@macsdestroypcs im pretty sure he said "he didn't have enough to auto" or autorotate, an emergency landing procedure in a helicopter. a certain amount of altitude is required to perform this. not trying to sharpshoot you, just fyi.
@macsdestroyspcs2 No problem, as I said, Im not an expert on the subject. Search some videos of autorotations. Pilots practice them and there are several pretty good videos on YT. Its pretty impressive to watch!
The pilot didn't give that motor much warm-up time. Those old motors need to reach normal operating temperature. The Bell 47 is a good reliable machine but you have to respect its limitations too.
@Afrocanuk Well I was wondering the same thing, I just checked it out but unfortunately there's not much there... The cause of the engine failure is undetermined, the pilot tried to level off for landing but the RPM was too low to complete that maneuver, hence the hard landing.
the takeoff looked a little underpowered. as far as the pilot goes, no one has any right to say SHIT. Period. It's easy to judge behind a computer screen when you were not in the cockpit. It's plain to see that the pilot jerked the collective to miss the smaller of the two trees, which probably resulted in low rotor rpm. Hell, I would've done the same thing. Of course it's not ideal, but look how much time he had to react. like .8 seconds. so STFU. Hopefully the people on board survived.
@chelsielover Right on. A person can checklist and preflight five times over and something like this can still happen. The worst part of this was that the copter was too low to do any kind of windmilling recovery. But in spite of that he did the best he could, and that's obvious in that he and his passenger both walked away. Nobody here has any right to criticize the landing, that was the best outcome out of this. The skids would've collapsed anyway. I'd buy that pilot a beer!
@andrewlimch Indeed. A pilot friend of mine says "Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing, but it's a great landing if you can re-use the plane!". Sometimes we simply can't control the outcome, but as long as we live to tell, that's all that matters. I've witnessed two crashes in my life, neither fatal. Stuff can be replaced, people can't.
What do you mean stay out of the H/V curve? The pilot was climbing - it isn't his fault the engine failed. Btw, a skilled pilot would have anticipated that and would have still landed that on its skids......always be ready for an engine failure. I have had two, one at 1500ft the other at less than 300ft....no damage to Jet Ranger on both occasions . People generally maim and kill people, not helicopters!
Idiot or not, I hope everyone was ok. Shitty spot to have to try an auto. I am not familiar with the H/V curve in the Bell 47 but this one looks like he was WELL behind the curve. Witch's tit will get you.
Too bad. I hate to see a nice heli get trashed. The flight school here always has you hover for a couple of minutes before takeoff just to make sure everything is OK. In this situation; he could have done a hover auto on the failure.
Saw this video some time ago but just ran across it again. I'm always amazed at the comments section and this one is no exeception. Can't see what happened on the touchdown but it appears to me the guy had enough altitude and airspeed to make a safe autorotative landing. He could have hit a fence, not dropped pitch fully and bled off rpm. multitude of things. I have about 600 hrs in the 13 and checked out in 5-6 more helicopters. Comm/inst helicopter ATP Multi with 3 types including 747-400
Some of you guys are ridiculous and have no idea what you are talking about. As long as you are outside of the shaded areas of the H/V diagram, which you always should be, you can safely autorotate a helicopter from any altitude. You don't need to be 400-500ft. A helicopter is actually one of the safest aircraft in the event of an engine failure, given the pilot is properly trained, as you can put it down nearly anywhere.
@NewNumaNumaGuy until you realise how fuckin boring it is to be an airline pilot, all you do is sit for hours on end not even being able to see outside
So the jackass with the camera stays put instead of running to the crash scene to render aid. After aid has been rendered the jackass could have began videoing again and give us bastards a close up of the wreckage.
Too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the soup. What good is another person (who is not a trained EMT or doctor) hovering over an accident scene going to do other than make it harder for those actually able to help?
Yeah, you can count the number of people who are heading up to the crash scene to render what aid they can render. There were no firetrucks or ambulances waiting for the helicopter to crash. They responded after being summoned to the scene most likely by one of the people running up to help. The cameraman stayed with the crash sequence, but close up video of the wreckage would have been nice. Oh and BTW fuck you asshole.
yeah thats just like idiots like you wanting to see people in a wreck you have no idea what its like to be on the scene of a crash or an accident have some respect you dumb fuck you want to see accidents join up with a fire department
Learn to read before you call someone a dumb fuck. Learn how and when to use uppercase letters before you call someone a dumb fuck. I never said I wanted to see people get hurt. I said I wanted to see the condition of the helicopter after the wreck and after the cameraman rendered aid. I have been the first responder to many accidents and have been involved in a few myself. So try to know atleast something before you run your faggot ass nerd mouth.
