WTF : why US taking too much interest in Iran .. Iranians dont like you all western contries we all know you all are just for oil of Muslim contries of make your supermacy ..nothing else if you are supporter of democracy go and pressurize egypt Saudi arabia and many other oil rich contries where you already installed dictators like the shah ..
We all iranian respect ISlam, khamenei .. whather we support masavi or admedi ..
I beg to differ he is very intelligent. Just because he says things you don't agree with don't make him less intelligent.. your comment makes you sound un intelligent..
Yeah, had we not "meddled" in 1953, Iran would have gone to the Soviets and the mullahs and imans now in charge would all be dead. The Soviets hated religion and routinely murdered religious leaders.
Its so typical, we meddle to preserve SOME bit of liberty in another country and get hated for it. (not TOTAL liberty so don't start with the Shah's violations; he was still better than the Politiburo would've been, just ask the Afghanistians).
What? Were you public-school educated? My pities to you.
Just who do you think was behind the socialist insurrection in Iran in the early 1950s? Back about a decade ago, one of the failed, 1953 revolutionary leaders spoke at Metro State College of Denver while I was getting my BA there. He was very proud of the support they were getting from the Soviets and very proud that they were going in behind the Iron Curtian.
Atta boy State. Isn't that a public school? and so it was inevitable that the Soviets would take over wasn't it? so good of the US to overthrow that democratically elected government for the good of the Iranian people, and the advancment of democracy everywhere! And the Iranians were so ungrateful too! You're full of shit if you think that the US acted in anything but greedy self interest. The fact that Iranians were in favor of sharing the countrys' oil wealth is what sparked the US led coup.
And you don't think that was the reason why the KGB pushed for the socialist take over of Iran, they wanted the oil and access to the Indian Ocean? ALL wars are, at their heart, economically based and that was a way to win the war without having to fight and kill.
BTW - I wonder if Iranians knew that under the proposed socialist regime their rights would have been even more restricted than under the Shah - which was the plan - they would have backed the Socialists.
Right- so the proper thing to do would be support the elected governnment not overthrow it. Just because they elect someone you (the US) doesn't like doesn't mean you can overthrow the government. Choosing between the Shaw and the Commies is like choosing between a punch in the head or a kick in the nuts, not a good choice. There is no way to justify what happened there Ted, you can't for a minute pretend it was for the Iranians, or democracy or anything but greed.
So, we should've supported a government that was already public in their hatred and despisement of the US and all non-communist countries and was seeking their eventual overthrow? What would be the sense in that? Supporting the enemy in their desire to destroy us? I guess the D'ohBama should just start throwing his support behind Al Queda, with that reasoning.
Right, Iran was a huge threat to the US in the 50's. Well it was the era of McCarthyism, and since you're trying to bring those good old days back I see where you're coming from. Just because someone doesn't like you, doesn't mean you get to overthrow thier gov't, install a brutal dictator and steal thier wealth. That's why they didn't like you in the first place! In your world where the US is right no matter what, your point makes sense, not to the rest of the world though.
McCarthyism? Wow, you went right to the typical "I'm a moron liberal" playbook.
Ever hear of the Cold War? The Soviets were trying to topple governments all over the world and we were trying to stop them and when failing to stop them from toppling the governments, we'd beat them to the punch and install a friendly government.
Sure, it wasn't perfect but since when, in the REAL world, are we given PERFECT options?
and you with the personal insults, went right into the conservative playbook. oh well at least you're towing the line, incredible hypocracy while remaining belligerent. I dont' know why you are labelling me a liberal, I am telling you that I believe in democracy, no matter who wins. and not overthrowing democracies to install dictators. If that is liberal then fine. I don't know what you call yourself nor do I care, but I do live up to my own ideals, not just empty pronouncments and insults.
What you fail to understand is that the Iranians were being duped into destroying their democracy by electing Socialists who then were going to forego any further elections.
Kinda like Hitler did when he won election in 1933.
and I'm the one going to the 'typical liberal playbook' then you bring Hitler into it? if that isn't the typical republican playbook, then you don't have one. If you think the only way to preserve democracy is by destroying it, I don't think there is much help for you. Sorry for having higher ideals than you.
Well, there you go again. The false dilema argument.
It was clear then, and is now in hindsight as well, that there was not going to be any democracy in Iran in the 1950s. Either there was going to be a liberty-hating Commie govt, brought in by a falsely-claimed "democracy" movement or there was going to be an authoritarian govt with some liberties. Life (God) seldom give a selection between great and horrible, usually the choices are somewhere in between. We chose the lesser of the evils.
again, Iit's unfortunate that you can't understand what a clear moral guiding principle is. makes sense you believe in god, it's a great way to make excuses for awful behaviour, as you clearly demonstrate here. thank you for that.
Do you read your own replies? You just said that god gave the US a choice and they chose the lesser of two evils. That's blaming god for an evil act, because you claim that was the best choice god left you. Well, there is no god, he left the US no choice, and they did what they did out of greed. You are not a bright person Ted, you contradict yourself with each new reply. You are truly a specimen, thanks again for coming out.
My response doesn't make sense to you only because you have no proper frame of reference to understand. I apologize.
I do not blame God for having a choice between bad and worse, I simply understand that because of our sin (all of us, included) we have an imperfect world and God wants to see us make wise choices. Choosing a bad option instead of a worse option is a wise choice; in using the metaphor, I didn't intend to convey that we chose to do evil.
lol, I know it wasn't what you intended, but it is exactly what you said, you're backtracking because you realize you made a mistake. that's understandable, trying to insert god into discussions about the real world is tricky, because it is such a preposterous assumption. back to the point, you assert that the elected government was sure to be commie, but they wanted to be free of US and UK influence, and only option was Soviets. the US used it as excuse to act. common practice back then
No, the agitators of the group were being handled by KGB agents, pushing them in to affiliate with the Soviets. They used the "we want to be free of the west influence" line to capture the hearts and minds of dupes.
There is nothing preposterous of God interacting in our current world; I see it all the time.
But then again, that is the basis of nearly EVERY liberal position.
"The Conservative option isn't perfect and therefore should be rejected. The Liberal option isn't realistic, but since Liberals mean well, it should be accepted."
OMG, this is perfect: absolutely perfect example of American stupidity and ahistorical consciousness. And just think, this guy is a political representative of the U.S.!
