This was an amazing movie. Really made me take a look at my heritage, and what suffering they went through. I'm proud to come from something so strong.
white people.....may the creator have mercy on your rotten souls. you people have done nothing but create misery on this planet for peoples of color and you have to pay for that. you are a mutated, recessive demon seed and I hope I live long enough to see all of your asses burn. fuck you very much.
teachers displaced grandmothers clan power & censored the matriarchy wisdom- teachers create inequality & teach wrong way of relating w others- screw up me & then my daughters now the grandkids- let matriarchy iroquois grandmothers RETURN
Great movie,finally something worth watching,whats amazing to me is that we haven't learned anything from it, my heart goes not only to The Native Americans but to African Americans and to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq and Vietnam and Japan and Cuba and so on...well i dont think its going to stop anytime soon,and you know why? just read the Comments,
I saw this movie last night on cable. It hurt as this was done to my mother. She, and her siblings were "kidnapped" from their home while their dad was working. They made them walk along side the wagon, 75 miles away to the Stewart Indian School south of the Nevada capitol of Carson City. She will not talk about it anymore...
I've just viewed the movie. This happened to Native American, Alaskan Natives etc. well into the 20th century! The Canadian gov't has apologized for their part and rendered raparations. The US gov't has not. Although money and an apology doesn't wipe away the Nation's sin it's an acknowledgement of the wrongness and admission of ignorance. The same would be appreciated from Blacks. My heart sunk as those children were captured (stolen) from their families. Many died from the abuse!
It is sad and unfortunate that the American Peoples of this land were moved aside like one would move a log from the pathway, then this has happened over and over again throughout the world, throughout all times. Hasn't there always been people who feel they knew better, what was best for all. Look at the plight of the aborigines in Australia, the Maya, Incas, Aztecs, the eskimos, the gentle tribes of Brazil, on and on, small people will always do this, but one cannot extinguish the light within
@neoshoman I am european born in USA and I felt bad for the Salvadorians, Mexicans and Native Americans in general! (not white latinos who are Europeans too) they took their land and did to them really bad things! a shame!!!!
i have just finish watching this great film on encore westerns. I see many parallels to today, not even to mention the plight of the natives of this great country. God bless the American Indian, and forgive our ancestors for the terrible deeds they did in our ignorant state. GREAT FILM... God Bless
Every one needs to see this movie, I have been watching a lot of Aborignal films because I need a change from the block buster bullshit movies. Not only does this touch on a very important issue our white asshole ancestors left us with but this film is ART. Beautiful, moving, raw..There is a lot of good talent out there in the Native American community that needs to be seen when it comes to films like this and actors. Watch it you will be moved. I hope to see more films like this.
That's just what I thought, too! There are so many gorgeous films made by NA artists in the states. Great stories, great actors AND real good entertainment at the same time. There's garbage on TV and cinema en masse. But here in Germany you have to actively look for this "film jewels" like "skins" and all the others.
@ShelbyLinsea so have I, the actors are great! I met them when our theater class from HINU went to visit the set at the museum off mass street, and this is a really good movie
I'm watching it again right now on the Encore Western channel. It's coming on again tonight at 11:30pm eastern time on the Encore Western channel. It's such an amazing movie.
This is a great film. I thought it showed very well what the Native American children went through in these hellish "schools". One of my favorite scenes is when McCoy (the famous Indian "killer") walks into the school, and shoots a portrait of an "Americanized" (i.e. white) Native American, while the principal looks on in shock. McCoy says: "What you people are doing is much worse than anything I ever did to the Indians..." How very true. That time period was nothing short of genocide.
This was a pretty cool movie, at first I was really getting angry. But, in the ending it was so good, I am proud of this movie, I hope to see it again someday soon.
damn fam i aint even gon lie i seen this movie today on tv & i aint know yall natives had yall whole culture massacred by them white folks damn fam im black but that shit was like damn whatever white ppl seem to touch they RUIN it
damn fama i aint even gon lie i seen this movie today on tv & i aint know yall natives had yall whole culture massacred by them white folks damn fam im black but that shit was like damn whatever white ppl seem to touch they RUIN it
Wes Studi's dialogue "I'm gonna out-whiteman the whiteman" is so telling of the mental slavery humans undergo, when they are subjected to such conditions over a long time. That is really the hypocrisy behind the beginning of the fall in American global hegemony.
