The had better make The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass after all of the 'Harry Potter' and 'Twilight' craze dies down. In the hands of a great director, the trilogy has the potential to become a great film.
I really want to see Lyra and Will, although by the time the movies are produced, Dakota will be to old.
@lonewolfando They aren't going to, at least not as of now... the books are amazing, really very amazing, but: even if you had read, this film became a little confusing in parts, and for those who never read it was a disaster. The director really messed it up, and while I enjoy this movie, I can see why a lot of people did not.
@DarthZimmeris Yea, I read the Subtle Knife and the Amber Spyglass after seeing the first film, it was confusing trying to figure out what had happened to Roger. I'm reading Northern Lights now and i'm already loving it, but I can see, from the parts i've read at the moment, why fans of the book might be disapointed with the film, they missed out quite a lot and i'm only half way through. That and I can't really imagine Lyra differently after seeing Dakota play her.
this movie is terrible. i dont see the religion thing just a totolitarian type society. ok so the ending sucked mad ass and the main character was too much of a annoyance. i mean she constantly put her foot in her mouth. a main character shouldnt be too bold where the audience hates her. and they still didnt explain dust!
My father is a preacher. I'm agnostic. We both went to go see this movie. It was awesome. :)
Listen, if you have real, strong faith in your religion, a MOVIE or a series of books shouldn't have enough power over you to crush your beliefs. Obviously all of the people bashing the books have secret doubt about Christianity. Or at least that's how it seems.
Argh, i LOVE Sam Elliot in that "Let's not be to hasty!" Moment! xD I still dont think it was such a good idea to give Iofur another name. Ragnar sounds rather, wrong to me xD Well the movie is ok ^^ I think iv'e seen it around 30 times up to now xD
SHUT UP! EVERYONE just shut up! There's no point in arguing. it's just a movie. I'm a cristen and I think there's no point in arguing over a silly movie.
...hollywood and responsibility don't seem to go...I guess that make more money off of sensations but as an artist, that part of the business disgusts me!!!!!
for people who would't understand why the church would be against it...you too need to read a book or at least speak to your neighbor...it is this whole thing with daemons...every one has one WHAT that goes against every thing the church is speaking...and how could movie goers not get this...for example...exorcism of emily rose, the excorist (supposedly based on a true story) its like we are made to believe daemons are evil then they are seen as child hood pets
although it's just a book,but some people are very sensitive with it because of their beliefe.
that's why!well,i'm not a cristian but i still like the story and philip pullman.but i hope one day people will reconsider before writing or making a movie if it's related to the religion.
Actually the church is evil in a sense (there truthfully isn't a such thing as evil but still) : did you know that when a boy reached the age of puberty in the medieval ages his penis was cut of so he would't be able to have what they call: "sinful pleasure"?!
The key word in that statement is "medieval ages".
They don't do stuff like that anymore because, well, it's nonsensical!
I mean, have you ever talked to a priest? Do they sound fanatical to you? Well, maybe some, but most are just normal people like you or me! No matter what we did in the past, we still are just a group of people joined together by our belief in our saviour.
But, I still love this movie. Why? Because that's what it is, a MOVIE. Not a bashing against the church. An epic movie.
Some people just dont have the mind to THINK! It is a book! Not the truth... so why is everyone saying its "blasphemy" as it is an idea in one guys head saying that "the Church" is hiding the deepest secrets. That was his idea not the truth to put in a book to make it more interesting. And the fact that other worlds is blasphemy is the Lion the witch and the wardrobe blasphemy? I think not.
Only because it's direct meaning is killing God. Thats what all the fuss is about. Philip Pullman said so himself. He wants to kill god and eradicate religion. But I dont care about the meaning of it. I love the actual story.
Don't take your kids to see thins film! The author made these books with the sole purpose of turning children at a young age away from Jesus Christ. He self proclaims them the anti-Narnia! Boycott this movie and lets show Hollywood that we Christians aren't just sitting around anymore. -1FryShort
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Wow this is just a sorry come back for the passion of Christ. Whoever the stupid Atheist is who made this movie has a spot waiting in hell for them. I can't tell you how sorry i am for the people who in this series actually think you can kill the god who saved u and me.
1. It's not a comeback for the PoC movie (which was terrible). Do your homework: the books were published in 1996.
2. If you can't respect other people's opinions, you have no business commenting on them. Much less "damning them to hell" by yourself. Who are YOU to say who's going to hell or heaven? That sounds pretty big-headed, even for a christian.
The people he said, under religious context, were going to be tortured for the rest of their eternal lives. Unless you think that's a great thing to say about people.
Oh god how i hate youtube arguments. Why are you guys arguing about which is better out of LOTR and this. Just coz they're done by new line cinema why would you compare them. And why on every single trailer of this film are there people arguing about religion. stop it its pathetic! You're gunna have a different oppinion to others and thats fine. Deal with it.
I actually disagree megaman0511. His Dark Materiels is at least twice as good as Harry Potter (keep in mind, I'm a big Potter fan). It's level of writing, subject matter, and concept is just . . .superior. And as for LOTR . . .while there is major argument to be done here, I have to say that HDM is better. LOTR manages to create a massive, developed, and intelligent world, but the characters were just . . .flat.
lotr chars were flat? dude have you read the appendices? or the other books like silmarillion? read them and tell those words again AND I"LL MEET U IN HELL..
hellraiserprajwal, first learn proper grammar, and then bring your opinion, there we can all read and understand at the same time, don't you think ;)?
Fine then... LotR characters were flat? Have you read the appendices? Or the other books like silmarillion? Read them and i'll dare you to say the same again...
Make sure you know all there is to know about something before making comments about it, which in this case, are totally false...
And i'm not saying HDM is not good... Its fabulous in its own way, but it does not have the depth of LotR... Another thing would be HDM is more appealing to the casual novel reader than the bulky LotR... And thats just the books... As it is, it seems the LotR movies had a LOT more success than the TGC...
As to this book being anything like Harry Potter, Tolkeins works of art, or Narnia ...forget it! Someone clearly hasn't read them. There is just no possible comparison! Although, there are some "newbies" out there that come close to being great written works of art - His Dark Materials isn't one of them ... even if it's been out for a while and had a movie made.