And if people like you are who I can expect to be a first repsonder if and when help is needed, I am seriously fucked. Shit, you probably are one of those volunteers who gets bored and sets fires to respond to. Go back to playing with yourself and leave the big dogs alone faggot
you have no resepct you retarded fuck off we risk our lives everyday with out pay to help moron like fucking you because you got the bright idea to get your fucking self killed you need to grow the fuck up little man and join up with the world stop being a drag on the world. i really hate people like you if there were less people like you in the world it would be so much a better place
If you want less people in the world, then why would you help anyone? You make no sense whatsoever. You sound like a very unstable person who is in need of some physcological help. Help yourself, then you can help others. I was going to tell you to fuck off, but now I feel sorry for you. Get yourself some help get well soon.
you must really be mentally retarded, well thats actually insulting retarded people if thats the fact, by the way first responders deal with injured people they dont set fires to get called out sorry to burst your little bubble fucker.
Just to answer your e-mail you sent to me. Yes it is wrong for you to have finger banged your own mother exiled. It is still incest. I really am not interested in the fact that you haven't washed your finger and like the smell of your mother's cunt on your finger. That is sick and disturbing. Get some help!
wow... really.... wow are you like 12 your something? "finger banging your mother" dude youre telling me i need help you should seek medical attention when god was passing out brains you stood in the wrong line twice your fucking stupid lmao i mean really youre a total moron lmao im loving this arguing with a 12 year old rocks cause they think they know it all when they know shit!! lmao keep em coming ^_^
one thing that does annoy me in the uk is when they fly helicopters close to rooftops. I can't believe the caa allow this. If the engine was to fail they would crash straight into the persons house. i'm talking 50 feet above peoples houses. Surely this is breaching safety regulations. at this altitude you have little glide and in the event of an engine failure people on the ground would be at risk. IN my opinion this not defensive flying and disregarding safety of the people on the ground.
you're not listening. 20-50 feet above rooftops is not safe in the even of engine failure or some serious problem just to look for osme old person who has wondered off from a old folks home. YOu would risk crashing into houses on the ground. I'm talking about a housing estate with no suitable landing spots also. YOu get good pilots and bad pilots
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but honestly think of the chances.. How many times in your life have you seen an instance of a plane hitting a house.. What, maybe once every three years? And how often is someone killed in the house? Maybe one per crash being liberal.. So, for three years your chances of getting killed by a plane are one in 60 million..
i'm not in favour of roads being in close proximety to people. If highways were suspended high above peoples it would be better. Zero traffic would be great
lkjahwergknhasi8qark is the idiot as rotors have been known to just become jammed in the passed and stop rotating. Of all the people ive met the worst type of people have turned out to be the insulting people who have to resort to insults like
lkjahwergknhasi8qark . they usually turn out to be wrong also
believe me, it would have ended better if it DID happen at 5000ft! They'd be able to do a proper autorotation and could very well have landed without any incident.
@snedie69er That's kind of obvious. As a helicopter pilot, I can guarantee you an engine failure at altitude is much more desirable than one like in this video.
fixed wing aircraft are safer than rotary wing aircraft. THe majority of military aircraft accident involve rotary wing craft. If the rotors jam you are screwed. THats why i prefer fixed wing craft. Helicopters are aerodynamically unstable and require constent pilot input. I dont like them
They can. That's a very common misconception among aviators. The rotors can simply 'jam up' (ok not the best explanation) if you have a transmission failure. I know an old time heli pilot here in New Zealand who has had 3 in his career. He only survived all of them (just) because he was very low, he was spraying crops. Not a very common occurence these days though. Of course there is also blade stall, but that's another story.
Tell that to the guy who was patrolling the railroad tracks in my area. There was plenty of place to autorotate down to but at the last second he hit a fence, flipped over and burst into flames and was killed.
The reality is that regardless an aircraft crash is very unforgiving. Regardless of the type of aircraft. Thats why you do everything possible to avoid an accident.
sure you do. If you were you'd understand the difference between asymmetric thrust and torque and while we are at it shall we discuss what the critical engine is?
No you don't "Know your Stuff" that's the sort of answer given by someone backed into a corner and doesn't know the answers to the questions. A real pilot knows the answers to the questions I posted. You might have 400 hours flying RC airplanes but you don't fly real planes
i already explained that IF LEFT TO ITS OWN DEVICES, the plane will wing over, if the pilot invervenes and feathers the prop and re trims the plane it will be fine.
I know that aircraft personally and I have met the pilot and he is an idiot. He was trying to install a hand held GPS and hard wire it into the the aircrafts wiring. The wire that he spliced into went to the magneto switch and in turn caused the mags to short out and therefore the engine quit. Before anyone starts slamming me, I am a certified aircraft mechanic with over 23 years of experiance. Oh by the way, the engine sounds fine in the video. That's just the way recip engines sound.