I laughed my rear off when I saw this live - what a joke, especially coming from a Southerner. Lets not forget that the South hasnt forgotten the Civil War or the "meddling" of Northerners in their "culture" during the 50s/60s.
Of course the Iranians remember our idiotic CIA meddling in their affairs ... the only people who are ignorant or forgetful of our moronic CIA and foolish foreign policies are the AMERICAN people ... and more likely than not the folks that elect fools like Chambliss.
This guy is so incredibly stupid. Same with Mccain. If you start putting support behind a candidate the OTHER side benefits as they can use it as propaganda.
I just don't understand how these people are elected to office...
I have no other evidence of that other than this senator saying it is not the case on Fox news.
That alone is the second best thing to actually going to Iran and asking people myself at proving that Iranians DO remember and that zg1000dru1 is CORRECT.
Fox news lies so much pretty much the OPPOSITE of what they say is the actual truth. Just about anyway.
You must have not majored in Engineering. If you did you would know that almost every Iranian you talk to here in good 'ole U.S.A. remembers Mahosedek's overthrow in 1953 by the CIA.
Iranians have a long long memory that goes back thousands of years. How dare you (unless you intend irony) and how dare the ignoramus from Georgia claim that Iranians don't have this collective memory.
i agree.. i was being sarcastic and paraphrasing this equally ridiculous statement:
There's been a certain amount of pop sociology in America ... that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There's almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq's always been very secular."-Bill Kristol, April 1, 2003
The Greeks still talk about what Turkey did during the time of the Ottoman Empire and have hatred towards them.
Look at the history of Yugoslavia (now Croatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina). But somehow this idiot Chambliss thinks the people in Iran wouldn't remember the history that was much closer than any of these events.
Yes, Chambliss is a true republicNUT - no brains and only runs his mouth.
and you are a princess of jesus with a pretty pink dress and glittery fairy wings and a cute little halo your mother made out of christmas tinsel. everyone loves you because you are so pretty! and they hate that obama guy because he is mulatto and muslim and other bad non-american stuff. you are right -- you should have won. isn't the world mean and unfair.
what an idiot. the middle east is constantly fighting a war based on conflict over 3000 years old. so ur telling me that an incident 50 years ago would have slipped their mind? people actually voted for you huh
The bearded "supreme leader" Ali Hoseyni Khāmenei AND the little dumb monkey he has as president (Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) ARE PRAYING that the US and Pres. Obama intervene, or outspokenly support the opposition.
Let the Iranians fight off the couple of POSs they have for leaders. The opposition might not prevail this time around, BUT they will ultimately knock down the pair of morons on power.
An interventionist foreign policy gets us in trouble. That's why we should leave Afghanistan and Iraq as soon as possible.
If President Obama really wanted to fight terrorism, he would order the withdrawal of our troops from Afghanistan, as opposed to increasing the troop levels there.
Chambliss lied his way into the Senate four years ago by calling his opponent a traitor -- he had only lost three limbs in Vietnam, not zero like Chambliss. But even if Chambliss is clever, he doesn't seem to remember how much he learned to despise England in elementary school because we had to fight against the Red Coats. He'd hate England if that had happened a mere 56 years ago? (Iran won democratic government in 1953, but England (MI6) and the USA (CIA) destroyed it for love of Iran's oil.
This guy is a harbinger of the end of the GOP. Keep it up good sir, you are the reason the Democrats are in power and will be in power for a long time to come.
Ignorance is NOT bliss when Americans are not ignorant but YOU are.
You know, maybe this whole democracy thing was a bad idea on our part. When people were given the right to vote, there really should have been some provision against electing brain dead draft dodgers like Saxby Chambliss.
I feel that we should implement some sort of aptitude test. If you want to represent the people of your state and of the United States, you better know something about something. With troglodytes like Chambliss in the Senate, no wonder we're in dire straits.
while I don't think the democrats would behave any differently it sickens me that the right would use the events in Iran for political gain by playing a dangerous game of chicken with the administration especially when they know that the US's hands are tied and that strong action would be folly at this point.
It's funny that the Republicans think that the protestors actually want their "words of support". American intervention was the reason that the people of Iran decided to bring about the Islamic Republic in the first place. We need to show we support democracy, but this revolution must come from within, not from without. Ron Paul and President Obama have it right on this one.
What an idiotic comment for a legislator to make. Iranians often chant "Death to America" at their gatherings for a reason. Even if they wanted to forget our involvement in their country, they can't with those constant reminders of our meddling. The man is delusional if he thinks average Iranians have as short of a memory as he has.
And besides, all this history about foreigners is insignificant and EASY to forget, even for THEM. The ony history that really counts is the history of the American Civil War, right? (Or was THAT too long ago for anybody in Georgia to remember?)
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We need Sarah Palin to be PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, NOT Obambi! President Sarah Palin WILL UNLEASH the WRATH OF GOD HERSELF onto the DEMONIC SATANIC Muslim Government and EXPOSE the men's PUSSIES and WIPE THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH! She will then help install a new democratic capitalistic government run ENTIRELY BY WOMEN and they will ABOLISH and ILLEGALIZE the HIJAB along with all forms of Islamic fundamentalistic extremist fanatical behavior and actions!
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She will succeed in OUSTING Letterman for he is TRULY her DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! When she is POTUS in 2013 she will EXPOSE his PUSSY and DESTROY his credibility and have his show yanked off the air never to pop up again!
Trust me, we won't have to worry about Sarah Palin as POTUS in 2013 coz there aren't enough dumb MFers - such as yourself! - that will vote for her. She made sure of that herself in 2008.
Let Iranians sort Iran's political problems, if as a politician you want to make a positive impact, help those in your own state and worry about the citizen's rights and freedom in the United States.
Yeah, let's be outraged about how the Iranian government is treating their citizens but be petty and ignore the important issues in your own country, fucken hipocrite do your job in the US where you were hired.
And what about the murder and rape feast in the Sudan. If you're really worried about people Iran no where near the top of the list. Truth is Iran is on the verge of becoming a superpower ant that is what scare people.
I think Chambliss also conveniently forgot that a foreign country (ours) has combat troops occupying the countries on either side of it (Afghanistan and Iraq). So, if you try to tell Iranians that the U.S. is NOT trying to meddle in the region, they tend not to believe you.
