There´s a mistake in the act: Vorador kills the circle WITH THE SOUL REAVER and at the same time Raziel has the reaver in front of himself... How could this be??! oO
@SandrachenGaara Not mistake at all. In fact in BO1 and Defiance we see that Vorador have "the bone sword" and this blade looks just like the soul reaver but it was not the same blade. Dont forget that in BO1 Kain reclaim the "bone armor" and the bone sword it was supposed to be the sword from this armor. But finally the bone sword was not included in the final game. And Vorador forged the Reaver for Janos and the Ancients, perhaps he make his own sword in resemblance with the Reaver.
@DUMAH11523 : are you sure of that? Because I´m pretty sure that vorador said, he killed the circle with the soul reaver oO ... but it makes sence what you say - so i believe you ;D
@SandrachenGaara Vorador never claimed that he killed the Circle with the Reaver. He only claim "After slaughtering six of the sheep I defeated their pathetic little shepherd, Malek". And according with what he says to Raziel: Vorador dont even know what sorcery the Ancients laid upon the Reaver after he created.
So he only made the blade and then the Ancients keep the Reaver safe from anyone else, what it means that Vorador never wield the sword but only when he was working in forged the Reaver
IF the circle was slain and then led to be ariel and the others on BO,
why was it the hyldan never appeared after the circle got owne by vorador,and who were the ancestors of the guardians...and where is the 10th pillar wich is janos?....
OR the hyldan didnt come bcz janos wasnt dead?....
so this is why malek got to his companions too late! raziel taveled back to before kain was a vampire. if raziel had killed malek, malek would be raziels future vampire brother.
@Joudas Yes Because Malek was Cursed by Mortanius and his body was lost forever. Malek is after this scene only Ghost in the shell :D He must Guard even after his own death serve to FALLEN GUARDIANS and protect them. You can see him when Kain attack to on of Guardian . Followed Fight between Malek and Vorador.
@Joudas it's also worth mentioning that malek was killed by vorador in blood omen 1. it would have been pretty cool though kain raasing a vampire hunter as a vampire. blasthemous joke.
@Joudas malek was recognized as a great hero... in defiance, you will se his statue..i don't remember where, but, search for it =)...I believe he just lived long enough, so he was to old "in corpse" to rise again...because, obviously when kain raises raziel and his brothers they were "decomposed" but they die young =)
@yurikatos However, in BO1, in the intro when we see Mortaneus punishing Malek for failing to protect them from Vorador, we see his body literally crumble to dust in an instant - that's not exactly 'decomposed' - that's a significant amount more extreme.
@Joudas I think it's more like what Raziel says when confronting his brothers as Sarafan. Kain's private joke, is that Raziel is the one who killed them, and himself, in the first place.
Raziel didn't kill Malek. Mortaneus killed his body, and then Vorador killed his spirit. Where's the fun in making him a Lieutenant?
@Joudas I think it also may be the fact That malek's soul and body were separated. Kain's way of raising vampires is giving them a part of his soul, this may take parts of both souls to do. and as such Malek could not reunite his soul and body therefore he couldn't raise Malek as a vampire
They did die young yes, but they laid in their tombs for at least 500 years before they are even mentioned again in Defiance. Raziel revives Janos in Defiance and tells him that 500 years passed, that his murderers are long dead.
it is so crazy how they tied everything together. like in Blood Omen Ariel calls for malak but he was not there only to be known later that he was really dealing with the future Raziiel..... DUN DUN DUNNNNNN
@Orumon27 Yep Ariel was new Guardian Last of last people guardians.
You know there was Nine Guardians. " The Circle of Nine"
But I wonder Why never autors of the game never showed murder of Ariel her face or much from this event? I know that is terrible scene but this scene was key for whole story of LEGACY OF KAIN !!!! Same as you never seen when was Mortanius possesed by Hylden Lord.
@KingTeDdY62 Yes she was born but she was young and after this event, Ariel alongside with Nupraptor, Bane, DeJoule, Anarchrote and Azimuth were put in charge to serve as pillar guardians alongside with Moebius, Mortanius and what was left of Malek.
