! Talk about power trip! Let the guy say what he has to say, listen and then move on. Thats the goverment i thought we had.
channing76 2 years ago
Channing, one problem though. There are actual written rules governing Parliamentary meeting procedure in Canada. Working at the AB Legislative Assembly, I can tell you that in the House, there's no votes or questions when the Speaker has to role on an issue of procedure. Although this is a Senate Committee, I wouldn't be surprised if they had similar rules.
scottyf44 2 years ago
Rule on an issue of procedure, rather. Not "role."
scottyf44 2 years ago
Get rid of the Liberals and this circus would work or cease to be a circus.
RoryGibson10 2 years ago
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quickstrike93 2 years ago
liberals are better than conservatives
quickstrike93 2 years ago
thats right, it'd be one step closer to a autocracy...
yay dictators
(notice sarcasm?)
steelenash 2 years ago
Security and Defense! The issue is Security and Defense, children of the Senate!
Our Soldiers are teetering on the breaking point and these, "right honourable" men are bickering about being, "out of order"?
If these men are Canadian, I am ashamed to call myself one....
junugustinigan 2 years ago
First he recognizes Manning then tells him he is out of order. What is this, the chair's own personal little empire? Kenny thinks he's a demagogue. Does he remember what it was like for him during his first year in the senate. Oh, I forgot, that was so long ago.
Anybody want to make fun of Kenny's 'mainland' accent or somebody's French Canadian accent??
Talk about childish. Some should read their own comments. Bigotry is alive and well in Canada and living in the comments on You Tube.
DerekfromNF 2 years ago 2
He recognizes him and then realizes they're about to be dragged off on some tangential issue. If you've ever been in a committee meeting then you'll know these are potentially endless and innumerable. The issue was a point of order: on a point of order (unlike some other motions), the chair can cut anyone off at any time and issue his ruling. He can even rule on a point of order without asking for anyone's input: it's totally at his discretion. He'd heard enough, cut him off, then ruled. So?
rubberburke 2 years ago
You seem to be prolific in your replies, how about answering the issue I raised about new senators and the fact that Kenny seems more interested in weilding power than helping a new fella or dealing with the issue raised,.... and a valid one..... whose rulings subvernt whose??
DerekfromNF 2 years ago
Kenny is trying to run a committee meeting. It's not the chair's job to help the unprepared out: it's the job of every senator who, like Fabian Manning, is being paid $132,300 a year, to arrive for work prepared and not expect others to spoonfeed him and not throw a tantrum because he's clueless about the rules. For that money, he can afford brush up on the rules all by himself.
rubberburke 2 years ago
You're not a chair.
bz4kh 2 years ago 2
Fabian Manning is a joke. He will always be out of order in that job, because he shouldn't be there. He was put there as a personal jab by Stephen Harper toward Danny Williams because he failed to win his seat in parliament. I just hope he realizes that he is the biggest farce the Canadian Senate has and will ever see.
helonerth 2 years ago
Get a life b'y, hes doing just as good or better then the mainlanders, alot better than you so stop your complaining.
eeuuie2009 2 years ago
Canada is truly run by the biggest bunch of SCREWHEADS imaginable! You would have to be a screwhead to even want to participate in this kind of bullshit on an ongoing basis.
brow000rudy 2 years ago
Shut it.
You're practically insulting 33 million people of different cultures you bag of vommit.
I agree this meeting went terribly, but it doesn't mean that we Canadians like it. We'd REALLY be screwheads that way, but guess what, we're not. That's because we actually AGREE that this was total crap, okay?
So please be decent, and have some consideration you fool.
shadowblast007 2 years ago
Whatever
brow000rudy 2 years ago
The government of Canada could make billions of dollars for the ailing economy if they legalize marijuana. Produce , tax, and regulate marijuana would make billions for Canadians. It would also SAVE Canadians billions of dollars, which are currently wasted on its illegality. Billions of our tax dollars are wasted on police resources, court costs, and jail time.....Legalize Marijuana
GodsMarijuana 2 years ago
What a fucking disgrace - the way the clerk has to say "the honourable" before each name - what a waste of time and what an undeserved tag for all of them.
And Canadians are all paying for this inconsequential shitshow. It should be disbanded and replaced with a democratically elected body, just as surely as Harper's government should be voted down by Parliament and replaced with a democratically elected body...
