@nicolasb53 Be a slave and do what you are told huh? I got news for you, you can refuse orders from police and it is not violence. You can challenge the police in court.
Police are noobs no mistake there...but if people want to worship The Church of Scientology,The Devil,or Me. why not let them? its there freedom to do so,cult or not,once you take that away your taking away your own freedom.
Wait! The cult of scientology gave presents to the police that were worth thousands of pounds? So basically, the cops were bought out to disobey Freedom of Speech? BULLSHIT!!! Corrupt police dogs, i used to have respect for the police, yet this is now fading out after this.
Fucking bitch Cops... All fucking slaves to the man. You coppers are sucking the boss's dick and you still don't get your raise.. you do it for free and you destroy other employees of the establishment who are at the bottom, the ones who are responsible for cleaning up after your shit and making the food in the cafeteria ... the civilians of society. FUCK YOU for your Evil and Wrongdoings FUCK YOU!
Encyclopædia Britannica: "church, in architecture, a building designed for Christian worship. " and "church, in Christian doctrine, the Christian religious community as a whole, or a body or organization of Christian believers."
Scientology is not a church its a money making scam
This was a great article. Tha BEST. Anonymous pottests have steadily died since then, now its tough for them to muster 3 or four deluded kids, they can, if they promisse mc donalds afterwards
I'm glad we have free speech here in america. See the thing they are referring to in the public order act is an offense can be if somebody displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting. The insulting thing is what gets me. Anybody can claim to be insulted by anything, the question or not is if it is true. Scientology does fit the definition of cult so it shouldn't matter whether it is offensive or not.
Funny how everyone is so extremely against Scientology and talk of how ridiculous it is, and yet every other religion is the exact same basic thing. (Well depending on how sternly you follow it.)
I mean I realize that Scientology is a lot more hardcore but still...
@KidsWithGuns1992 Of course a lot of them are fucked up. This one in particular needs more attention though. They need their tax exemption pulled on the grounds that none of their activities are charitable. At least the Catholics and Christians feed the homeless.
@AgentxAnonymous Obviously I'm being lazy in my explanation, and I'm not saying ALL religions do ALL of these things, but my point I suppose is there seems to be some form of corruption/s in most religions. Scientology is obviously oppressive blah blah blah you get my point.
and another point. What about when all of those Muslims took to the streets of London a few years ago in the fury of those Danish cartoons insulting the prophet Mohamed? I didn't see the police telling them to put their signs away saying 'slaughter those who insult Islam!', and 'freedom go to hell!'. Oh yeah, i forgot.. they were doing it in the name of religion. They have immunity from the cops don't they
The police in this country are absolutely f*cking useless. They never do anything about SERIOUS crimes. But they'll be down on you like a ton of bricks if you're one day behind with your car tax or something like that. At least in the USA the cops recognize the right to protest. Over here it's as though protesting is worse than murder. I wouldn't be at all surprised if every one of those cops in this video had taken bribes from Scientology, bent f*cks
The London police in question had been given guidelines for this very issue, but they ignored it and bent over for the cult. CPS wasn't happy having to deal with it.
Wow, this is a pretty smart piece of journalism. Very fair but at the same time objective. Facts are not opinions as Fox News here in the united states likes to assert, and this program certainly gets this concept. The only problem is that Scientology conflates the cyber criminals with anyone who might oppose scientology which went without correction.
Police officers acting purely out of greed. Who would have thunk it? /sarcasm
Glad my grand father isn't alive to see this bullshit. He was a strong man, but seeing his fellow officers fall so far... I have no doubt the poor man would cry.
I don't doubt that the cult of $cientology got their overworked lawyers to find a way to try to silence their critics...and like many attempts failed.
The cult statement was typically full of accusations without proof but, to the knowledegable, sound more like admission of guilt.
i understand the police's point of view here, but is Section 5 doing a service to the public, or are people vicitims of Section 5? they have to look at the context of the words "cult", "evil", etc., how/where those words are used, by whom, against whom, and so on.
in the US, there would be similar enforecment, but at least a lot of leeway would be allowable. you have to explicitly state a motive of violence or harassment. in the british examples, Section 5 not applied properly!
Waitiminit....Christianity doesn't foist their views on others (for the most part) Nor do they murder dissidents, or kill those inside their ranks when they disobey...<_< You're comparing apples and pears, copper....