I had a trial flight in a Robinson 22 today, trying to decide whether to do my PPL on fixed-wing or helicopters. This is exactly what I was hoping *wouldn't* happen :-) Glad to see the crew were alright ...
The Bell 47 is a pretty old aircraft, seeing it was used in the Korean War. Unless that thing has had a complete overhaul, I am not surprised that happened. I have flown in one and I'm glad that didn't happen to me!
For those of you who do not know anything about helicopters, shut up and listen! What the primary problem here is the lack of enough altitude and airspeed to complete a safe autorotation to the ground in the event of an engine failure such as this. I fly helicopters for a living and have taught many people to fly them, all of who are still alive and well and enjoy flying them on a regular basis. If you want straight answers, feel free to ask me and I will take the time to answer you.
I know its like ridicoulous to explain such evident thing, but you agree with me that this guy looks like he needs someone to explain such simple things to him..looks like hes got something he didnt understand yet about difference between helicopters and planes ;)
i had my engine fail on me, but i fly cessna's so i am not completely screwed. the only thing i have to worry about is my airspeed, trying to hold optimal glide speed. and altitude, so i have time to assess the situation. unfortunatly for this pilot, he did not have anything to give him lift once that motor failed. i hope he sustained minimal injury
No time to auto rotate. Too low. It is a good idea to gain altitude right away. Speed is good too, but mostly altitude. In this case there was nothing the pilot could of done.
The engine speed has very little to do with altitude. It mostly deals with the high end power of the blade. The heli gains altitude by changing the pitch of the blade(this is done by using a collective switch, usually located on the left side, this must be held at all times).The engine is always running at it's peak speed. no matter what so the engine failed most likely from fuel injection problems.
that has nothing to do with what i replied to you..
you said.. get speed and altitude as soon as possible.. i replied "you stupid, the more speed and altitude you get, the more brutal is the shock when you get down".
LOL, idiot, when an helicopter engine stops to run, you just fall on the ground, its not a plane, idiot, it has no wings.. so the more hi you are, the more dead you are. go to school, idiot :)
no, it's an autorotation... Here is a simple definition:
Part 1:Autorotations are used in helicopters to perform power off landings from altitude in the event of an engine failure. During an autorotation, the main rotor is not driven by a power plant, but by air flowing through the rotor disc
Part 2:bottom-up (imagine a windmill) while the aircraft is descending rapidly. About as much buoyancy is provided as a round parachute of the same diameter. The power required to keep the rotor spinning is obtained from the aircraft's potential and kinetic energy. An important contributing factor is the rotor's inertia. The descent is at a normal and familiar glide angle to a suitable landing spot assuming the flight plan stayed within gliding distance of a suitable landing spot.
there was plenty of height for converting forward speed into rotor rpm....the pilot looked asleep....no wonder he wore a helmet.
bellXV15 3 days ago
MASH 4077
ALLERTORLOVER69 4 months ago
I know that the 47 is just a civilian model of the Bell Sioux, but I call it the fish bowl chopper.
Zyworski 6 months ago
1:44 "He didn't have enough throttle there." HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH ENGINE SMARTY!!!
macsdestroypcs 6 months ago
@macsdestroypcs im pretty sure he said "he didn't have enough to auto" or autorotate, an emergency landing procedure in a helicopter. a certain amount of altitude is required to perform this. not trying to sharpshoot you, just fyi.
param3dic85 4 months ago
@param3dic85 Oh that makes sense. I thought the engine just died... haha! Thanks
macsdestroyspcs2 4 months ago
@macsdestroyspcs2 No problem, as I said, Im not an expert on the subject. Search some videos of autorotations. Pilots practice them and there are several pretty good videos on YT. Its pretty impressive to watch!
param3dic85 4 months ago
The pilot didn't give that motor much warm-up time. Those old motors need to reach normal operating temperature. The Bell 47 is a good reliable machine but you have to respect its limitations too.
JackKangaroo1 10 months ago
the sound of helicopters are awsome
cuzzythewolf2 10 months ago
Good thing they were only about 40 feet up.
kelzclive 10 months ago
@kelzclive too low for a safe landing, better in case of engine failure is a good altitude for a stabilized autorotaton
Rudi146 7 months ago
What did the investigation reveal about the cause of this accident?
Afrocanuk 11 months ago
@Afrocanuk Well I was wondering the same thing, I just checked it out but unfortunately there's not much there... The cause of the engine failure is undetermined, the pilot tried to level off for landing but the RPM was too low to complete that maneuver, hence the hard landing.
seban678 10 months ago
WOW OLD PISTON ENGINE KOREAN WAR HELICOPTER.