I think there are always one or two Carrier Groups in the Persian Gulf, for the purpose of protecting the oil tanker route, regardless.
But thanks for reminding me that one of our guided missile cruisers in the Persian Gulf accidentally shot down an Iranian Air Bus in 1988, killing all 290 passengers.
I wonder if Chambliss thinks they will have forgotten about THAT yet? *Sigh*
Just a technical point: not all Republicans are neo-cons. But yes, all Republicans are this stupid. They seem to have driven all the ones with any common sense out of the party in the last few years. McCain put up a fairly good front during the last election to make it look like they're not all insane, but was quickly made a fool of by his own party base.
I thought the last time the US meddled in Iran (that was public knowledge) was in 79. Even if it was 60 years ago or 160 years ago, people tend to learn their own history. They might not remember it but I'm sure they know all about it.
No matter what Obama does, Republicans will come out against it.
These guys are idiots, and they don't think about or care about what's really best for the US. They just want to attack their competition... it's a game to them, and they're just trying to score points.
It's scary the very people who have the power to declare war, haven't a clue about the political dynamic of our most power rival
Besides Iran being a very educated society, anti-foreign influence is part of their culture. I assure you every Iranian child is taught basic Iranian history.
Not to mention the Shi'i element portraying the US & Israel as the Yazzid.
This guy doesn't fucking know anything & he has influence. THIS IS FUCKING PISSING ME OFF. I could do his job better
The rest of the world is not like America where we forget things that happened last week. People tend not to forget things that fundamentally changed the course of history in their country for the worst.
all the persians i know are still pretty angry about the US and their meddling in the 50's. That coup d'etat was the cause of nearly all the problems that have existed in that country since.
OMG!! Does this guy have a single clue about what non-Americans think? I cannot believe somebody this stupid is a member of an elected body?
Does he truly think that U.S. intervention and the history of the Shah is NOT taught in Iranian schools? Doesn't he know that many of the current leaders of the county were part of the protests that brought down the Shah?
In that part of the world, they speak of what happened to their grandparents' grandparents as if it happened yesterday... and they want reparations!!! Back in their grandparent's grandparents day, THEY spoke about what happened in THEIR grandparent's grandparents day, as if it happened yesterday... and THEY wanted reparations.
For what it's worth... exactly what Chambliss says Obama is NOT doing is what he IS doing, and vice versa for McCain.
He is right that Iranian's aren't protesting about meddling by the U.S., but he is a complete idiot for assuming that they've conveniently ignored the fact that we deposed their Democratic government and backed the Shah. Iranians are protesting about serious internal problems, but I doubt they have forgotten about what led them there. If the U.S. starts backing the protesters, then the Iranians will use that as an excuse to clamp down on them. Once again, the GOP is acting like idiots.
Holy smoke, Chambliss - are you that fucking ignorant, or do you just think that your constituents and the Iranian people are? That interference in the fifties led to nearly thirty years of a despised leadership that was ended only in 1979. And for every one of those years, the average Iranian knew damn well that the Shah was a U.S. puppet regime.
The problem Chambliss has is that he thinks the rest of the world is as pig-ignorant as the people who elected him.
It happened 60 years ago what has the US done to copensate the Iranians for screwing up their country ?
Its pretty hard to have any cred when the states since then has gone into several countries, blew them to kingdom come then leaves without giving any financial support. Meanwhile back at the Ranch their own country is being run into the ground.
This guy's an idiot. The Iranians (like all Middle Easterners) know how to hold a grudge. Every damn one of them knows about the US interference in the 50's.
Agreed, Republican's think people are morons. Technically they have been for 8 years for allowing those crooks to rule the U.S. They make me laugh whenever they open their mouths.
Can anyone actually imagine John McCain being the president right now? After all he (and his party) has said not only in the campaign but since January. Man, did we dodge a bullet there.
Never assume an entire population "doesn't remember" something or is too dumb or whatever to grasp the concept. Especially in this case, it's just wishful thinking.
.....LMAO....Republicans really think this way...".Iranians do not know their history"...Sen. Chambliss is oozing with BIGOTTED ideas of Iran!....Don't let him near any foreign policy, he'll certainly f..k it up!
Why shouldn't they think that way? The average Republican supporter is sadly a blue collar worker who doesn't even read a newspaper, much less books. They get all their information from Fox, and AM radio. These Americans have no idea what we did in Iran in '53, and probably wouldn't believe you if you told them.
You're an idiot that makes assumptions about blue collar workers. How do you know where they get their info from. Other than the fact you said it true , so therefore it must be true.
@littletiger2020 I'm not making "assumptions" about anything. I'm from a blue collar family who believe this bullshit. I know EXACTLY what the fuck I'm talking about.
Iranians don't remember the CIA orchestration of the 1953 Iranian coup d'état against the democratically elected government of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq?
they do teach us at school but the important thing is that iran is a non democratic theocrasy and we need all the help we can get from obama or whoever is willing to help.
The problem with Iran is much like the problem we have in the US. We call them Repubs or neocons. I am not sure what they call themselves but they are the ones who support Akmadinajad and the old way of life where America is evil and just mentioning America can whip them into a frenzy of hate.
"WWII was over 60 years ago, I don't think if you asked the average guy on the street in the US if he remembers what happened at Pearl Harbor, he would have a clue that the Japanese were behind it"
Really, only 60 years ago and the folks don't remember?
Don't know about the "average" but there are some pretty slow people out there, as well as those who just don't care (I'd wager this is the larger group) so it's fairly plausible that it could happen. Especially in the younger generations.
That would assume that people were listening or caring about those. The statement wasn't whether Pearl Harbor occurred, but who was behind it. That is a plausible thing for people to not retain. That has been my experience with my classmates (just recently graduating highschool a year or two ago), and maybe I'm not giving them enough credit, but I've learned not to give them much to begin with.
Don't lump all Georgians in the Chambliss. I didn't vote for him, and sure has hell didn't vote for McCain. How about we wall off whatever ignorant, intolerant shithole you're from, then burn it? Sound fun, fuckhead?
Funny you ask. Half of my state's (FL) problems stem fr the whole northern region--the 'Redneck Riviera'--being dom'd by as backward a bunch of sister-fucking Baptist gun-nut anti-gummint morons as yr state. States of the old confederacy, Hoss.