I'm a Christian and personally I don't give a shit about faith or God. All I know was that both the books and the movie were excellant and they deserve praise for their creativity.
I couldn't stand the hypocricy. They always seemed to judge so fast and there are so many rules to follow. They say they hate homosexuals and yet I hear stories of priests molesting young boys. People who are christian, as I find with most other religion seem to treat God like he is more of a burden than a priviledge. Not to mention I am fascinated with evolution and despite all the prove it presents the church seems to ignore it.
I have encountered that as well argetfalcon but it does not make me lose my faith in God. As God says, do not put your eyes on man. I know what the church is doing, but I go to this small church, people are really awesome and not judgemental at all...Though most of the churches are very judgmental and it seem slike you're carrying a burden yourself. I agree but you shouldn't lose your faith in God as God has nothing to do with what people are doing since we all got free will, they will pay
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i don't know what proof of evolution you're talking about. there's much more proof for creation than evolution. Evolutionist say the earth is billions of years old- scientists have prooved that the earth is only around 6000 yrs old - before that the sun would be too hot for there to be any kind of life. By the laws of airodynamics the bumble-bee shouldn't be able to fly-yet it does (only possible if it was created). along with too many other facts to mention here. Do your research next time.
I have done research on this subject, in college. And I have found nothing that says what you just said. And what are you saying there is more prove for creation than evolution if that is so how do you explain fossils. A bumblebee flys because it's light weight and it beats it's wings over a thousand times per second. It is you who needs to do research instead of just believing in a two thousand year old scripture that has been altered hundreds of times.
scientist know that the sun is slowly dying, loosing heat. By reversing this, they've found that beyond 6000 years ago the sun would be too hot for there to be any kind of plant life, water etc. That's where i heard it
this movie doesnt even have anything against God. its the stupid books, that lure the kids after the movie. these books are terrible for christian kids, since they lack strong faith. if you are a responsible parent who cares about your 10 year old boy/girl then u should not buy them the book trilogy. if your an adult your a moron for not seeing this movie. i have strong faith so i dont have to worry about what some idiot atheist has to say about God. its only bad for the kids
Ok you want a book review? here it is.I read all three books. I thought they all were well written - the first being a fantastic read ... even given the anti-catholic views you can't help but notice throughout the stories. I don't see the books as detrimental to anyone's faith. It is what it is ...
well written fiction - albeit you wouldn't mind the girl being replaced with a more likeable main character (and maybe gotten rid of some of the daemons. Some were just downright creepy). Someone should have taken notes from Tolkein, Rowling and Lewis. Unfortunately, the movie was a major disappointment. Like Timeline, Da Vinci Code and a few others out there, DON'T READ THE BOOK BEFORE YOU SEE THE MOVIE! You'll be severely disappointed.
Would I let my nine year old read this book? Probably not right now - He has read and enjoyed Lewis and Rowling, but I don't think he's quite ready for Pullman. As my wife a librarian, she would reserve this book for the high-schoolers....maybe even jr. high depending on their level of understanding, but not any younger. Thankfully, we aren't lacking great reads before he's old enough for this one.
I am a fairly conservative catholic (it saddens me that i have to assure the christians here of this before i go on) and I was interested to see how stupidly, aggressively, insultingly, close-mindedly and generally intolerantly (one of the more unchristian qualities in the world) you all argue...if it can be called arguing. If you do indeed think we're going to hell, for watching this, why don't you put your opinions forward like a civilised human being. Just a thought.
I feel sorry for you. This is a fantasy movie, so stop saying stupid crap about religion. Nobody is forcing to watch this if you don´t want to, and you can believe what you want. And why does it hate God? because peolples souls walk beside them? Didnt Lord Voldemort break his soul in seven pieces or something like that? No one said anything to JK. Rowling. So please, let people do whatever they want.
There is nothing anti-christian about this movie. If anything, it emphasizes strong moral values and such. Just because its a fairy tale doesn't mean its trying to bring people away from God. You might as well say that watching The Little Mermaid will send you to Hell.
I watched this movie (b/c I read the book and enjoyed it) and must emphasize one thing if nothing else....IOREK ROCKS HARDCORE MAN!!!
This movie has a few of the coolest fight-scenes ever.
What the fuck is your deal? Seriously buddy, you've been posting your inane little comments all over this board with the intention of, what? Changing people's mind by saying "fucking liberals" and make jokes about scientology? What is it you want 'rosieisahippo'? For everyone to be as miserable as you? I know puberty sucks bud, but we all have to go through it.
I just read The Golden Compass. Now, I'm half-way thru the 2nd book, The Subtle Knife. Both are simply fantastic. I wouldn't miss this movie for the world!
Hey its me again and im gunna c da movie 2morrow and itll rock in its sox ok all u uber religious
people are starting to piss me off and yes my CATHOLIC FRIENDS who go to church every week are going to and the funniest thing is taht we all attend a catholic school lol isnt that funny as o idk HELL
Wow I felt like I was watching the book. The door he burst out of, Lyra's interaction with him, the gun man, everything was how I pictured it. Yay I am so happy. Perhaps now I can recover from the ruination of Queen of the Damned, X-Men, and Silent Hill.
Why do people like the idea of burning for eternity? Yes, i am a Christian, BUT BUT BUT, i am not just spewing words here. Look, even if i wasn't religious, i still would not like the idea of burning. I like the idea of being in an eternal golden, happy area. So why is every excited about going to hell? I just don't understand it. Yes, this movie encourages Athiesim, but at least its not encouraging Satanism.
Let it be, I was raised strictly when it comes to religion and it made me miserable. I support religion, but I do not support organized religion. It is up to us as individuals to decide how to worship our deity whoever it may be. So long as they dont cause harm to others its ok in my book. so let it be!!!!!!!!
those that condone killing and that type of thing, but really that is so ignorant and is unexcusable in the world we live in today. Ironically given our technology and advances so few of us take advantage of what seperates us from other animals, reason. You are one of these individuals i wish you the best of luck in uprooting your ignorance and religious extremism. Perhaps one day you will see what i mean.
