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  • @nugburner420 lol. :D

  • lol guy said you can cycle with some types of tangs. Just drop a piece of shrimp in there and you don't have to buy a fish that you don't want to keep, like a damsel.

  • This could work sure, but it's horrible to the fish even though damsels deserve it! It's easier just to chuck something into the tank to start the bacteria cycle, like a piece of raw shrimp or aquarium cycling products (that are basically the same concept just for idiots like me,) and just add the fish after the cycle. Still use cheap fish until your comfortable enough with your system to add more expensive fish.... like yellow tangs to your 10 gallon tanks hehe.....

  • didnt even listen to what he said cus its rubbish - very overstocked tank how many pyjama can ya have lol

  • ok, first of all, never add damsels as ur first fish for 2 reasons. 1 they are hella aggressive and will shred anything that comes in the tank later and 2 is that by using damsels, u are really torturing the poor thing by exposing it to high levels of nitrates. just simply use live sand and rock to cycle the tank THEN add the fishes, that way, the fish have a higher chance of surviving and it could save you some money as well.

  • ????

  • NEMO

    

  • never ever use fish to start the n-cycle....

    use live rocks and live sand, they work beautifully... I dun think this guy knows anything abt aquarium...

  • This guy is a clown. We should use him as a starter fish and see how he likes it.

  • This advise is as bad as the attitude of the brain damaged liar saying it

    Expert Village seems to be closer to a comedy channel as apposed to a advise channel.

  • this dude is a complete idiot. telling people to cycle there tank with fish is bad enough but telling them to use damsels. you do what he says and watch the problems you have when the damsel has a pop at everything you put in. numb nuts.

  • Im not an expert, but to start the cycle process with a clown fish, tang(which is highly foolish)or even a damsel is stupid, and ironic. You can easily start the cycle process with live rock or even throw in flake food, and just test the water for trace of ammonia, wait till the ammonia level is low a water change maybe performed. If u start by added a so call starting fish(damsel) you maybe torturing the fish if you have high level of ammonia.

  • dude went to the guys web site and he had photoshop pictures of reefs in peoples homes. the funny thing is, is that some of the pictures have fish in them that dont move in like 4 of the pictures. people like this give the saltwater community a bad name.

  • 3 damsels, $20

    rare fish, $500

    Finding out 3 damsels killed all my rare fish, Priceless:(

    Adding my hungry moray eel to the tank, Revenge:)

  • why would u cycle with live fish

    just put in a live rock, or water from another tank, as well as the filter media

    dont be stressing fishes for no reason even if they r cheap,

  • Marc how come these videos suck so much?

  • If there mean that means that your tank is overstocked or the fish and not being fed enough

  • or it hates the tank and needs a bigger 1

  • tang fish eat algae so how would 1 cycle your new tank with no algae? this guys stupid.

  • @iwimp1994 i don't think he said to cycle with a tang for starters it just happened that there was a tang in the tank he mostly said damsels and clownfish... correct me if im wrong. And he isent totally stupid for starters everyone has there own way of doing things but it was a bit far fetched on some parts but yah i have to agree don't listen to everything expert village says beacause most of them arent experts at all but they just try to help and notice how i MOST. but i agree dont stress.

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  • NEVER cycle your tank with live animasl ever!!!!!!!!!!!! it is very stressful on the fish. just use a raw cocktail shrimp.

  • blue/green chromis people!!!

  • black damsels r good for starting.

  • i used my black molly to cycle my saltwater tank.

  • So Basically... Your advising people to cycle a tank by chucking some fish in an hoping they survive!?? DICK!

  • no, hes advising people on good starter fish for impatient people

  • how else are you supposed to get the bacteria in the filter?

  • blue dansels are realy good sterter fish

  • expert village is shit all the videos are shit. read a book do not listen to this bull

  • and all the videos dont even tell u anything

    how can u tell someone how to setup a fish tank in 2 minutes

  • @TangPolice I would have to agree.... The best way to do it is read all you can and talk to people that have had great success.... This video is very general and not informative at all....

  • all u need to do is chuck in a bit of fresh seafod

  • noooo!!!!!!!!!!! not nemo!!!!!!!!!!

  • YOU SUCK AND HATE YOU!!!

  • Also, if you mix water from another tank, if you've ever treated the tank for any disease, the medicine will still be in the water and will obliterate corals and anemones. You want to start fresh for reef aquariums, as 90% of meds are not reef safe.

  • Wow cycling tank with tangs? What an idiot.