@tjohn1986 They were trying to make a point about how the whites viewed all of us. Please don't act out and speak so negatively if you do not understand what is going on.
Colonizing oppressors did to american people, what russian people did against their oppressors, one century later. That is where we see, violence leads to violence, except if we decide to think an other way (which has never be impossible).
people always say the Nazi where bad for killing Jews truth truth but still who payed for the extermination of the Native ! its like every one forgot what happen !!
J Kenneth Campbell is the one-in-the same uber bad guy in the film Australia. He really knows how to make you hate him. This looks like an excellent film. Can't wait for the release. Anyone know the release date?
@ziggy6848 Darwin has alot to answer for... And the god bless the Natives ?.. how ironic considering it was the religious people who branded them as savages and nearly killed them off.
@Tyrfingr Yes maybe, Religious people kill people all the time. But look at true christian missionarys like Brainard, who fought for Indian rights, and was well loved by many tribes. Johny Cash (christian) who gave his time and money for the rights of the American Natives, the list is endless.
@ziggy6848 Well i dont mean to seem offensive or anything, im just tired of the fundamental and organized religions that is what caused all these events in history. Individuals tend to handle belief in a proper way, but as soon as they group together it always takes a turn for the worst. The indians in the spiritual sense lived in ways that are far and beyond wiser and more respectful than us Europeans.
@Tyrfingr I Know where you are coming from, but fundamentalists have never grouped together, as they are called fundamentalists. also lets not paint all indian tribes as something of romantic. dont forget, many tribes butched other tribes for land, before the europians came.
@ziggy6848 I havent yet noticed that fundamentalists arent grouping together, least not the once i talked to. As for Indians, im simply pointing at something positive about them, that would have held us back from invading out of greed. If i said that you were marginalizing centuries of atrocities based on a few acts of missionary kindness. You would react thinking i was full of presumptions as well. I have spent some 20 years studying history to this point, in all genres and of all countries.
@Tyrfingr Really? Then why do so many aid groups in churches do so much good?
I'm going to point out something that I seem to have to repeat over and over again to many different people. People can always SAY they are one thing (Christian, for example), and not really BE that one thing. It's so easy to say "I'm Christian," but unless you LIVE it, unless you REALLY ARE CHRISTIAN, then you're lying. And so many people who have claimed to be Christian have lied.
@dovie317 Lied ?, isnt it more likely that people being brought up and having belief inforced by parents, will think that they are Christians. Only reason i say it, is because the large group were believers of god, even if it was a messed up view of the original message, No Church ever stepped in to stave off the mob. If anything it shows that organized religions are liable to be the most dangerous weapon in the hands of the wrong people.
@dovie317 Well i dont think churches are even a necessity for the people who really follow the words of Jesus, i think he mentioned something about that himself. He must have noticed what bad influences groups have on the singularity of man. And dont take my oppionions to be full of hate, people often do. Im dissapointed with the lack of compassion and understanding amongst my fellow humans, and all the stupid behaviour, so as a result im reacting by the standards of the people i see everywhere.
@Tyrfingr Actually, Jesus points out religion is bad, not spirituality and not church. Psalms 92:13 is a perfect example of why church is important. Matthew 16:18 + 19, He builds His church. Philippians 2:2-4 He speaks about coming together to aid one another as a church body. Romans 10: 17, where do you HEAR the Word of God but at a true church? Proverbs 11:14, wise counsel comes from church, from hearing Word of God. Church allows us to come together and strengthen one another and form bonds.
@Tyrfingr So yes, church is important. It is easy for those who are truly Christian, who have picked up The Bible for themselves as well (it says in The Bible to be a good student, and study on your own as well to find the heart), to be able to tell these things apart; churches which are true, and places that claim to be churches and are not.
Also, again, keep in mind not everyone is the same. Open your eyes and look deeper. There are surface people, and there are those who are deeper.
@Tyrfingr For example, take two children. One is a girl wearing a dress, and the other is a boy wearing a dress. The girl says she is a girl. The boy says he is a girl. Do you believe the boy is a girl just because he says he is, and he is wearing a dress?