MafiaGENGTEAM1970 1 year ago
the takeoff looked a little underpowered. as far as the pilot goes, no one has any right to say SHIT. Period. It's easy to judge behind a computer screen when you were not in the cockpit. It's plain to see that the pilot jerked the collective to miss the smaller of the two trees, which probably resulted in low rotor rpm. Hell, I would've done the same thing. Of course it's not ideal, but look how much time he had to react. like .8 seconds. so STFU. Hopefully the people on board survived.
chelsielover 1 year ago
@chelsielover Right on. A person can checklist and preflight five times over and something like this can still happen. The worst part of this was that the copter was too low to do any kind of windmilling recovery. But in spite of that he did the best he could, and that's obvious in that he and his passenger both walked away. Nobody here has any right to criticize the landing, that was the best outcome out of this. The skids would've collapsed anyway. I'd buy that pilot a beer!
SenorSpode 11 months ago
@SenorSpode Any landing u can walk away from is a good one.
andrewlimch 10 months ago 2
@andrewlimch Indeed. A pilot friend of mine says "Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing, but it's a great landing if you can re-use the plane!". Sometimes we simply can't control the outcome, but as long as we live to tell, that's all that matters. I've witnessed two crashes in my life, neither fatal. Stuff can be replaced, people can't.
SenorSpode 10 months ago
@chelsielover
Shut up armchair pilot.
motokid032 10 months ago 2
is it just me or does the engine sound strange on ground too ? and mostly at 0:57, but I dont know is that normal to helicopter
roossi 1 year ago
What do you mean stay out of the H/V curve? The pilot was climbing - it isn't his fault the engine failed. Btw, a skilled pilot would have anticipated that and would have still landed that on its skids......always be ready for an engine failure. I have had two, one at 1500ft the other at less than 300ft....no damage to Jet Ranger on both occasions . People generally maim and kill people, not helicopters!
leeryan1969 1 year ago
Another pilot who is knows better than the H/V curve. C'mon people, stay out of the H/V danger region - how hard can it be?
SteveWrightNZ 1 year ago
Fact: Fixed wind wants to please you - Rotary wing wants to kill you. I'm SO happy everyone walked away! Whew!
Zumbawithcindy 1 year ago
classic MASH helicopter, piston engine, ancestor to turbine huey. . Fortunately not much speed or altitude but copter probably pretty messed up.
biukucanoe 1 year ago
first thing i would ask... IS THE HELICOPTER OK!?
phillyflyers74 1 year ago
I hope he was ok in the end as that is all that really maters....human life!
And we all make mistakes but that doesn't make us dumb it just happens
Froginthemouth406 1 year ago
I hope he was ok in the end as that is all that really maters....human life!
Froginthemouth406 1 year ago
we're they OK?
lst1195 1 year ago
is this an episode of m.a.s.h???
Jake50754 1 year ago
@Jake50754 no its real you dumb fuck
RuShvPaYnE 1 year ago
@RuShvPaYnE maybe your the dumbfuck, because im pretty sure this helicopter played on the beginning of mash every episode. And it was a joke
Jake50754 1 year ago
Idiot or not, I hope everyone was ok. Shitty spot to have to try an auto. I am not familiar with the H/V curve in the Bell 47 but this one looks like he was WELL behind the curve. Witch's tit will get you.
Quillons1 1 year ago
I'll bet that was queezy feeling for the passenger, nice little dose of negative g's.
kolbpilot 1 year ago
Too bad. I hate to see a nice heli get trashed. The flight school here always has you hover for a couple of minutes before takeoff just to make sure everything is OK. In this situation; he could have done a hover auto on the failure.
ParadoxByDesign 1 year ago
Saw this video some time ago but just ran across it again. I'm always amazed at the comments section and this one is no exeception. Can't see what happened on the touchdown but it appears to me the guy had enough altitude and airspeed to make a safe autorotative landing. He could have hit a fence, not dropped pitch fully and bled off rpm. multitude of things. I have about 600 hrs in the 13 and checked out in 5-6 more helicopters. Comm/inst helicopter ATP Multi with 3 types including 747-400
Sidewinder747 1 year ago
UP UP AND AWAAAAAAHHHH!!!! OUCH.
discoveryman 1 year ago
Some of you guys are ridiculous and have no idea what you are talking about. As long as you are outside of the shaded areas of the H/V diagram, which you always should be, you can safely autorotate a helicopter from any altitude. You don't need to be 400-500ft. A helicopter is actually one of the safest aircraft in the event of an engine failure, given the pilot is properly trained, as you can put it down nearly anywhere.
dodger202020 2 years ago 2
I hate helicopter,i rather fly boeing 737s
NewNumaNumaGuy 2 years ago
I'd take a bus or walk...
jongkongmas 1 year ago
@jongkongmas I'd take a C172 :P
ncodrington 1 year ago
@NewNumaNumaGuy "He who can fly a helicopter, can fly a plane. He who can fly a plane, can crash a helicopter."
setchemati 1 year ago
@setchemati he who can fly a helicopter, a plane or crash a helicopter can surely walk or take a bus...
jongkongmas 1 year ago
@NewNumaNumaGuy until you realise how fuckin boring it is to be an airline pilot, all you do is sit for hours on end not even being able to see outside
ramano11 1 year ago
400 -500ft to autorotate
anairam251 2 years ago
Ah well, shut up. Its a technicality. The engine was muffed end of.
matoy77 2 years ago
not a turbine helo so no flame out. had to b fuel
tcsodoto6187 2 years ago
Flame out i guess?
matoy77 2 years ago
matoy77 - the Bell 47 uses a piston engine powerplant. 'Flame outs' only occur in turbo fan / turbo jet / turbine engines.
