Meine Großeltern haben hier geheiratet und hier wurden ihre ersten beiden Kinder sind heir geboren. Später sind sie nach Güstrow umgesiedelt worden.Leider kenne ich diese Stadt nicht!
Leider sind meine Geschwister und meine Eltern verstorben. Meine Schwester und meine Mutter waren mal da und sie haben NICHTS mehr. erkannt. Sie waren aber hell auf begeistert!!!!!!!
Let's put it this way - I wanted to live in Lwów like my parents and grandparents before me, but because some German mother-fucker decided to start a war (which the Soviets won anyway) I was born in Pomerania. None of us would be arguing about to whom Szczecin / Stettin / whatever rightly belongs to, if somebody decided to stay home on September 1, 1939.
He wasn't even German, He was from Austria. German People are usually tall and blond hair, blue eyes, Hitler was short and dark and his eyes were brown.
@FranklyMisterShankly The trouble you have with that thesis is that you forgot that it was the Polish Foreign Minister Beck who "stayed home" rather than respond to talks on Danzig as he should have, and thus BROKE THE AGREEMENT that Poland had entered into with Germany (1934) and when Germany GAVE Poland Teschen just months before. Its not only about who struck the match, but also why it was struck. Hence Poland ALSO lost bigtime. Try Versailles and Polish intransigence.
In July 1945 99 % of the Stettin city population was German, 1 % consisted out of Polish pro-communist governors of the "regained territories". Stettin is and remains an historically German and Slavic-Pomeranian city. Poland actually never had any right to it. Not even under Potsdam Treaty!
I forgot to add that there were 0,3 % Polish forced labourers in Stettin's factories. But that does not make the véry German city of Stettin rightfully Polish. Not even Potsdam ceded Stettin to Communist Poland.
Who cares, if it's not de iuris, then it's de facto. Who starts a war must consider its effects, and pay the bill. I'm sorry for German loses, but not more than that.
Das alte Stettin. Eine Stadt die nie polnisch war. Von hier müssen wir die polnischen Horden wieder nach Polen zurückbringen und den illegalen polnischen Landraub des deutschen Ostens beenden.
The Polish pre-1939 eastern provinces held about 1.2 million Polish citizens, mostly officials, and the rest (90%) of those territories were ethnic-Ukrainian and ethnic-Bielorussian. Poland only gained them on the Soviet Russians in 1922. Rightly so, but ethnically they were not Polish. Stettin on the contrary was 100 % German.
The most important are main cities lying on these grounds: Lviv, Vilnus, Grodno were mainly Polish (about 85% of Polish citizens, excluding Jews). So then, answer me one question: what is more important: nationality of citizens or historical and cultural connections? If 2nd is true-half of past DDR should belong to Poland!
...well, and who lived on the actual polish territory before the slavic tribes came there aroud 400...just look at documents of the roman empire...german tribes lived there....so your arguments are just nonsense...after almost 1000 years of beeing a german city it is just stupid to argue with history...but the fact is, that it is a polish city now because of WW II...I just hate people who want to justify the ocupacion with historical arguments...but they don´t exist...
It is about time Poland give back those german cities and lands to Germany. Europe is waiting for that. It has to come to taht one day. May be in 10 or 20 years. I believe that Germans, at the end, will finish by "buying" them with money. I have sorrow for Poiles though, since Russia stole their land TOO !
NORDBERTSS taki z Ciebie nimiec jak i szczecinianin, wię gębe zawrzyj. I tak to prawda Szczecin jest pięknym miastem i nie zapominaj. Już nie Niemieckim...
Your majuscules have no reason. Stettin was (in chronological order:) Slavic, Polish, Pomeranian, Hanseatic, Prussian, Swedish, French, German and Polish :). I do agree it's 'schonste'.
other people have do nothing in this town! and in middle age the wasn't anythink like nation! you poles are always making stupid copout :/ copernicus was also a pole? :D he did't even speak polish and have no polish blod... but for you dummies he was a pure pole:D
OK. City lying inside Poland and having Polish inhabitants is German. Yes, that's right, undoubtly :]
BTW: You're ready to discuss about 'pure' Poles and 'pure' Germans in medieval Europe? So who's a dummy here? (Copernicus, probably a German-speaking Silesian, had, as a subject of Polish King, 'Polish citizenship' figuratively speaking. The etymology of 'Kopernik' is still under the discussion. It's suspected to have Slavic origins).
in medieval was'n any "pure" nations... in all encyclopaedias on the world there is free space in column "nationality" about copermicus! only poles says that he was pure pole :/
Well, if someone writes "invasion of the USSR in 1945" and "Today Stettin is occupied by Poland", he deserves to be called something much stronger than what was used here. Maybe it's Schondorff's comments that you should remove?