No. You do not. So would you believe that someone is Christian just because they say they are? Do you blame all Christians for someone one person, who lied and said they were Christian, did? No. No, you do not.
@dovie317 I never did blame all christians for something one person did, i look at what the masses do, consistent behaviours and then draw my generalization from there. I guess i believe people when they say they believe in something, they might act in contradiction, but i dont doubt that they really believe. Some people can be raised to believe from the cradle, others it would seem turn into Hitler jugend, followed by becoming fanatical robots. See fanatical muslims for good example.
@Tyrfingr And those are individuals. Generalizing is what leads to disastrous things. See racism for example. :)
BTW, general populace actually AREN'T Christian. General populace has never BEEN Christian. You cannot believe everything you hear or are told. Bear that in mind, as it will serve you well in life.
@dovie317 Generalizing can lead to disastrous things, but it can also help you to avoid groups. Racists for example. :)
General populace are secular, and used to be forced into christianity, and those who didnt really believe pretended at best to stay alive.
As for hearing and being told, i dont even watch TV since years back, i only turn it on to check the Hockey tournament, and Olympics every fourth year. You will probably more find me to be a philosopher. It's all i need to handle life.
@Tyrfingr Exactly, general populace is secular. You can't believe what a secular group tells you about a group that isn't secular, seeing as they would not know and would not have any experience whatsoever. Do try to discern the difference between spiritual people and secular people before making generalizations about spiritual people. I would also ask that you research more before trying to make a generalization about organize religion being to blame for atrocities.
@dovie317 If you want to debate this issue, i would much preffere to take it by Pm. Character limits, and 3-4 seperate comment inputs of different topics is a bit of a head ache to deal with. Something new always arises in these discussions.
Im quite spiritual myself thank you, not just abiding to any religion.
People, you're not getting the point. The point is this country is finally finding out the truth, the horrible truth of what has been done to our Natives! The "Ghost Dance" prophecy is being fulfilled!
@WhiteStarWoman Maybe the Ghost Dance prophesy is being fulfilled. But all Americans who are not Tribal Americans/ First Nations/(Indians) have not vanished . The Ghost Dance people seem to have been the equivalent of hard-core Evangelical Christians, that is, convinced the world was going to end, and wanting to take part in it. I have nothing against people like that unless they hurt or abuse other people, but people who believe things like that scare me terribly. Continued.
@ARP7777777 The Ghost Dance wasn't about the end of the world. It was about the creation of a better one similar to what many believe 2012 will be when there'll be a shift in global consciousness ushering this world into a more enlightened state. The people were desperate and had to believe in something because their reality was so painful and horrifying. They portrayed the ultimate example of faith and were murdered at Wounded Knee because of it.
@WhiteStarWoman Terribly sorry you think so. I have a fear of apocalyptic visions, and the kind of people who want them to come to past. I have a fear of people like that. I did not think the Ghost Dancers were dangerous, just sad. But when people talk about the end of the world, and spiritual favoritism, I become ill. I had no intention of insulting you or anyone else. I have a BIG mouth. What can I do to get you to forgive me??
@ARP7777777 I have the same fear of the extremists and I have no use for religion. I see it as one of the ills of our society. There's nothing to forgive. I'm just happy to share what I know about our very misunderstood Natives. I write for a "Native" online magazine and would love to have you check us out! Look up Whispernthunderdotorg or check out the beginnings of our Youtube channel titled Whispernthunder! Also look up my vid Lost Bird of Wounded Knee for a tear jerker.
@ARP7777777 Now you sound like the paronoid white soldiers that murdered those at Wounded Knee and Turkey Creek. They were so afraid of our Native's spirituality. If they had stopped to ask what it was really about, nah, they wouldn't get it.
i havent yet to get to see this movie but i got the honor to meet kevin twice and watch the first 15 minutes of this movie while it was still being made. my friend is in it and i would love to watch it. its just so amazing. i love all of kevin's work
Honestly, this film looks like it sucks.
wafotnytt 3 weeks ago
White people must all die!!! White devils!
minicopilot 3 months ago
It is fucked up that America did not learn to embrace the native people earlier
It is fucked up that native culture and art is not more main stream
NYWAORCANZ 4 months ago
wow bigots on this page...I can't believe people actually disliked this trailer..it's a good film and history as well
misledmsd 5 months ago
"I'm gonna out whiteman the goddamn whiteman!"
amtraklover 6 months ago 2
Wes Studi is the fuckin man!!