    Mixing cycled water with new tank to help cycling? Ok, but the cycling is also in the live rock, most of it. That will help but not really. Still need 2 weeks MINIMUM to a month preferably for any significant amount of cycling to have been completed with salt water.

    Use of damsels isn't a bad idea, but some consider it inhumane.. I personally hope all the little bastards die.

  • cycling has no set time period.

  • he never said cycle with tangs they just happened to be in the tank wit the yellow tail damselfish which he mentioned on useing

  • Actually he did say that certain tangs could be used to cycle. listen again.

  • Which is pretty stupid, as tangs are active, bossy, and VERY disease-prone fish. It's a great way to get some ick into a brand new tank.... God I hate tangs. I work at an aquarium store in California, and the fish that always screw up our sales tanks ( in terms of introducing a witch's brew of nasty protozoans and external parasites) are always tangs. Every time. Use a school of medium to large chromis to cycle. They aren't quite as durable as their damsel cousins, but at least they're not evil.

  • well i wasn't defending or promoting what he said, only that he did say it.

    Personally I would rather not spend the money on a fish that is likely to die anyway during initial cycling. I cycle my tanks by using commercial grade ammonia hydroxide. (ammonia in water)

    You need an ammonia source right? why not ammonia?

    Just be sure it has no dyes, surfectants, fragrance, etc.

    Also, shake the bottle, if it gets suds, look elsewhere.

    I used 10% ammonia, 1.5 tbsp in a 150g tank = 4ppm

  • I volunteer at the Monterey Bay Aquarium on weekends as a laboratory aquarist and a guide since 2002. We use ammonia hyrdoxide in the holding tanks that don't contain any fish in order to prevent the nitrifying bacteria colonies in the sand filters from crashing. However, in my 13 years of experience with fishkeeping- both fresh and salt- I haven't lost a single fish in the cycling period. I reccomend fish for most of my clients unless it's a huge system; then use some ammonia hydroxide.

  • I live in Los Angeles, can I use ocean water for my aquarium?

  • better you don't, ocean water near big cities may be very polluted, expecially if you want keep corals.

  • I can't believe he said you can cycle with Tang fish... LOL... Expert Village is not so Expert I would not shop there ever!!!!

  • i cant beleive you cant listen ! he was talking about the damsels

  • I quote - "certain tang fish can as well." I hope he isnt referring to the blue tangs.

  • Yeah cause that's what I heard Certain Tang Fish, Let alone a ClownFish Not very Smart. But yet again it's the nature of the business. They send you home with fish to cycle then after they die and you bring them back O well lets test your water O you have High Ammonia and Nitrates Sorry no new fish or Refund. They get one weak ones that don't know any better all the time.

  • u get a clean water that u can bye somewhere and mix ur salt in to about a 28

  • so if i buy live sand crushed coral and live rock it will do the cycle for me and how do i get saltwater i live in north georiga

  • i cycled my tank by mixing water needed for tank and i bought a sgt major...if u want a fishless cycle. go with saltwater and liferock...i also a video on my profile w/ my fish eating!

  • my fish died @#$%&*

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  • I use the fishless method for Fresh Water tanks. If I ever start a salt water tank there is no way I'm spending money of fish for them to just die. It's a waste. And who would want to put adorable salt water fish in a tank that they know they're gonna die? It's inhumane. I know some people do it without knowing, but that's different.

    Please don't listen to these people, if your fish do survive, their life will have been shortened and their immune system damaged. D:

  • most of the time, the nitrogen cycle goes through so fast, the fish doesn't have time to die. If the fish does die, it's just like the cocktail shrimp method of starting an aquarium. But grow a pair, man up, and put that %$@# fish in that tank and cycle it!!

  • how long should i wat to put in fish and crabs

  • they are a lot smarter and pretty and just better over all ur just lazy cunt taco

  • can anyone explain to me how to start a saltwater fish tank???

    i only need a fish only tank...and my tank is a 20 gallon...24" long and 12" wide and 14" high, i would like a predator fish that can be mixed with others, and small enough and suitable for my 20 gal if possible...

    or what ever you guys would recommend...

  • well what you want to do is buy some live sand/crushed coral and some live rock. it will be pretty inexpensive for you because it's such a small tank. these will also act as a biological filter.

    next get some starter fish. some good starter fish are any type of damsel fish. they are decently aggressive, don't grow very big, and they start up the cycle so you can get other fish.

    there are many fish that you could choose from, after you get the cycle going for about a month. just research!!!

  • i got a 29 freshwater but i am going to make a new 55 gallon into saltwater which fish should i get

  • wow do u have any idea how difficult seahorse can be...i assume not!