I don't 'lump' you w/GA, the electoral college does.
So excuse me for not feeling the grandeur of yr state--1 of those that turned fr true blue to blood red ON A DIME in 1964...gee, wonder why?
No, your state's "problems" come from having morons like you living in it. Good thing you'll be under water in the next decade or so. Have fun swimming. Oh, and Senators are elected, fuckwit
btw, i could care fucking less of what you think about what music I like. You're a retard. Your opinion is irrelevant, and worthless. .
You're probably right, given that the quickest way to give the Iranian Revolutionary government an excuse to crush the Mousavi supporters is to accuse them all of being American puppets, as evidenced by U.S. support for their cause.
So, I have no choice but to believe Chambliss and the other Republicans secretly WANT Ahmadinejad to stay in power. Better that than allow people to think Obama might have helped to topple him with his Cairo speech.
@theyugo
Yes he is I'm prod he is our Senator..
littletiger2020 11 months ago
WTF : why US taking too much interest in Iran .. Iranians dont like you all western contries we all know you all are just for oil of Muslim contries of make your supermacy ..nothing else if you are supporter of democracy go and pressurize egypt Saudi arabia and many other oil rich contries where you already installed dictators like the shah ..
We all iranian respect ISlam, khamenei .. whather we support masavi or admedi ..
we all are not supporters of yours agenda
down with US israel .
rocketmailer 2 years ago
@rocketmailer
down with Iran and that crazy dicator president of yours. God Bless the Great U.S.A. and Israel..so up yours..
littletiger2020 11 months ago
same logic would apply that people in the united states do not know about pearl harbor attack.
this senator is not intelligent, i suspect.
AngusMcSpuds 2 years ago
@AngusMcSpuds
I beg to differ he is very intelligent. Just because he says things you don't agree with don't make him less intelligent.. your comment makes you sound un intelligent..
littletiger2020 11 months ago
Ignorance is Cham-bliss!
Another GOP retard exposing his full-fledged moronicity for all the world to see.
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago
Yeah, had we not "meddled" in 1953, Iran would have gone to the Soviets and the mullahs and imans now in charge would all be dead. The Soviets hated religion and routinely murdered religious leaders.
Its so typical, we meddle to preserve SOME bit of liberty in another country and get hated for it. (not TOTAL liberty so don't start with the Shah's violations; he was still better than the Politiburo would've been, just ask the Afghanistians).
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
jeezus christ, what evidence do you have the Iran would have 'gone' to the Soviets? let me answer, you have none. Because there is none.
How is overthrowing a democracy and installing a dictator and stealing oil wealth preserving 'liberty'?
Thanks for coming out though.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago 2
What? Were you public-school educated? My pities to you.
Just who do you think was behind the socialist insurrection in Iran in the early 1950s? Back about a decade ago, one of the failed, 1953 revolutionary leaders spoke at Metro State College of Denver while I was getting my BA there. He was very proud of the support they were getting from the Soviets and very proud that they were going in behind the Iron Curtian.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
Atta boy State. Isn't that a public school? and so it was inevitable that the Soviets would take over wasn't it? so good of the US to overthrow that democratically elected government for the good of the Iranian people, and the advancment of democracy everywhere! And the Iranians were so ungrateful too! You're full of shit if you think that the US acted in anything but greedy self interest. The fact that Iranians were in favor of sharing the countrys' oil wealth is what sparked the US led coup.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
And you don't think that was the reason why the KGB pushed for the socialist take over of Iran, they wanted the oil and access to the Indian Ocean? ALL wars are, at their heart, economically based and that was a way to win the war without having to fight and kill.
BTW - I wonder if Iranians knew that under the proposed socialist regime their rights would have been even more restricted than under the Shah - which was the plan - they would have backed the Socialists.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
Right- so the proper thing to do would be support the elected governnment not overthrow it. Just because they elect someone you (the US) doesn't like doesn't mean you can overthrow the government. Choosing between the Shaw and the Commies is like choosing between a punch in the head or a kick in the nuts, not a good choice. There is no way to justify what happened there Ted, you can't for a minute pretend it was for the Iranians, or democracy or anything but greed.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
So, we should've supported a government that was already public in their hatred and despisement of the US and all non-communist countries and was seeking their eventual overthrow? What would be the sense in that? Supporting the enemy in their desire to destroy us? I guess the D'ohBama should just start throwing his support behind Al Queda, with that reasoning.
BUT, even D'ohBama's not THAT stupid.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
Right, Iran was a huge threat to the US in the 50's. Well it was the era of McCarthyism, and since you're trying to bring those good old days back I see where you're coming from. Just because someone doesn't like you, doesn't mean you get to overthrow thier gov't, install a brutal dictator and steal thier wealth. That's why they didn't like you in the first place! In your world where the US is right no matter what, your point makes sense, not to the rest of the world though.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago 2
McCarthyism? Wow, you went right to the typical "I'm a moron liberal" playbook.
Ever hear of the Cold War? The Soviets were trying to topple governments all over the world and we were trying to stop them and when failing to stop them from toppling the governments, we'd beat them to the punch and install a friendly government.
Sure, it wasn't perfect but since when, in the REAL world, are we given PERFECT options?
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
and you with the personal insults, went right into the conservative playbook. oh well at least you're towing the line, incredible hypocracy while remaining belligerent. I dont' know why you are labelling me a liberal, I am telling you that I believe in democracy, no matter who wins. and not overthrowing democracies to install dictators. If that is liberal then fine. I don't know what you call yourself nor do I care, but I do live up to my own ideals, not just empty pronouncments and insults.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
What you fail to understand is that the Iranians were being duped into destroying their democracy by electing Socialists who then were going to forego any further elections.
Kinda like Hitler did when he won election in 1933.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
and I'm the one going to the 'typical liberal playbook' then you bring Hitler into it? if that isn't the typical republican playbook, then you don't have one. If you think the only way to preserve democracy is by destroying it, I don't think there is much help for you. Sorry for having higher ideals than you.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
Well, there you go again. The false dilema argument.