LONEBLUE25 7 months ago
guys, if any1 knows any movie like this, can u tell me the name of it? i really need it for a presentation in few hours, i need it , aaahhh
00Mj000 7 months ago
Lord! Authoritarian scum . . .
ARP7777777 7 months ago
@Directopalooza I guess that's what you get.
screwface1011 7 months ago
wow..amazing..awesome..just watched this in webmovietube
StillingsSheila 7 months ago
This was an amazing movie. Really made me take a look at my heritage, and what suffering they went through. I'm proud to come from something so strong.
TwitardGirl 8 months ago
Most people know nothing about the Indian slave trade.
AdvancedGentleman 8 months ago
white people.....may the creator have mercy on your rotten souls. you people have done nothing but create misery on this planet for peoples of color and you have to pay for that. you are a mutated, recessive demon seed and I hope I live long enough to see all of your asses burn. fuck you very much.
screwface1011 8 months ago
Damn Europeans! They took the land from all natives of america ! and then they call them immigrants or ilegal aliens ! The only immigrants are us!
diegosti 8 months ago
Hey, anybody know who that actor is 0:53? I've seen him before and I can't remember where and it's driving me crazy.
BisonTurdjoy 9 months ago
teachers displaced grandmothers clan power & censored the matriarchy wisdom- teachers create inequality & teach wrong way of relating w others- screw up me & then my daughters now the grandkids- let matriarchy iroquois grandmothers RETURN
lmollot 9 months ago 2
This is an Awesome depiction of the ONE of many wrongs done to the natives.
mssquirrely 9 months ago
Great movie,finally something worth watching,whats amazing to me is that we haven't learned anything from it, my heart goes not only to The Native Americans but to African Americans and to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq and Vietnam and Japan and Cuba and so on...well i dont think its going to stop anytime soon,and you know why? just read the Comments,
narisosoful 9 months ago
We were so wrong to that .We should have learned and reqiured a proper education .Maybe we would have learned some thing
nokiannie 10 months ago
I saw this movie last night on cable. It hurt as this was done to my mother. She, and her siblings were "kidnapped" from their home while their dad was working. They made them walk along side the wagon, 75 miles away to the Stewart Indian School south of the Nevada capitol of Carson City. She will not talk about it anymore...
dk7dk7 11 months ago
@dk7dk7
So very sorry for all the pain and suffering..
sagebrush1877 10 months ago
@dk7dk7 It's too painful as with my grandmother and great-grandmother....Peace
mssquirrely 9 months ago
njoyed this great movie in webmovietube
divinagoettel22 11 months ago
That guy was such a self hating Native American. he pissed me off!!!!! Good movie though
SiiSTALUV 1 year ago
I've just viewed the movie. This happened to Native American, Alaskan Natives etc. well into the 20th century! The Canadian gov't has apologized for their part and rendered raparations. The US gov't has not. Although money and an apology doesn't wipe away the Nation's sin it's an acknowledgement of the wrongness and admission of ignorance. The same would be appreciated from Blacks. My heart sunk as those children were captured (stolen) from their families. Many died from the abuse!
sassysizzle 1 year ago
It is sad and unfortunate that the American Peoples of this land were moved aside like one would move a log from the pathway, then this has happened over and over again throughout the world, throughout all times. Hasn't there always been people who feel they knew better, what was best for all. Look at the plight of the aborigines in Australia, the Maya, Incas, Aztecs, the eskimos, the gentle tribes of Brazil, on and on, small people will always do this, but one cannot extinguish the light within
neoshoman 1 year ago
@neoshoman I am european born in USA and I felt bad for the Salvadorians, Mexicans and Native Americans in general! (not white latinos who are Europeans too) they took their land and did to them really bad things! a shame!!!!
