only person's i could think of thats ready to take someone's life is if your A.) a crazy person B.)a person defending their home.C.) working for the military or a police officer because most shoot and ask questions later. Im a gun person my self dont carry a gun just cause you can take a life people kill people guns dont't its a tool your brain controls the trigger
@456Edavis Walking around with an unloaded gun, Might as well paint a target on your back doing that. Only takes a second to load a gun, only takes a second for criminal with a LOADED gun to victimize you. My point had nothing to do with taking someones life, its more that a criminal knows your openly displayed firearm is UNLOADED. Average human can travel 7 yards in something like 2 seconds and knife your throat out.. Look it up, 21 foot rule.
@elesjuan if you say so. most criminals attack the weak targets, if they see a gun on a target, they tend to choose another one. just because you're open carrying doesn't mean you have a ccw or a knife. what criminal wants to attack on purpose someone carrying anything? ok, maybe a meth head or some other junkie, they're stupid. luckily the open carry gun doesn't have to be the only one.
@skks666 You're still refusing to accept the FACT that a criminal KNOWS you're walking around with an unloaded pistol BY LAW. Simply stating that "oh you can load a gun in xxx seconds" is completely useless argument. By the time you've identified a threat it's too late to load the gun! Why do you think police carry loaded guns? Common sense says that someone who is visibly armed isn't a 'safe' target, but that's assuming an assailant uses common sense.
@elesjuan what makes the criminal know anything, you can carry an unloaded gun and still carry a loaded one. you can carry an unloaded gun and still hold a knife, what you don't seem to understand is that criminals go for the easy target, the target carrying the gun isn't one. it's the one that can't defend themselves, the one carrying the gun can obviously defend themselves. it doesn't matter if it's loaded, he can have a knife in store or a ccw too. btw i didn't make that argument.
and then again when i said some states can carry loaded and just cause you carry loaded doesn't mean your ready to take a persons life and in your mind you can say your ready but when it comes down to you may not have it in you.
It only takes a half a second to load your pistol second why would someone with a knife bother robbing a person with a gun death wish im guessing but then again thats just me thinking like any other normal person that wants to live.
@456Edavis Gotchya. That's a pointless way to carry. "Give me your wallet" at knife point. "One second, please allow me to load my gun." Sorry, I don't waste my time reading laws from a state I'll *NEVER* visit. I carry in civilized (lol) states where it's 100% loaded, 100% concealed, cocked locked and ready to rock.
It's Good to protect yourself but with retards walking around U.S. it's dangerous not knowing people bearing arms can snap at any moment. Too much Freedom is Dangerous!!
i go to eat here all the time,i think its really something that you have the balls to walk around with a gun knowing cops now-a-days are more corrupt then ever,we need more people like you to show those cops whats what
Some called the cops to report a man with a gun???? And the cops show up as if a crime has been commited??? I call this harasment from the cops. The dispatcher needs to tell the person reporting a crime that its legal to unloaded open carry in CA.
@BozoTheFightePilotRR OMG...Really? So while your Mom, Sister, Child or anyone for that matter is faced with the POSSIBILITY of a life threatening situation(caller doesn't know the gun is unloaded), you find it reasonable to discuss the legalities of our Constitution with the 911 operator??? Operator "911, what's your emergency?" Caller "A man with a gun just walked in Bank of America" Operator "Well, Ma'am you see...BANG" Caller "hurry, he just shot" WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
@whosyom0mmy Most people dont know they have rights and when they find out they have rights they dont use them now when you use your right it gets you in trouble. knowledge is power this (FREE WORLD) we live in does't want us to have power.
@456Edavis that's one way of looking at it but when people walk around busy communities displaying their unloaded rifle, it's reasonable to assume they meet your above stated criteria(A. a crazy person) of someone ready to take another's life. Did I mention while walking a poodle...? I understand the point you're trying to make but without structure(which you call lack of power), we have anarchy which is only good for chaos. Is that the structure you would want for your own children?
@whosyom0mmy Compare Australia with Switzerland. Compare how much crime there is in both counteries and which is pro-gun and which one is anti-gun. Do your homework. Im totally ok with anyone with a gun walking inside a bank.
i use to live RIGHT next to that wendy's... and btw officer Duran at 2/3/2012 around 11:45 am gave me a court citation for not going to school on one day when it (if had no exact reason) and (i need to be "truant" up to 14-15 days without excuse, to be sent to court) (it was my first time not going to the new school :/ [same day 2/3/2012] upland high} HE IS A *FUCKING PRICK!!! (i missed school to see my brother, never get to see him: ;(...) i feel sorry for you and all others man,!!!!
Its great that you exercise your right as I do, HOWEVER, try not to be so nervous, it makes them nervous, dont tell them not to follow you, that makes them suspicious, dont act SNOODY like its your right and not theirs to take. Cooperate with the officers in blue, most of them are good, and would be happy to see you on your way. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with them approaching you to see if your chamber is clear, and your weapon safe. I like them to do the same to me. It keeps us safe.
People like you make it hard on the rest of us. I have a CCW, I carry every day. When an officer asks to see my ccw I show it. If I am open carry and an officer happens to ask me questions I do not mind and answer the questions. Open carry in California is just asking to be questioned. Open carry with an unloaded weapon/gun is just plain stupid.
@realworldguninfo Agreed 100%. We don't have any type of open or concealed carry here in Canada (although the law permits concealed carry, nobody can get the permit) but if I did have this permit, I would have no problem talking to LEO's to confirm I am licenced. Or leave PRIVATE PROPERTY where the owner has asked you to leave because you have made his customers uncomfortable.
@realworldguninfo That is a good saying. I'd like to just point out that I am not "anti-gun" or anything like that. I target shoot and make sure when going to the range I have all documentation ready to present to an LEO if requested. Because it is illegal to have a firearm without a licence + registration + transport permit for certain weapons ... they rightfully can and do ask to see this documents.
@realworldguninfo actually, we need more patriots like this gentleman. we don't need additional spineless noodles. the only stupidity i see at the moment is your comment.
All this trouble for an unloaded gun? I'm a carpenter and I carry a hammer, a 10 inch long screwdriver assorted knives. I'm more dangerous than this guy. Why don't you carry a hammer instead, its more useful than an unloaded gun. You're just a victim waiting to happen.
I am way pro gun and have a lot of them, but YOU pulling this crap will ruin it for all of us. Knock off your crap and get a clue and don't draw attention to yourself. Total lack of common sense.
@themujasuck he is exercising his rights. exercising your rights is never is a lack of common sense. common sense says if you don't exercise your rights they will disappear. we all need to check our common sense quotient from time to time.
You nearly had a nervous breakdown during a low intensity encounter with LEOs doing their job in response to your attention seeking gimmick. How would you react to an armed assailant attacking you?
can you sue the wendy's since they kicked you out for no just cause? I know you have the right to refuse business but I personally think you're getting harassed for being a black man with a gun. you gave them money for food, never broke the law in any way, but because your appearance made other customers uncomfortable you had to leave? that is just horrible. the manager should be ashamed and so should the police. law enforcement needs to focus on LAW enforcement....
I really wonder how does one enforce the law if he or she does not understand or even know the law. Maybe better to use lawyers as law enforcement, at least they kinda know what they are doing.