AussieAviator 2 years ago
@morbius0987654321 Was not high enough to autorotate.
sirglock19 2 years ago
Really? How high does one need to be in a Bell 47?
aligerous 2 years ago
Shit is hilarious~
embominator 2 years ago
POS helicopter, I will never get in a helicopter.
embominator 2 years ago
1:27
WUT!
AngryDeli 2 years ago 3
what caused the engine to quit on mid air???
stealhty1 2 years ago
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1:27 Oh my Gawd
bigchad007 2 years ago
So the jackass with the camera stays put instead of running to the crash scene to render aid. After aid has been rendered the jackass could have began videoing again and give us bastards a close up of the wreckage.
flyifrvfr 2 years ago
Too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the soup. What good is another person (who is not a trained EMT or doctor) hovering over an accident scene going to do other than make it harder for those actually able to help?
prorobo 2 years ago
dude there was more than enought people up there and a freakin fire truck are you moronic? the guy would have been just watching freakin idiot!
exiledconnections 2 years ago
Yeah, you can count the number of people who are heading up to the crash scene to render what aid they can render. There were no firetrucks or ambulances waiting for the helicopter to crash. They responded after being summoned to the scene most likely by one of the people running up to help. The cameraman stayed with the crash sequence, but close up video of the wreckage would have been nice. Oh and BTW fuck you asshole.
flyifrvfr 2 years ago
yeah thats just like idiots like you wanting to see people in a wreck you have no idea what its like to be on the scene of a crash or an accident have some respect you dumb fuck you want to see accidents join up with a fire department
ExiledConnections 1732 West Macon Fire & Rescue
exiledconnections 2 years ago
Learn to read before you call someone a dumb fuck. Learn how and when to use uppercase letters before you call someone a dumb fuck. I never said I wanted to see people get hurt. I said I wanted to see the condition of the helicopter after the wreck and after the cameraman rendered aid. I have been the first responder to many accidents and have been involved in a few myself. So try to know atleast something before you run your faggot ass nerd mouth.
flyifrvfr 2 years ago
And if people like you are who I can expect to be a first repsonder if and when help is needed, I am seriously fucked. Shit, you probably are one of those volunteers who gets bored and sets fires to respond to. Go back to playing with yourself and leave the big dogs alone faggot
flyifrvfr 2 years ago
you have no resepct you retarded fuck off we risk our lives everyday with out pay to help moron like fucking you because you got the bright idea to get your fucking self killed you need to grow the fuck up little man and join up with the world stop being a drag on the world. i really hate people like you if there were less people like you in the world it would be so much a better place
exiledconnections 2 years ago
If you want less people in the world, then why would you help anyone? You make no sense whatsoever. You sound like a very unstable person who is in need of some physcological help. Help yourself, then you can help others. I was going to tell you to fuck off, but now I feel sorry for you. Get yourself some help get well soon.
flyifrvfr 2 years ago 2
you must really be mentally retarded, well thats actually insulting retarded people if thats the fact, by the way first responders deal with injured people they dont set fires to get called out sorry to burst your little bubble fucker.
exiledconnections 2 years ago 2
Just to answer your e-mail you sent to me. Yes it is wrong for you to have finger banged your own mother exiled. It is still incest. I really am not interested in the fact that you haven't washed your finger and like the smell of your mother's cunt on your finger. That is sick and disturbing. Get some help!
flyifrvfr 2 years ago
wow... really.... wow are you like 12 your something? "finger banging your mother" dude youre telling me i need help you should seek medical attention when god was passing out brains you stood in the wrong line twice your fucking stupid lmao i mean really youre a total moron lmao im loving this arguing with a 12 year old rocks cause they think they know it all when they know shit!! lmao keep em coming ^_^
exiledconnections 2 years ago
so did he live?
sunsirel 2 years ago
it says at the end "pilot and passenger walked away with scratches"......most helicopter crashes are survivable because of autorotation capabilities
MykillMetal 2 years ago
whats that ..fly safe ...
pilot didnt do anything wrong i think
it should be design safe ..lol
charmingbanana 2 years ago
Many people don't realize you get good pilots & bad pilots.
fayik123 2 years ago
in response to halmiller
ilikechile 2 years ago
one thing that does annoy me in the uk is when they fly helicopters close to rooftops. I can't believe the caa allow this. If the engine was to fail they would crash straight into the persons house. i'm talking 50 feet above peoples houses. Surely this is breaching safety regulations. at this altitude you have little glide and in the event of an engine failure people on the ground would be at risk. IN my opinion this not defensive flying and disregarding safety of the people on the ground.
fayik123 3 years ago
A helicopter crash is way more rare than a car crash.. And people live right next to the roads don't they?