diegosti 8 months ago
also when i watched it i thought man black weren't the only ones who struggled hard in america
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
this movie pissed me off so bad
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
i have just finish watching this great film on encore westerns. I see many parallels to today, not even to mention the plight of the natives of this great country. God bless the American Indian, and forgive our ancestors for the terrible deeds they did in our ignorant state. GREAT FILM... God Bless
paulypoo66 1 year ago
Beautiful music!!! Reminds me of the Bulgarian native music very much. I find a lot of similarities in the native american and bulgarian cultures
BulgarianFolkMusic 1 year ago
off thewarpath is bull shit
mariotttttttt 1 year ago
wes studi i thought was edward james almos at first
pistolpete667 1 year ago
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Xaber1 1 year ago
watched last night good film
Atonil 1 year ago
Every one needs to see this movie, I have been watching a lot of Aborignal films because I need a change from the block buster bullshit movies. Not only does this touch on a very important issue our white asshole ancestors left us with but this film is ART. Beautiful, moving, raw..There is a lot of good talent out there in the Native American community that needs to be seen when it comes to films like this and actors. Watch it you will be moved. I hope to see more films like this.
GreenCornify 1 year ago 11
@GreenCornify
That's just what I thought, too! There are so many gorgeous films made by NA artists in the states. Great stories, great actors AND real good entertainment at the same time. There's garbage on TV and cinema en masse. But here in Germany you have to actively look for this "film jewels" like "skins" and all the others.
So thanks for this trailer and all your comments.
Mo66F 1 year ago
@GreenCornify Tell me about it. According to Rotten Tomatoes Bridesmaids is better than Apocalypto.
jacoblgames 6 months ago
This is such a good movie, but to be honest this trailer does not do it justice, JUST SEE THE MOVIE! :D
2paranoid2think 1 year ago 2
wow this sounds good
LauraKnaturegirl 1 year ago
I've met most of these people. they filmed in a location close to me and stayed at the hotel i worked at :)
ShelbyLinsea 1 year ago
@ShelbyLinsea so have I, the actors are great! I met them when our theater class from HINU went to visit the set at the museum off mass street, and this is a really good movie
nativeiceman 1 year ago
I'm watching it again right now on the Encore Western channel. It's coming on again tonight at 11:30pm eastern time on the Encore Western channel. It's such an amazing movie.
FreeBree6 1 year ago
Available on Netflix. An absolute must see.
KittenTheRogue 1 year ago
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kapie619 1 year ago
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kapie619 1 year ago
Watch/Read Rabbit Proof Fence too.
Seems the 20th century was brimming with cruelty....emotional, physical, spiritual, cultural genocides on every continent.
mokilee 1 year ago
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Profound. I reviewed it here: livinginthehood.blogspot.com/2010/07/movie-only-good-indian.html
rriverstone1 1 year ago
Just saw it recently. Not your typical Hollywood movie -- it's more like watching scenes unfold in real life. Great film.
Onomon 1 year ago
When is this coming out on video? I really wanna see it!
08lynne 1 year ago
cool movie, saw it on #FTW Go Movie World . com #CUTE
EdieCatoeify 1 year ago
This is a great film. I thought it showed very well what the Native American children went through in these hellish "schools". One of my favorite scenes is when McCoy (the famous Indian "killer") walks into the school, and shoots a portrait of an "Americanized" (i.e. white) Native American, while the principal looks on in shock. McCoy says: "What you people are doing is much worse than anything I ever did to the Indians..." How very true. That time period was nothing short of genocide.
danjf1 1 year ago 6
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PoppyBWclkcrc 1 year ago
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GreenCamronyf 1 year ago
Is this a movie about a residential school?
Guyverman01 1 year ago
This was a pretty cool movie, at first I was really getting angry. But, in the ending it was so good, I am proud of this movie, I hope to see it again someday soon.
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damn fam i aint even gon lie i seen this movie today on tv & i aint know yall natives had yall whole culture massacred by them white folks damn fam im black but that shit was like damn whatever white ppl seem to touch they RUIN it
es4800 1 year ago
damn fama i aint even gon lie i seen this movie today on tv & i aint know yall natives had yall whole culture massacred by them white folks damn fam im black but that shit was like damn whatever white ppl seem to touch they RUIN it
es4800 1 year ago
Wes Studi's dialogue "I'm gonna out-whiteman the whiteman" is so telling of the mental slavery humans undergo, when they are subjected to such conditions over a long time. That is really the hypocrisy behind the beginning of the fall in American global hegemony.