Sorry, hit 'Spam' rather than reply to c2's message... To answer, maybe 'Raziel' is just a popular name? For example, I know at least 7 other people who share my name :)
HERE IS WHERE I GET SO CONFUSED... MALEK IS ONE OF RAZIEL'S BROTHERS...I MEAN HIS TOMB IS WITH THE OTHERS ON THE TOMB OF SARAFAN... THEN WHY?..WHHY MALEK WAS NOT SURPRISE WHEN HE HEARD MOEBIUS CALLIN DAT CREATURE "RAZIEL" ...I MEAN DATS HIS BROTHER'S NAME!!!SOMEONE PLS EXPLAIN... just search for the video : THE TOMB OF SARAFAN... this video is from soul reaver 1. someone pls explain.. why did malek did not react like ..is this raziel?? wat happened to him? u kno wat i mean?
Malek is not Raziel's brother, he's just another Sarafan knight, and at this point the human Raziel is still alive. Malek on the other hand is the Guardian of Combat part of the circle, and doesn't die until several centuries later during Kain's purge of the circle.
He doesn't get surprised because he sees a demon, not a man, he doesn't care what it's name is. So what if Moebius calls it Raziel, Moebius probably sounds half insane to 90% of the people he talks to anyway.
@c2305 Actually, in their human life, Malek, Raziel, Turel, Dumah, Rahab, Zephon and Melchiah were breathren not brothers. When they were raise by Kain (all save Malek), they were brothers because they shared Kain's essence but in human like they were not related. They were kinda close friends.
@FUCKTHEREST92 .. thnx for replying.. i guess they were "like" brothers,.. anyways you should check my video its call "legacy of kain uv tatto".. i just got a tatto with raziel's clan in my right arm ;)
hmm...i wonder what would've happened if anything if malak spoke of raziel the demonic being who took up the soul reaver when he fought vorador in either of their battles
It wasn't the moment Kain was resurrected - the moment Ariel was killed is the moment he was born. Nupraptor discovered her dead and his anguish corrupted the minds of the circle and, in turn, Kain, as he became the new balance guardian at the moment of his birth. He wasn't resurrected until much later (after he died, of course).
Nupraptor's insanity had poisoned the minds of the circle, including Kain. The Spirit Reaver healed him thousands of years later after treading his destined path, and this effectively made him Balance Guardian once more.
Perhaps, if and when Kain returns to the time he left, the time of his empire, the Balance Pillar within the Sanctuary of the Clans would reflect his soul, as it always had, and be restored to an extent upon his return...
You guys got confused here, this is the day ariel was born, and the other bold balance guardian died.500 years later ariel is murdered and is the first part of sr2.
Janos wasn't a guardian; he wasn't even alive at the moment the pillars became corrupted - his heart had already been torn from his chest some 500 years prior.
How easy it was for Moebius to lure Raziel into this trap. Yet I wonder... Moebius was completely ignorant of the Unsponken, for he was rather unsettled when the Hylden walked into Nosgoth after the destruction of the pillars. Was Moebius aware of the full set of consequences of letting Raziel take the Reaver? I think not... that is why he eventually fell, enraptured as he was with his fanatic devotion to the Elder God, whom he only saw in the most horrible way just before Raziel consumed him
Lies and Slander! There is, and can only be one Lord of the Sarafan! Malek is the single most powerful master of all of them. Vorador was the only, the ONLY Vampire able to kill Malek. The Sarafan Lord, the Hylden General, was nothing compared to Malek. He broke Vorador's nose in a single strike. Vorador, who was said by the ButterflyLord to be able to kill ANY and I mean ANY of the Lieutenants with his bare hands in their evolved forms.
the founder of the order of the sarafan was a hylden known only as "Sarafan Lord" Malek is second in command of the knights and raziel is 3rd and commands his future breterin. mobius' position in the order is of a duel commander with the hylden and took the reigns of command after Kain defeated the lord with the aid of Janos Auldrin.
this is a truely epic series and possibly the greatest game plot ever created as it all ties in almost with out flaw.
No there were two 'sarafan' cults - the original one and the one re-created by the Hylden Lord many years later in BO2 following the time-changing events of SR2. The Sarafan in this game have NOTHING to do with the Hylden!!!