It was clear then, and is now in hindsight as well, that there was not going to be any democracy in Iran in the 1950s. Either there was going to be a liberty-hating Commie govt, brought in by a falsely-claimed "democracy" movement or there was going to be an authoritarian govt with some liberties. Life (God) seldom give a selection between great and horrible, usually the choices are somewhere in between. We chose the lesser of the evils.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
again, Iit's unfortunate that you can't understand what a clear moral guiding principle is. makes sense you believe in god, it's a great way to make excuses for awful behaviour, as you clearly demonstrate here. thank you for that.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
God should never be used to make excuses for awful behavior. Choices have consequences for the chooser and everyone else around the chooser.
God simply holds each person for their choices; predominately that of whether or not to accept His Son, Jesus Christ, as Savior.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
Do you read your own replies? You just said that god gave the US a choice and they chose the lesser of two evils. That's blaming god for an evil act, because you claim that was the best choice god left you. Well, there is no god, he left the US no choice, and they did what they did out of greed. You are not a bright person Ted, you contradict yourself with each new reply. You are truly a specimen, thanks again for coming out.
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
My response doesn't make sense to you only because you have no proper frame of reference to understand. I apologize.
I do not blame God for having a choice between bad and worse, I simply understand that because of our sin (all of us, included) we have an imperfect world and God wants to see us make wise choices. Choosing a bad option instead of a worse option is a wise choice; in using the metaphor, I didn't intend to convey that we chose to do evil.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
lol, I know it wasn't what you intended, but it is exactly what you said, you're backtracking because you realize you made a mistake. that's understandable, trying to insert god into discussions about the real world is tricky, because it is such a preposterous assumption. back to the point, you assert that the elected government was sure to be commie, but they wanted to be free of US and UK influence, and only option was Soviets. the US used it as excuse to act. common practice back then
HugeJohn51 2 years ago
No, the agitators of the group were being handled by KGB agents, pushing them in to affiliate with the Soviets. They used the "we want to be free of the west influence" line to capture the hearts and minds of dupes.
There is nothing preposterous of God interacting in our current world; I see it all the time.
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
But then again, that is the basis of nearly EVERY liberal position.
"The Conservative option isn't perfect and therefore should be rejected. The Liberal option isn't realistic, but since Liberals mean well, it should be accepted."
TedinLasVegas 2 years ago
...what a disrespect to the Iranians, thsi guy is such a douchebag
lota68 2 years ago
OMG, this is perfect: absolutely perfect example of American stupidity and ahistorical consciousness. And just think, this guy is a political representative of the U.S.!
diffidatio 2 years ago
I laughed my rear off when I saw this live - what a joke, especially coming from a Southerner. Lets not forget that the South hasnt forgotten the Civil War or the "meddling" of Northerners in their "culture" during the 50s/60s.
Of course the Iranians remember our idiotic CIA meddling in their affairs ... the only people who are ignorant or forgetful of our moronic CIA and foolish foreign policies are the AMERICAN people ... and more likely than not the folks that elect fools like Chambliss.
BrerRabbitBDA 2 years ago
This guy is so incredibly stupid. Same with Mccain. If you start putting support behind a candidate the OTHER side benefits as they can use it as propaganda.
I just don't understand how these people are elected to office...
ipxzor 2 years ago 3
Just to make it clear...there is not an Iranian alive who doesn't remember the 1953 coup.
zg1000dru1 2 years ago
I have no other evidence of that other than this senator saying it is not the case on Fox news.
That alone is the second best thing to actually going to Iran and asking people myself at proving that Iranians DO remember and that zg1000dru1 is CORRECT.
Fox news lies so much pretty much the OPPOSITE of what they say is the actual truth. Just about anyway.
Aro2220 2 years ago
there is kind of this pop psychology about the Iranians remembering which foreign power overthrew their elected government 50 years ago....LOL
CleveDan 2 years ago
CleveDan,
You must have not majored in Engineering. If you did you would know that almost every Iranian you talk to here in good 'ole U.S.A. remembers Mahosedek's overthrow in 1953 by the CIA.
Iranians have a long long memory that goes back thousands of years. How dare you (unless you intend irony) and how dare the ignoramus from Georgia claim that Iranians don't have this collective memory.
milkgodnl 2 years ago
i agree.. i was being sarcastic and paraphrasing this equally ridiculous statement:
There's been a certain amount of pop sociology in America ... that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq just want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There's almost no evidence of that at all. Iraq's always been very secular."-Bill Kristol, April 1, 2003
CleveDan 2 years ago
Shamebliss
RUKiddinMeHuh 2 years ago
Sen. Cham-ignorant -is-bliss!
brukins 2 years ago
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just nuke the whole place, fucking worthless
getexxperience 2 years ago
Listening to a Republican senator talk about a stolen presidential election is kind of like listening to a Nazi talk about human rights.
LeoHareMusic 2 years ago
lol
Aro2220 2 years ago
What an idiot!!!!
The Greeks still talk about what Turkey did during the time of the Ottoman Empire and have hatred towards them.
Look at the history of Yugoslavia (now Croatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina). But somehow this idiot Chambliss thinks the people in Iran wouldn't remember the history that was much closer than any of these events.
Yes, Chambliss is a true republicNUT - no brains and only runs his mouth.
pbacker01 2 years ago 2
People in the Middle East have a much better political memory than Americans.
Filthenburg 2 years ago 5
how about we settle the minnesota senate seat before we even think about foriegn elections
davidblack89 2 years ago 3
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Obama's the Antichrist in the White House
DorjePawo 2 years ago
There's no such thing.
Filthenburg 2 years ago
You really need to get a life.
Karlfalcon 2 years ago
And you're the moron on the forum, right now.
Zubirrex 2 years ago
and you are a princess of jesus with a pretty pink dress and glittery fairy wings and a cute little halo your mother made out of christmas tinsel. everyone loves you because you are so pretty! and they hate that obama guy because he is mulatto and muslim and other bad non-american stuff. you are right -- you should have won. isn't the world mean and unfair.
gisforgary 2 years ago
what an idiot. the middle east is constantly fighting a war based on conflict over 3000 years old. so ur telling me that an incident 50 years ago would have slipped their mind? people actually voted for you huh
hossboss96 2 years ago 2
senator shit for brains
freedom8758 2 years ago 2
Come on when bush was elected that was probably a bigger fraud
Cietru 2 years ago
The bearded "supreme leader" Ali Hoseyni Khāmenei AND the little dumb monkey he has as president (Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) ARE PRAYING that the US and Pres. Obama intervene, or outspokenly support the opposition.