LOL!! this guy is such a D-BAG! and this is exactly the kind of S*** that got OC of hanguns banned. Way to go "brother" you showed them! If you want to get your panties all wet carrying a gun 1. move somewhere where its legal 2. Join the military/police force 3. help fight legislation in the court room not by confronting CIV's and LEO's on the street and acting like a D***. I actually work in the gun industry in CA I know the laws suck but seriously dont make them worse by acting like an ass.
i also find it funny how ontario pd responds to this, yet when i have to physically detain a patron who assaulted one of my employees, it took 20 minutes for a single cop to show up... even with a police station in the mall... guess maybe the service was slow at krispy kreme...
welp, looks as though i wont be eating at wendy's anymore. sadly im a manager at a movie theatre in ontario, and i would not be allowed to let you open carry in my building, even though i wish i could open carry myself, haha.
"When only cops have guns, it's called a 'police state'. "
-- Claire Wolfe
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. "
-Thomas Jefferson
Remember people, the constitution was created to rebel against a tyrant government. Read the Declaration of Independence.
Don't OC within 1000' of a K-12 school or in a govn't building.Loaded mags or speedloaders visable on the belt.The Mag is considered part of the gun.Loose rounds in your pocket are OK.Unloaded unless where discharge is legal. Have a CREDITABLE witness with a camera.Know the law and don't OC just to make a public appearance.It's because of this that as of Jan 1st, 2012,We CANNOT OC anymore. Maybe in 5 yrs we can get a LTC.But that doesn't help us NOW.
It is because of asshole politicians and pigs that Californians won't be able to open carry unloaded handguns next year. We can add assholes and idiots of the second amendment foundation (SAF), assholes at the national rifle association (NRA), and assholes of the calguns foundation (CGF) and calguns.net (CGN) that think Californians should not open carry, but beg permission to carry a gun. Those "gun rights" groups are begging for the conversion of a right to a privilege.
@toptruckracer You call LE pigs until your house is bugularized or someone breaks into your car, rapes you girlfriend, or 3 jerks mug you and beat you to a pulp. Then you cry to them for help. Thought you had more sense on our CG conversations. Do you have the balls to do their job? Tell mothers that their kid has been killed in a car crash after putting a 14 yr old girl in a body bag?. You call them pigs? Ignorant decision.
@toptruckracer No it is NOT. Pro gun groups were behind this measure. I've OC'd under the radar for years and since the news coverage of Starbucks, Now I cannot. Got the clue??? Don't make stupid excuses. Blaming pro gun groups??? OMFK'n G...
PS. Glad Y.T. deleted your FU comments before I could respond. If you said this to my face, You would have a boot permantely inserted in your mouth. See you at the range. Saturday's right?
@toptruckracer You should be a politician. Twisting words to your agenda. Just what gunners need, Another 2 faced moron trying to reconcile so he feels good while ignoring the true facts of government. Sooo wrong.... Again...
didnt see any littering....just a bunch of idiots in uniform enforcing unconstitutional searches and invasion of privacy....stop electing these liberal yahoos in california...cmon people
@yvettelisa26 Didn't see him flip the cup out the window onto the ground out of spite at the end of the vid? Look again. Listen closely. It hit the pavement, Not the truck bed as he said. Note the angle the cup was tossed. Down. NOT back. I drive a truck and toss cans in the bed. This is a lie on the OP's part. By the way. Police officers are NOT elected and this search was a 12031. LEGAL!
@toptruckracer But it is still enforced and we can go to jail if there is a bullet in the chamber or in a mag attatched to the weapon, right? You are grasping at straws here. Weather to obey the law until it is changed or don't drop the soap in a prison shower. That is your decision.
@toptruckracer Tell this to the DA...Good luck.Until PROVEN unconstutional in supreme court.We are Fked. Understand?Or do you insist upon living in a perfect, dreamworld? I am on your side.But you seem to be living a Ca fantasy.I did once upon a time, too.Thinking our legislature is fair and doesn't answer to the majority of soccer moms,fags,and flower sniffers.The sooner you realize the facts, The sooner you can help us regain our freedoms.You argument has NO basis in fact.
Hacopien has filed a federal lawsuit. I have filed federal lawsuit. If it wasn't for assholes like you, politicians, alan gura, and "gun rights groups" 2A would already be recognized.
@toptruckracer What? BS! Alan Gura? Now I know you are full of SH*T and your eyes are turning brown. What is the suit supposedly filed? Give me a number. HERE! Liar.
@ceresbike Who? I have a Ca neutered AR built on a Territorial Gunsmith lower with a 1.5 lb Jard trigger and speedhammer under a Bushy 16" upper with a Knights armorment handguard with a ARMS shilouette front sight. Carry handle or scope optional. A 1978 Romi guard AK homebuild with Bulgi stock, A Keltec SU-16 for use with my preban hicaps, A 1911, .45 Colt, 2, 22 mag revolvers, 2, 12 Ga pumps, and more in the safe I have forgotton about since 1979. You???
Hey hows it going? I was there at wendys when all this unrolled, it was crazy. Ive seen you before and I know youve seen me before, we once crossed paths and said whats up at each other. Its great what you do and i think only the brave surpass.
Tool... STFU and let the LEO talk. Interrupting them and obstructing the investigation by you being such a tool is more than enough for a disorderly conduct / obstruction charge. If you're going to "plead the 5th" then do so and SHUT UP. But your lisp is hilarious.
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The owner HAS the RIGHT to say yes or no in his place of businness. You should know this. You're NOT helping by OC of an long gun. Just the opposite! Showboaters are the reason OC of handguns was made illegal and signed into law. Get A clue. By the way, Did you know there is a $1000 fine for littering and the evidence in on this video???
@diginit3 <-------- Wanna be cop.The manager is not the owner. No long gun. Cop was in the lot when I parked. And I put the soda cup in my bed of the truck.
Even the manager is in charge and has the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime for any reason.No long gun?WTF is an AR??? A BB gun?? You got our of your truck and slinged an AR with a cop in the parking lot? You were looking for trouble. You found it and then bi*ched about it.People like you are the reason I cannot OC my 1911 after the 1st of next year. I suppose you had to call the police yourself in your other vids.You expect me to applaud your attention getting spectical?
@diginit3 And the sound of the cup hitting the ground is different from hitting a truck bed. Even the angle is wrong. Better luck fooling people next time. Thanks for FKing 50,000 OC'ers out of our right to OC.
@diginit3 You're an imbecile. You're saying the open carry of long guns is the reason why the open carry of pistols was banned? And now you are the litter police as well? He complied with the manager's request to leave, as stupid as it may be.
@1775novten.You can't understand I was talking about? Intelligent people know who the idiots are that got OC of a handgun banned and also know that the same idiots will get OC of longuns banned.Sounds like you are helping to get ALL guns banned. Thanks.
PS.If he refused to leave when asked in the presence of an officer,He would have been cited for tresspassing. And you call me names when you don't have a clue?You are a total idiot and I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
@diginit3 My apologies for the name, it wasn't necessary or appropriate. I do realize that if he didn't leave when requested to do so that he could be arrested for trespassing - thankfully he left. However, I've always been under the notion that if you don't use your rights, then you will lose them. I don't see a problem in exercising your rights. If you're saying people shouldn't OC, so they don't ban it - then what's the difference of not doing it or banning it? Either way you aren't doing it.