Jewel150 it is people like you that will have us living in a world like Farenheit 451. Is it so terrible to have an imagination? Does it have to be interpreted as devil worship or god forsaken literature simply because it doesnt preach the word of god? (Your god to be specific) I am not against any religions in any way, except
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Worthless, stupid, garbage. SOOOOO much computer special effects, moronic story line, and it is written by an idiot. This movie is for people who want to go to hell when they die and eat their own flesh for all eternity. So, parents, go ahead and take your impressionable young children to see this movie written by a man who hates humanity.
Take it easy on the spastic attack there bud, no need to impress your own opinions on other people. If you don't like the movie then you don't have to go see it. The books are just that- books. They are merely presenting a fantasy story in which the catholic church has its faults displayed. The key word in the previous sentence is 'fantasy.' I can't pass full judgement on the film though as I have not seen it, nor has anyone else as of yet. The books though are excellent in my opinion.
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Fucking whining liberals and their faggy art.If you've got a problem with the catholic church why don't you just come out and say fuck the catholic church instead of all of this pretentious melodramatic bullshit art that leads too all of this shit.And I don't think your fucking atheist beliefs are such hot shit there either.Bunch of fucking Stalinists.
The one thing about religion, is that some people try to force it upon people like their religion is the right one or that you just have to, no questions asked, and in my opinion that's just BS. That is why theres so many people who are atheist or those who are against that specific religion. I'm catholic, I believe in God and in Jesus, but even that, I do admit there faults into it. People are just close-minded.
I'm christian, and I don't see too much of a problem here. I could still see this movie and believe in Christ. Besides, I heard from someone they tried to edit out all the anti-Christian stuff in the U.S....
You can't really edit the Anti-Christian stuff out because for the most part all of it is metophorical, and the stuff that is metophorical are major parts of the film. The Gobblers for example represent the Catholic church, and there is no way of removing them.
Oh... I see what you mean. I wouldn't really know about the Gobblers or anything, because I'm not allowed to have anything to do with the movie or the books, (thanks mom!) but I'm also guessing that most of this is subliminal messaging, and people may be influenced without them realizing it. I just wish that none of this got out, and I could just seee this movie and decide for myself...
yes the books are freaking anti christrain -_- im not having a damn spaz attack over it its just a movie after all, and why the hell is everyone so worked up about it anyways just because its against your religion doesnt mean its bad jesus fucking christ get a life people.
>_> Sure Im Jewish, Ive seen some really antisimetic thing, but I dont give a shi, So theres a movie that 'insults' christianity. Borat insults jews. So? I have read the book and it is my favorite(or one of them)books of all time and I think that it is well done. Guess what? IT ISNT ANTI CHRISTIAN!
Phillip Pullman has actually been quoted as saying that his Dark Materials are not exactly anti christian, but still points out its faults. And Borat is making fun of religion, not trying to disprove it.
You know, it's funny. I never had a problem with the church, or Christians while I was reading this book. But now, after listening to bunch of a really stupid people bitch for months, I'm starting to go down the anti-church path . . .thank you stupid people. You've damned one more soul to hell.
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the books and movies are anti-christian and i think that is just plain wrong! i'm pretty much speechless at the author... and that's all i have to say without just unleashing
you know everyones not christain and you have to get over, and if you have a problem with this then don't watch the clips and commet and eveyone as there point of veiw too so why don't you think about that, i am a christain and i look at others point of view first, i don't just go yell at people for not loving god, b/c somtime they could be born into a family who were athiest and didn't really have a chose but this is your opion so why don't you just think before you say!
If a movie were made bashing Judaism or Islam, or Buddhism, people would be up in arms. Why do Christians have to just "shut up & take it"? Total double standard. No, everyone is not Christian & not everyone has to be, but why make and promote a movie that is clearly meant to be insulting to Christianity?
This comment is for those who say that there aren't movies denouncing other religions...i'm pretty sure that Passion of the Christ is a great example of one that does.
I too am really excited about this upcoming movie. However, I've been reading alot of the comments flaming it, saying that in the movie they kill God and how it essentially attacks religion. After reading all of them, I've kinda been getting the idea that a lot of people haven't actually read the series and have been taken sections of the later books out of context.
In the 3rd book, they go to war against "heaven" or basically the angel army. However, the guy they do kill isn't God but a renegade angel who claimed to be. At one point they also refer to him as the great deceiver, a name also associated with the devil. In my opinion, they don't actually kill God, but are in fact killing Satan and the corruption he inspires in churches that haven been given too much power and no one to answer to.
So....even though the Magesterium does bear a strong resemblance to the Catholic church, the version it resembles is the Catholic church of old when it was still a political ruling power in Europe and at which time it did have a lot of problems with corruption of authority.
Either way, I loved the book series and will definitely be in theaters for this one.
Sorry for the awkward posting, I meant for this start with the lowest one posted on top and this one to be read last. Oh well.
Bullshit! Pullman doesn't even know what day it is. I've read lots of comments from him and he contradicts himself at every turn now. He wrote a great trilogy, and the response to that trilogy got out of hand and he simply can't keep everyone happy, especially when they're waving a huge cheque under his nose to endorse this SHIT screenplay - He's a tit who wrote a great trilogy, but that's all he's got. If you don't believe me,
no body likes to mess with a Texan when he's got a gun leveled on 'em;-)
Sorcerersupreme007 9 months ago
i have a contract with the child
LaraCroftDiary 11 months ago
The had better make The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass after all of the 'Harry Potter' and 'Twilight' craze dies down. In the hands of a great director, the trilogy has the potential to become a great film.
I really want to see Lyra and Will, although by the time the movies are produced, Dakota will be to old.
Sad face :'(
lonewolfando 1 year ago
@lonewolfando They aren't going to, at least not as of now... the books are amazing, really very amazing, but: even if you had read, this film became a little confusing in parts, and for those who never read it was a disaster. The director really messed it up, and while I enjoy this movie, I can see why a lot of people did not.