Don't hate on the cops. As was said, they have to act on the laws as they exist, and decide how to handle the gray areas of the law then and there. Most of the time they will err on the side of safety. The scope of the law needs to be decided by the courts, not by cops in the street.
Thanks for that insightful and enlightening reply. You've revealed to me the errors inherent in my opinions and I feel compelled to come around to your way of thinking.
At 7:00, the Police compare Scintology to Christianity. Difference between the two? Christianity is a religion, whilst Scientology is purely a sci-fi cult, covered up by an expensive councilling club (London centre has a gym for members).
Most christian churches keep you close minded by keeping you in fear of Hell; if the pastor dislikes something, he can say you'll go to Hell, or even worse he can tarnish your reputation behind your back because people will take his word since he's a pastor. Most christians are only christians because of fear of a place that doesn't exist as far as we know.
Ah, I see you are talking about Christianity in America; I'm from the UK and as yet, I have yet to hear about Vicars (our pastors) taling behind people's backs for questioning their views. Also, Christianity is not about controlling the massess in order to keep the cheques paid, its about administering God's word to the people who need it.
Dont any of you actually watch things before jumping to conclusions?
Channel 4 News was clearly reporting from a middleman approach and reported the bribery scientologists did to the police and showed even their own reporter being victimized by police.
Then went on to prove that free speech was trying to be supressed.
Stop guessing and watch the fucking video.
Its idiots that dont pay attention that make anon look stupider everyday.
News outlets may not bother defending you next time.
Would it not have been smart for that Lee fellow to allow himself to be arrested and have his case thrown out of court? That appears to be how Cult made it back on the placards. He would have added evil and brainwashing to the lexicon singlehandedly :).
if they don't want you to talk about it's probably right on. and scientologists are compartmentalized sects majoring in another facit of psycho pediphilic nuts. just like foster homes the cia and the catholic church, to name some of the known ones.
What I can't for the life of me understand is how these rich, famous and otherwise seemingly intelligent people get wrapped up in this ridiculous bullshit. What could they possibly be told. And why do they ultimately say "yea, ok, that sounds great." And how about this for a future crime, Public Identity Concealment.
Free speach is a right, Kitch, but with every right comes great responsibility and I think that that simple fact has largly been forgotten in today's society.
An anti abortionist or an animal rights activist has the right to protest, they don't have the right to physically attack the subject of their protest, however.
If individuals aren't responsible in how they practice the right to protest and free speech then the fundamental rights, as guaranteed in the constitution aren't worth the paper that they're written on.
We were afforded those rights with the recent model of England's tyranny against the new world in mind, if we turn around and use those right to be tyrannical ourselves, the church in this video is a good example of that, then we are abusing those rights.
Let me get this straight. A group of non-violent, orderly protesters expressing their convictions are threatened & arrested by police for calling Scientology a cult?
I am very surprised that in England people are restrained by police from articulating sincerely held beliefs in public. It's a very short step from the state deciding what you cannot say/believe to the state saying what you MUST believe and that's fascism. Scary.
If we aren't allowed to protest, then for God's sakes, why are they allowed to torture? To track us and ruin our lives? To nearly enslave the members of their "religion"?
arrest the police they are bisexual paedofiles, that scrubber is impersonating a police officer, sinister bastards. the only thing that is brainwashed and evil are the police.
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hey hey, all Christians get over it, theres a much worse cult out their, god , who really cares, did Scientology pick on you, did they tell you that your stupid, probly not , your all the same just bitching about something you dont understand
@onedollarush - You say we are bitching about things we dont understand? I was in your cult my whole life. how am i misunderstanding it? there are now more critics of $cientology than actual $cientologists. thats how destructive cults are and this is the worst of them all.
@SmellyBones - That cult (heavens gate) doesnt really exist anymore. I should have said "worst current cult" Ill be more specific next time. (scientologist arent far from "drinking the coolade". They are already willing to hurt people for their beliefs.
This is fantastic. Very positive news coverage. I particularly liked how at 1:39 the reporter says "Scientology offers to free humans from alien spirits which is says possess us all." Scientologists have to pay thousands of pounds to read OT3 level and learn that it's a UFO cult... and here's the news giving out that info for free.
Priceless. And the $cifags didn't comment upon that, simply calling us a hate group as usual. Epic.