Any next post which includes vulgarism like "German ass" will be remover immediatly. If anybody wants do discuss about political stuff with historical aspects with using vulgarism, he should find another platform to discuss.
Be happy that all of German males weren't been castrated after II WW - there were a serious plans to do like that, after all these millions of innocent people slayed by Germany not so long ago. It's a historical fact.
These few cities, including Szczecin, were a really very low price you paid for.
You can live in Szczecin if you want - no problem, we are in united Europe. You are welcome - as long as you don't even try to talk about "Polish occupation of Szczecin" in our city.
Rozmawialem z tym panen powaznei o temacie. Wyjasnilem z nim sprawy, dlatego postanowilem pozostawic jego posty. Wiem ze nie nalezy do radykalnych, chce jedynie zachowac czesci szczecinskiej przedwojennej kultury.
Dzieki za klip. Nie znam szczegolow twojej wymiany z shondorff (em). Mam nadzieje, ze moja wypowiedz wniesie wiecej zrozumienia. Chociaz mam spore watpliwosci, ze cokolwiek moze wplynac na perspektywe z jaka patrzy na historie. Niestety.
"Today Stettin is occupied by Poland. It is also on the western side of the river Oder." It's not Stettin but SZCZECIN you German ass. German nation started the war - 50,000,000 died for that victim Germary shouldn't exist!
Hello. I must write here that my family is from Stettin. In 1945 our family were forced to leave our home by Soviet soldiers. My brother has moved back to Stettin in 2005 as this was his wish. He is happy there. Many political people in Germany and Poland want us to forget about our home and our heritage. I think this is so wrong of as they have no right to do this to us. We have the right to live where our Heart is. It is our heritage.
Stettin is a beautiful German port city that is hundreds of years old. Luckily much of it survived the invasion of the USSR in 1945. Since that time the Russians (USSR) annixed it to a new Poland. They did this because Poland has its eastern territory annexed by the USSR and wanted to give occupied cultural German territory as compensation. Today Stettin is occupied by Poland. It is also on the western side of the river Oder.
berlin is a Slav theritory.
Szczecin jest polski
Lwow jest polski.
niszcz nazizm, niszcz ukrainski nacjonalizm. niszcz tych, ktorzy zabijaja niewinnych ludzi
hokejfanRSA 1 year ago
Meine Großeltern haben hier geheiratet und hier wurden ihre ersten beiden Kinder sind heir geboren. Später sind sie nach Güstrow umgesiedelt worden.Leider kenne ich diese Stadt nicht!
Kuno266 1 year ago
@Kuno266 es lohnt sich die Stadt mal zu besuchen!
Dorian3010 1 year ago
@Dorian3010
Davon bin ich ganz fest überzeugt.
Leider sind meine Geschwister und meine Eltern verstorben. Meine Schwester und meine Mutter waren mal da und sie haben NICHTS mehr. erkannt. Sie waren aber hell auf begeistert!!!!!!!
Kuno266 1 year ago
Großstadt Stettin
Hordeman89 1 year ago
alesmy fajne miasto od niemcow wygarneli :) chyba sie oplacalo. lwow niejest az taki fajny
zbylutek 2 years ago
Dorian dzięki wielkie. Ten film to wielki skarb...
trailof69 3 years ago 14
nie ma sprawy. :)
Dorian3010 3 years ago
Szczecin gites miasto czemu??
Bo ja tam mieszkam ;))
tibia444 3 years ago
Tut mir den Gefallen und benimmt euch. Alles schön und gut, aber Beleidigungen werden gelöscht, egal ob Deutsch, Englisch oder Polnisch.
Dorian3010 3 years ago
Let's put it this way - I wanted to live in Lwów like my parents and grandparents before me, but because some German mother-fucker decided to start a war (which the Soviets won anyway) I was born in Pomerania. None of us would be arguing about to whom Szczecin / Stettin / whatever rightly belongs to, if somebody decided to stay home on September 1, 1939.
FranklyMisterShankly 3 years ago 14
He wasn't even German, He was from Austria. German People are usually tall and blond hair, blue eyes, Hitler was short and dark and his eyes were brown.