DarthZimmeris 1 year ago
@DarthZimmeris Yea, I read the Subtle Knife and the Amber Spyglass after seeing the first film, it was confusing trying to figure out what had happened to Roger. I'm reading Northern Lights now and i'm already loving it, but I can see, from the parts i've read at the moment, why fans of the book might be disapointed with the film, they missed out quite a lot and i'm only half way through. That and I can't really imagine Lyra differently after seeing Dakota play her.
lonewolfando 1 year ago
currently reading this book in class
spongebobrules999 1 year ago
happy birthday dakota!!!!!!
can2004yon 1 year ago
i love this movie it will all ways be my fave
brewsterlucy114 2 years ago
This scene is awesome.
A) they're scared of the bear
B) Lee is threatening to shoot the guy who's threatening to shoot Lyra
C) the Gyptians are threatenig to shoot the people who are threatening to shoot Lyra.
darklyasnight 2 years ago
There's something that I've been always curious about, are those weapons bolt action rifles from WWII? they look like a Springfield sniper..
r4f4st4n1 2 years ago
this movie is terrible. i dont see the religion thing just a totolitarian type society. ok so the ending sucked mad ass and the main character was too much of a annoyance. i mean she constantly put her foot in her mouth. a main character shouldnt be too bold where the audience hates her. and they still didnt explain dust!
jazzianime 3 years ago
My father is a preacher. I'm agnostic. We both went to go see this movie. It was awesome. :)
Listen, if you have real, strong faith in your religion, a MOVIE or a series of books shouldn't have enough power over you to crush your beliefs. Obviously all of the people bashing the books have secret doubt about Christianity. Or at least that's how it seems.
DivineJustice101 3 years ago 3
People do feel threatened now so they're more likley to be less open minded about movies like this.
Hrubjub 3 years ago
pinche oso cool
BakudanStudios 3 years ago
1:02 THATS THE GUY FROM GHOST RIDER!!!
hes back lol
SafariiiZone 3 years ago
what the fuck?
In the book, iorek ripped their heads off!
what's this limp-dicked pussy shit?
and the ending is that they all floated off in a balloon, happily ever after.
fenderkid6 3 years ago 2
Argh, i LOVE Sam Elliot in that "Let's not be to hasty!" Moment! xD I still dont think it was such a good idea to give Iofur another name. Ragnar sounds rather, wrong to me xD Well the movie is ok ^^ I think iv'e seen it around 30 times up to now xD
DominiqundLaw 3 years ago
SHUT UP! EVERYONE just shut up! There's no point in arguing. it's just a movie. I'm a cristen and I think there's no point in arguing over a silly movie.
simbashadow 3 years ago
...hollywood and responsibility don't seem to go...I guess that make more money off of sensations but as an artist, that part of the business disgusts me!!!!!
phoenixrisingsun 3 years ago
for people who would't understand why the church would be against it...you too need to read a book or at least speak to your neighbor...it is this whole thing with daemons...every one has one WHAT that goes against every thing the church is speaking...and how could movie goers not get this...for example...exorcism of emily rose, the excorist (supposedly based on a true story) its like we are made to believe daemons are evil then they are seen as child hood pets
phoenixrisingsun 3 years ago
i thought iorek was pronounced "I owe rick" not urik well i guess i was wrong
explodingcrack435 3 years ago
Same here. Wait...does that mean "Iofur" is pronounced Yofur?
maplezyrup 3 years ago
Love Sam Elliot even thought it's a shame he's so typecast.
huggkruka 3 years ago
although it's just a book,but some people are very sensitive with it because of their beliefe.
that's why!well,i'm not a cristian but i still like the story and philip pullman.but i hope one day people will reconsider before writing or making a movie if it's related to the religion.
sakuralifad 3 years ago
Love the book, can't wait to see the movie!
MunfyKun 3 years ago
Because apperantly sex was a sign of the devil
Wolfie9X9 3 years ago
Actually the church is evil in a sense (there truthfully isn't a such thing as evil but still) : did you know that when a boy reached the age of puberty in the medieval ages his penis was cut of so he would't be able to have what they call: "sinful pleasure"?!
Wolfie9X9 3 years ago
The key word in that statement is "medieval ages".
They don't do stuff like that anymore because, well, it's nonsensical!
I mean, have you ever talked to a priest? Do they sound fanatical to you? Well, maybe some, but most are just normal people like you or me! No matter what we did in the past, we still are just a group of people joined together by our belief in our saviour.
But, I still love this movie. Why? Because that's what it is, a MOVIE. Not a bashing against the church. An epic movie.
orinationx3 3 years ago 2
A crappy epic movie.
maplezyrup 3 years ago
epic movie?
More like an epic piss on Phillip Pullman's books.
fenderkid6 3 years ago 3
What the...
You just BLANKED OUT everything I SAID about the Catholic Church! What the hell? You guys are really stubborn...
orinationx3 3 years ago 2
best part of the movie
orcafun2007 3 years ago
Some people just dont have the mind to THINK! It is a book! Not the truth... so why is everyone saying its "blasphemy" as it is an idea in one guys head saying that "the Church" is hiding the deepest secrets. That was his idea not the truth to put in a book to make it more interesting. And the fact that other worlds is blasphemy is the Lion the witch and the wardrobe blasphemy? I think not.
AshleyFTW1 4 years ago 2
yea i agree.
i like the cowboy hes cool
shebzeee 3 years ago
Hell yeah!
Wolfie9X9 3 years ago
is something wrong with the movie??
someoone please tell me why everyone is
getting upset over this.
pandachan01 4 years ago 2
The reason every one is getting upset is because the religeos people think it goes against God etc because it deals with the theory of other worlds.
Wolfie9X9 4 years ago
thankx for the info :)
pandachan01 4 years ago
well its weird because no one freaks out about Naria, The Wizard Of OZ, and stuff like that
shebzeee 3 years ago
Only because it's direct meaning is killing God. Thats what all the fuss is about. Philip Pullman said so himself. He wants to kill god and eradicate religion. But I dont care about the meaning of it. I love the actual story.
straightshots 3 years ago
huh?
y is every one getting worked up over this movie?
can someone please tell me?!
pandachan01 4 years ago 2
i really don't know... something about the evil guys looking like catholics or something like that...
shebzeee 3 years ago
"Eh looky here, renforciments."