! ! ! $cientology is a dangerous crime syndicate. ! $cientology is full of murder and lies. ! $cientology threatens and intimidates anyone who speaks against it. ! ! Ask a $cientologist: WhyAreTheyDead(dot)net ! ! ! !
uhh, so what are you getting at? what im saying is its all the same bullshit, you simple minded fools cant see past your own ways, but what ever believe what you want to, in the end its all the same,
sock puppet accounts? no there was no mix up, it was directed at you, so dont play stupid, anyways i could care less to debate with someone like you i have better things to do, so bye bye have a nice life ^_^
And it's strange that the report doesn't go into detail that Anonymous have proof of their claims and that scientology has a history of attacking critics.
police be goin over their own heads. free speach aka harassment? bullcrap, police grabbing a reporter and saying hes not who he is? now that is fucked up, looks like a move to surpress free speach altogether. ''help help im being opressed''
The "C" word? Cult is now the "C" word? So I guess the "C" word I grew up with no longer matters?
Amazing the level of disinformation that the Scientologists attempt to push regarding their nutty little cult. I salute anonymous for its preserverence against these maniacs.
Finally, the public informed about how their country is becoming a police state under the direction of $cilons! The question needs be asked: "How would Jonestown have been different if people had sounded the alarm of Cult before the Kool Aid had been served?"
If the term 'cult' is false, the courts can resolve it through the recourse due to libel and slander victims.
Disallowing the protests is very fascist and needs to be looked at in-depth.
Then at the end, the Church of Scientology throws out a red herring combined with an ad hominem and gross generalization. They say anonymous's soul intention is to harass and that anonymous has harasses others in the past. First of all, anonymous is anyone who doesn't reveal their identity, period. There are anonymous people to thank for many dangerous criminals being arrested, and there are criminals who are anonymous. Instead of answering any allegation, they just attack the opponent.
At around 7:00, they use the tired old special pleading fallacy "what if it was christianity they were calling an evil brain washing cult?".
Yeah? What if? It doesn't fucking matter. Nothing should be exempt from criticism. NOTHING. Anonymous should be less subjective and try to stick to the facts, but there is no such thing as "Hate Speech", unless we're living in Oceania 1984, in which case you would call it "thought crime".
anonimus wave I want to be part of the law ami soup and I do not like piracy
asss4955 1 week ago
i support anonymous scientology is bullshit
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'epic nose guy' i lold, such a sick name though (:
elitepandaa 1 week ago
if people wanna support a cult or Religion, then why not let them?
no wonder I support Anonymous
MegaSOSbrigade 1 week ago
Section 5 does not work...
Obey All Police Officers and Do not Provoke Violence
nicolasb53 8 months ago
@nicolasb53 Be a slave and do what you are told huh? I got news for you, you can refuse orders from police and it is not violence. You can challenge the police in court.
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Police are noobs no mistake there...but if people want to worship The Church of Scientology,The Devil,or Me. why not let them? its there freedom to do so,cult or not,once you take that away your taking away your own freedom.
LokiV 9 months ago
Wait! The cult of scientology gave presents to the police that were worth thousands of pounds? So basically, the cops were bought out to disobey Freedom of Speech? BULLSHIT!!! Corrupt police dogs, i used to have respect for the police, yet this is now fading out after this.
Fowtowsjop 11 months ago
Nice to know that the US isn't the only place where cops are assholes.
Dudethatstrippin 1 year ago
Fucking bitch Cops... All fucking slaves to the man. You coppers are sucking the boss's dick and you still don't get your raise.. you do it for free and you destroy other employees of the establishment who are at the bottom, the ones who are responsible for cleaning up after your shit and making the food in the cafeteria ... the civilians of society. FUCK YOU for your Evil and Wrongdoings FUCK YOU!
Takiado 1 year ago
bwahahaha england sucks so much, no way THAT would have happened in france
moiseman 1 year ago
Scientology r fail
irboredable 1 year ago
CULTCULTCULTCULTCULTCULTCULTCULT
come at me, bro
staircaseto 1 year ago
Hmm if scientology is a religion does that mean I can believe in Battlestar Galactica as a religion?