@1775novten. Accepted. You are smarter than I assumed.The trick is practice our rights without alarming the soccer moms,antis', and media influenced cowards.I've OC'ed for years.Loaded where legal even in my truck.In Ca!No problems.Shot with Rangers and Sheriff's.Demonstrated Tannerite for them also. Cops are doing a job. Not the problem. OCer's that call 911 on themselves to gain recognition are.They are bringing OC to the attention of the wrong people with influence upon our government.
@diginit3 I see what you are saying. To be honest I think the attention is gained by the camera and then people notice the gun. So you've never been stopped and hassled or had an officer perform an e-check on your weapon when you were in Cali? I'm from VA and I see open carry often and it never seems to create a stir. Then again the folks I see aren't creating a scene and looking to make a youtube video either. Your point is well made.
@1775novten Nope.Loaded OC where discharge is allowed.Walk into the store or gas station with a 1911. Get back into my Ranger and leave. But OC is not as common here.
I think the attention is made by people making an intentional stir.Actually calling PD on themselves so they can make a video.Or an anti screaming OMG! A GUN! EEK! Neither have any idea what they are actually doing. Now,Starting Jan 1st, I can't OC my handgun anymore.Next year,All rifles will be added due to ignorance.
@diginit3 Well Virginia may be your next option. They have about as lax of gun laws as they come. Not to say that there aren't cops that won't give you a hard time, but they are far fewer.
@diginit3 I do have an opinionated question for you. Do you see a problem with pulling out a camera if you do happen to be approached by the police, the record the interaction just for accountability and transparency? I'm a believer that all encounters with the police should be recorded - not to make a good video, but just for a record of the encounter.
@1775novten There is no expectation of privacy in public and defending yourself against a possibly assinine LEO, IMO, is a good idea.Posting a legid encounter,No problem.Posting 4 or 5 vids because you were a supposed victim of mulitble encounters?Something is wrong...And I need spellcheck...LOL.
Continued: When I offered to surrender a holstered 1911 to a Sheriff and he said to just keep it holstered when he saw the hammer back and knew it was loaded.I knew he knew the law and made the call I was not a criminal. If I walked downtown with my AK W/unloaded 75 rnd drum, AR, or SU-16 with a 30.What do you think would happen?Cops are doing their job according guidelines to keep them alive.I am a stranger with a possible AW.I've practiced my rights for years. Now I can't. WHY???
@diginit3 You're an idiot. By your dumbass logic you're saying we are losing our right to OC because we exercise our right to do so. That makes no sense. Are you Ontario PD because you sound like an idiot like they do. Further, the manager was fine with him until the police coerced him to ask him to leave. Who do you think the "customer" was that called it in?
@diginit3 It was not the owner. Second off, did you see him leave after being asked? Yes.
He states he has OC'ed there before and had no problems. The manager probably asked him to leave because a customer was scared.
You cannot OC without "showboating"... when you OC your gun is out in the open and it's a dice-roll on whether or not you will be harassed, thus you have to "showboat" in regards to defending your right to OC.
Not practicing your rights = you'll eventually lose them. Coward.
@corpralj3 I OC for SD(self defence)Not to make a point.Flaunting my RTC in front of a bunch of soccer moms.Thanks for practicing OC and getting it banned starting Jan 1st.As for being a coward, My profile is public.You are hiding yours.
@corpralj3 By the way, I am diginit at calguns. net, bumpfire. net, AR-15. com, Thereloadersnest. com, campfire. net, Photobucket. com, and others. I write my senators, ect. You? With no real knowledge of the real world and no desire to discover how our govnt. really works and the smart way to win?
@diginit3 You're argument over OC'ing a long rifle makes sense that it may have damaged the right to OC. That's not the point.
The point is that even when you OC a pistol, people are afraid and it causes problems regardless of whether or not it's a rifle.
OCing a rifle, while yes it's not necessary, is about demonstrating your rights. It opens people eyes and both practicing your rights, and opening others eyes to their rights is absolutely necessary in regards to protecting your rights.
@corpralj3 You are missing the point.You need to read all the posts here.Demanding anything from anyone will result in a shut down Human nature.Asking politely will make progress. Example:Kissing a lady goodnight on a first date will get you laid faster than dropping your pants at the front door.Right?Our legislature are women wearing pants. Treat them that way.We may have a chance.And dont call me coward.I OC'd my 1911 with 4 mags on the belt today and will until Jan 1st. You?
@diginit3 And what does the government always do when you "ask politely"? They shut down whatever is being asked.
The government is no longer in place to protect your rights, but more so to figure out ways in which to remove them.
There is no "demand" in regards to OC'ing. OC'ing is a right. When government forcibly removes rights that they have no right to infringe upon, you make demands. If the government isn't polite regarding infringement of rights, why would the right bearers be polite?
@diginit3 And I do understand where your viewpoint comes from, but like I said OC'ing is a right.
The simple fact is that it's infringed upon because barely anyone practices OC'ing, let alone OC'ing long guns.
This is 2011, and everyone is stuck in their own little digital worlds. Guns are a foreign object to a lot of people in this country today which is sad.
Just because some folks are scared of guns doesn't mean OC'ing a long gun is in anyway a negative action towards OC'ing.
@corpralj3 The only reason we lost our right to carry in CA is because of people like you! Too dumb to know when to tone down and wait for the right time. Like the Protesters in SF,NY, Oakland,Etc that are have been arrested,strip searched, booked and fined. HELLO???
Not what I would expect from any decent person or oganization. Shows total lack of mentality. no wonder I can't OC my 1911 anymore. Thanks a FK of alot... Diginit at Calguns.
@BayAreaOpenCarry This statement from a pro gun organization really tans my hide. Makes me happy I did not attend their Starbucks meets. I cannot understand why this statement was made other that total ignorance. A citizen was OC'ing a black rifle, LE was doing their job, No violations were comitted on either side. Just alot of crying. But that's what the OP wanted. A reason to complain. This does NOT help.
wut a lame! put the soda down fat boy and brush up on the laws. if the business dont want you there with a gun you gotta go. Why are you still acting like you got a valid complaint. they detained long enough to check your shit and talk to the guy in charge. and you cry like a baby cuz you get "harrased"? you do it on purpose for the cops to show up and then bitch about it. Its sad I went to war for some loser like you. thanks to idiots like you the next ban is gunna be on long guns!
The point is the man was unlawfully detained. If the management wanted him to leave the cops should have merely asked him to leave. Instead the cops detained and searched the open carrier without RAS or PC of criminal activity. Then they approached the management and compelled the manager to agree that the carrier should leave.
@toptruckracer wrong, open carry in itself is grounds for detention, ask the guy in the video, he will tell you. law enforcement can detain and inspect the weapon. Most people that are familiar with open carry are aware of that, including the guy here. But whatever I dont really care, go make a complaint and see where it gets. I guess you would rather the cops not respond to the call at all.
The exercise of a fundamental right is not subject to a detention without reasonable suspicion of a crime. US v Umbiles, Terry v Ohio, Florida v JL. The problem with checks is that they are illegal searches because there is no RAS that a crime has, is, or will occur. It is an illegal or unconstitutional law.