Hoya19 4 years ago
I can't wait to see this movie. As for the religion part of it-- It was a book, just like the BIBLE was a book. So get over it.
IekelVonLucifer 4 years ago
the polar bear was realy cute if he stands
demonlord1223 4 years ago
"Ah, lookie here, reinforcements."
LOL
ForestWitch101 4 years ago
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i think the movie is OK, the acting wasnt that good actually
jakevader621 4 years ago
The movie is terrific. If you like to be entertained and aren't afraid of free thought then go see it.
dustbunnieboo 4 years ago 13
UserNamesAreDumb, please do us all a great big favour and fuck off.
muley1a 4 years ago 3
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Don't take your kids to see thins film! The author made these books with the sole purpose of turning children at a young age away from Jesus Christ. He self proclaims them the anti-Narnia! Boycott this movie and lets show Hollywood that we Christians aren't just sitting around anymore. -1FryShort
UserNamesAreDumb1 4 years ago
i just saw this film, and its great.
its a shame some people are not allowed to see it
greyhowl 4 years ago 2
yah my friend isn't allowed to see it. she says she doesn't want to but i bet she'd love it if she didn't know about the whole religion nonsense
Owlgirl205 4 years ago
i saw this movie awesome.
vlammetjegirl 4 years ago
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Fuck the golden compass, it's the biggest piece of shit in theatres this year!
Indyfreak18 4 years ago
Aww i love urick bernason :D
If thats how u spell it lol
SouljaGurlxo 4 years ago 2
iorek byrnison..
thats how its in the books atleast...
and his enemy was supposed to be iofur raknison.. but i heard they changed his name in the movie..
hellraiserprajwal 4 years ago
Hellraiserprajwal, they haven't changed the name of Iofur Raknison...
bismark10 4 years ago
they have, they changed it to ragnor :(
GallopingGirl 4 years ago
mabey its just pronounced differently than its spelt? idk.
ForestWitch101 4 years ago
Its Iorek Byrnison.
ZXZ540 4 years ago
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Wow this is just a sorry come back for the passion of Christ. Whoever the stupid Atheist is who made this movie has a spot waiting in hell for them. I can't tell you how sorry i am for the people who in this series actually think you can kill the god who saved u and me.
ryansttl 4 years ago
1. It's not a comeback for the PoC movie (which was terrible). Do your homework: the books were published in 1996.
2. If you can't respect other people's opinions, you have no business commenting on them. Much less "damning them to hell" by yourself. Who are YOU to say who's going to hell or heaven? That sounds pretty big-headed, even for a christian.
crowskyler 4 years ago
ill tell you who he is...he is a person who just did place a comment to express his oppinion and what are you going to do about it
SARecce 4 years ago
Nothing, of course. I just think it was an exceptionally nasty opinion.
crowskyler 4 years ago 3
nasty against who?
12fowler 4 years ago
The people he said, under religious context, were going to be tortured for the rest of their eternal lives. Unless you think that's a great thing to say about people.
crowskyler 4 years ago
Oh god how i hate youtube arguments. Why are you guys arguing about which is better out of LOTR and this. Just coz they're done by new line cinema why would you compare them. And why on every single trailer of this film are there people arguing about religion. stop it its pathetic! You're gunna have a different oppinion to others and thats fine. Deal with it.
oliver12345678910908 4 years ago 5
who is 'his dark materials???
SARecce 4 years ago
his dark materials is the trilogy
lildevil135 4 years ago
philip pullman
Grimreeper102 4 years ago
I actually disagree megaman0511. His Dark Materiels is at least twice as good as Harry Potter (keep in mind, I'm a big Potter fan). It's level of writing, subject matter, and concept is just . . .superior. And as for LOTR . . .while there is major argument to be done here, I have to say that HDM is better. LOTR manages to create a massive, developed, and intelligent world, but the characters were just . . .flat.
azudarko 4 years ago
Pullman did a bad job on the characters as well...So I guess there is no way of saying which is better. There even better authors out there.
megaman0511 4 years ago
lotr chars were flat? dude have you read the appendices? or the other books like silmarillion? read them and tell those words again AND I"LL MEET U IN HELL..
hellraiserprajwal 4 years ago
hellraiserprajwal, first learn proper grammar, and then bring your opinion, there we can all read and understand at the same time, don't you think ;)?
megaman0511 4 years ago
Fine then... LotR characters were flat? Have you read the appendices? Or the other books like silmarillion? Read them and i'll dare you to say the same again...
Make sure you know all there is to know about something before making comments about it, which in this case, are totally false...
hellraiserprajwal 4 years ago
And i'm not saying HDM is not good... Its fabulous in its own way, but it does not have the depth of LotR... Another thing would be HDM is more appealing to the casual novel reader than the bulky LotR... And thats just the books... As it is, it seems the LotR movies had a LOT more success than the TGC...
hellraiserprajwal 4 years ago
Ok I do agree with you hellraiserprajwal.
megaman0511 4 years ago
As to this book being anything like Harry Potter, Tolkeins works of art, or Narnia ...forget it! Someone clearly hasn't read them. There is just no possible comparison! Although, there are some "newbies" out there that come close to being great written works of art - His Dark Materials isn't one of them ... even if it's been out for a while and had a movie made.
megaman0511 4 years ago
I'm a Christian and personally I don't give a shit about faith or God. All I know was that both the books and the movie were excellant and they deserve praise for their creativity.
argetfalcon 4 years ago
then you are not a christian argefalcon LOL...your statement is nonsense.
megaman0511 4 years ago
Okay fine than I was only born a christian and I no longer am one
argetfalcon 4 years ago
Now you make sense argetfalcon..care to share why you're not longer one?
megaman0511 4 years ago
I couldn't stand the hypocricy. They always seemed to judge so fast and there are so many rules to follow. They say they hate homosexuals and yet I hear stories of priests molesting young boys. People who are christian, as I find with most other religion seem to treat God like he is more of a burden than a priviledge. Not to mention I am fascinated with evolution and despite all the prove it presents the church seems to ignore it.