SighNapse1 1 year ago
every religion is a cult
t0rta 1 year ago
@t0rta exactly
Takiado 1 year ago
Can't use the world "cult" huh? okay, let's censor the signs then... "Scientology is a C#%T!".. let's see how well that goes over
PhantomSavage 1 year ago
@PhantomSavage did you mean to do that? lol
jackedupcrackersman 1 year ago
yeah at least i dont have to pay to be a christian.
Dstev85 1 year ago
@Dstev85 if you live in england you do. even if you're not christian... the government tithes to the churches using tax money
QCreyton 1 year ago
Encyclopædia Britannica: "church, in architecture, a building designed for Christian worship. " and "church, in Christian doctrine, the Christian religious community as a whole, or a body or organization of Christian believers."
Scientology is not a church its a money making scam
just1believer 1 year ago
Anonmymous is pleased.
4ChanAnonymous1 1 year ago
these sientology assholes are everywhere!
Oblfreak 1 year ago
Hey UK! No Free speech and no guns. You guys are now total slaves. You need a revolution. Desperately.
AgentxAnonymous 1 year ago
This was a great article. Tha BEST. Anonymous pottests have steadily died since then, now its tough for them to muster 3 or four deluded kids, they can, if they promisse mc donalds afterwards
robyonder 1 year ago
I'm glad we have free speech here in america. See the thing they are referring to in the public order act is an offense can be if somebody displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting. The insulting thing is what gets me. Anybody can claim to be insulted by anything, the question or not is if it is true. Scientology does fit the definition of cult so it shouldn't matter whether it is offensive or not.
sunset261 1 year ago
0:48
"Scentology cured my dislexia"
HAHAHA
BreakingTheHabit100 1 year ago
$₡৳€₦₮¤£¤₲¥ always makes me smile
happyking9 1 year ago
More petty policing from the 'police'.
Congrats.
disneyguy556 1 year ago
police harassing protesters. In $cientology's pocket, surprise, surprise.
DECIMUS771 1 year ago
Funny how everyone is so extremely against Scientology and talk of how ridiculous it is, and yet every other religion is the exact same basic thing. (Well depending on how sternly you follow it.)
I mean I realize that Scientology is a lot more hardcore but still...
Though I am completely in favour of Anonymous.
KidsWithGuns1992 1 year ago
@KidsWithGuns1992 How many "religions" do you know that run gulags? Torture their members? Fair game? Disconnection? World domination? Racketeering?
AgentxAnonymous 1 year ago
@AgentxAnonymous Well some are more profound than others, but you can pretty much see it to a certain extent in almost all of them.
KidsWithGuns1992 1 year ago
@KidsWithGuns1992 Of course a lot of them are fucked up. This one in particular needs more attention though. They need their tax exemption pulled on the grounds that none of their activities are charitable. At least the Catholics and Christians feed the homeless.
AgentxAnonymous 1 year ago
@AgentxAnonymous Obviously I'm being lazy in my explanation, and I'm not saying ALL religions do ALL of these things, but my point I suppose is there seems to be some form of corruption/s in most religions. Scientology is obviously oppressive blah blah blah you get my point.
KidsWithGuns1992 1 year ago
and another point. What about when all of those Muslims took to the streets of London a few years ago in the fury of those Danish cartoons insulting the prophet Mohamed? I didn't see the police telling them to put their signs away saying 'slaughter those who insult Islam!', and 'freedom go to hell!'. Oh yeah, i forgot.. they were doing it in the name of religion. They have immunity from the cops don't they
opensourcethong 1 year ago
The police in this country are absolutely f*cking useless. They never do anything about SERIOUS crimes. But they'll be down on you like a ton of bricks if you're one day behind with your car tax or something like that. At least in the USA the cops recognize the right to protest. Over here it's as though protesting is worse than murder. I wouldn't be at all surprised if every one of those cops in this video had taken bribes from Scientology, bent f*cks
opensourcethong 1 year ago
Id love to see a cop try to tell me i cant say a word. If anyone at all tried to tell me i cant say brainwash cult or evil id laugh so hard.
sociopathix 1 year ago 2
EPIC NOSE GUY FTW!
AnAnonymousLegion 2 years ago
Down with the pyramid scheme known as sientology
askitso 2 years ago 3
Epic Nose Guy lulz.
DrGorgenflex 2 years ago
The London police in question had been given guidelines for this very issue, but they ignored it and bent over for the cult. CPS wasn't happy having to deal with it.