  • Dam Half a clip for EP Dam Uses<--<<

  • for marine tank the best way to cycle is by using uncured live rock and a clean up crew or "CUC", clycling with fish is the thing of the past and there are much faster, safer, and healthier ways to do it. so if your interested in better ways to cycle a tank just search the internet for "fishless cycling" and same applies for both marine and fresh water.

  • From what Ive seen you SHOULD NOT TRUST any of the advice videos Expert Village do. All their advice is dubious at best it seems most of the so-called experts really dont know what there talking about at all. Its the same for their guinea pig videos I was looking at they advised to put Vitamin C into the pigs water and advised you can happily house a guinea pig a rabbit together safely which is a risk and a big no no.

  • (Part 1) One of the easiest methods is a fishless cycle. Just drop a few pinches of flake in the tank and let the bacteria grow, set the heater to 28-30 Degrees so the bacteria grows at optimum rate but DONT FORGET to set it back to required temp a few days before you add the fish set the filter running and then it just a matter of waiting a few weeks,

  • (Part 2)your tank should start to fog slightly and then the fog will dissipate, thats when your ready to add fish. You can speed up the cycle by adding rocks, gravel, water or filter media from already established aquariums but make sure it has no diseases. Make sure whatever you transfer from tanks is always kept in water around or a close to the temperature it was in the tank otherwise the bacteria on the items will reduce or die out completely and youve wasted you time

  • This is clearly not the right way to start cycle a fish tank and they should be reported the only accepted method of starting a tank cycle with live fish is by using feeder fish nothing else as they are just collateral, you should certainly not put in a damsel. I personally would not put anything fish in to start a cycle.

  • lol on the 2nd day i got my tank i putted in 5 tiger barbs, 2 paradise fish and 1 betta and 2 pleco and only one tigerbarb die and the better got stuck in a ship and died.

    I didn't even cycle my tank and all my fish survive i guess i got lucky or what?

    I was scare at first cuz the test showed really bad results but then after like 3 week my tank started to stabilize.

  • thats so so so so not at all right tangs should never be added when the tank is in cycleing are you fkn crazy :o

  • i thought he was pointing at the blue tang but he was pointing at a yellow tail damsel..Look kinda like tang...just look carefully next time....

  • what is a nitrogen cycle o_o sorry i dont know much but i want to have a salt water fish tank

  • I don't generally recommend doing this. Usually, I buy live rock or have somebody donate some of their gravel or decoration, even an old filter. What I did with my 20g was get an old cycled filter off a friend and a couple of live rocks and monitored the levels. It was cycled in just over a week.(Which is a decent time.) My cichlid lived out his long life here, and now there's a new family in there.

  • yea crazyants is rights you dont need fish all the time to cycle. thats the worst way to do it. use a dead shrimp or live rock. i guarantee 99 percent of the time the fish never survives

  • My fish did, twice.

  • wat a retard thats lyk a 20g tank with 2 types of clownfish, about 5 blue hippo tangs and about 15 more fish all those will die these people r morons

  • im pretty sure that water is recirculated among other tanks. and a refugium

  • it's a fish store. that tank is probably hooked up to several other tanks which all run off a huge sump or something in a back room.

    It may look like a 20 or 30 gallon aquarium but in actuality there is probably over 500 gallons of water in that system.

  • y woul u cycle ur tank with a dead shrimp, wouldnt that put lyk all kinds of diseases in ur tank?

  • No. The shrimp is dead already and is cleaned before you buy it (if you're buying it from a deli). You're letting it rot in the tank to jump start ammonia which then converts to Nitrites and then into Nitrates. It is alot better then the Damsels this guy is talking about, not to mention ALOT easier to get out of the tank.

  • And cheaper. ^^ Plus you get to eat shrimp that night. >:D

  • what a fag. i wonder how he would like it if i injected him with ammonia and took all his oxogen cause thats what your doing when you cycle a tank with a fish.

  • omg u idiot! i listened to this guy and my damsel dieD! i payed 4 dollars for that!!!! w/e im cycling with livr rock this time

  • your lucky its only a 4 dollar fish! thats really, really cheap for a marine fish

  • ya i agree, you shouldnt cycle a tank with a fish.

  • please people don't listen to this guy... you will be killing fish for no reason.. all you have to do to start the nitrogen cycle is put a previously killed shrimp into the tank. Also this "expertvillage" thing shouldn't be keeping that many fish in such a small volume, to keep that many tangs alone you would need a tank of several hundred gallons! I feel sorry for people like this, and the fish they keep.

  • it's at a store.. pretty obviously.

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