argetfalcon 4 years ago
I have encountered that as well argetfalcon but it does not make me lose my faith in God. As God says, do not put your eyes on man. I know what the church is doing, but I go to this small church, people are really awesome and not judgemental at all...Though most of the churches are very judgmental and it seem slike you're carrying a burden yourself. I agree but you shouldn't lose your faith in God as God has nothing to do with what people are doing since we all got free will, they will pay
megaman0511 4 years ago
it finally comes down to whether you choose to believe in yourself, or some godforsaken imaginary person...
hellraiserprajwal 4 years ago
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i don't know what proof of evolution you're talking about. there's much more proof for creation than evolution. Evolutionist say the earth is billions of years old- scientists have prooved that the earth is only around 6000 yrs old - before that the sun would be too hot for there to be any kind of life. By the laws of airodynamics the bumble-bee shouldn't be able to fly-yet it does (only possible if it was created). along with too many other facts to mention here. Do your research next time.
salveje 4 years ago
I have done research on this subject, in college. And I have found nothing that says what you just said. And what are you saying there is more prove for creation than evolution if that is so how do you explain fossils. A bumblebee flys because it's light weight and it beats it's wings over a thousand times per second. It is you who needs to do research instead of just believing in a two thousand year old scripture that has been altered hundreds of times.
argetfalcon 4 years ago
i haven't read any 2000 year old scripture that says anything about the points for and against creation so i have no idea what you're talking about
salveje 4 years ago
I was taking about the Bible.
argetfalcon 4 years ago
do you really believe that the earth counts only thousands of years?! unbelievable!!
assa010573 4 years ago 2
umm the earth is actually billions of years old. Where did you hear it was 6000?
Wolfie9X9 4 years ago
scientist know that the sun is slowly dying, loosing heat. By reversing this, they've found that beyond 6000 years ago the sun would be too hot for there to be any kind of plant life, water etc. That's where i heard it
salveje 4 years ago
you are so fucking stupid, it just amazes me. ask any scientist, any scientist at all and they will inform you that you're so completely wrong.
supersupercoolya 4 years ago
Thank you!
argetfalcon 4 years ago
the earth is 4.3 billion years old, dumbass. and creationism is a load of bull.
HB2GraphitePencil 4 years ago 8
this movie doesnt even have anything against God. its the stupid books, that lure the kids after the movie. these books are terrible for christian kids, since they lack strong faith. if you are a responsible parent who cares about your 10 year old boy/girl then u should not buy them the book trilogy. if your an adult your a moron for not seeing this movie. i have strong faith so i dont have to worry about what some idiot atheist has to say about God. its only bad for the kids
iamthe12thMan11 4 years ago
Ok you want a book review? here it is.I read all three books. I thought they all were well written - the first being a fantastic read ... even given the anti-catholic views you can't help but notice throughout the stories. I don't see the books as detrimental to anyone's faith. It is what it is ...
megaman0511 4 years ago
well written fiction - albeit you wouldn't mind the girl being replaced with a more likeable main character (and maybe gotten rid of some of the daemons. Some were just downright creepy). Someone should have taken notes from Tolkein, Rowling and Lewis. Unfortunately, the movie was a major disappointment. Like Timeline, Da Vinci Code and a few others out there, DON'T READ THE BOOK BEFORE YOU SEE THE MOVIE! You'll be severely disappointed.
megaman0511 4 years ago
Would I let my nine year old read this book? Probably not right now - He has read and enjoyed Lewis and Rowling, but I don't think he's quite ready for Pullman. As my wife a librarian, she would reserve this book for the high-schoolers....maybe even jr. high depending on their level of understanding, but not any younger. Thankfully, we aren't lacking great reads before he's old enough for this one.
megaman0511 4 years ago
Iorek Byrnison doesn't get NEARLY enough credit as he deserves, like he got in the book (WHich happened to be 50X better)
zteller 4 years ago
I am a fairly conservative catholic (it saddens me that i have to assure the christians here of this before i go on) and I was interested to see how stupidly, aggressively, insultingly, close-mindedly and generally intolerantly (one of the more unchristian qualities in the world) you all argue...if it can be called arguing. If you do indeed think we're going to hell, for watching this, why don't you put your opinions forward like a civilised human being. Just a thought.
DomHorse89 4 years ago
PS can't wait to see this most awesome of FANTASY films
PPS freedom of expression is based on the idea that most people can interpret things objectively without misconstruing it for offence - try that.
DomHorse89 4 years ago
This movie totally makes me wanna throw caution to the wind, cut my body up, and praise the devil. lmao.
MattSakai 4 years ago
i wish people would stop posting crap about religion on here. can't we just enjoy the movie?
LionKingSpirit 4 years ago
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Shame on Nicole Kidman for helping in making this movies. She is a Catholics. How can any Catholic help make a movie that hate God.
phamterry 4 years ago
oh, shut up.
LionKingSpirit 4 years ago
I would love to shut up the stupid movie
phamterry 4 years ago
I feel sorry for you. This is a fantasy movie, so stop saying stupid crap about religion. Nobody is forcing to watch this if you don´t want to, and you can believe what you want. And why does it hate God? because peolples souls walk beside them? Didnt Lord Voldemort break his soul in seven pieces or something like that? No one said anything to JK. Rowling. So please, let people do whatever they want.
worldmaster10 4 years ago
if you dont approve of the movie DONT WATCH IT...its that simple
prepschoolkid 4 years ago
i would not waste my money on it. I heard about it before even the movies came out.
phamterry 4 years ago
Just shut the hell up!
GermanMusician4125 4 years ago
the graphics are amazing!
bunnybuf3291 4 years ago 2
There is nothing anti-christian about this movie. If anything, it emphasizes strong moral values and such. Just because its a fairy tale doesn't mean its trying to bring people away from God. You might as well say that watching The Little Mermaid will send you to Hell.
I watched this movie (b/c I read the book and enjoyed it) and must emphasize one thing if nothing else....IOREK ROCKS HARDCORE MAN!!!
This movie has a few of the coolest fight-scenes ever.
WerewulfByNight 4 years ago
Isn't the dude with the cowboy hat from Ghostrider? o_O
Xao14 4 years ago
Sounds like it.