CalamityKessel 2 years ago
Wow, this is a pretty smart piece of journalism. Very fair but at the same time objective. Facts are not opinions as Fox News here in the united states likes to assert, and this program certainly gets this concept. The only problem is that Scientology conflates the cyber criminals with anyone who might oppose scientology which went without correction.
DeimosSaturn 2 years ago
ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS!
sandeyboy 2 years ago
Amen.
AnAnonymousLegion 2 years ago
The thought police have arrived.
benthemiester 2 years ago
Well done News4, great report.
AnonNed 2 years ago 2
Cops on the take?
Really? Imagine that.
Police officers acting purely out of greed. Who would have thunk it? /sarcasm
Glad my grand father isn't alive to see this bullshit. He was a strong man, but seeing his fellow officers fall so far... I have no doubt the poor man would cry.
RIP human morality. You are greatly missed.
Kalenos 2 years ago 2
I don't doubt that the cult of $cientology got their overworked lawyers to find a way to try to silence their critics...and like many attempts failed.
The cult statement was typically full of accusations without proof but, to the knowledegable, sound more like admission of guilt.
laserofjustice 2 years ago
ANONYMOUS WILL WIN YOU SCIENTOLOGIST SOBs
3fan123 2 years ago 3
epic nose guy ftw LOL
speaketh64 2 years ago
i understand the police's point of view here, but is Section 5 doing a service to the public, or are people vicitims of Section 5? they have to look at the context of the words "cult", "evil", etc., how/where those words are used, by whom, against whom, and so on.
in the US, there would be similar enforecment, but at least a lot of leeway would be allowable. you have to explicitly state a motive of violence or harassment. in the british examples, Section 5 not applied properly!
jas22 2 years ago
The Church of Scientology must FALL!
tangoman111 2 years ago 51
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@tangoman111 Scientology in its present form must FALL!
just1believer 1 year ago
@tangoman111 Dude i bet you dont even get what it is...
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Waitiminit....Christianity doesn't foist their views on others (for the most part) Nor do they murder dissidents, or kill those inside their ranks when they disobey...<_< You're comparing apples and pears, copper....
LirrenShentai 2 years ago
O_O Anons are a lot friendlier across the pond...
LirrenShentai 2 years ago 2
what do you mean?
rugbycrazyrugbymad 2 years ago
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What's wrong with their accents? They need to speak American!
wwhite4243 2 years ago
it's english....honestly.
rugbycrazyrugbymad 2 years ago
that pussy should have keept the sign up.... im dissapointed
Taquitos490 2 years ago
Epic nose guy
Ben1monster 2 years ago
Don't hate on the cops. As was said, they have to act on the laws as they exist, and decide how to handle the gray areas of the law then and there. Most of the time they will err on the side of safety. The scope of the law needs to be decided by the courts, not by cops in the street.
SBFloppie 2 years ago
You're a dumbass.
LirrenShentai 2 years ago
Thanks for that insightful and enlightening reply. You've revealed to me the errors inherent in my opinions and I feel compelled to come around to your way of thinking.
SBFloppie 2 years ago
The Cops are fucking corrupt Fuck Scientology they are and EVIL BRAINWASHING CULT
iwasonceallama 2 years ago 38
EVIL CULT FUCK U COPS
hate4uall 2 years ago
At 7:00, the Police compare Scintology to Christianity. Difference between the two? Christianity is a religion, whilst Scientology is purely a sci-fi cult, covered up by an expensive councilling club (London centre has a gym for members).
sk8rfella 2 years ago
they're both cults, but christianity is older.
R1colientje 2 years ago
Oooo harsh words. Which branch of Christianity are you refering too, coz the religion i follow certainly isn't anything like a cult.
sk8rfella 2 years ago
Most christian churches keep you close minded by keeping you in fear of Hell; if the pastor dislikes something, he can say you'll go to Hell, or even worse he can tarnish your reputation behind your back because people will take his word since he's a pastor. Most christians are only christians because of fear of a place that doesn't exist as far as we know.
DeftJay 2 years ago
Ah, I see you are talking about Christianity in America; I'm from the UK and as yet, I have yet to hear about Vicars (our pastors) taling behind people's backs for questioning their views. Also, Christianity is not about controlling the massess in order to keep the cheques paid, its about administering God's word to the people who need it.
sk8rfella 2 years ago
Thats just it. God's word isn't 'God's' words its a corrupt mans word. The bible wasn't made by any god.