@HalfCash213187 Yeah, you weren't paying attention. The business didn't care about him one way or the other. The police showed up, used their discretion in enforcing an optional and constitutionally questionable California law to check the status of his weapon, determined it was unloaded, and continued to detain him and harass him. They coerced the manager into asking him to leave. If the police talk a store manager into asking you to leave, how is that not harassment?
@argmanah define what harrasment is and Ill tell you how its not harassment. They got a call there. I'm all for open carry, just not by idiots looking for youtube attention. Its not for protection he just walks around until its time to let the video roll. This clown is the reason people go against the cause. How hard is it to just go with the program? This loser just be a bitch by pleaing the 5th when they are just asking simple questions. This law with common sense will save us, no fatty here.
@toptruckracer .....a seriously flawed analytical reasoner and a hypocrite too, just like you!!! Didn't you do some name calling with your "Fucking pigs" comment? So you're ok with Christopher exercising the 2nd but not cool with HalfCash213187 sporting his 1st??? ...just sayin'! Have a great day and God bless you
@toptruckracer The Fatty comment was uncalled for. The rest were hoping he would get a clue and telling him that the reason for his exploits are transparent.
It's sad to see PD ack like that. Keep up the good work. PD enforces law at there own will. I guess they want Cal like Mexico. Only Cops and criminals have the jobs.
6 OF US OPEN CARRIED AT10PM IN ONTARIO AT THE SAME LOCATION. ONTARIO PD DID NOT HARASS US BECAUSE THEY PREY ON SINGLE PEOPLE WHO OPEN CARRY. THEY ARE COWARDS.
@hacopian5900 are you fuc*ing kidding me...?????? You DO have some big balls!!!! You posted my civil case info.(hence my name AND my Daughters name) directly on a video, which had absolutely nothing to do with the Christopher Hacopian v, City of Upland et al civil case, in an attempt to strengthen an otherwise weak case . That is pure and simple exploitation!!!!!! I have asked you to remove the case info and yet it remains there. Wow, nothing shocks me now, Chris! lol Love thy neighbor anyway!
@stonedpistolero badge bunny? what exactly is that? Are you talking about a male or female who are attracted to a male or female in uniform? So why is that a bad thing? People wearing badges have feelings too.
You are my FUCKING HERO!!!! YOU RULE!!!! : )
isdfgbsdf 23 hours ago
only person's i could think of thats ready to take someone's life is if your A.) a crazy person B.)a person defending their home.C.) working for the military or a police officer because most shoot and ask questions later. Im a gun person my self dont carry a gun just cause you can take a life people kill people guns dont't its a tool your brain controls the trigger
456Edavis 5 days ago
@456Edavis Walking around with an unloaded gun, Might as well paint a target on your back doing that. Only takes a second to load a gun, only takes a second for criminal with a LOADED gun to victimize you. My point had nothing to do with taking someones life, its more that a criminal knows your openly displayed firearm is UNLOADED. Average human can travel 7 yards in something like 2 seconds and knife your throat out.. Look it up, 21 foot rule.
elesjuan 5 days ago
@elesjuan you're less likely to be targeted if you can show you can protect yourself, FACT.
skks666 3 days ago
@skks666 You're wrong, but whatever you want to fool yourself into believing.
elesjuan 3 days ago
@elesjuan if you say so. most criminals attack the weak targets, if they see a gun on a target, they tend to choose another one. just because you're open carrying doesn't mean you have a ccw or a knife. what criminal wants to attack on purpose someone carrying anything? ok, maybe a meth head or some other junkie, they're stupid. luckily the open carry gun doesn't have to be the only one.
skks666 3 days ago
@skks666 You're still refusing to accept the FACT that a criminal KNOWS you're walking around with an unloaded pistol BY LAW. Simply stating that "oh you can load a gun in xxx seconds" is completely useless argument. By the time you've identified a threat it's too late to load the gun! Why do you think police carry loaded guns? Common sense says that someone who is visibly armed isn't a 'safe' target, but that's assuming an assailant uses common sense.
elesjuan 3 days ago
@elesjuan what makes the criminal know anything, you can carry an unloaded gun and still carry a loaded one. you can carry an unloaded gun and still hold a knife, what you don't seem to understand is that criminals go for the easy target, the target carrying the gun isn't one. it's the one that can't defend themselves, the one carrying the gun can obviously defend themselves. it doesn't matter if it's loaded, he can have a knife in store or a ccw too. btw i didn't make that argument.
skks666 2 days ago
and then again when i said some states can carry loaded and just cause you carry loaded doesn't mean your ready to take a persons life and in your mind you can say your ready but when it comes down to you may not have it in you.
456Edavis 5 days ago
It only takes a half a second to load your pistol second why would someone with a knife bother robbing a person with a gun death wish im guessing but then again thats just me thinking like any other normal person that wants to live.
456Edavis 5 days ago
I'm a gun guy so I get the 2nd amendment. What I don't understand is why walk around with an unloaded gun and no ammo? I don't get it.
elesjuan 1 week ago
@elesjuan you can have ammo on your person but it can't be in the pistol. Read knowlege is power.
456Edavis 5 days ago
@456Edavis Gotchya. That's a pointless way to carry. "Give me your wallet" at knife point. "One second, please allow me to load my gun." Sorry, I don't waste my time reading laws from a state I'll *NEVER* visit. I carry in civilized (lol) states where it's 100% loaded, 100% concealed, cocked locked and ready to rock.
elesjuan 5 days ago
fuckin cops like that give the rest bad names cause ive known a shitload of good cops or maybe its where i live.
bigchevyguy100 1 week ago
the police used to watch over the people, now they watch the people...
-Charles Manson
mauser1488 1 week ago
Dick manager
Camperman2 1 week ago
It's Good to protect yourself but with retards walking around U.S. it's dangerous not knowing people bearing arms can snap at any moment. Too much Freedom is Dangerous!!
ulan4901 1 week ago
Fucking douchebags
skateblklabel 2 weeks ago
i go to eat here all the time,i think its really something that you have the balls to walk around with a gun knowing cops now-a-days are more corrupt then ever,we need more people like you to show those cops whats what
damnation999666 2 weeks ago
look at that a mexican telling a white man where he cant eat ha boycott wendys for this ! we are in usa why didnt they check the managers green card
MrJonny0004 2 weeks ago
@MrJonny0004 Open Carry ISN'T a racial issue. You're ignorant!!!
whosyom0mmy 6 days ago
Some called the cops to report a man with a gun???? And the cops show up as if a crime has been commited??? I call this harasment from the cops. The dispatcher needs to tell the person reporting a crime that its legal to unloaded open carry in CA.
BozoTheFightePilotRR 3 weeks ago
@BozoTheFightePilotRR OMG...Really? So while your Mom, Sister, Child or anyone for that matter is faced with the POSSIBILITY of a life threatening situation(caller doesn't know the gun is unloaded), you find it reasonable to discuss the legalities of our Constitution with the 911 operator??? Operator "911, what's your emergency?" Caller "A man with a gun just walked in Bank of America" Operator "Well, Ma'am you see...BANG" Caller "hurry, he just shot" WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
whosyom0mmy 6 days ago
@whosyom0mmy Most people dont know they have rights and when they find out they have rights they dont use them now when you use your right it gets you in trouble. knowledge is power this (FREE WORLD) we live in does't want us to have power.