Ok there is ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING... isnt MALEK ONE OF raziel'S BROTHER?? YES HE IS !..SO, WHY MALEK DID NOT GET DISTURB AT ALL TO HEAR THE NAME OF THE CREATURE,??(RAZIEL) DID HE KNOW ALREADY DAT IT WAS HIS BROTHER RAZIEL??? PLS I WANT ANSWERS !!!!
In any case, Raziel doesn't even recognize himself later (vampire Raziel vs. Sarafan Raziel scene), so maybe Raziel is changed more than it actually seems...
this is happenin 500 before BO1, 500 years after BO1 Kain reborn Raziel as his lieutenant, 1000 years after that (1500 after BO1) Kain discards Raziel into the abyss and 1000 later Elder God reborn Raziel as a wraith (the form he is now) and 3000 years period between this and SR1
the elder god was not capable of reviving raziel and thus made mobius revive raziel from the abyss into the spectral realm,dude if you dont belive me play defiance
god spare me! the elder could not ressurect a presence such as raziel so he got his follower mobius to and at the middle of soul reaver on psx mobius asks if raziel is sure the elder ressurected him dude if you dont get what i am saying replay the whole series
I think you're getting your games mixed up - Moebius isn't in SR1 until the last few seconds of the ending movie - he's long dead when SR1 takes place, as has been stated. You've got your time lines very, very confused.
Well, Raziel was made a vampire by Kain, of course. It's not completely clear what made him a soul stealing wraith, but probably the Elder did, it beeing like the single most powerful creature in Nosgoth and all. I don't know what Moebius has to do with any of it.
no, If malek and moebious kept in that room that would be stupid, they would be doomed because Raziel had the Reaver and with it he could even defeat Malek,however strong he was.
just asking, this happened when vorador first attacked the circle of nine right? that's why malek failed his duty and was cursed. all this time travelling confuses me
The voices in this game are fantastic. I just wish I could get the game to work on windows 7, 64 bit.
joshanator1 11 months ago
one of the most underated series of all time. shame really such great voice acting beautifully written storyline and a huge gothic atmosphere.
breasthound 11 months ago
There´s a mistake in the act: Vorador kills the circle WITH THE SOUL REAVER and at the same time Raziel has the reaver in front of himself... How could this be??! oO
SandrachenGaara 1 year ago
@SandrachenGaara Not mistake at all. In fact in BO1 and Defiance we see that Vorador have "the bone sword" and this blade looks just like the soul reaver but it was not the same blade. Dont forget that in BO1 Kain reclaim the "bone armor" and the bone sword it was supposed to be the sword from this armor. But finally the bone sword was not included in the final game. And Vorador forged the Reaver for Janos and the Ancients, perhaps he make his own sword in resemblance with the Reaver.
DUMAH11523 11 months ago
@DUMAH11523 : are you sure of that? Because I´m pretty sure that vorador said, he killed the circle with the soul reaver oO ... but it makes sence what you say - so i believe you ;D
SandrachenGaara 11 months ago
@SandrachenGaara Vorador never claimed that he killed the Circle with the Reaver. He only claim "After slaughtering six of the sheep I defeated their pathetic little shepherd, Malek". And according with what he says to Raziel: Vorador dont even know what sorcery the Ancients laid upon the Reaver after he created.
So he only made the blade and then the Ancients keep the Reaver safe from anyone else, what it means that Vorador never wield the sword but only when he was working in forged the Reaver
DUMAH11523 11 months ago
IF the circle was slain and then led to be ariel and the others on BO,
why was it the hyldan never appeared after the circle got owne by vorador,and who were the ancestors of the guardians...and where is the 10th pillar wich is janos?....
OR the hyldan didnt come bcz janos wasnt dead?....
beautygoddess13 1 year ago
fulgor using a spear
Arzaker 1 year ago
when malek leaves he is captured by vorador and ripped from his body cursed as an empty suit of armor.
nigelchitownking 1 year ago
so this is why malek got to his companions too late! raziel taveled back to before kain was a vampire. if raziel had killed malek, malek would be raziels future vampire brother.
nigelchitownking 1 year ago
Why there is no Malek in sr 1?