BrassAxe 2 years ago
you're not listening. 20-50 feet above rooftops is not safe in the even of engine failure or some serious problem just to look for osme old person who has wondered off from a old folks home. YOu would risk crashing into houses on the ground. I'm talking about a housing estate with no suitable landing spots also. YOu get good pilots and bad pilots
fayik123 2 years ago
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but honestly think of the chances.. How many times in your life have you seen an instance of a plane hitting a house.. What, maybe once every three years? And how often is someone killed in the house? Maybe one per crash being liberal.. So, for three years your chances of getting killed by a plane are one in 60 million..
BrassAxe 2 years ago
i'm not in favour of roads being in close proximety to people. If highways were suspended high above peoples it would be better. Zero traffic would be great
fayik123 2 years ago
The world will never be a safe place. People should just be glad to be alive.
BrassAxe 2 years ago
if youdon't know anything about heli's shut up....the can be landed safely during autorotation....BUT altitude and airspeed is your friend
JetDriver1111 3 years ago
mash helicopter
88keysinarow 3 years ago
but you cannot use autorotation if the broken engine is blocking the rotor
Alexx120493 3 years ago
Not true at all, that's what the sprague clutch is for
efletchersoc 3 years ago
When your pilot puts on a helmet and there's no combat for 7,800mi....Hang On!
FlightLevelHeaded 3 years ago
lkjahwergknhasi8qark is the idiot as rotors have been known to just become jammed in the passed and stop rotating. Of all the people ive met the worst type of people have turned out to be the insulting people who have to resort to insults like
lkjahwergknhasi8qark . they usually turn out to be wrong also
fayik123 3 years ago
That really sucks that happened :( But better it happened then, than if they were 5000 feet in the air! Hope they were ok.
jlebesis 3 years ago
believe me, it would have ended better if it DID happen at 5000ft! They'd be able to do a proper autorotation and could very well have landed without any incident.
FlingwingGolfer 3 years ago 16
@FlingwingGolfer
It's not flight sim
snedie69er 1 year ago
@snedie69er That's kind of obvious. As a helicopter pilot, I can guarantee you an engine failure at altitude is much more desirable than one like in this video.
FlingwingGolfer 1 year ago
@FlingwingGolfer
I'd prefer to have a reliable ground team
snedie69er 1 year ago
@snedie69er Ever heard of the saying 'shit happens'?
FlingwingGolfer 1 year ago
fixed wing aircraft are safer than rotary wing aircraft. THe majority of military aircraft accident involve rotary wing craft. If the rotors jam you are screwed. THats why i prefer fixed wing craft. Helicopters are aerodynamically unstable and require constent pilot input. I dont like them
fayik123 3 years ago 2
The rotors don't just jam idiot.
lkjahwergknhasi8qark 3 years ago
They can. That's a very common misconception among aviators. The rotors can simply 'jam up' (ok not the best explanation) if you have a transmission failure. I know an old time heli pilot here in New Zealand who has had 3 in his career. He only survived all of them (just) because he was very low, he was spraying crops. Not a very common occurence these days though. Of course there is also blade stall, but that's another story.
NZ500D 3 years ago
you can land a heli anywhere: a parking lot, a back yard, any field, anywhere, when the engine fails.
If fixed wing engine fail and there is not a level piece of hard ground in gliding range, you are pretty much screwed.
Helicopters are MUCH safer than fixed wing when the engine fails...
FlingwingGolfer 3 years ago
Tell that to the guy who was patrolling the railroad tracks in my area. There was plenty of place to autorotate down to but at the last second he hit a fence, flipped over and burst into flames and was killed.
The reality is that regardless an aircraft crash is very unforgiving. Regardless of the type of aircraft. Thats why you do everything possible to avoid an accident.
JustJane 3 years ago
This is why I DO like them.
Requires more than ham-handed weekend skills. :) Bragging rights to heli drivers everywhere.
Vintabilly 3 years ago
Exactly Vintabilly.. You can't trust a helicopter to do anything. You have to put you life in the hands of you or your mechanic.
BrassAxe 2 years ago
rotors don't "Jam" Safest single engine aircraft ever built is the Bell 206 Jet Ranger HELICOPTER
efletchersoc 3 years ago 2
Jet Ranger.. AKA.. The Hotrod..