Let the Iranians fight off the couple of POSs they have for leaders. The opposition might not prevail this time around, BUT they will ultimately knock down the pair of morons on power.
onlyrey 2 years ago 2
An interventionist foreign policy gets us in trouble. That's why we should leave Afghanistan and Iraq as soon as possible.
If President Obama really wanted to fight terrorism, he would order the withdrawal of our troops from Afghanistan, as opposed to increasing the troop levels there.
MooseOfReason 2 years ago
ONLY Republicans make stupid-ass statements like this. No wonder so many countries dont care for America........
ZingZee123456789 2 years ago 4
Chambliss lied his way into the Senate four years ago by calling his opponent a traitor -- he had only lost three limbs in Vietnam, not zero like Chambliss. But even if Chambliss is clever, he doesn't seem to remember how much he learned to despise England in elementary school because we had to fight against the Red Coats. He'd hate England if that had happened a mere 56 years ago? (Iran won democratic government in 1953, but England (MI6) and the USA (CIA) destroyed it for love of Iran's oil.
Lriz123 2 years ago
this man is assuming that most iranians are as stupid and ignorant as most americans-WRONG!
kakahass 2 years ago 3
This guy is a harbinger of the end of the GOP. Keep it up good sir, you are the reason the Democrats are in power and will be in power for a long time to come.
Ignorance is NOT bliss when Americans are not ignorant but YOU are.
GodLovesMcCain 2 years ago 3
You know, maybe this whole democracy thing was a bad idea on our part. When people were given the right to vote, there really should have been some provision against electing brain dead draft dodgers like Saxby Chambliss.
I feel that we should implement some sort of aptitude test. If you want to represent the people of your state and of the United States, you better know something about something. With troglodytes like Chambliss in the Senate, no wonder we're in dire straits.
mrbadguysan 2 years ago
Just because Americans have short-term memory doesn't mean the rest of the world does.
Cheshirecatmeow1 2 years ago 8
while I don't think the democrats would behave any differently it sickens me that the right would use the events in Iran for political gain by playing a dangerous game of chicken with the administration especially when they know that the US's hands are tied and that strong action would be folly at this point.
OrbisFerrum 2 years ago
This old fart sounds even dumber than his own name.
Why do morons like this guy represent us in DC?
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago 5
It's funny that the Republicans think that the protestors actually want their "words of support". American intervention was the reason that the people of Iran decided to bring about the Islamic Republic in the first place. We need to show we support democracy, but this revolution must come from within, not from without. Ron Paul and President Obama have it right on this one.
JBeatty17 2 years ago
Dear tpmtv,
Thnks for posting despite (or bescause of exposing) this gross display of ignoramus-ass-ious.
I give 5* because your rating is low. I think people are voting on the content (Chambliss' f^%ktard level) and not on based on the video-post value.
8blkcat 2 years ago
Is BAD foreign policy reputation, not bad enough for you, senator?
It is a damn shame, this fool got elected to the top echelons of our government!
vdohwatcher 2 years ago
what a moron....
MasrawyPasha 2 years ago 2
What an idiotic comment for a legislator to make. Iranians often chant "Death to America" at their gatherings for a reason. Even if they wanted to forget our involvement in their country, they can't with those constant reminders of our meddling. The man is delusional if he thinks average Iranians have as short of a memory as he has.
dafttool 2 years ago 4
He dares saying... What a cretin..
Francebrasil 2 years ago 3
Chambliss is a fucking stupid twat
micahgee 2 years ago 5
Oh, and the irony really kicks in with, what I believe, was an official apology for slavery by congress, which happened well over 60 years ago ; )
tustruman 2 years ago
ignorance in a nutshell
tustruman 2 years ago 2
Saxby does work hard, but he studied history in a frat house on Milledge Avenue in between kegs.
gamoonbat 2 years ago 2
And besides, all this history about foreigners is insignificant and EASY to forget, even for THEM. The ony history that really counts is the history of the American Civil War, right? (Or was THAT too long ago for anybody in Georgia to remember?)
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 2
The Truth & insights about 2009 Iranian Election from a leading American Think Tank.
/watch?v=jNaZpAHcXkI
Think before you meddle!
iknewitalready 2 years ago 2
Oh, right. That wasn't Americans removing the Shia regime and installing a pro-American government, they were the Russians, ha ha!
Maplesyrup41 2 years ago
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We need Sarah Palin to be PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW, NOT Obambi! President Sarah Palin WILL UNLEASH the WRATH OF GOD HERSELF onto the DEMONIC SATANIC Muslim Government and EXPOSE the men's PUSSIES and WIPE THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH! She will then help install a new democratic capitalistic government run ENTIRELY BY WOMEN and they will ABOLISH and ILLEGALIZE the HIJAB along with all forms of Islamic fundamentalistic extremist fanatical behavior and actions!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
Note from Humankind - kill yourself :)
Maplesyrup41 2 years ago 2
She's too busy issuing fatwas calling for the death of David Letterman to do anything about this.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 2
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She will succeed in OUSTING Letterman for he is TRULY her DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! When she is POTUS in 2013 she will EXPOSE his PUSSY and DESTROY his credibility and have his show yanked off the air never to pop up again!
ecwaufisxtreme 2 years ago
Trust me, we won't have to worry about Sarah Palin as POTUS in 2013 coz there aren't enough dumb MFers - such as yourself! - that will vote for her. She made sure of that herself in 2008.
SabuPtolemy 2 years ago
ecwaufisxtreme,
I heard a pop!
Sorry for attacking you before. you're hilarious! Unfortunately not many people appreciate your satire.
Also,even though I am all knowing,are you really just kiddidng? If you are, Haha.
If you are not,WTF are you talking about?
wervasdeferens 2 years ago 2
Let Iranians sort Iran's political problems, if as a politician you want to make a positive impact, help those in your own state and worry about the citizen's rights and freedom in the United States.
Yeah, let's be outraged about how the Iranian government is treating their citizens but be petty and ignore the important issues in your own country, fucken hipocrite do your job in the US where you were hired.
jtonyd 2 years ago 2
And what about the murder and rape feast in the Sudan. If you're really worried about people Iran no where near the top of the list. Truth is Iran is on the verge of becoming a superpower ant that is what scare people.
cosmosgato 2 years ago
I think Chambliss also conveniently forgot that a foreign country (ours) has combat troops occupying the countries on either side of it (Afghanistan and Iraq). So, if you try to tell Iranians that the U.S. is NOT trying to meddle in the region, they tend not to believe you.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 3
Don't forget the two or three aricraft carriers that Bush had off the coast.
cosmosgato 2 years ago
I think there are always one or two Carrier Groups in the Persian Gulf, for the purpose of protecting the oil tanker route, regardless.