VeldrinX 2 years ago
Kain never raised Malek as a vampire. This may be because there was simply nothing left to raise.
Joudas 2 years ago
@Joudas Yes Because Malek was Cursed by Mortanius and his body was lost forever. Malek is after this scene only Ghost in the shell :D He must Guard even after his own death serve to FALLEN GUARDIANS and protect them. You can see him when Kain attack to on of Guardian . Followed Fight between Malek and Vorador.
Bojistak 1 year ago
@Joudas it's also worth mentioning that malek was killed by vorador in blood omen 1. it would have been pretty cool though kain raasing a vampire hunter as a vampire. blasthemous joke.
breasthound 11 months ago
@Joudas malek was recognized as a great hero... in defiance, you will se his statue..i don't remember where, but, search for it =)...I believe he just lived long enough, so he was to old "in corpse" to rise again...because, obviously when kain raises raziel and his brothers they were "decomposed" but they die young =)
yurikatos 11 months ago
@yurikatos However, in BO1, in the intro when we see Mortaneus punishing Malek for failing to protect them from Vorador, we see his body literally crumble to dust in an instant - that's not exactly 'decomposed' - that's a significant amount more extreme.
Joudas 11 months ago
@Joudas It could also be that Kain didn't want to raise the body of someone who gave him so much trouble.
Suklavo 9 months ago
@Suklavo Knowing Kain as much as we do, I think that's exactly what he'd do - he'd love that too much to let it pass.
Joudas 9 months ago
@Joudas I think it's more like what Raziel says when confronting his brothers as Sarafan. Kain's private joke, is that Raziel is the one who killed them, and himself, in the first place.
Raziel didn't kill Malek. Mortaneus killed his body, and then Vorador killed his spirit. Where's the fun in making him a Lieutenant?
Dimbo 9 months ago
@Joudas I think it also may be the fact That malek's soul and body were separated. Kain's way of raising vampires is giving them a part of his soul, this may take parts of both souls to do. and as such Malek could not reunite his soul and body therefore he couldn't raise Malek as a vampire
Srparisher 5 months ago
@yurikatos
They did die young yes, but they laid in their tombs for at least 500 years before they are even mentioned again in Defiance. Raziel revives Janos in Defiance and tells him that 500 years passed, that his murderers are long dead.
Soulreaver191 8 months ago
@VeldrinX Malek has no body, It was taken in Blood Omen, and raised as a Skeleton Armor =D
destan2402 1 year ago
who's the actor of the man at 1:01?
he sounds familiar
lotten16 2 years ago
Do you mean Raziel? (The blue guy)
Or Moebius? (The old man)
Raziel is voiced by Michael Bell, whereas Moebius is voiced by Richard Doyle.
I must say. the Legacy of Kain series has some of the best voice actors of any game I've ever played!
One of my favorite series.
10211111 2 years ago
it is so crazy how they tied everything together. like in Blood Omen Ariel calls for malak but he was not there only to be known later that he was really dealing with the future Raziiel..... DUN DUN DUNNNNNN
capone6sic6 2 years ago
Ariel didn't call for Malek, it was another member of the circle. That bald chick who's skin got imploded by Vorador.
Rahab111222 2 years ago 5
Ariel was summoned after this event.
Orumon27 2 years ago
@Orumon27 Yep Ariel was new Guardian Last of last people guardians.
You know there was Nine Guardians. " The Circle of Nine"
But I wonder Why never autors of the game never showed murder of Ariel her face or much from this event? I know that is terrible scene but this scene was key for whole story of LEGACY OF KAIN !!!! Same as you never seen when was Mortanius possesed by Hylden Lord.
Bojistak 1 year ago
@Bojistak
Actually, this is the day Ariel was born.
papapapa16 1 year ago
@capone6sic6
At this time Ariel was not born yet ! SR2 final scenes took 500 years before Ariel's death/Kain's birth. ;)
KingTeDdY62 2 years ago
@KingTeDdY62 Yes she was born but she was young and after this event, Ariel alongside with Nupraptor, Bane, DeJoule, Anarchrote and Azimuth were put in charge to serve as pillar guardians alongside with Moebius, Mortanius and what was left of Malek.