456Edavis 5 days ago
@456Edavis that's one way of looking at it but when people walk around busy communities displaying their unloaded rifle, it's reasonable to assume they meet your above stated criteria(A. a crazy person) of someone ready to take another's life. Did I mention while walking a poodle...? I understand the point you're trying to make but without structure(which you call lack of power), we have anarchy which is only good for chaos. Is that the structure you would want for your own children?
whosyom0mmy 5 days ago
@whosyom0mmy Compare Australia with Switzerland. Compare how much crime there is in both counteries and which is pro-gun and which one is anti-gun. Do your homework. Im totally ok with anyone with a gun walking inside a bank.
BozoTheFightePilotRR 4 days ago
so whatever happend? did you follow through with pressing charges?
likeitornot84 1 month ago
i use to live RIGHT next to that wendy's... and btw officer Duran at 2/3/2012 around 11:45 am gave me a court citation for not going to school on one day when it (if had no exact reason) and (i need to be "truant" up to 14-15 days without excuse, to be sent to court) (it was my first time not going to the new school :/ [same day 2/3/2012] upland high} HE IS A *FUCKING PRICK!!! (i missed school to see my brother, never get to see him: ;(...) i feel sorry for you and all others man,!!!!
nickthepick120 1 month ago
What a stupid fuck!
big92fs 1 month ago
Its great that you exercise your right as I do, HOWEVER, try not to be so nervous, it makes them nervous, dont tell them not to follow you, that makes them suspicious, dont act SNOODY like its your right and not theirs to take. Cooperate with the officers in blue, most of them are good, and would be happy to see you on your way. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with them approaching you to see if your chamber is clear, and your weapon safe. I like them to do the same to me. It keeps us safe.
SARGENTSCRUFY 1 month ago
Notice how the pigs COERCED the store manager into asking him to leave. The manager obviously knew the man and realized he's not a threat.
v3ck1n 1 month ago
whats with the pig pile for some guy with a gun at wendys......damn man i feel for you man
rocky66 1 month ago
so i guess some employees of the ontario goon squad are stupider the others.
roaringwaterbay 1 month ago
@roaringwaterbay than others
roaringwaterbay 1 month ago
@roaringwaterbay "stupider"? It's more stupid, stupid! haha
whosyom0mmy 1 month ago
People like you make it hard on the rest of us. I have a CCW, I carry every day. When an officer asks to see my ccw I show it. If I am open carry and an officer happens to ask me questions I do not mind and answer the questions. Open carry in California is just asking to be questioned. Open carry with an unloaded weapon/gun is just plain stupid.
realworldguninfo 1 month ago
@realworldguninfo Agreed 100%. We don't have any type of open or concealed carry here in Canada (although the law permits concealed carry, nobody can get the permit) but if I did have this permit, I would have no problem talking to LEO's to confirm I am licenced. Or leave PRIVATE PROPERTY where the owner has asked you to leave because you have made his customers uncomfortable.
snakeshat12 1 month ago
@snakeshat12 Thank you for your well thought out reply.
I have a saying I pass on to all I teach how to shoot.
It may be your right, but it does not make it right.
Like this guy in the video, he has a legal right to open carry, BUT it does not always make it right to do so-----
realworldguninfo 1 month ago
@realworldguninfo That is a good saying. I'd like to just point out that I am not "anti-gun" or anything like that. I target shoot and make sure when going to the range I have all documentation ready to present to an LEO if requested. Because it is illegal to have a firearm without a licence + registration + transport permit for certain weapons ... they rightfully can and do ask to see this documents.
snakeshat12 1 month ago
@realworldguninfo actually, we need more patriots like this gentleman. we don't need additional spineless noodles. the only stupidity i see at the moment is your comment.
roaringwaterbay 1 month ago 2
@roaringwaterbay brilliant
safenders 1 month ago
All this trouble for an unloaded gun? I'm a carpenter and I carry a hammer, a 10 inch long screwdriver assorted knives. I'm more dangerous than this guy. Why don't you carry a hammer instead, its more useful than an unloaded gun. You're just a victim waiting to happen.
BullyChicken 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
I am way pro gun and have a lot of them, but YOU pulling this crap will ruin it for all of us. Knock off your crap and get a clue and don't draw attention to yourself. Total lack of common sense.
themujasuck 1 month ago
@themujasuck he is exercising his rights. exercising your rights is never is a lack of common sense. common sense says if you don't exercise your rights they will disappear. we all need to check our common sense quotient from time to time.
roaringwaterbay 1 month ago 3
You nearly had a nervous breakdown during a low intensity encounter with LEOs doing their job in response to your attention seeking gimmick. How would you react to an armed assailant attacking you?
3stanthony 1 month ago
We're you about to cry Bro? You need to talk to a lawyer about suing them for harassment of law abiding Fag such as yourself.
BullyChicken 1 month ago
can you sue the wendy's since they kicked you out for no just cause? I know you have the right to refuse business but I personally think you're getting harassed for being a black man with a gun. you gave them money for food, never broke the law in any way, but because your appearance made other customers uncomfortable you had to leave? that is just horrible. the manager should be ashamed and so should the police. law enforcement needs to focus on LAW enforcement....
soulReBeL42zero 1 month ago
I really wonder how does one enforce the law if he or she does not understand or even know the law. Maybe better to use lawyers as law enforcement, at least they kinda know what they are doing.
mashimarozx 1 month ago
@mashimarozx excellent idea.
roaringwaterbay 1 month ago
Dumb Cops,Dumb Cops,whatcha gonna do,whatcha gonna do when they harass you?,
RottSimba 2 months ago
by the way he said "9-er" lol!!
yuks714 2 months ago
LOL!! this guy is such a D-BAG! and this is exactly the kind of S*** that got OC of hanguns banned. Way to go "brother" you showed them! If you want to get your panties all wet carrying a gun 1. move somewhere where its legal 2. Join the military/police force 3. help fight legislation in the court room not by confronting CIV's and LEO's on the street and acting like a D***. I actually work in the gun industry in CA I know the laws suck but seriously dont make them worse by acting like an ass.
yuks714 2 months ago 2
WOOT this dude's got balls!! He don't pussy foot around just tells em like it is haha!
damiion666 2 months ago
that is your right as a american and they are harassing you i would press charges, there just on a power trip
willisclimb123 2 months ago
3:44 There's you're problem... why in the world would you be eating at a friggen Wendy's when there's an IN-N-OUT across the street!?!?!?
gonesurfyn 2 months ago 17
@gonesurfyn why would he take the chance to eat at an in-n-out and get kicked out they have some of the bes burgers:)
icemanjj27 2 months ago
@icemanjj27 you mean wendys lol
SamuelSavage777 2 months ago
@gonesurfyn An In-N-Out Burger joint is being build just down the street from me here in Texas.
BozoTheFightePilotRR 3 weeks ago
@BozoTheFightePilotRR want a cookie
MrJonny0004 2 weeks ago
@MrJonny0004 No. I want a Big Mac! :)
BozoTheFightePilotRR 2 weeks ago
@BozoTheFightePilotRR lmfao :0
MrJonny0004 2 weeks ago
@gonesurfyn YEAH RIGHT?!?!?!
damnation999666 2 weeks ago
i also find it funny how ontario pd responds to this, yet when i have to physically detain a patron who assaulted one of my employees, it took 20 minutes for a single cop to show up... even with a police station in the mall... guess maybe the service was slow at krispy kreme...
jerfy2001 2 months ago
welp, looks as though i wont be eating at wendy's anymore. sadly im a manager at a movie theatre in ontario, and i would not be allowed to let you open carry in my building, even though i wish i could open carry myself, haha.