PralK 3 years ago 7
@FranklyMisterShankly The trouble you have with that thesis is that you forgot that it was the Polish Foreign Minister Beck who "stayed home" rather than respond to talks on Danzig as he should have, and thus BROKE THE AGREEMENT that Poland had entered into with Germany (1934) and when Germany GAVE Poland Teschen just months before. Its not only about who struck the match, but also why it was struck. Hence Poland ALSO lost bigtime. Try Versailles and Polish intransigence.
historatia 1 year ago
Szczecin forever Polish!!!
PralK 3 years ago 10
my comment refers to the statement of Shchetchynianin
rosenstolzfangi 4 years ago 3
Stettin war eine deutsche Stadt, no doubt.
LMB222 4 years ago
buahahahahahaha, du nazi schw....in
hokejfanRSA 4 years ago
gebt uns die von euch ermordeten menschen zurueck du nazi schwein,
nach dem allen moechtest du noch die stadt zurueck!?
krzychlol 4 years ago
jeszcze kilka dni i katedra znowu będzie wysoka :)
norbertszczecin 4 years ago 3
Do you have any data about the German and Polish population in 1945. I am very curious about it.
Carbonedioxide00 4 years ago
In July 1945 99 % of the Stettin city population was German, 1 % consisted out of Polish pro-communist governors of the "regained territories". Stettin is and remains an historically German and Slavic-Pomeranian city. Poland actually never had any right to it. Not even under Potsdam Treaty!
IustitiaPax 4 years ago
I forgot to add that there were 0,3 % Polish forced labourers in Stettin's factories. But that does not make the véry German city of Stettin rightfully Polish. Not even Potsdam ceded Stettin to Communist Poland.
IustitiaPax 4 years ago
Who cares, if it's not de iuris, then it's de facto. Who starts a war must consider its effects, and pay the bill. I'm sorry for German loses, but not more than that.
LMB222 4 years ago 16
Das alte Stettin. Eine Stadt die nie polnisch war. Von hier müssen wir die polnischen Horden wieder nach Polen zurückbringen und den illegalen polnischen Landraub des deutschen Ostens beenden.
DeutscherOstbund 4 years ago
Gib uns unsere Ostens erst. Alles was kann Deutsch namen sein ist nie mehr als Westpommern.
Shchetchynianin 4 years ago
The Polish pre-1939 eastern provinces held about 1.2 million Polish citizens, mostly officials, and the rest (90%) of those territories were ethnic-Ukrainian and ethnic-Bielorussian. Poland only gained them on the Soviet Russians in 1922. Rightly so, but ethnically they were not Polish. Stettin on the contrary was 100 % German.
IustitiaPax 4 years ago
The most important are main cities lying on these grounds: Lviv, Vilnus, Grodno were mainly Polish (about 85% of Polish citizens, excluding Jews). So then, answer me one question: what is more important: nationality of citizens or historical and cultural connections? If 2nd is true-half of past DDR should belong to Poland!
Shchetchynianin 4 years ago
...well, and who lived on the actual polish territory before the slavic tribes came there aroud 400...just look at documents of the roman empire...german tribes lived there....so your arguments are just nonsense...after almost 1000 years of beeing a german city it is just stupid to argue with history...but the fact is, that it is a polish city now because of WW II...I just hate people who want to justify the ocupacion with historical arguments...but they don´t exist...
rosenstolzfangi 4 years ago
Stop trolling! Everywhere I click, I see your troll input. I want to enjoy this footage, not your pseudo-philosophical whining.
LMB222 4 years ago 3
It is about time Poland give back those german cities and lands to Germany. Europe is waiting for that. It has to come to taht one day. May be in 10 or 20 years. I believe that Germans, at the end, will finish by "buying" them with money. I have sorrow for Poiles though, since Russia stole their land TOO !
aronron2727 4 years ago
Sehr richtig
DeutscherOstbund 4 years ago
Pay back for Warsaw. You can only imagine that Stettin comes back to germans.
firens180 4 years ago
---> burzuj0: Thank you for your history lesson.
Dorian3010 4 years ago
--->Mareska: Dziekuje za pozdrowienia, rowniez kocham moje miasto.
--->NORBERTSS: ...nochmals vielen Dank für diese Stadt :)
Dorian3010 4 years ago
NORDBERTSS taki z Ciebie nimiec jak i szczecinianin, wię gębe zawrzyj. I tak to prawda Szczecin jest pięknym miastem i nie zapominaj. Już nie Niemieckim...
Mareska 4 years ago
die schonste DEUTSCHE stadt!!