FUCKTHEREST92 1 year ago
simply,.. best fucking game. at least it is for me. ;)
c2305 2 years ago 10
best game series.
TheHumanGay 2 years ago 2
Sorry, hit 'Spam' rather than reply to c2's message... To answer, maybe 'Raziel' is just a popular name? For example, I know at least 7 other people who share my name :)
uthly1 2 years ago
HERE IS WHERE I GET SO CONFUSED... MALEK IS ONE OF RAZIEL'S BROTHERS...I MEAN HIS TOMB IS WITH THE OTHERS ON THE TOMB OF SARAFAN... THEN WHY?..WHHY MALEK WAS NOT SURPRISE WHEN HE HEARD MOEBIUS CALLIN DAT CREATURE "RAZIEL" ...I MEAN DATS HIS BROTHER'S NAME!!!SOMEONE PLS EXPLAIN... just search for the video : THE TOMB OF SARAFAN... this video is from soul reaver 1. someone pls explain.. why did malek did not react like ..is this raziel?? wat happened to him? u kno wat i mean?
c2305 2 years ago
Caps lock is not cruise control for cool.
WilltehGreat 2 years ago 3
Malek is not Raziel's brother, he's just another Sarafan knight, and at this point the human Raziel is still alive. Malek on the other hand is the Guardian of Combat part of the circle, and doesn't die until several centuries later during Kain's purge of the circle.
He doesn't get surprised because he sees a demon, not a man, he doesn't care what it's name is. So what if Moebius calls it Raziel, Moebius probably sounds half insane to 90% of the people he talks to anyway.
HellRiddle 2 years ago
@c2305 Actually, in their human life, Malek, Raziel, Turel, Dumah, Rahab, Zephon and Melchiah were breathren not brothers. When they were raise by Kain (all save Malek), they were brothers because they shared Kain's essence but in human like they were not related. They were kinda close friends.
FUCKTHEREST92 1 year ago
@FUCKTHEREST92 .. thnx for replying.. i guess they were "like" brothers,.. anyways you should check my video its call "legacy of kain uv tatto".. i just got a tatto with raziel's clan in my right arm ;)
c2305 1 year ago
hmm...i wonder what would've happened if anything if malak spoke of raziel the demonic being who took up the soul reaver when he fought vorador in either of their battles
doomsday12345 2 years ago
moebius: bolt the door malek! Oh, and by the way, conflictguardianwollbusedanddamnedtobeinafaggyarmorsayswhat?
malek: what?
moebius:nothing, lets go.
papapapa16 2 years ago 19
lol nice
warriorpoet525 2 years ago
@papapapa16 lol
awsome
Arzaker 1 year ago
how was malek not confused when moebius called raziel by the name? To malek, raziel is supposed to be one of his sarafan friends.
papapapa16 2 years ago
But when Raziel was a Sarafan, it happened like... I think 500 years before this. It's really confusing. There's ALOT of time travel in this game.
SuperRob45 2 years ago
"you vile bastard" hehe
djvillain 2 years ago 2
at ard 2mins there was a call for Malek. isn't this scene depicted in BO1, when vorrador came to destroy the circle?
ihatenarain 3 years ago
"Call your dogs! They can feast on your corpses! "
This can be heard in the video. It must be Vorrador, the very same words he used in the BO1 intro, this is the very same moment Kain was resurrected.
ihatenarain 3 years ago
It wasn't the moment Kain was resurrected - the moment Ariel was killed is the moment he was born. Nupraptor discovered her dead and his anguish corrupted the minds of the circle and, in turn, Kain, as he became the new balance guardian at the moment of his birth. He wasn't resurrected until much later (after he died, of course).
Joudas 3 years ago
Nupraptor's insanity had poisoned the minds of the circle, including Kain. The Spirit Reaver healed him thousands of years later after treading his destined path, and this effectively made him Balance Guardian once more.
Perhaps, if and when Kain returns to the time he left, the time of his empire, the Balance Pillar within the Sanctuary of the Clans would reflect his soul, as it always had, and be restored to an extent upon his return...
