James, I have sent some of my students to Youtube to wtch your videos as a good prospective on advancement beyond the writen versions of techniques. I have them look at this one last because I like to bait them into saying you have a lack o speed. When you explain yourself and their light comes on, it is gratto see their focus return to controling an opponent rather than how fast they can execute a technique. I sill use the various timing counts, 3 count, 5 count, 8 count and 10 count.
No for a number of reasons. 1) The formula you're misquoting is Mass x ACCELERATION which is a change in speed, not speed itself. 2) That's Newtonian physics at it's most basic which ignores more advanced concepts necessary in applying it to human motion such as fluid dynamics. 3) regarding anatomy and physiology as speed increases stability decreases. 4) Focusing too much on generating force and neglecting proper transfer of force which requires less speed for stability of target + weapon.
Speed has more to do with perception through correct angles and timing than ability in a lot of cases, that being said we should strive to increase the speed of our hits as long as it does not negate proper body alignment and correct body position. The "pause point" as you said is not an issue of speed but an issue of timing, something Mr. Parker taught and wrote about. Knowing when to hit in quick succession and knowing at what point to pause is in effect what it is to understand timing.
I disagree and here's why. The pause point is an issue of speed as timing is the proper use of speed. Moving too fast, as many Kenpoists do, negates any concept of timing. Same as moving too slow but Kenpoists generally don't have that issue. Right speed for the right moment = timing, and the right speed is not always full speed.
Use the concept of colliding forces. You hit the target at the best moment to maximize the force of impact. If you move too fast you meet the target before it's maximum acceleration which lessens the force delivered. If you move too slow you either hit the target after it has slowed down or you could even miss completely. Proper use of speed is the issue when it comes to applying timing. It's the difference between understanding and doing.
Knowing when to hit in quick succession and knowing at what point to pause(and I should have said for how long) is in effect what it is to understand timing. I think that we have a similar concept on these ideas. Timing can be seen like a bass line in a song, if rushed or played too slow the song sounds wrong but that is referring to the time between the notes and not the speed it takes to preform the note. In the example you used of Borrowed Force (colliding forces) --
If you take too long performing the notes in music (easier with wind and some string instruments) you don't have the proper gaps necessary to hit your timing. Same if you make the notes too short and sharp. Speed is still and always a factor in timing. It's a difference in knowing when versus the application of what you know which requires the proper speed to hit the right moment. There is no physical timing without regulation of speed in anything. Fighting, machinery, music, physics, anything.
when you choose to hit the opponent there is no reason to throw the punch out sooner but slower to meet it's target at the correct time. This will only allow the opponent more time to react. You would hold that strike in it's chamber, waiting for the precise time to execute your strike as fast as you could without violating the principles of motion to do so.
As far as the difference between understanding and doing, what is kenpo but
I think we're saying the same thing a different way. When talking about speed, I'm talking about the speed between moves or the gap between beats. In other words how fast the second punch comes out after the first. Not how fast the hand is moving for either punch. I'm talking about moves being done in so fast succession that the proper windows of opportunity aren't being used. I'm not talking about throwing slower punches, which would also mean weaker punches and be counterproductive.
I think this was two people arguing over the same point, just using different vernacular. And i can totally agree that "slap kenpo" gives all good practitioners a bad name. I use the term speed as the time it takes for one strike to execute, and the term timing as the placement of those strike at the right moment.
By the way Mr. Hawkins where are you located and what is your Kenpo background?
My name is Colin Duffy, Son of Brian Duffy, and I currently hold a first brown in the A.K.F..
I'm in the Baltimore, MD area. I've been around so to speak regarding Kenpo. I'm a Kenpo mutt if you will. Started off with James Frederick of the AKKS, then with Bruce Smith of the AKKI, then Mike Lambert of the LTKKA, Max Bychkov of Parker/Planas lineage...the list goes on and on. I try to learn from every "line" I can since each one seems to focus on different aspects of the art.
"the analytical study of motion as it relates to combat" E.P.. The separation that Ed Parker's American Kenpo has to other arts is its structure being set up for a complete understanding(both physical and mental) of motion. We have structured our material like a school system, with dictionary, thesauruses, appendixes, alphabet of motion, etc... There is a difference between understanding and doing, but neither element on it's own is enough.