DeftJay 2 years ago
that was true in the dark ages maybe.
rugbycrazyrugbymad 2 years ago
Dude don't bring christianity to this. im not one but i do beleive in God. don't compare it to scientology, that's just messed up.
joinemeindeath 2 years ago 2
lol sorry regarding the comment about comparing christianity to scientlogy was meant for u sorry
joinemeindeath 2 years ago
$cientology kills.
p3ppyhar3 2 years ago 2
Dont any of you actually watch things before jumping to conclusions?
Channel 4 News was clearly reporting from a middleman approach and reported the bribery scientologists did to the police and showed even their own reporter being victimized by police.
Then went on to prove that free speech was trying to be supressed.
Stop guessing and watch the fucking video.
Its idiots that dont pay attention that make anon look stupider everyday.
News outlets may not bother defending you next time.
Nolebrab 2 years ago
Channel 4 probably been bought over... it's classic modern journalism...
ragabonds 2 years ago
Channel 4 are cunts.
ragabonds 2 years ago
You have my support!
boolet7375 2 years ago 2
so obv, scientology tries to win over loads of police Etc. sending gifst when they arrest someone for calling em a cult, wich isent illegal..
Paneatix 2 years ago 2
Wow, this is a clear violation of free speech. I had no idea England was such a repressed backwards country.
ArchNME 2 years ago 2
it's not but the police ar in the pockets of scientology
northanortha 2 years ago 2
Would it not have been smart for that Lee fellow to allow himself to be arrested and have his case thrown out of court? That appears to be how Cult made it back on the placards. He would have added evil and brainwashing to the lexicon singlehandedly :).
thegirl44 2 years ago
if they don't want you to talk about it's probably right on. and scientologists are compartmentalized sects majoring in another facit of psycho pediphilic nuts. just like foster homes the cia and the catholic church, to name some of the known ones.
Idolcruisefix 2 years ago
Has changed in 2 weeks since your first post?
Thats amazing, you must be an informant.
PirateFenby 2 years ago
If Anonymous was to protest against Christianity then the christians would laugh.
The Christian Church itself is opposed to scientology, how about that?
Scientology in the past have harassed through physical and nefarious criminal means individuals who set up to talk against scientology.
Scientology has infiltrated the IRS and stole classified documents - the entire affair is still classified from public scrutiny.
There are released documents containing illegal orders to scientology members.
Foxstab 2 years ago 3
agree, in christianity the church is not trying to get a profit from the people
Liekpew 2 years ago
This is the first, and probably the only time I will ever, EVER, read this on the internet.
PirateFenby 2 years ago
you mean the collect? and that before the church of chiristanity was like scientologist?
Liekpew 2 years ago
Thats what I expected to see.
PirateFenby 2 years ago
Well... thev've changed... atleast i think that... xD scientology isen't about religion or helping its about money
Liekpew 2 years ago
Yah, Scientology is a cult.
I was talking about the thing you said about the christian church.
PirateFenby 2 years ago
i mean that the christian church has changed scientology is still the same shit
Liekpew 2 years ago
What I can't for the life of me understand is how these rich, famous and otherwise seemingly intelligent people get wrapped up in this ridiculous bullshit. What could they possibly be told. And why do they ultimately say "yea, ok, that sounds great." And how about this for a future crime, Public Identity Concealment.
yankeepedaler 3 years ago
FREE SPEACH IS A RIGHT NOT A PRIVILAGE!!!
Id like to see that here, there would be full scale rioting
The0Kitch 3 years ago
Free speach is a right, Kitch, but with every right comes great responsibility and I think that that simple fact has largly been forgotten in today's society.
An anti abortionist or an animal rights activist has the right to protest, they don't have the right to physically attack the subject of their protest, however.
thegirl44 2 years ago
i can't remeber what i said on this video but ill make my position clear..
everyone has the right to protest but not to cause physical harm to anyone....
and i never heard of anyone physically threating or carrying out physical attacks on this church...