Nightwish117 4 years ago
Dear rosieisahippo,
What the fuck is your deal? Seriously buddy, you've been posting your inane little comments all over this board with the intention of, what? Changing people's mind by saying "fucking liberals" and make jokes about scientology? What is it you want 'rosieisahippo'? For everyone to be as miserable as you? I know puberty sucks bud, but we all have to go through it.
azudarko 4 years ago
I just read The Golden Compass. Now, I'm half-way thru the 2nd book, The Subtle Knife. Both are simply fantastic. I wouldn't miss this movie for the world!
juanxyah 4 years ago
Hey its me again and im gunna c da movie 2morrow and itll rock in its sox ok all u uber religious
people are starting to piss me off and yes my CATHOLIC FRIENDS who go to church every week are going to and the funniest thing is taht we all attend a catholic school lol isnt that funny as o idk HELL
XXULTIMA101XX 4 years ago
Evil always wears a good looking mask, figure it out people...
bomac10000 4 years ago
i have a contract with the child lol
ballezofsepang 4 years ago 2
Wow I felt like I was watching the book. The door he burst out of, Lyra's interaction with him, the gun man, everything was how I pictured it. Yay I am so happy. Perhaps now I can recover from the ruination of Queen of the Damned, X-Men, and Silent Hill.
SixDoubleFive321 4 years ago
Why do people like the idea of burning for eternity? Yes, i am a Christian, BUT BUT BUT, i am not just spewing words here. Look, even if i wasn't religious, i still would not like the idea of burning. I like the idea of being in an eternal golden, happy area. So why is every excited about going to hell? I just don't understand it. Yes, this movie encourages Athiesim, but at least its not encouraging Satanism.
zak8292 4 years ago 2
Let it be, I was raised strictly when it comes to religion and it made me miserable. I support religion, but I do not support organized religion. It is up to us as individuals to decide how to worship our deity whoever it may be. So long as they dont cause harm to others its ok in my book. so let it be!!!!!!!!
superpokerman 4 years ago 3
this movie will be amazing
SoldiersofDemolition 4 years ago 3
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those that condone killing and that type of thing, but really that is so ignorant and is unexcusable in the world we live in today. Ironically given our technology and advances so few of us take advantage of what seperates us from other animals, reason. You are one of these individuals i wish you the best of luck in uprooting your ignorance and religious extremism. Perhaps one day you will see what i mean.
suckonthislolly 4 years ago 2
Jewel150 it is people like you that will have us living in a world like Farenheit 451. Is it so terrible to have an imagination? Does it have to be interpreted as devil worship or god forsaken literature simply because it doesnt preach the word of god? (Your god to be specific) I am not against any religions in any way, except
suckonthislolly 4 years ago 2
I am soooo jazzed about seeing this tomorrow.
I hope it follows the book!
AnonymousWatcher 4 years ago
:) Awesome.
Onision 4 years ago
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Worthless, stupid, garbage. SOOOOO much computer special effects, moronic story line, and it is written by an idiot. This movie is for people who want to go to hell when they die and eat their own flesh for all eternity. So, parents, go ahead and take your impressionable young children to see this movie written by a man who hates humanity.
jewell150 4 years ago
Take it easy on the spastic attack there bud, no need to impress your own opinions on other people. If you don't like the movie then you don't have to go see it. The books are just that- books. They are merely presenting a fantasy story in which the catholic church has its faults displayed. The key word in the previous sentence is 'fantasy.' I can't pass full judgement on the film though as I have not seen it, nor has anyone else as of yet. The books though are excellent in my opinion.
swammi1203 4 years ago 2
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Fucking whining liberals and their faggy art.If you've got a problem with the catholic church why don't you just come out and say fuck the catholic church instead of all of this pretentious melodramatic bullshit art that leads too all of this shit.And I don't think your fucking atheist beliefs are such hot shit there either.Bunch of fucking Stalinists.
rosieisahippo 4 years ago
hey piss head!
go bitch somewhere else!
FUCKING RELIGIOUS EXTREMISTS LIKE YOU ARE THE REAL PEOPLE WHO HATE HUMANITY.
monkeysuit13 4 years ago
I could care less if i went to hell.. if it fucking existed!!!!
Durzah 4 years ago
you'll be singing another tune after the first 1,000 years of burning but not burning.
Oooh feel the burn.Isn't it sexy?
rosieisahippo 4 years ago
Dickface.
Read the book, and put down your forced-religion opinions.
AnonymousWatcher 4 years ago
The one thing about religion, is that some people try to force it upon people like their religion is the right one or that you just have to, no questions asked, and in my opinion that's just BS. That is why theres so many people who are atheist or those who are against that specific religion. I'm catholic, I believe in God and in Jesus, but even that, I do admit there faults into it. People are just close-minded.
silentsaito 4 years ago
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the 'G' compass 666
rosieisahippo 4 years ago
Liberalism666
rosieisahippo 4 years ago
We had to suffer through The Passion, why can't you see this? I guess the lack of 2 hours of torture is a downside.
critias7 4 years ago
I'm christian, and I don't see too much of a problem here. I could still see this movie and believe in Christ. Besides, I heard from someone they tried to edit out all the anti-Christian stuff in the U.S....
ilikes2laugh 4 years ago
You can't really edit the Anti-Christian stuff out because for the most part all of it is metophorical, and the stuff that is metophorical are major parts of the film. The Gobblers for example represent the Catholic church, and there is no way of removing them.
antiquesroadshow101 4 years ago
Oh... I see what you mean. I wouldn't really know about the Gobblers or anything, because I'm not allowed to have anything to do with the movie or the books, (thanks mom!) but I'm also guessing that most of this is subliminal messaging, and people may be influenced without them realizing it. I just wish that none of this got out, and I could just seee this movie and decide for myself...
ilikes2laugh 4 years ago
yes the books are freaking anti christrain -_- im not having a damn spaz attack over it its just a movie after all, and why the hell is everyone so worked up about it anyways just because its against your religion doesnt mean its bad jesus fucking christ get a life people.