Nothing wrong with that at all. We have to be able to do the art to defend ourselves and have to be able to explain it in order to pass it on to future generations. Debates are just teaching/explaining practice :)
I am no kenpo artist but I must say that topic would apply to many arts out there. You have to hit them fast which create power and then pause for a sec to reconize what happening to their posture so you can use the right techiniques in a combination. Good Job.
From a fellow kenpo guy, great video but I have a slight problem with it. this is THE DAMN BIRDS WERE ANNOYING AS HELL. In the future, please move them further away from the camera or taking them into the house
Once again, grat video and Im looking forward to watching the rest of them
Very nice. I agree with everything you said in this video. I can see that you can move fast if you so desire. By the way, we call our form of Kenpo "The lazy man's art" because after you hit him 29 times you are going to need to sit on him and rest. lol
Excellent vids. Thanks for contributing, your style seems to master exactly what you want it to. It's closer to the "real thing" then I have ever practiced in the dojo.
My training partner is always a little more sore then normal in the days after I have been watching your clips : )
If we bring category completion into the mix (which is a learning tool and NOT something I'd advocate being concerned with in a real situation) we'd have to bring in the other versions of Five swords as well. Hmmmm, mighht have to add that to the list of future topics.
i like the idea of being lazy in a fight which you said. and i also like the idea of making contact with the opponents arm or 'weapon' and keeping on to it.
Brother I can't hear most of what your saying in the beginning. CHeck you sound before posting, I know you can do better. Your movements are outstanding and that of a master in the art.
Thanks. The wind is killing the mic on my camcorder LOL Need to come up with a way to cover it from the wind without killing the sound. We noticed that well after the fact (like after recording for a few hours) but posted it anyway. Would have been nice to remember we had that problem the last time..but we're slow :) Looking forward to more of your vids too.
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FranklinGray 1 year ago
your awesome i have been watching you videos for 4hours :)
bustanut97 1 year ago
Preaching to the choir, but it's nice to see someone else with this take on Kenpo.
rdouglas1965 2 years ago
James, I have sent some of my students to Youtube to wtch your videos as a good prospective on advancement beyond the writen versions of techniques. I have them look at this one last because I like to bait them into saying you have a lack o speed. When you explain yourself and their light comes on, it is gratto see their focus return to controling an opponent rather than how fast they can execute a technique. I sill use the various timing counts, 3 count, 5 count, 8 count and 10 count.
tcollins247 2 years ago
hmmmmmmm.... anyone thinking mass times speed equals force????
BryeCooper 2 years ago
No for a number of reasons. 1) The formula you're misquoting is Mass x ACCELERATION which is a change in speed, not speed itself. 2) That's Newtonian physics at it's most basic which ignores more advanced concepts necessary in applying it to human motion such as fluid dynamics. 3) regarding anatomy and physiology as speed increases stability decreases. 4) Focusing too much on generating force and neglecting proper transfer of force which requires less speed for stability of target + weapon.
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
Speed has more to do with perception through correct angles and timing than ability in a lot of cases, that being said we should strive to increase the speed of our hits as long as it does not negate proper body alignment and correct body position. The "pause point" as you said is not an issue of speed but an issue of timing, something Mr. Parker taught and wrote about. Knowing when to hit in quick succession and knowing at what point to pause is in effect what it is to understand timing.
KENP0sifu 2 years ago
I disagree and here's why. The pause point is an issue of speed as timing is the proper use of speed. Moving too fast, as many Kenpoists do, negates any concept of timing. Same as moving too slow but Kenpoists generally don't have that issue. Right speed for the right moment = timing, and the right speed is not always full speed.
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
Use the concept of colliding forces. You hit the target at the best moment to maximize the force of impact. If you move too fast you meet the target before it's maximum acceleration which lessens the force delivered. If you move too slow you either hit the target after it has slowed down or you could even miss completely. Proper use of speed is the issue when it comes to applying timing. It's the difference between understanding and doing.