0synesthete0 1 year ago
a movie trying to be righteous but calls them indian how ironic
i am indian, they are natives for fucks sake get it right
tjohn1986 1 year ago
@tjohn1986 They were trying to make a point about how the whites viewed all of us. Please don't act out and speak so negatively if you do not understand what is going on.
dovie317 1 year ago
@tjohn1986 i understand where you are coming from but that is only a small minor thing.
mjjcng8958 1 year ago
Colonizing oppressors did to american people, what russian people did against their oppressors, one century later. That is where we see, violence leads to violence, except if we decide to think an other way (which has never be impossible).
Greenbat85 1 year ago
im sure you all like these kinds of "sentimental" movies...but the direction seems to suck
nickgen123 1 year ago
You can purchase the DVD at the film's site - TheOnlyGoodIndian,COM
scottr10 2 years ago
I would really like to see this movie...does anyone know where I can get it?
summertsun 2 years ago
people always say the Nazi where bad for killing Jews truth truth but still who payed for the extermination of the Native ! its like every one forgot what happen !!
MrAwake2012 2 years ago 4
also thats where hitler got the idea from
joshingridtv 1 year ago
Dawin has a lot to answer for?!!!! You fuckin moron! Dawin is a theory!
DiarrheaMusketeer 2 years ago
yes but look at what happened when people take notice to Darwins theory, look at the evidence above.
ziggy6848 2 years ago
How can you get this movie?
natthegirl 2 years ago
@natthegirl movies2k
dasnoman21 2 years ago 2
J Kenneth Campbell is the one-in-the same uber bad guy in the film Australia. He really knows how to make you hate him. This looks like an excellent film. Can't wait for the release. Anyone know the release date?
TheNSAIE 2 years ago
Darwin has a lot to answer for. God bless the American native.
ziggy6848 2 years ago 12
@ziggy6848 Darwin has alot to answer for... And the god bless the Natives ?.. how ironic considering it was the religious people who branded them as savages and nearly killed them off.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr Yes maybe, Religious people kill people all the time. But look at true christian missionarys like Brainard, who fought for Indian rights, and was well loved by many tribes. Johny Cash (christian) who gave his time and money for the rights of the American Natives, the list is endless.
ziggy6848 1 year ago
@ziggy6848 Well i dont mean to seem offensive or anything, im just tired of the fundamental and organized religions that is what caused all these events in history. Individuals tend to handle belief in a proper way, but as soon as they group together it always takes a turn for the worst. The indians in the spiritual sense lived in ways that are far and beyond wiser and more respectful than us Europeans.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr I Know where you are coming from, but fundamentalists have never grouped together, as they are called fundamentalists. also lets not paint all indian tribes as something of romantic. dont forget, many tribes butched other tribes for land, before the europians came.
ziggy6848 1 year ago
@ziggy6848 I havent yet noticed that fundamentalists arent grouping together, least not the once i talked to. As for Indians, im simply pointing at something positive about them, that would have held us back from invading out of greed. If i said that you were marginalizing centuries of atrocities based on a few acts of missionary kindness. You would react thinking i was full of presumptions as well. I have spent some 20 years studying history to this point, in all genres and of all countries.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr Really? Then why do so many aid groups in churches do so much good?
I'm going to point out something that I seem to have to repeat over and over again to many different people. People can always SAY they are one thing (Christian, for example), and not really BE that one thing. It's so easy to say "I'm Christian," but unless you LIVE it, unless you REALLY ARE CHRISTIAN, then you're lying. And so many people who have claimed to be Christian have lied.
dovie317 1 year ago
@dovie317 Lied ?, isnt it more likely that people being brought up and having belief inforced by parents, will think that they are Christians. Only reason i say it, is because the large group were believers of god, even if it was a messed up view of the original message, No Church ever stepped in to stave off the mob. If anything it shows that organized religions are liable to be the most dangerous weapon in the hands of the wrong people.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr I say lie because it is very, very clear in The Bible about the differences between Christian and not Christian.