GmodPlusWoW 2 years ago
You guys got confused here, this is the day ariel was born, and the other bold balance guardian died.500 years later ariel is murdered and is the first part of sr2.
papapapa16 2 years ago 2
Hold on, Why wasn't Janos corrupted? He was the tenth guardian wasn't he?
masteroflicks 2 years ago
Janos wasn't a guardian; he wasn't even alive at the moment the pillars became corrupted - his heart had already been torn from his chest some 500 years prior.
Joudas 2 years ago
Ahhh sorry LoK can get very confusing at times, but im sure Janos said that he was the Reaver Guardian
masteroflicks 2 years ago
The reaver guardian as in he guards the Reaver, but not a formal guardian like the others.
Joudas 2 years ago
but Moebius was dead by the time of SR1
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
How easy it was for Moebius to lure Raziel into this trap. Yet I wonder... Moebius was completely ignorant of the Unsponken, for he was rather unsettled when the Hylden walked into Nosgoth after the destruction of the pillars. Was Moebius aware of the full set of consequences of letting Raziel take the Reaver? I think not... that is why he eventually fell, enraptured as he was with his fanatic devotion to the Elder God, whom he only saw in the most horrible way just before Raziel consumed him
Hasfast 3 years ago 2
Lies and Slander! There is, and can only be one Lord of the Sarafan! Malek is the single most powerful master of all of them. Vorador was the only, the ONLY Vampire able to kill Malek. The Sarafan Lord, the Hylden General, was nothing compared to Malek. He broke Vorador's nose in a single strike. Vorador, who was said by the ButterflyLord to be able to kill ANY and I mean ANY of the Lieutenants with his bare hands in their evolved forms.
FagDrag 3 years ago
the founder of the order of the sarafan was a hylden known only as "Sarafan Lord" Malek is second in command of the knights and raziel is 3rd and commands his future breterin. mobius' position in the order is of a duel commander with the hylden and took the reigns of command after Kain defeated the lord with the aid of Janos Auldrin.
this is a truely epic series and possibly the greatest game plot ever created as it all ties in almost with out flaw.
stringdog911 3 years ago
"this is a truely epic series and possibly the greatest game plot ever created as it all ties in almost with out flaw."
I totally agree!!!
hellchild0001 3 years ago
No there were two 'sarafan' cults - the original one and the one re-created by the Hylden Lord many years later in BO2 following the time-changing events of SR2. The Sarafan in this game have NOTHING to do with the Hylden!!!
Danny77uk 2 years ago 3
did you see Moebius' smile when the cyrcle is under attack at 1:42? that bastard does not care for those close to him
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
mobius is a manipulative twat
solidsnakedaboss1988 3 years ago
and anyway Moebius don't call Raziel an imbecile cuz you are one and you don't want to face the fact that you are weaker than even an ant
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
why Raziel didn't attacked Malek while he had the time to do it?
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
Because that would have created more story inconsistencies and paradoxical changes then the developers wanted to handle, is my guess.
Joudas 3 years ago
Ok there is ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING... isnt MALEK ONE OF raziel'S BROTHER?? YES HE IS !..SO, WHY MALEK DID NOT GET DISTURB AT ALL TO HEAR THE NAME OF THE CREATURE,??(RAZIEL) DID HE KNOW ALREADY DAT IT WAS HIS BROTHER RAZIEL??? PLS I WANT ANSWERS !!!!
c2305 3 years ago
Malek is't his brother, I think you've mistaken him with Melchiah.
hellchild0001 3 years ago
Malek is the leader of the Sarafan and Raziel was one of their Generals so it still seems like he should know him.
Yarghvid 3 years ago
No ,in Soul Reaver 1 one of the tombs definately had Malek's name carved in it.
PenguinsRuleThaWorld 3 years ago 3
In any case, Raziel doesn't even recognize himself later (vampire Raziel vs. Sarafan Raziel scene), so maybe Raziel is changed more than it actually seems...
hellchild0001 3 years ago
dude future raziel is 500 yrs older than his fucking sarafan self so he has evolved over the five centurys
solidsnakedaboss1988 3 years ago
5 centuries?