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ed2276 2 months ago
can someone tell me what anyone said after 3:30 - 4:00 please?
Kindomization 2 months ago
"When only cops have guns, it's called a 'police state'. "
-- Claire Wolfe
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. "
-Thomas Jefferson
Remember people, the constitution was created to rebel against a tyrant government. Read the Declaration of Independence.
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justcallmeskippy 2 months ago
i like his pre-emtive 5th and dont consent to searches, well played
obamasucksdick99 3 months ago
is your phone on a lanyard around your neck?
EquipaPatriot 3 months ago
I have a ? I dont practice this because I am uneasy about being in a "red zone" . How do you make sure about that when you make the videos?
OneNtheChamber310 3 months ago
@OneNtheChamber310
Don't OC within 1000' of a K-12 school or in a govn't building.Loaded mags or speedloaders visable on the belt.The Mag is considered part of the gun.Loose rounds in your pocket are OK.Unloaded unless where discharge is legal. Have a CREDITABLE witness with a camera.Know the law and don't OC just to make a public appearance.It's because of this that as of Jan 1st, 2012,We CANNOT OC anymore. Maybe in 5 yrs we can get a LTC.But that doesn't help us NOW.
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3
It is because of asshole politicians and pigs that Californians won't be able to open carry unloaded handguns next year. We can add assholes and idiots of the second amendment foundation (SAF), assholes at the national rifle association (NRA), and assholes of the calguns foundation (CGF) and calguns.net (CGN) that think Californians should not open carry, but beg permission to carry a gun. Those "gun rights" groups are begging for the conversion of a right to a privilege.
toptruckracer 3 months ago
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diginit3 3 months ago
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@toptruckracer You call LE pigs until your house is bugularized or someone breaks into your car, rapes you girlfriend, or 3 jerks mug you and beat you to a pulp. Then you cry to them for help. Thought you had more sense on our CG conversations. Do you have the balls to do their job? Tell mothers that their kid has been killed in a car crash after putting a 14 yr old girl in a body bag?. You call them pigs? Ignorant decision.
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3
They are pigs, and last I checked pigs had no duty to protect me or anyone else.
toptruckracer 3 months ago
@diginit3 I second that! Unfortunately, you can't educate an irrational thinker!
whosyom0mmy 3 months ago
@toptruckracer No it is NOT. Pro gun groups were behind this measure. I've OC'd under the radar for years and since the news coverage of Starbucks, Now I cannot. Got the clue??? Don't make stupid excuses. Blaming pro gun groups??? OMFK'n G...
PS. Glad Y.T. deleted your FU comments before I could respond. If you said this to my face, You would have a boot permantely inserted in your mouth. See you at the range. Saturday's right?
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3
Just as you stated, "Pro gun groups were behind this measure."
toptruckracer 3 months ago
@toptruckracer You should be a politician. Twisting words to your agenda. Just what gunners need, Another 2 faced moron trying to reconcile so he feels good while ignoring the true facts of government. Sooo wrong.... Again...
diginit3 3 months ago
Good job on surviving summary judgment in your 1893 lawsuit.
toptruckracer 3 months ago
didnt see any littering....just a bunch of idiots in uniform enforcing unconstitutional searches and invasion of privacy....stop electing these liberal yahoos in california...cmon people
yvettelisa26 3 months ago
@yvettelisa26 Didn't see him flip the cup out the window onto the ground out of spite at the end of the vid? Look again. Listen closely. It hit the pavement, Not the truck bed as he said. Note the angle the cup was tossed. Down. NOT back. I drive a truck and toss cans in the bed. This is a lie on the OP's part. By the way. Police officers are NOT elected and this search was a 12031. LEGAL!
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3
12031(e) is an illegal law. Therefore, the enforcement of it is illegal.
toptruckracer 3 months ago
@toptruckracer But it is still enforced and we can go to jail if there is a bullet in the chamber or in a mag attatched to the weapon, right? You are grasping at straws here. Weather to obey the law until it is changed or don't drop the soap in a prison shower. That is your decision.
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3
Unconstitutional law is invalid from it's inception. Unconstitutional law being 12031(e).
toptruckracer 3 months ago
@toptruckracer Tell this to the DA...Good luck.Until PROVEN unconstutional in supreme court.We are Fked. Understand?Or do you insist upon living in a perfect, dreamworld? I am on your side.But you seem to be living a Ca fantasy.I did once upon a time, too.Thinking our legislature is fair and doesn't answer to the majority of soccer moms,fags,and flower sniffers.The sooner you realize the facts, The sooner you can help us regain our freedoms.You argument has NO basis in fact.
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3
Hacopien has filed a federal lawsuit. I have filed federal lawsuit. If it wasn't for assholes like you, politicians, alan gura, and "gun rights groups" 2A would already be recognized.
toptruckracer 3 months ago
@toptruckracer What? BS! Alan Gura? Now I know you are full of SH*T and your eyes are turning brown. What is the suit supposedly filed? Give me a number. HERE! Liar.
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3
You're a real dumbass if you can't figure that one out.
toptruckracer 3 months ago
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@toptruckracer You are a liar if you can't give me a case number...
diginit3 3 months ago
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You can email me at diginit03@gmail.com.I would love to read the opening comments.
diginit3 3 months ago
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diginit3 3 months ago
Where did you go???You where here a minute ago?
diginit3 3 months ago
what gun do u have?
ceresbike 4 months ago
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diginit3 3 months ago
@ceresbike Who? I have a Ca neutered AR built on a Territorial Gunsmith lower with a 1.5 lb Jard trigger and speedhammer under a Bushy 16" upper with a Knights armorment handguard with a ARMS shilouette front sight. Carry handle or scope optional. A 1978 Romi guard AK homebuild with Bulgi stock, A Keltec SU-16 for use with my preban hicaps, A 1911, .45 Colt, 2, 22 mag revolvers, 2, 12 Ga pumps, and more in the safe I have forgotton about since 1979. You???
diginit3 3 months ago
did you really just say niner???
djwick50 4 months ago
haha, "I didn't ask you any questions now did I?"
well you did now didn't you?
Timisso1337 4 months ago
Hey hows it going? I was there at wendys when all this unrolled, it was crazy. Ive seen you before and I know youve seen me before, we once crossed paths and said whats up at each other. Its great what you do and i think only the brave surpass.
jordopancho 4 months ago
Tool... STFU and let the LEO talk. Interrupting them and obstructing the investigation by you being such a tool is more than enough for a disorderly conduct / obstruction charge. If you're going to "plead the 5th" then do so and SHUT UP. But your lisp is hilarious.