Onager8 2 years ago
Hahha, this was on the NTV news!
BeechwoodSilasLang 2 years ago
these are the people in charge of our military... good thing everybody loves us :)
artvandelay13 2 years ago
Boring!
80sCartoonsRock 2 years ago
old white men fighting...ahahahahha
poomsie2002 2 years ago
hmmm...a racist comment...poor choice of words.
HDL1750 2 years ago
Pamela Wallin. From hosting Who Wants to be A Canadian Millionaire to Canadian senator!
Fmaack 2 years ago
What better way to become a Canadian Millionaire than to become a Canadian senator?
westeightyone 2 years ago
What do I see? Canadian Senators yammering at each other like old men around a game of shuffleboard. This is an embarrassment.
Fmaack 2 years ago
Colin Kenny was probably just following Senate rules, but the Senate is so archaic just like our entire political system. I mean, for godsakes, Kenny himself has been in the Senate since Trudeau was prime minister, and Trudeau left office more than 20 years ago! To boot, none of these senators are elected by the people
BuggZee 2 years ago
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rubberburke 2 years ago
newfie!
colbert3000 2 years ago
= feisty and smart !
westeightyone 2 years ago
I side with Mr. Kenny. on this one. these meetings have structure to pare down the BS and sidebar issues. If someone is not up to speed at a certain point they have no right to interject if & when they so choose. These meetings are set up so that even if all members were as out spoken as the Newfie guy at the end of the day something could STILL be accomplished, despite the oxygen being sucked from the room. We should remember that.
Gillhoolee 2 years ago
Anyone know where I can get the full video or audio?
UToobBuff 2 years ago
bunch of dorks! take away their pensoins and make 'em live on the street.
alan4sure 2 years ago
"'dis is outta 'and buye"
gotta love newfies.
buchichu 2 years ago
actually, its dis is ouva hand and b'y. and he spoke the truth !
eeuuie2009 2 years ago
Canadian politicians are such babies.
TontoStendecca 2 years ago
Blechch! So frustrating to witness what appears to be such petty behavior. Classic dick waving by a few alphas. Despite the apparent dysfunctionality of this cttee, the senate as it is constituted is an essential brake on the hasty adoption of unsound legislation.
SkyleoFiets 2 years ago
I don't know why you say that. Colin Kenny did nothing wrong. He followed the rules and was a gentleman right to the end. This was clearly a ploy by the conservatives to try to ruin the committee. And for what? Over some stupid question. These are Harper tactics through and through.
nojyt 2 years ago
I hate the Conservative Party, but if you honestly think this you are just being foolish. Manning was trying to ask a frigging question, and Kenny was being a dick.
TheFantasticalMike 2 years ago 4
That's completely wrong. There was a pending ruling on a point of order (the point of order was obviously raised before this excerpt began). The chair does not have to listen to everybody speak before making a ruling: he can cut them off whenever he feels he's heard enough to arrive at a decision. That's what he did, but Manning is clueless and thinks he can just keep talking.
rubberburke 2 years ago
Colin Keney is a dick
PumaOPumaOPumaO 2 years ago 3
Colin Kenney is gonna get clipped by his own words
luciuswake 2 years ago
This is Embarrassing! The Senate is a JOKE!
tammyleawatson 2 years ago 3
They aren't even democratically elected, its pathetic
PumaOPumaOPumaO 2 years ago 3
These guys are useless.
Daaddaa 2 years ago 4
Wallin is a talking head. Nothing more.
OntarioOntario 2 years ago 5
Some Senators are involved with drugs, prostitution. Yes, they are worst than organized crime. They suppose to control Canada, the peaceful, mature country. I feel sad.
Topazman12 2 years ago
"Some Senators are involved with drugs, prostitution." - Now just playing devils advocate here, but what proof do you have to make those kinds of allegations? Have you bought drugs or prostitutes from any Senators personally? Can you recommend which Senator has the best stash and women?
Pusfan 2 years ago
Just between you and me. I was personally stalked by someone working in the Government. Yes, I am a Straight male and that stalker is a guy. I do not mind if it was a lady. Plus, I got the drug/prostitution information from a source with connection to the narcotic investigations. But enough said for now. Life is full of surprises.