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
5 centuries-=500 years
century-a set 100 year revampely named as a century
solidsnakedaboss1988 3 years ago
yeah I know that but but well Vampire Raziel is far more older than his sarafan self it's kinda 3000 years older
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
this is happenin 500 before BO1, 500 years after BO1 Kain reborn Raziel as his lieutenant, 1000 years after that (1500 after BO1) Kain discards Raziel into the abyss and 1000 later Elder God reborn Raziel as a wraith (the form he is now) and 3000 years period between this and SR1
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
DUDE RAZIEL WAS NOT REVIVED BY THE ELDER IT WAS MOBIUS THAT ACTTUAL'LY REVIVED HIM AND dude elder revived raziel 100 years after kain discarded him
solidsnakedaboss1988 3 years ago
Raziel revived by Moebius? that's funny :))
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
the elder god was not capable of reviving raziel and thus made mobius revive raziel from the abyss into the spectral realm,dude if you dont belive me play defiance
solidsnakedaboss1988 3 years ago
I played and finished Defiance but I still don't get the point. how Moebius reborn Raziel
FUCKTHEREST92 3 years ago
god spare me! the elder could not ressurect a presence such as raziel so he got his follower mobius to and at the middle of soul reaver on psx mobius asks if raziel is sure the elder ressurected him dude if you dont get what i am saying replay the whole series
solidsnakedaboss1988 3 years ago
I think you're getting your games mixed up - Moebius isn't in SR1 until the last few seconds of the ending movie - he's long dead when SR1 takes place, as has been stated. You've got your time lines very, very confused.
Joudas 3 years ago
Well, Raziel was made a vampire by Kain, of course. It's not completely clear what made him a soul stealing wraith, but probably the Elder did, it beeing like the single most powerful creature in Nosgoth and all. I don't know what Moebius has to do with any of it.
Intricatename 3 years ago
i noticed that too
solidsnakedaboss1988 3 years ago
Raziel and co were never 'brothers' biologically., simply Brothers In Arms.
birkinsmith88 3 years ago
i think maybe is because raziel was alive to that moments... so there's no reason to think that about the raziel in front of him...
SepikRoque 3 years ago
What you hear in the background is from LOK Blood Omen
basher22234 4 years ago 3
Yes, thats right...BO intro
CthulhuSatanist 4 years ago
I'm supprised Silicon Knights gave them permission; you know what companies with their copywright can be like. A Very nice touch, though, it is.
birkinsmith88 3 years ago
no, If malek and moebious kept in that room that would be stupid, they would be doomed because Raziel had the Reaver and with it he could even defeat Malek,however strong he was.
Theempirerisenadfall 4 years ago
Moebius disabled the reaver with his staff.
POLE7645 4 years ago
The the blood reaver though. Then he had to flee.
Orumon27 4 years ago
Not even Raziel's stupid enough to make a move against Malek.
FagDrag 4 years ago
He could've killed him. Only reason he didn't attack was because the Soul Reaver was disabled by Moebius.
RednessAlpha 3 years ago
Pure pwnage by Mobius. Too bad he died in Defienace he was the best villain IMO.
taz0k2 4 years ago 3
All three reavers are actually the same one. The illusion that there are many of them caused by all that time traveling crap.
One more thing: Raziel's presence didn't actually caused Malek's failure. In the Legacy's world history cannot be changed without the reaver.
DallasXIII 4 years ago
does anyone find it weird that he has 3 soul reavers(not sure if the third one disappeared or bonded with him)before this video?
doomsday12345 4 years ago
Ohhh. So /that's/ what stops him from reaching the Circle in time, and why Mortanius binds him to his armour instead of to his body.
Kaecyus 4 years ago
stupid old fart!
elhona 5 years ago
It was fun while it lasted. Well, Moebius has his moments
caglarsaher 5 years ago
just asking, this happened when vorador first attacked the circle of nine right? that's why malek failed his duty and was cursed. all this time travelling confuses me
brassmonkey84 5 years ago
Yep, that's when it happened.
BlightyLume 5 years ago