But thanks for reminding me that one of our guided missile cruisers in the Persian Gulf accidentally shot down an Iranian Air Bus in 1988, killing all 290 passengers.
I wonder if Chambliss thinks they will have forgotten about THAT yet? *Sigh*
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 2
Just saying stuff. Image repub's lead by McCain jumping around a ring calling various world leaders out to come wrestle (rastle)
PharaohNineD 2 years ago
Good god, these politicians don't just think US citizens are stupid, they have evolved to believe all people are stupid, in the world!
motorolarules 2 years ago 3
are all neo-con republican's this stupid?
u2beandme 2 years ago 3
YES, YES AND FUCKIN YES!
iknewitalready 2 years ago 2
Just a technical point: not all Republicans are neo-cons. But yes, all Republicans are this stupid. They seem to have driven all the ones with any common sense out of the party in the last few years. McCain put up a fairly good front during the last election to make it look like they're not all insane, but was quickly made a fool of by his own party base.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 4
what a ignoramus fool!
iknewitalready 2 years ago 2
Jesus H. Christ ...
Bosco239 2 years ago
I thought the last time the US meddled in Iran (that was public knowledge) was in 79. Even if it was 60 years ago or 160 years ago, people tend to learn their own history. They might not remember it but I'm sure they know all about it.
Fultron 2 years ago
Chamblis is the one who has amnesia!
iknewitalready 2 years ago
No matter what Obama does, Republicans will come out against it.
These guys are idiots, and they don't think about or care about what's really best for the US. They just want to attack their competition... it's a game to them, and they're just trying to score points.
RealCaptainAmerica 2 years ago 3
It's scary the very people who have the power to declare war, haven't a clue about the political dynamic of our most power rival
Besides Iran being a very educated society, anti-foreign influence is part of their culture. I assure you every Iranian child is taught basic Iranian history.
Not to mention the Shi'i element portraying the US & Israel as the Yazzid.
This guy doesn't fucking know anything & he has influence. THIS IS FUCKING PISSING ME OFF. I could do his job better
BigPurple121 2 years ago 4
The rest of the world is not like America where we forget things that happened last week. People tend not to forget things that fundamentally changed the course of history in their country for the worst.
theoryofeverything44 2 years ago 3
Yup, for example North Korea. This guy probably forgot what he had for breakfast.
winstonsmith00 2 years ago
I'm from Georgia and I didn't vote for this guy. He only won because Georgia is a Red (neck) State. He does not represent me at all.
DeadlyBusiness 2 years ago 4
all the persians i know are still pretty angry about the US and their meddling in the 50's. That coup d'etat was the cause of nearly all the problems that have existed in that country since.
PlateauEast 2 years ago 2
my guess is that chambliss cannot remember what happened to him 60 years ago, so he thinks that obviously iranians could not remember either.
cpricejones 2 years ago
What a dumbass
CrocodileMonkey 2 years ago 2
What a douche bag.
mitchmanTX 2 years ago 2
republicans worrying about a stolen election, and not getting the irony. sad.
KataVideo 2 years ago 5
seriously
mejdrich 2 years ago
Goodness, does Saxby really think that students in Iran do not study history??
Well, your right he probley doesn't, they are just scary people from the middle east to him after all.
Kravis63 2 years ago 3
I reckon...
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
What a moron!
Eldrad235 2 years ago 2
OMG!! Does this guy have a single clue about what non-Americans think? I cannot believe somebody this stupid is a member of an elected body?
Does he truly think that U.S. intervention and the history of the Shah is NOT taught in Iranian schools? Doesn't he know that many of the current leaders of the county were part of the protests that brought down the Shah?
K-hrist!!!
sachaput 2 years ago 4
Non-Americans?
He doesn't know what most Americans think!
He knows what some old white southerns think.
cosmosgato 2 years ago 3
O'rly
Man STFU
3star2nr 2 years ago
In that part of the world, they speak of what happened to their grandparents' grandparents as if it happened yesterday... and they want reparations!!! Back in their grandparent's grandparents day, THEY spoke about what happened in THEIR grandparent's grandparents day, as if it happened yesterday... and THEY wanted reparations.
For what it's worth... exactly what Chambliss says Obama is NOT doing is what he IS doing, and vice versa for McCain.
This sh*t never changes.
voyeurdug 2 years ago
He is right that Iranian's aren't protesting about meddling by the U.S., but he is a complete idiot for assuming that they've conveniently ignored the fact that we deposed their Democratic government and backed the Shah. Iranians are protesting about serious internal problems, but I doubt they have forgotten about what led them there. If the U.S. starts backing the protesters, then the Iranians will use that as an excuse to clamp down on them. Once again, the GOP is acting like idiots.
keithalanjohnson 2 years ago 5
Republicans don't give a damn for other countries except their oil and mineral resources.
"Yeah, Iran, ancient and proud culture, no sense of history at all."
What a putz.
GretchenDawntreader 2 years ago 2
Republicans don't care about this country, America, either.
cosmosgato 2 years ago 6
Holy smoke, Chambliss - are you that fucking ignorant, or do you just think that your constituents and the Iranian people are? That interference in the fifties led to nearly thirty years of a despised leadership that was ended only in 1979. And for every one of those years, the average Iranian knew damn well that the Shah was a U.S. puppet regime.
The problem Chambliss has is that he thinks the rest of the world is as pig-ignorant as the people who elected him.
47f0 2 years ago 10
Maybe we should do the free, clear and open election thing over here first.
doug47130 2 years ago
It happened 60 years ago what has the US done to copensate the Iranians for screwing up their country ?
Its pretty hard to have any cred when the states since then has gone into several countries, blew them to kingdom come then leaves without giving any financial support. Meanwhile back at the Ranch their own country is being run into the ground.
boots920 2 years ago 2
This guy's an idiot. The Iranians (like all Middle Easterners) know how to hold a grudge. Every damn one of them knows about the US interference in the 50's.
jwkinraleigh 2 years ago 6
except for americans
3star2nr 2 years ago 5
Agreed, Republican's think people are morons. Technically they have been for 8 years for allowing those crooks to rule the U.S. They make me laugh whenever they open their mouths.