The0Kitch 2 years ago
Which is why I didn't use that as an example. You had said:
Free speach is a right not a priviledge, I think in response to the talking head in this interview refering to it as the former.
thegirl44 2 years ago
I think i may have miunderstood your question, but ill do my best to respond,
free speach is a right, but like every right comes with responsibilities like respecting others right to free speach
people can protest what they like (eg westboro baptist cult, although they are insane) but they can't stop people from beliving what they believe
The0Kitch 2 years ago
We're in absolute agreement, my friend, and it takes us, again, to the subject of this video.
The Cult of Scientology are horrific offenders of freedom of speach and the press.
thegirl44 2 years ago
that i am total agreement on, but they are not alone...
its up to us the public to not be drawn in by lies and proporganda..
The0Kitch 2 years ago
And to make my position clear...
If individuals aren't responsible in how they practice the right to protest and free speech then the fundamental rights, as guaranteed in the constitution aren't worth the paper that they're written on.
We were afforded those rights with the recent model of England's tyranny against the new world in mind, if we turn around and use those right to be tyrannical ourselves, the church in this video is a good example of that, then we are abusing those rights.
thegirl44 2 years ago
Let me get this straight. A group of non-violent, orderly protesters expressing their convictions are threatened & arrested by police for calling Scientology a cult?
First Amendment, ftw. Sorry England.
titans1984 3 years ago
America has it right, free speach to all, not just the rich, but it wouldn't have been the first time england oppressed free speach???
LOL no hard feelings know though...
The0Kitch 3 years ago
That was kind of my point - the England has no hard & fast rule protecting the speech of its citizens, while the American Constitution does.
titans1984 3 years ago
Well... non-violent true... but hacking? i dont know... its not violent but still...
Liekpew 2 years ago
I am very surprised that in England people are restrained by police from articulating sincerely held beliefs in public. It's a very short step from the state deciding what you cannot say/believe to the state saying what you MUST believe and that's fascism. Scary.
bagelboi66 3 years ago
If we aren't allowed to protest, then for God's sakes, why are they allowed to torture? To track us and ruin our lives? To nearly enslave the members of their "religion"?
Epic Nose Guy is meh hero.
Here we go.
AnonymousCP 3 years ago
arrest the police they are bisexual paedofiles, that scrubber is impersonating a police officer, sinister bastards. the only thing that is brainwashed and evil are the police.
cathar1962 3 years ago
Epic Nose Guy! Epic Win!
Anghellik9 3 years ago 2
epic nose guy
nose guy
guy
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MagicHandedAlex 3 years ago 2
A word on the Birmingham incident, the fines for illegal littering were dropped.
anonymous1312 3 years ago
lmao i lost the game
DraconionDevil 3 years ago
stupid police STUPID !! just STUPID ! and STUPID ! Man..I want a V mask . Way to go guys ! FREE SPEECH !
OZ2YOU 3 years ago
EPIC NOSE GUY
5iveRP 3 years ago 3
amazing
x666HIM666x 3 years ago
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hey hey, all Christians get over it, theres a much worse cult out their, god , who really cares, did Scientology pick on you, did they tell you that your stupid, probly not , your all the same just bitching about something you dont understand
onedollarush 3 years ago
@onedollarush - You say we are bitching about things we dont understand? I was in your cult my whole life. how am i misunderstanding it? there are now more critics of $cientology than actual $cientologists. thats how destructive cults are and this is the worst of them all.
adsfgfdhgsgjsdfg 3 years ago 2
I'm with you up to "...worst of them all." At that point I remember Jim Jones.
SmellyBones 3 years ago
@SmellyBones - That cult (heavens gate) doesnt really exist anymore. I should have said "worst current cult" Ill be more specific next time. (scientologist arent far from "drinking the coolade". They are already willing to hurt people for their beliefs.
adsfgfdhgsgjsdfg 3 years ago
This is fantastic. Very positive news coverage. I particularly liked how at 1:39 the reporter says "Scientology offers to free humans from alien spirits which is says possess us all." Scientologists have to pay thousands of pounds to read OT3 level and learn that it's a UFO cult... and here's the news giving out that info for free.
Priceless. And the $cifags didn't comment upon that, simply calling us a hate group as usual. Epic.
doobedoo22 3 years ago
ScientologyKillz 3 years ago 2
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oh and what about all the other religions there buddy, who have killed and lied and cheated their way to the top,
onedollarush 3 years ago
@onedollarush - That makes it OK?