UGApballer 4 months ago
@UGApballer ROLMAO
whosyom0mmy 4 months ago
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The owner HAS the RIGHT to say yes or no in his place of businness. You should know this. You're NOT helping by OC of an long gun. Just the opposite! Showboaters are the reason OC of handguns was made illegal and signed into law. Get A clue. By the way, Did you know there is a $1000 fine for littering and the evidence in on this video???
diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3 <-------- Wanna be cop.The manager is not the owner. No long gun. Cop was in the lot when I parked. And I put the soda cup in my bed of the truck.
hacopian5900 4 months ago 2
Even the manager is in charge and has the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime for any reason.No long gun?WTF is an AR??? A BB gun?? You got our of your truck and slinged an AR with a cop in the parking lot? You were looking for trouble. You found it and then bi*ched about it.People like you are the reason I cannot OC my 1911 after the 1st of next year. I suppose you had to call the police yourself in your other vids.You expect me to applaud your attention getting spectical?
diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3 And the sound of the cup hitting the ground is different from hitting a truck bed. Even the angle is wrong. Better luck fooling people next time. Thanks for FKing 50,000 OC'ers out of our right to OC.
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diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3 You're an imbecile. You're saying the open carry of long guns is the reason why the open carry of pistols was banned? And now you are the litter police as well? He complied with the manager's request to leave, as stupid as it may be.
1775novten 4 months ago
@1775novten.You can't understand I was talking about? Intelligent people know who the idiots are that got OC of a handgun banned and also know that the same idiots will get OC of longuns banned.Sounds like you are helping to get ALL guns banned. Thanks.
PS.If he refused to leave when asked in the presence of an officer,He would have been cited for tresspassing. And you call me names when you don't have a clue?You are a total idiot and I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3 My apologies for the name, it wasn't necessary or appropriate. I do realize that if he didn't leave when requested to do so that he could be arrested for trespassing - thankfully he left. However, I've always been under the notion that if you don't use your rights, then you will lose them. I don't see a problem in exercising your rights. If you're saying people shouldn't OC, so they don't ban it - then what's the difference of not doing it or banning it? Either way you aren't doing it.
1775novten 4 months ago
@1775novten. Accepted. You are smarter than I assumed.The trick is practice our rights without alarming the soccer moms,antis', and media influenced cowards.I've OC'ed for years.Loaded where legal even in my truck.In Ca!No problems.Shot with Rangers and Sheriff's.Demonstrated Tannerite for them also. Cops are doing a job. Not the problem. OCer's that call 911 on themselves to gain recognition are.They are bringing OC to the attention of the wrong people with influence upon our government.
diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3 I see what you are saying. To be honest I think the attention is gained by the camera and then people notice the gun. So you've never been stopped and hassled or had an officer perform an e-check on your weapon when you were in Cali? I'm from VA and I see open carry often and it never seems to create a stir. Then again the folks I see aren't creating a scene and looking to make a youtube video either. Your point is well made.
1775novten 4 months ago
@1775novten Nope.Loaded OC where discharge is allowed.Walk into the store or gas station with a 1911. Get back into my Ranger and leave. But OC is not as common here.
I think the attention is made by people making an intentional stir.Actually calling PD on themselves so they can make a video.Or an anti screaming OMG! A GUN! EEK! Neither have any idea what they are actually doing. Now,Starting Jan 1st, I can't OC my handgun anymore.Next year,All rifles will be added due to ignorance.
diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3 Well Virginia may be your next option. They have about as lax of gun laws as they come. Not to say that there aren't cops that won't give you a hard time, but they are far fewer.
1775novten 4 months ago
@diginit3
Actually, Charles Nichols has filed a federal lawsuit that will overturn, as unconstitutional, the open carry handgun ban.
toptruckracer 3 months ago
@diginit3 I do have an opinionated question for you. Do you see a problem with pulling out a camera if you do happen to be approached by the police, the record the interaction just for accountability and transparency? I'm a believer that all encounters with the police should be recorded - not to make a good video, but just for a record of the encounter.
1775novten 4 months ago
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diginit3 4 months ago
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@1775novten There is no expectation of privacy in public and defending yourself against a possibly assinine LEO, IMO, is a good idea.Posting a legid encounter,No problem.Posting 4 or 5 vids because you were a supposed victim of mulitble encounters?Something is wrong...And I need spellcheck...LOL.
diginit3 4 months ago
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diginit3 4 months ago
Continued: When I offered to surrender a holstered 1911 to a Sheriff and he said to just keep it holstered when he saw the hammer back and knew it was loaded.I knew he knew the law and made the call I was not a criminal. If I walked downtown with my AK W/unloaded 75 rnd drum, AR, or SU-16 with a 30.What do you think would happen?Cops are doing their job according guidelines to keep them alive.I am a stranger with a possible AW.I've practiced my rights for years. Now I can't. WHY???
diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3 You're an idiot. By your dumbass logic you're saying we are losing our right to OC because we exercise our right to do so. That makes no sense. Are you Ontario PD because you sound like an idiot like they do. Further, the manager was fine with him until the police coerced him to ask him to leave. Who do you think the "customer" was that called it in?
seventi6 4 months ago
@diginit3 It was not the owner. Second off, did you see him leave after being asked? Yes.
He states he has OC'ed there before and had no problems. The manager probably asked him to leave because a customer was scared.
You cannot OC without "showboating"... when you OC your gun is out in the open and it's a dice-roll on whether or not you will be harassed, thus you have to "showboat" in regards to defending your right to OC.
Not practicing your rights = you'll eventually lose them. Coward.
corpralj3 3 months ago
@corpralj3 Coward? You an idiot I've OC'ed for years. And never been noticed.
diginit3 3 months ago
@corpralj3 I OC for SD(self defence)Not to make a point.Flaunting my RTC in front of a bunch of soccer moms.Thanks for practicing OC and getting it banned starting Jan 1st.As for being a coward, My profile is public.You are hiding yours.
diginit3 3 months ago
@corpralj3 By the way, I am diginit at calguns. net, bumpfire. net, AR-15. com, Thereloadersnest. com, campfire. net, Photobucket. com, and others. I write my senators, ect. You? With no real knowledge of the real world and no desire to discover how our govnt. really works and the smart way to win?
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3 You're argument over OC'ing a long rifle makes sense that it may have damaged the right to OC. That's not the point.
The point is that even when you OC a pistol, people are afraid and it causes problems regardless of whether or not it's a rifle.
OCing a rifle, while yes it's not necessary, is about demonstrating your rights. It opens people eyes and both practicing your rights, and opening others eyes to their rights is absolutely necessary in regards to protecting your rights.
corpralj3 3 months ago
@corpralj3 You are missing the point.You need to read all the posts here.Demanding anything from anyone will result in a shut down Human nature.Asking politely will make progress. Example:Kissing a lady goodnight on a first date will get you laid faster than dropping your pants at the front door.Right?Our legislature are women wearing pants. Treat them that way.We may have a chance.And dont call me coward.I OC'd my 1911 with 4 mags on the belt today and will until Jan 1st. You?
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3 And what does the government always do when you "ask politely"? They shut down whatever is being asked.
The government is no longer in place to protect your rights, but more so to figure out ways in which to remove them.
There is no "demand" in regards to OC'ing. OC'ing is a right. When government forcibly removes rights that they have no right to infringe upon, you make demands. If the government isn't polite regarding infringement of rights, why would the right bearers be polite?
corpralj3 3 months ago
@diginit3 And I do understand where your viewpoint comes from, but like I said OC'ing is a right.
The simple fact is that it's infringed upon because barely anyone practices OC'ing, let alone OC'ing long guns.