Topazman12 2 years ago
Conservatives are un-Canadian.
obomsawinn 2 years ago 3
this was so un-Canadian
andreaudet 2 years ago 4
what's worse than organized crime...
...disorganized crime.
uzebdrumz 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I have personally suffered the wrath of Colin Kenney... who is a despicable man! The Conservatives, because they appointed new Senators now have more numbers and are FINALLY putting this BULLY in his place. I just hope the Tories put him over the edge and get him to quit his little empire of the Security & Defence Committee. Kenney is a dickhead.
kroe1810 2 years ago
If a guy who's out of order continues to disrupt the proceedings of a committee, he should be forcibly physically removed from the room.
denelson83 2 years ago 2
Hahaha look at Fabian going at him. This was hilarious. So sad this is our government at work. The Chair is being a huge douche.
TheFantasticalMike 2 years ago
And these people are suppose to be the brightest in charge of our security... *put head down in shame* (-_-)"
disband this circus called the senate!
rubberduckytank 2 years ago 5
you... are still out of order.
gotonyc 2 years ago
The NL senator is acting like an idiot. Sounds like he's in a bar, with a half-dozen beers under his belt for God's sake!!
universalradio 2 years ago 5
Stupid conservatives... when will they learn?
tiggfigg 2 years ago 7
Rubberburke
A fan of rules - even when the rules are used to subvert democracy
Pathetic!!!
Jzasxx5 2 years ago
I am not a "fan" of anything and the rules are not being used here to "subvert democracy" at all. That's plainly nonsense. No committee -- parliamentary or otherwise -- simply allows people to speak whenever they feel like it. There is no way they could work if they operated like that. People would all talk simultaneously for the purpose of drowning out their opponents and would try to monopolize the floor. That's why there *are* rules.
rubberburke 2 years ago
You are amazingly naive - yes the rules are there to prevent abuse but, and here is where I am shaking my head in frustration, in this case the rules are being used abusively. Your failure to recognize this fact, and your open-eyed trust in a system gone awry is astonishing in what appears to be an otherwise intelligent persona. I suspect you study rules too much and history not enough.
Jzasxx5 2 years ago
We need an elected senate and an elected head of state. I'm sick of this crap.
mikailusmaximus 2 years ago
These senators get paid a minimum of $132,300 a year. Some are paid over $200,000. None are elected.
Abolish the senate.
kevmo99 2 years ago
Freakin Canadians man...too much hockey and hi grade weed.
The Newfie should just drop his stick and gloves and go after him. What a dick.
National security my ass
CHOADspewer 2 years ago
Your statement contains nothing but old, tired stereotypes. It sounds like something an ignorant american would say. Besides, hockey and weed have NOTHING to do with the hearing This rude committee session is probably an isolated incident. Finally, such bickering can and does happen randomly at every level of government in every country on the face of the earth.
LeCommensale 2 years ago 3
The comments here are appalling ignorant. As far as I can make out, the chair is ruling on a point of order. Points of order are not debatable; the chair may, at his discretion, listen to members' opinions on the topic and then rule whenever he feels he's heard enough. This is very basic parliamentary procedure. The problem is, Kenny & Tkachuk appear to be the only ones who know anything about parliamentary rules. I can't claim to know which one is right, but "they suck!" isn't a good analysis.
rubberburke 2 years ago 2
Wow, the chair is kind of an ass. He's just abusing his power at that point.
theevilone4 2 years ago 2
He's not doing anything the kind. He's trying to rule on a point of order and Manning won't shut up. He doesn't have the floor; he's out of order. Kenny cuts him off in order to rule on the point of order. That's not an abuse of power: it's elementary parliamentary procedure. The problem is Manning thinks he can just talk anyway. No deliberative body could possibly work if anybody could just talk whenever they just feel like it.
rubberburke 2 years ago
Someone needs to study the rules
daaphne24 2 years ago 3
Good Lord! A constructive suggestion! I nearly fainted!
rubberburke 2 years ago
Either "Triple E" or complete abolition.
This is bullshit.
skynet329 2 years ago
these people are genuises
they get very well paid, are not elected, are never held accountable and can act like children
how do I get that job?
jismjacket 2 years ago 3
and i thought Columbia at UNYCA (mock UN debate) was bad. this is even worst and they're adults....
J24C76 2 years ago