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oh and what about all the other religions there buddy, who have killed and lied and cheated their way to the top,
adsfgfdhgsgjsdfg 3 years ago
uhh, so what are you getting at? what im saying is its all the same bullshit, you simple minded fools cant see past your own ways, but what ever believe what you want to, in the end its all the same,
littlegrassdragon 3 years ago
@littlegrassdragon - HUH? who was that directed at? Is it possible you mixed up your sock puppet accounts?
adsfgfdhgsgjsdfg 3 years ago
sock puppet accounts? no there was no mix up, it was directed at you, so dont play stupid, anyways i could care less to debate with someone like you i have better things to do, so bye bye have a nice life ^_^
littlegrassdragon 3 years ago
no free speech in GB?
thedelta88 3 years ago
GO EPICNOSEGUY! WOOO!
And it's strange that the report doesn't go into detail that Anonymous have proof of their claims and that scientology has a history of attacking critics.
JaredSol 3 years ago 2
"Epic Nose Guy"
LOL It sounds so funny when said on the news!
gunde30 3 years ago 2
Epic nose guy! xD
GO ANONYMOUS!
RainyWednsday 3 years ago
police be goin over their own heads. free speach aka harassment? bullcrap, police grabbing a reporter and saying hes not who he is? now that is fucked up, looks like a move to surpress free speach altogether. ''help help im being opressed''
cal8116 3 years ago
More 4 news grahpic effect was long.
xSUxgrubes91 3 years ago
The "C" word? Cult is now the "C" word? So I guess the "C" word I grew up with no longer matters?
Amazing the level of disinformation that the Scientologists attempt to push regarding their nutty little cult. I salute anonymous for its preserverence against these maniacs.
AzmodanKijur 3 years ago
cunt
themangodess 3 years ago 6
this is Anonymous account?
Skillproductions 3 years ago
Police is corrupt.
obvious infiltration of sci's in the police
111oose 3 years ago 3
Epic noes guy has balls the sise of apples!
Your /b/rothers in toronto are with you!
Glory Xenu!
Glory Marcabia!
Glory victory!
A new regiment of SP4s have been trained on Marcab and are on there way to aid us in our supression!
soulinite 3 years ago
Your /b/rothers in toronto are with you!
Glory Xenu!
Glory Marcabia!
Glory victory!
A new regiment of SP4s have been trained on Marcab and are on there way to aid us in our supression!
soulinite 3 years ago
EPIC NOSE GUY IS EPIC
Swifttheslacker 3 years ago 4
This is a perfect example of why we (must) protest...while we are still semi free enough to do so.
msully01 3 years ago
Finally, the public informed about how their country is becoming a police state under the direction of $cilons! The question needs be asked: "How would Jonestown have been different if people had sounded the alarm of Cult before the Kool Aid had been served?"
If the term 'cult' is false, the courts can resolve it through the recourse due to libel and slander victims.
Disallowing the protests is very fascist and needs to be looked at in-depth.
catawungus 3 years ago 4
Disallowing the protests is very fascist and needs to be looked at in-depth.
^^ this
111oose 3 years ago
Then at the end, the Church of Scientology throws out a red herring combined with an ad hominem and gross generalization. They say anonymous's soul intention is to harass and that anonymous has harasses others in the past. First of all, anonymous is anyone who doesn't reveal their identity, period. There are anonymous people to thank for many dangerous criminals being arrested, and there are criminals who are anonymous. Instead of answering any allegation, they just attack the opponent.
DeimosSaturn 3 years ago
At around 7:00, they use the tired old special pleading fallacy "what if it was christianity they were calling an evil brain washing cult?".
Yeah? What if? It doesn't fucking matter. Nothing should be exempt from criticism. NOTHING. Anonymous should be less subjective and try to stick to the facts, but there is no such thing as "Hate Speech", unless we're living in Oceania 1984, in which case you would call it "thought crime".
DeimosSaturn 3 years ago 2
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING
ChariotRider 3 years ago
Little brother is watching back.
soulinite 3 years ago 3
I was reading the info on the video, got about half way down before realizing it's a bunch of tags. I really tried to make a sensible sentence!
Clausfarre 3 years ago
Wow, very good. I hope there will be more TV reports like this about the cult.
mollie2810 3 years ago 6
It's a Bloody Dangerous Brainwashing cult.
What do you call talking to ash's trays?
packetscan 3 years ago 3