NORDBERTSS 4 years ago
Your majuscules have no reason. Stettin was (in chronological order:) Slavic, Polish, Pomeranian, Hanseatic, Prussian, Swedish, French, German and Polish :). I do agree it's 'schonste'.
burzuj0 4 years ago 2
other people have do nothing in this town! and in middle age the wasn't anythink like nation! you poles are always making stupid copout :/ copernicus was also a pole? :D he did't even speak polish and have no polish blod... but for you dummies he was a pure pole:D
NORDBERTSS 4 years ago
OK. City lying inside Poland and having Polish inhabitants is German. Yes, that's right, undoubtly :]
BTW: You're ready to discuss about 'pure' Poles and 'pure' Germans in medieval Europe? So who's a dummy here? (Copernicus, probably a German-speaking Silesian, had, as a subject of Polish King, 'Polish citizenship' figuratively speaking. The etymology of 'Kopernik' is still under the discussion. It's suspected to have Slavic origins).
burzuj0 4 years ago
in medieval was'n any "pure" nations... in all encyclopaedias on the world there is free space in column "nationality" about copermicus! only poles says that he was pure pole :/
NORDBERTSS 4 years ago
Kocham moje miasto... Dziękuje za filmik i pozdrawiam
Mareska 4 years ago
Od Łaby aż za Dniepr hheheheh
SchokoScheiss 5 years ago
Oczywiscie, zbudujmy polskie imperium prawe i sprawiedliwe, ktore sie samoobroni.
Dorian3010 5 years ago
Well, if someone writes "invasion of the USSR in 1945" and "Today Stettin is occupied by Poland", he deserves to be called something much stronger than what was used here. Maybe it's Schondorff's comments that you should remove?
lachmani 5 years ago
That's what I expected...
Any next post which includes vulgarism like "German ass" will be remover immediatly. If anybody wants do discuss about political stuff with historical aspects with using vulgarism, he should find another platform to discuss.
Thank you.
Dorian3010 5 years ago
Be happy that all of German males weren't been castrated after II WW - there were a serious plans to do like that, after all these millions of innocent people slayed by Germany not so long ago. It's a historical fact.
These few cities, including Szczecin, were a really very low price you paid for.
You can live in Szczecin if you want - no problem, we are in united Europe. You are welcome - as long as you don't even try to talk about "Polish occupation of Szczecin" in our city.
borrowpl 5 years ago
Mam nadzieje ze ten post nie dotyczyl sie do mnie...
Dorian3010 5 years ago
Post był do Schondorffa, ale troszkę się mi się w reply'ach pomieszało...
My previous post was adressed to Schondorff, but I've made a bit of mess in replies...
borrowpl 5 years ago
Rozmawialem z tym panen powaznei o temacie. Wyjasnilem z nim sprawy, dlatego postanowilem pozostawic jego posty. Wiem ze nie nalezy do radykalnych, chce jedynie zachowac czesci szczecinskiej przedwojennej kultury.
Dorian3010 5 years ago
Dzieki za klip. Nie znam szczegolow twojej wymiany z shondorff (em). Mam nadzieje, ze moja wypowiedz wniesie wiecej zrozumienia. Chociaz mam spore watpliwosci, ze cokolwiek moze wplynac na perspektywe z jaka patrzy na historie. Niestety.
tojatu 5 years ago
"Today Stettin is occupied by Poland. It is also on the western side of the river Oder." It's not Stettin but SZCZECIN you German ass. German nation started the war - 50,000,000 died for that victim Germary shouldn't exist!
arems11 5 years ago
pfff co za kretyn :D wasze tlumaczenie sie jest coraz bezsensowniejsze i coraz bardziej ciagnie w strone legent i mitow niz faktow!
Stettin was and is german!! only people are in 99% different!!
NORDBERTSS 4 years ago
Dear mister,
you' ve got a message from me, please check it.
Dorian3010 5 years ago
Hello. I must write here that my family is from Stettin. In 1945 our family were forced to leave our home by Soviet soldiers. My brother has moved back to Stettin in 2005 as this was his wish. He is happy there. Many political people in Germany and Poland want us to forget about our home and our heritage. I think this is so wrong of as they have no right to do this to us. We have the right to live where our Heart is. It is our heritage.
Schondorff 5 years ago
Stettin is a beautiful German port city that is hundreds of years old. Luckily much of it survived the invasion of the USSR in 1945. Since that time the Russians (USSR) annixed it to a new Poland. They did this because Poland has its eastern territory annexed by the USSR and wanted to give occupied cultural German territory as compensation. Today Stettin is occupied by Poland. It is also on the western side of the river Oder.
Schondorff 5 years ago
true :( stupid commies :/ so like my land in East Prussia :/
NORDBERTSS 4 years ago