ErinTheElven 4 years ago
>_> Sure Im Jewish, Ive seen some really antisimetic thing, but I dont give a shi, So theres a movie that 'insults' christianity. Borat insults jews. So? I have read the book and it is my favorite(or one of them)books of all time and I think that it is well done. Guess what? IT ISNT ANTI CHRISTIAN!
johnnywup 4 years ago 2
Phillip Pullman has actually been quoted as saying that his Dark Materials are not exactly anti christian, but still points out its faults. And Borat is making fun of religion, not trying to disprove it.
antiquesroadshow101 4 years ago
:o Wow, sounds like a bunch of people don't like this movie. -Trying to decide whether I should watch this or Alvin & The Chipmunks- ._.
CoDeRaNDoM 4 years ago
Golden Compass. Period.
johnnywup 4 years ago
You know, it's funny. I never had a problem with the church, or Christians while I was reading this book. But now, after listening to bunch of a really stupid people bitch for months, I'm starting to go down the anti-church path . . .thank you stupid people. You've damned one more soul to hell.
azudarko 4 years ago 3
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fuck this author in the ass with his anti-christian bullshit
nfs892 4 years ago
That would be unleashing
theaceofspadez 4 years ago
what is your problem! have u read the book even?!?
you are so retarded!!!!! AGAIN WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM!?!? F U!
Madimoo14 4 years ago
hell, can u read?
SoccerBallin117 4 years ago
You don't seem very Christian, being as you swore 3 times in this comment, so why do you care?
antiquesroadshow101 4 years ago
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the books and movies are anti-christian and i think that is just plain wrong! i'm pretty much speechless at the author... and that's all i have to say without just unleashing
liveitup99 4 years ago
you know everyones not christain and you have to get over, and if you have a problem with this then don't watch the clips and commet and eveyone as there point of veiw too so why don't you think about that, i am a christain and i look at others point of view first, i don't just go yell at people for not loving god, b/c somtime they could be born into a family who were athiest and didn't really have a chose but this is your opion so why don't you just think before you say!
SailorMoon2010 4 years ago 2
If a movie were made bashing Judaism or Islam, or Buddhism, people would be up in arms. Why do Christians have to just "shut up & take it"? Total double standard. No, everyone is not Christian & not everyone has to be, but why make and promote a movie that is clearly meant to be insulting to Christianity?
khudozhnik 4 years ago
i completely agree this is a bunch of bullshit all the books did weas bash catholics so i dont plan on going to see it
jsb269 4 years ago
Let me guess...never read the books? Didn't even hear of them until your local pastor told you they were "eeeevil?"
I'm betting you didn't read that the US Council of Catholic Bishops said the books were "intelligent and well-crafted entertainment?"
Yeah, I thought not. People like you don't read.
potterama 4 years ago
"Passion of the Christ" anyone?
violin1158 4 years ago
This comment is for those who say that there aren't movies denouncing other religions...i'm pretty sure that Passion of the Christ is a great example of one that does.
violin1158 4 years ago
why does the exterior of that building look exactly like the interior of a Russian Orthodox Church?!
khudozhnik 4 years ago
in the book several of the police died right?? but here he doesnt even swing!!! and they dont fure!!!!!! This movie is going to be crap.......
chalkoo 4 years ago
Fire i meant to say..
chalkoo 4 years ago
it's not THAT bad, but you are right, they eliminated 90% of the violence and they have one rule: NO CHILD DIES. That sucks^^
However, they have at least some violence, in the epic battles; there is no blood, but you see the daemons really EXPLODE, and that's a good thing.
neoZykl 4 years ago
if that's your biggest pet peeve.
you shall be sorely disappointed.
iloveyourfedora 4 years ago
the movie is a bit watered down. but no 12 or 11 yr old would be aloud to see it if it were like the book. and thats the age its targeted for.
sap19ele 4 years ago
the movie is rubbish compared to the book, all mention of god is taken out and the ending is ruined. cause its not the same as the books
sebsimba 4 years ago
Actaully, I think the author even said it was about "Killing God"
UserNamesAreDumb1 4 years ago
No. In the book there is no mention of god, only "The Authority", whom is, if I remember correctly, the first angel CLAIMING to be god.
ChildProgeny 4 years ago 3
I too am really excited about this upcoming movie. However, I've been reading alot of the comments flaming it, saying that in the movie they kill God and how it essentially attacks religion. After reading all of them, I've kinda been getting the idea that a lot of people haven't actually read the series and have been taken sections of the later books out of context.
retrobebop13 4 years ago 2
SPOILER ALERT DON'T READ FURTHER
In the 3rd book, they go to war against "heaven" or basically the angel army. However, the guy they do kill isn't God but a renegade angel who claimed to be. At one point they also refer to him as the great deceiver, a name also associated with the devil. In my opinion, they don't actually kill God, but are in fact killing Satan and the corruption he inspires in churches that haven been given too much power and no one to answer to.
END OF SPOILERS END OF SPOILERS
retrobebop13 4 years ago 3
So....even though the Magesterium does bear a strong resemblance to the Catholic church, the version it resembles is the Catholic church of old when it was still a political ruling power in Europe and at which time it did have a lot of problems with corruption of authority.
Either way, I loved the book series and will definitely be in theaters for this one.
Sorry for the awkward posting, I meant for this start with the lowest one posted on top and this one to be read last. Oh well.
retrobebop13 4 years ago 2
RE:SPOILER ALERT DON'T READ FURTHER
Er...you do realize that in the books there IS no God or Satan, only dust, and its love of matter, the whole meaning of existence.
zoltai9 4 years ago
Your opinion about the author's intent is wrong. In his words, from an interview with the Washington Post on 2/19/01. entitled The Last Word.
"I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief." - Phillip Pullman
The books, the movie, the author, all anti-Christian. Do some reading and get the facts for yourself.
hammmeggs 4 years ago
I could care less about his intent. Regardless of what it is, this is what I took away from the book. This is my interpretation.
retrobebop13 4 years ago
Bullshit! Pullman doesn't even know what day it is. I've read lots of comments from him and he contradicts himself at every turn now. He wrote a great trilogy, and the response to that trilogy got out of hand and he simply can't keep everyone happy, especially when they're waving a huge cheque under his nose to endorse this SHIT screenplay - He's a tit who wrote a great trilogy, but that's all he's got. If you don't believe me,