This is 2011, and everyone is stuck in their own little digital worlds. Guns are a foreign object to a lot of people in this country today which is sad.
Just because some folks are scared of guns doesn't mean OC'ing a long gun is in anyway a negative action towards OC'ing.
corpralj3 3 months ago
@corpralj3 The only reason we lost our right to carry in CA is because of people like you! Too dumb to know when to tone down and wait for the right time. Like the Protesters in SF,NY, Oakland,Etc that are have been arrested,strip searched, booked and fined. HELLO???
diginit3 3 months ago
I have one simple statement to make: "Fuck The Pigs!"
BayAreaOpenCarry 4 months ago
@BayAreaOpenCarry
Not what I would expect from any decent person or oganization. Shows total lack of mentality. no wonder I can't OC my 1911 anymore. Thanks a FK of alot... Diginit at Calguns.
diginit3 4 months ago
@diginit3
Fuck the pigs and you too!
toptruckracer 3 months ago
@BayAreaOpenCarry This statement from a pro gun organization really tans my hide. Makes me happy I did not attend their Starbucks meets. I cannot understand why this statement was made other that total ignorance. A citizen was OC'ing a black rifle, LE was doing their job, No violations were comitted on either side. Just alot of crying. But that's what the OP wanted. A reason to complain. This does NOT help.
diginit3 3 months ago
wut a lame! put the soda down fat boy and brush up on the laws. if the business dont want you there with a gun you gotta go. Why are you still acting like you got a valid complaint. they detained long enough to check your shit and talk to the guy in charge. and you cry like a baby cuz you get "harrased"? you do it on purpose for the cops to show up and then bitch about it. Its sad I went to war for some loser like you. thanks to idiots like you the next ban is gunna be on long guns!
HalfCash213187 4 months ago 2
@HalfCash213187
The point is the man was unlawfully detained. If the management wanted him to leave the cops should have merely asked him to leave. Instead the cops detained and searched the open carrier without RAS or PC of criminal activity. Then they approached the management and compelled the manager to agree that the carrier should leave.
toptruckracer 4 months ago
@toptruckracer wrong, open carry in itself is grounds for detention, ask the guy in the video, he will tell you. law enforcement can detain and inspect the weapon. Most people that are familiar with open carry are aware of that, including the guy here. But whatever I dont really care, go make a complaint and see where it gets. I guess you would rather the cops not respond to the call at all.
HalfCash213187 4 months ago
@HalfCash213187
The exercise of a fundamental right is not subject to a detention without reasonable suspicion of a crime. US v Umbiles, Terry v Ohio, Florida v JL. The problem with checks is that they are illegal searches because there is no RAS that a crime has, is, or will occur. It is an illegal or unconstitutional law.
toptruckracer 4 months ago
@toptruckracer, I the manager had objections he could tell customer.
Manager and employees can conceal/open carry un/loaded on premises no permit needed. Manager is probably prohibited by corporate from carrying.
Also, I ask about race of MGR and OCW? MGR looked Latino, and now he has 4 big cops there he gets brave enough to ask customer to go.
EDUCATE, COMMUNICATE, EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS
borderraven 4 months ago
@HalfCash213187 Yeah, you weren't paying attention. The business didn't care about him one way or the other. The police showed up, used their discretion in enforcing an optional and constitutionally questionable California law to check the status of his weapon, determined it was unloaded, and continued to detain him and harass him. They coerced the manager into asking him to leave. If the police talk a store manager into asking you to leave, how is that not harassment?
argmanah 4 months ago
@argmanah define what harrasment is and Ill tell you how its not harassment. They got a call there. I'm all for open carry, just not by idiots looking for youtube attention. Its not for protection he just walks around until its time to let the video roll. This clown is the reason people go against the cause. How hard is it to just go with the program? This loser just be a bitch by pleaing the 5th when they are just asking simple questions. This law with common sense will save us, no fatty here.
HalfCash213187 4 months ago
@HalfCash213187
What's up with the name calling? He's a bitch? He's a clown? He's looking for attention? He's a loser? He's a fatty?
toptruckracer 4 months ago
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whosyom0mmy 4 months ago
@toptruckracer .....a seriously flawed analytical reasoner and a hypocrite too, just like you!!! Didn't you do some name calling with your "Fucking pigs" comment? So you're ok with Christopher exercising the 2nd but not cool with HalfCash213187 sporting his 1st??? ...just sayin'! Have a great day and God bless you
whosyom0mmy 4 months ago
@toptruckracer The Fatty comment was uncalled for. The rest were hoping he would get a clue and telling him that the reason for his exploits are transparent.
diginit3 4 months ago
@HalfCash213187
Sooo TRUE!
diginit3 3 months ago
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HalfCash213187 4 months ago
Guns not jobs
wbrowett05 4 months ago
It's sad to see PD ack like that. Keep up the good work. PD enforces law at there own will. I guess they want Cal like Mexico. Only Cops and criminals have the jobs.
wbrowett05 4 months ago
You're on the COP radar now. It sucks, but true. Just keep on keep'en on man!
danno02 4 months ago
6 OF US OPEN CARRIED AT10PM IN ONTARIO AT THE SAME LOCATION. ONTARIO PD DID NOT HARASS US BECAUSE THEY PREY ON SINGLE PEOPLE WHO OPEN CARRY. THEY ARE COWARDS.
hacopian5900 4 months ago 3
Well, I will never eat at a Wendy's again. It's time to vote with our hard earned cash!
BearFlagTrading 4 months ago
Dude, u are attracting more cops then the " hot, ready donuts " sign at Krispy Kreme
GypsyMoFoJoe 4 months ago in playlist More videos from hacopian5900
@GypsyMoFoJoe Did someone say donuts?
icatchum530 4 months ago
@hacopian5900 are you fuc*ing kidding me...?????? You DO have some big balls!!!! You posted my civil case info.(hence my name AND my Daughters name) directly on a video, which had absolutely nothing to do with the Christopher Hacopian v, City of Upland et al civil case, in an attempt to strengthen an otherwise weak case . That is pure and simple exploitation!!!!!! I have asked you to remove the case info and yet it remains there. Wow, nothing shocks me now, Chris! lol Love thy neighbor anyway!
whosyom0mmy 4 months ago
@whosyom0mmy Don't blame me don't cheat because your a badge bunny. Blame yourself and the married cop you cheated with.
hacopian5900 4 months ago
@hacopian5900 Dude, she's a badge bunny? Is she a home-wrecker too? Cool!
stonedpistolero 4 months ago 7
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whosyom0mmy 4 months ago 2
@whosyom0mmy What would I be wishing for?
stonedpistolero 4 months ago 6
@stonedpistolero badge bunny? what exactly is that? Are you talking about a male or female who are attracted to a male or female in uniform? So why is that a bad thing? People wearing badges have feelings too.
icatchum530 4 months ago 2
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whosyom0mmy 3 months ago
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whosyom0mmy 3 months ago
@icatchum530 Actually, he's much more attractive in a suit... a birthday suit. No accessories needed!
whosyom0mmy 3 months ago
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whosyom0mmy 3 months ago
@whosyom0mmy Now this is FK'n scary...
diginit3 3 months ago
@diginit3 sorry, not sure what you're referring to here....
whosyom0mmy 3 months ago