Philinspaces 2 years ago 6
To hear douchebag tell it, Iranians aren't bright enough to know about their own history.
Bunnicula71 2 years ago 8
Can anyone actually imagine John McCain being the president right now? After all he (and his party) has said not only in the campaign but since January. Man, did we dodge a bullet there.
vertigate 2 years ago 8
Never assume an entire population "doesn't remember" something or is too dumb or whatever to grasp the concept. Especially in this case, it's just wishful thinking.
tonycapricorny 2 years ago 4
.....LMAO....Republicans really think this way...".Iranians do not know their history"...Sen. Chambliss is oozing with BIGOTTED ideas of Iran!....Don't let him near any foreign policy, he'll certainly f..k it up!
hajqbvii 2 years ago 7
Why shouldn't they think that way? The average Republican supporter is sadly a blue collar worker who doesn't even read a newspaper, much less books. They get all their information from Fox, and AM radio. These Americans have no idea what we did in Iran in '53, and probably wouldn't believe you if you told them.
Zubirrex 2 years ago 4
@Zubirrex
You're an idiot that makes assumptions about blue collar workers. How do you know where they get their info from. Other than the fact you said it true , so therefore it must be true.
littletiger2020 11 months ago
@littletiger2020 I'm not making "assumptions" about anything. I'm from a blue collar family who believe this bullshit. I know EXACTLY what the fuck I'm talking about.
Zubirrex 11 months ago
Iranians don't remember the CIA orchestration of the 1953 Iranian coup d'état against the democratically elected government of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq?
I'll bet they teach it in school daily.
gsuitter 2 years ago 9
Exactly. I'm sure US influence in Iran during the Shah's regime is hammered home constantly - Chambliss is either disingenuous or worse.
fishhead06 2 years ago 5
they do teach us at school but the important thing is that iran is a non democratic theocrasy and we need all the help we can get from obama or whoever is willing to help.
pouyanb 2 years ago 3
The problem with Iran is much like the problem we have in the US. We call them Repubs or neocons. I am not sure what they call themselves but they are the ones who support Akmadinajad and the old way of life where America is evil and just mentioning America can whip them into a frenzy of hate.
burntonion05 2 years ago 4
I don't know what to think of that statement.
"WWII was over 60 years ago, I don't think if you asked the average guy on the street in the US if he remembers what happened at Pearl Harbor, he would have a clue that the Japanese were behind it"
Really, only 60 years ago and the folks don't remember?
dertbag2222 2 years ago 6
it is called a projection.
Urschleim 2 years ago 3
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FYI: On December 7, 1941, John McCain was five years old.
His statement was that if you asked the "AVERAGE guy on the street in the US," and not the average eighty-seven year old in a nursing home.
toribaltimore 2 years ago
Don't know about the "average" but there are some pretty slow people out there, as well as those who just don't care (I'd wager this is the larger group) so it's fairly plausible that it could happen. Especially in the younger generations.
Cyrathil 2 years ago
well people aren't that stupid, it is basic history and many movies have referances to that events....
robinvan1983 2 years ago
That would assume that people were listening or caring about those. The statement wasn't whether Pearl Harbor occurred, but who was behind it. That is a plausible thing for people to not retain. That has been my experience with my classmates (just recently graduating highschool a year or two ago), and maybe I'm not giving them enough credit, but I've learned not to give them much to begin with.
Cyrathil 2 years ago
lol those where my thirst thoughts aswell..... what about WWII :D
robinvan1983 2 years ago
This from the party of "Never Forget". And a guy who took office by slandering a multiple-amputee veteran as soft on Bin Laden.
How about let's let Georgia secede, then wall it off. Chambliss can be their idiot-king.
terpis 2 years ago 10
Don't lump all Georgians in the Chambliss. I didn't vote for him, and sure has hell didn't vote for McCain. How about we wall off whatever ignorant, intolerant shithole you're from, then burn it? Sound fun, fuckhead?
Zubirrex 2 years ago
Funny you ask. Half of my state's (FL) problems stem fr the whole northern region--the 'Redneck Riviera'--being dom'd by as backward a bunch of sister-fucking Baptist gun-nut anti-gummint morons as yr state. States of the old confederacy, Hoss.
I don't 'lump' you w/GA, the electoral college does.
So excuse me for not feeling the grandeur of yr state--1 of those that turned fr true blue to blood red ON A DIME in 1964...gee, wonder why?
btw, fuck that pathetic hair metal wankery too.
terpis 2 years ago
No, your state's "problems" come from having morons like you living in it. Good thing you'll be under water in the next decade or so. Have fun swimming. Oh, and Senators are elected, fuckwit
btw, i could care fucking less of what you think about what music I like. You're a retard. Your opinion is irrelevant, and worthless. .
Zubirrex 2 years ago
The Iranians protetsing are the secular moderates and Liberals, the educated,the students.
Maybe Saxby is referring to the "country folk",in Iran, who are undereducated,computer illiterate and who back Ahmadinejad.
It's funny how the USA and Iran are half a world apart,but so similar in the ideological debate.
wervasdeferens 2 years ago 7
You're probably right, given that the quickest way to give the Iranian Revolutionary government an excuse to crush the Mousavi supporters is to accuse them all of being American puppets, as evidenced by U.S. support for their cause.
So, I have no choice but to believe Chambliss and the other Republicans secretly WANT Ahmadinejad to stay in power. Better that than allow people to think Obama might have helped to topple him with his Cairo speech.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 2
OlivierdeAthos,
There is no secret! Some NeoCons have expresssed their preference for Ahmadinejad.
watch?v=x2UzEZ3oTMQ
Other than that, what business is it of the US?
The World is being PLAYED by the ruling class.
The only difference between the USA and Iran is that the educated people are finally standing up in Iran.
Whereas, in the USA,the educated have sat silent for 30 years.
FUCK THE NEW WORLD ORDER!
Get off your asses sheeple!
Your shepards lead you to slaughter.
wervasdeferens 2 years ago
can't the republicans just shut up?
carrierexchange 2 years ago 8
what a f-in whack job wanker shit head
fushiginoir 2 years ago 7