BrassAxe 2 years ago
damn the camera man iz so lame, why didnt he run over there i want to c
bode120 3 years ago
and people wonder why i never fly in single engined aircraft!
turtles24601 3 years ago
twin engine aircraft are the most dangerous imho, if one engine dies, you risk a wing over and BAM!
halmiller2 3 years ago
Again Not true, yes it yaws but it will not wing over
efletchersoc 3 years ago
it WILL wing over
the torque will be unbalanced
well, in the hands of an inexperienced pilot it will, it needs compensation.
but it WILL wing over if left alone. (and yaw)
halmiller2 3 years ago
No it won't. Leave matters like this to pilots please. It will not wing over.
efletchersoc 3 years ago
with over 400 flight hours in twin engine aircraft, i reckon i know what i am on about
if left alone the aircraft WILL wing over
halmiller2 3 years ago
sure you do. If you were you'd understand the difference between asymmetric thrust and torque and while we are at it shall we discuss what the critical engine is?
efletchersoc 3 years ago
look, i know my stuff, i was merely stating my opnion on twin engined aircraft. i dont need to prove anything to anyone
halmiller2 3 years ago
No you don't "Know your Stuff" that's the sort of answer given by someone backed into a corner and doesn't know the answers to the questions. A real pilot knows the answers to the questions I posted. You might have 400 hours flying RC airplanes but you don't fly real planes
efletchersoc 3 years ago 2
you didnt ask me anything
halmiller2 3 years ago
opposite rudder and you can use yaw damper so it wont
ilikechile 2 years ago
i already explained that IF LEFT TO ITS OWN DEVICES, the plane will wing over, if the pilot invervenes and feathers the prop and re trims the plane it will be fine.
READ A COMMENT FULLY BEFORE REPLYING!
halmiller2 2 years ago 2
good advice ;-)
nicklking 3 years ago 4
I know that aircraft personally and I have met the pilot and he is an idiot. He was trying to install a hand held GPS and hard wire it into the the aircrafts wiring. The wire that he spliced into went to the magneto switch and in turn caused the mags to short out and therefore the engine quit. Before anyone starts slamming me, I am a certified aircraft mechanic with over 23 years of experiance. Oh by the way, the engine sounds fine in the video. That's just the way recip engines sound.
kmngrg2 4 years ago 21
did both people live?
nicklking 4 years ago
@kmngrg2 we need moe crashes like this
moneybelt22 1 year ago
@kmngrg2 you spelled experience wrong.
kelsehoffman 1 year ago
@kmngrg2 MY dad said the same thing what dum asses
SanAntonio78210 1 year ago
@kmngrg2 Man, you would think when it came to aeronotics that you would think he would get a license mechanic. He was stupid.
Froginthemouth406 1 year ago
@Froginthemouth406 Aeronautics. Spelling.
motoballz 1 year ago
@motoballz Thanks
Froginthemouth406 6 months ago
yes , autorotation, but at 100 feet an at the speed they heve performed it... they where luky
zzMAXz 4 years ago
Maybe there was no oil in the engine!!!!!
1983greece 4 years ago
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Uzbekistan. Thank you for flying Zwartwiecz Airlines. We appologize for the rough landing...
CharlesBronsonca 4 years ago 3
That thing looks ridiculously unsafe Lol.. talk about cutting corners, jebus, I wouldn't fly in that.
Sigrafix 4 years ago
EJECT EJECT EJECT!!!
pratoriann 4 years ago
engine did not sound " sweet"..
mountfields 4 years ago
its hard to understand how the pilot did not realize the engine's sound...
GinoRc 4 years ago
wa joey rhodes in there
combs8greg 4 years ago
TOUCH DOWN!!
kahilu 4 years ago
it was misfiring on the ground, so why try and fly it?
urbex2007 4 years ago
I had a trial flight in a Robinson 22 today, trying to decide whether to do my PPL on fixed-wing or helicopters. This is exactly what I was hoping *wouldn't* happen :-) Glad to see the crew were alright ...
duncanbayne 4 years ago
what country you from if you from sydney what school you fly with
airbus94 4 years ago
fix wing or Rotor? You can get your PPL on fix and then get the Rotor later as an add-on.
Heli flying is EXXXXXXXXXXpensive.
ar83s 4 years ago
yes, it is to keep all the cheapskates out
FlingwingGolfer 3 years ago
uhh...ouch?
i'm the new guy. :I
eviltman 4 years ago
yikes, im glad they werent injured
jimbob172 4 years ago
The Bell 47 is a pretty old aircraft, seeing it was used in the Korean War. Unless that thing has had a complete overhaul, I am not surprised that happened. I have flown in one and I'm glad that didn't happen to me!