And who is to say no church ever stepped in? Plenty of churches have always stepped up and stepped in. Plenty still do.
dovie317 1 year ago
@dovie317 Well i dont think churches are even a necessity for the people who really follow the words of Jesus, i think he mentioned something about that himself. He must have noticed what bad influences groups have on the singularity of man. And dont take my oppionions to be full of hate, people often do. Im dissapointed with the lack of compassion and understanding amongst my fellow humans, and all the stupid behaviour, so as a result im reacting by the standards of the people i see everywhere.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr Actually, Jesus points out religion is bad, not spirituality and not church. Psalms 92:13 is a perfect example of why church is important. Matthew 16:18 + 19, He builds His church. Philippians 2:2-4 He speaks about coming together to aid one another as a church body. Romans 10: 17, where do you HEAR the Word of God but at a true church? Proverbs 11:14, wise counsel comes from church, from hearing Word of God. Church allows us to come together and strengthen one another and form bonds.
dovie317 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr So yes, church is important. It is easy for those who are truly Christian, who have picked up The Bible for themselves as well (it says in The Bible to be a good student, and study on your own as well to find the heart), to be able to tell these things apart; churches which are true, and places that claim to be churches and are not.
Also, again, keep in mind not everyone is the same. Open your eyes and look deeper. There are surface people, and there are those who are deeper.
dovie317 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr For example, take two children. One is a girl wearing a dress, and the other is a boy wearing a dress. The girl says she is a girl. The boy says he is a girl. Do you believe the boy is a girl just because he says he is, and he is wearing a dress?
No. You do not. So would you believe that someone is Christian just because they say they are? Do you blame all Christians for someone one person, who lied and said they were Christian, did? No. No, you do not.
dovie317 1 year ago
@dovie317 I never did blame all christians for something one person did, i look at what the masses do, consistent behaviours and then draw my generalization from there. I guess i believe people when they say they believe in something, they might act in contradiction, but i dont doubt that they really believe. Some people can be raised to believe from the cradle, others it would seem turn into Hitler jugend, followed by becoming fanatical robots. See fanatical muslims for good example.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr And those are individuals. Generalizing is what leads to disastrous things. See racism for example. :)
BTW, general populace actually AREN'T Christian. General populace has never BEEN Christian. You cannot believe everything you hear or are told. Bear that in mind, as it will serve you well in life.
dovie317 1 year ago
@dovie317 Generalizing can lead to disastrous things, but it can also help you to avoid groups. Racists for example. :)
General populace are secular, and used to be forced into christianity, and those who didnt really believe pretended at best to stay alive.
As for hearing and being told, i dont even watch TV since years back, i only turn it on to check the Hockey tournament, and Olympics every fourth year. You will probably more find me to be a philosopher. It's all i need to handle life.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr Exactly, general populace is secular. You can't believe what a secular group tells you about a group that isn't secular, seeing as they would not know and would not have any experience whatsoever. Do try to discern the difference between spiritual people and secular people before making generalizations about spiritual people. I would also ask that you research more before trying to make a generalization about organize religion being to blame for atrocities.
dovie317 1 year ago
@dovie317 If you want to debate this issue, i would much preffere to take it by Pm. Character limits, and 3-4 seperate comment inputs of different topics is a bit of a head ache to deal with. Something new always arises in these discussions.
Im quite spiritual myself thank you, not just abiding to any religion.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@Tyrfingr Sure, feel free to PM me to discuss this point.
dovie317 1 year ago
@ziggy6848 Amen to that.
Mosh4Yesh777 1 year ago
People, you're not getting the point. The point is this country is finally finding out the truth, the horrible truth of what has been done to our Natives! The "Ghost Dance" prophecy is being fulfilled!