Pilot200 4 years ago
Interesting video, xraysierra, do you know what caused the engine failure?
travers114 4 years ago
Too bad he didn't have enough speed to come down safely...
travers114 4 years ago
This is soooooooooo awesome!! Maybe next you'll show a helicopter just sitting on the landing strip!!! PLEASE let me know when you do!
ShinjitsuNoIta 4 years ago
Were they ok?
nodnarb101 4 years ago
dont know,...
xraysierra 4 years ago
At the end of the video it says 'Pilot and passenger walked away, minor scratches to arms.) I guess it looked worse than it was.
travers114 4 years ago
For those of you who do not know anything about helicopters, shut up and listen! What the primary problem here is the lack of enough altitude and airspeed to complete a safe autorotation to the ground in the event of an engine failure such as this. I fly helicopters for a living and have taught many people to fly them, all of who are still alive and well and enjoy flying them on a regular basis. If you want straight answers, feel free to ask me and I will take the time to answer you.
Classic63EType 5 years ago
wow 30 seconds then it stoped lol
litllenike 5 years ago
I know its like ridicoulous to explain such evident thing, but you agree with me that this guy looks like he needs someone to explain such simple things to him..looks like hes got something he didnt understand yet about difference between helicopters and planes ;)
Fr33dom34 5 years ago
thats what you get when you try to show off
GQ3123 5 years ago
i had my engine fail on me, but i fly cessna's so i am not completely screwed. the only thing i have to worry about is my airspeed, trying to hold optimal glide speed. and altitude, so i have time to assess the situation. unfortunatly for this pilot, he did not have anything to give him lift once that motor failed. i hope he sustained minimal injury
SupraCelica98 5 years ago
What made the engines fail
RadioMaster08 5 years ago
No time to auto rotate. Too low. It is a good idea to gain altitude right away. Speed is good too, but mostly altitude. In this case there was nothing the pilot could of done.
t6flyer2010 5 years ago
Was this crash at Homer Bell's fly-in?
FoxDie262 5 years ago
stupid.. the more speed you get, the more altitude you get when failure happens, the more you get hurt when you fall..
Fr33dom34 5 years ago
The engine speed has very little to do with altitude. It mostly deals with the high end power of the blade. The heli gains altitude by changing the pitch of the blade(this is done by using a collective switch, usually located on the left side, this must be held at all times).The engine is always running at it's peak speed. no matter what so the engine failed most likely from fuel injection problems.
thefaggot3000 5 years ago 2
eeehhhh
that has nothing to do with what i replied to you..
you said.. get speed and altitude as soon as possible.. i replied "you stupid, the more speed and altitude you get, the more brutal is the shock when you get down".
period.
Fr33dom34 5 years ago
One word auto-rotation so altitude has everything to do with it.
juuls26 5 years ago
LOL, idiot, when an helicopter engine stops to run, you just fall on the ground, its not a plane, idiot, it has no wings.. so the more hi you are, the more dead you are. go to school, idiot :)
Fr33dom34 5 years ago
are you being serious?
xraysierra 5 years ago
are you being sarcastik ?
Fr33dom34 5 years ago
lol idiot its called an autorotation. look it up
tahadar 4 years ago
No pilot could have pulled auto rotation that low.
kc135dood 4 years ago
You are a complete moron, and are trying to make a point about something you know nothing about.
travers114 4 years ago
LOL. lets put it this way, I know much more than you.. that makes YOU the moron, idiot :)
Fr33dom34 4 years ago
I have yet to see other wise...
travers114 4 years ago
well you were wrong.
but i corrected you, so now you know.
ciao, kid
Fr33dom34 4 years ago
youtube,com/watch?v=wOJSo6_F6mE
Come back after watching this and tell me what it is...
(don't forget to read the description!-it will help you.)
travers114 4 years ago
(You can't post URLs anymore, so replace the comma with a period.)
travers114 4 years ago
huh... its a chopper landing, kid
if you need my help to figure out another video, dont hesitate, i can help you a couple of times again before it starts to get annoying, kid
hehe
Fr33dom34 4 years ago
no, it's an autorotation... Here is a simple definition:
Part 1:Autorotations are used in helicopters to perform power off landings from altitude in the event of an engine failure. During an autorotation, the main rotor is not driven by a power plant, but by air flowing through the rotor disc
travers114 4 years ago
Part 2:bottom-up (imagine a windmill) while the aircraft is descending rapidly. About as much buoyancy is provided as a round parachute of the same diameter. The power required to keep the rotor spinning is obtained from the aircraft's potential and kinetic energy. An important contributing factor is the rotor's inertia. The descent is at a normal and familiar glide angle to a suitable landing spot assuming the flight plan stayed within gliding distance of a suitable landing spot.
travers114 4 years ago
Mouwhahahhaa
you really have a problem, kid :D
Fr33dom34 4 years ago