WhiteStarWoman 2 years ago 16
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The ghost dance was never more but a desperate act to try and drive the white people out.
maevista 2 years ago
They diserve to be drivin down
GIRLFRIENDCHICKS 2 years ago
Agreed,still it was nothing more than a broken arrow.
maevista 2 years ago
U r a piece of s*%@t. No one deserves to be treated like the Indians were & are.
traches711 2 years ago
@GIRLFRIENDCHICKS Ummmm, who, pray tell?
dovie317 1 year ago
@WhiteStarWoman This may sound like a stupid question but what is the "Ghost Dance" prophecy?
demonicbrat 1 year ago
@WhiteStarWoman Ur right on that
LAprodz 8 months ago
@WhiteStarWoman Maybe the Ghost Dance prophesy is being fulfilled. But all Americans who are not Tribal Americans/ First Nations/(Indians) have not vanished . The Ghost Dance people seem to have been the equivalent of hard-core Evangelical Christians, that is, convinced the world was going to end, and wanting to take part in it. I have nothing against people like that unless they hurt or abuse other people, but people who believe things like that scare me terribly. Continued.
ARP7777777 7 months ago
@ARP7777777 The Ghost Dance wasn't about the end of the world. It was about the creation of a better one similar to what many believe 2012 will be when there'll be a shift in global consciousness ushering this world into a more enlightened state. The people were desperate and had to believe in something because their reality was so painful and horrifying. They portrayed the ultimate example of faith and were murdered at Wounded Knee because of it.
WhiteStarWoman 7 months ago
@WhiteStarWoman Terribly sorry you think so. I have a fear of apocalyptic visions, and the kind of people who want them to come to past. I have a fear of people like that. I did not think the Ghost Dancers were dangerous, just sad. But when people talk about the end of the world, and spiritual favoritism, I become ill. I had no intention of insulting you or anyone else. I have a BIG mouth. What can I do to get you to forgive me??
ARP7777777 7 months ago
@ARP7777777 I have the same fear of the extremists and I have no use for religion. I see it as one of the ills of our society. There's nothing to forgive. I'm just happy to share what I know about our very misunderstood Natives. I write for a "Native" online magazine and would love to have you check us out! Look up Whispernthunderdotorg or check out the beginnings of our Youtube channel titled Whispernthunder! Also look up my vid Lost Bird of Wounded Knee for a tear jerker.
WhiteStarWoman 7 months ago
@WhiteStarWoman You never know what people who think this world is only a stepping stone will do. I think of Jonestown, and the Spanish Inquisition.
ARP7777777 7 months ago
@ARP7777777 Now you sound like the paronoid white soldiers that murdered those at Wounded Knee and Turkey Creek. They were so afraid of our Native's spirituality. If they had stopped to ask what it was really about, nah, they wouldn't get it.
WhiteStarWoman 7 months ago
I want to see ... even the trailer is riveting.
SusanDeerCloud 2 years ago
the hores fron 46 to 50 is my naghbors its lives in redfield sd and it went to kansas and she didnt no till it got back
braun747 2 years ago 2
My little Cousin is in the movie too.on the part where they are sitting down she is the 2nd starting from the left.
natthegirl 2 years ago
i havent yet to get to see this movie but i got the honor to meet kevin twice and watch the first 15 minutes of this movie while it was still being made. my friend is in it and i would love to watch it. its just so amazing. i love all of kevin's work
purplekatiebear 2 years ago
cant to wait to see!
MidwestMex 2 years ago
WOW this looks so great! i'd really love to see this..
thalkettoth 2 years ago
I worked on this film as an extra to. I'm also in the trailer, which is cool.
7601productions 2 years ago
so you know Wes Studi then?
IchLiebeDeutschland9 2 years ago
Wes Studi is so awesome!
IchLiebeDeutschland9 2 years ago
What is the music in this trailer? It's amazing.
gneerowblack 3 years ago 2
im in the movie! and my dad produced the movie!
lunarflare1997 3 years ago
Hey so do you know Daryal Hooper.
natthegirl 2 years ago
I hope it does well, I'm an extra in this movie to.
unabashedproxy 3 years ago
Yooo!!! Oh my gosh Winter Fox! People said to imdb you, i had no idea that you were in something so big. It looks good. Definitely gonna see it.
ShayDartmouth1990 3 years ago
my sister and cousins were extras in that movie, when they were shooting in topeka kansas
wholeinurbutt 3 years ago
cool my little cousin is in there and from kickapoo
natthegirl 2 years ago