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
Knowing when to hit in quick succession and knowing at what point to pause(and I should have said for how long) is in effect what it is to understand timing. I think that we have a similar concept on these ideas. Timing can be seen like a bass line in a song, if rushed or played too slow the song sounds wrong but that is referring to the time between the notes and not the speed it takes to preform the note. In the example you used of Borrowed Force (colliding forces) --
KENP0sifu 2 years ago
If you take too long performing the notes in music (easier with wind and some string instruments) you don't have the proper gaps necessary to hit your timing. Same if you make the notes too short and sharp. Speed is still and always a factor in timing. It's a difference in knowing when versus the application of what you know which requires the proper speed to hit the right moment. There is no physical timing without regulation of speed in anything. Fighting, machinery, music, physics, anything.
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
when you choose to hit the opponent there is no reason to throw the punch out sooner but slower to meet it's target at the correct time. This will only allow the opponent more time to react. You would hold that strike in it's chamber, waiting for the precise time to execute your strike as fast as you could without violating the principles of motion to do so.
As far as the difference between understanding and doing, what is kenpo but
KENP0sifu 2 years ago
I think we're saying the same thing a different way. When talking about speed, I'm talking about the speed between moves or the gap between beats. In other words how fast the second punch comes out after the first. Not how fast the hand is moving for either punch. I'm talking about moves being done in so fast succession that the proper windows of opportunity aren't being used. I'm not talking about throwing slower punches, which would also mean weaker punches and be counterproductive.
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
I think this was two people arguing over the same point, just using different vernacular. And i can totally agree that "slap kenpo" gives all good practitioners a bad name. I use the term speed as the time it takes for one strike to execute, and the term timing as the placement of those strike at the right moment.
By the way Mr. Hawkins where are you located and what is your Kenpo background?
My name is Colin Duffy, Son of Brian Duffy, and I currently hold a first brown in the A.K.F..
KENP0sifu 2 years ago
I'm in the Baltimore, MD area. I've been around so to speak regarding Kenpo. I'm a Kenpo mutt if you will. Started off with James Frederick of the AKKS, then with Bruce Smith of the AKKI, then Mike Lambert of the LTKKA, Max Bychkov of Parker/Planas lineage...the list goes on and on. I try to learn from every "line" I can since each one seems to focus on different aspects of the art.
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
@kenpojujitsu3 Ha, I'm a Baltimore native myself. Used to live on Highlandtown Ave. :)
KungFuKid1015 8 months ago
"the analytical study of motion as it relates to combat" E.P.. The separation that Ed Parker's American Kenpo has to other arts is its structure being set up for a complete understanding(both physical and mental) of motion. We have structured our material like a school system, with dictionary, thesauruses, appendixes, alphabet of motion, etc... There is a difference between understanding and doing, but neither element on it's own is enough.
KENP0sifu 2 years ago
Agreed.
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
A Kenpo Black must be able to debate these topics at length, then walk out on the mat and practice what he preaches.
Ps. Sorry that this took four post boxes and 15 hours to post :(
KENP0sifu 2 years ago
Nothing wrong with that at all. We have to be able to do the art to defend ourselves and have to be able to explain it in order to pass it on to future generations. Debates are just teaching/explaining practice :)
kenpojujitsu3 2 years ago
Hey...your vids rock.just this one a bit hard to hear with wind blowing.
kenpokarateninja 2 years ago
I am no kenpo artist but I must say that topic would apply to many arts out there. You have to hit them fast which create power and then pause for a sec to reconize what happening to their posture so you can use the right techiniques in a combination. Good Job.
RDraGon2179 2 years ago
Excellent videos! how long have you been training? who did you study under?
wmaakenpo 3 years ago
You teaching style is excellent. You must be exceptionally knowledgeable in Kenpo. Keep up the good work!
Gojuguy 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. Salute.
kenpojujitsu3 3 years ago
From a fellow kenpo guy, great video but I have a slight problem with it. this is THE DAMN BIRDS WERE ANNOYING AS HELL. In the future, please move them further away from the camera or taking them into the house
Once again, grat video and Im looking forward to watching the rest of them
ShastaHawk 3 years ago
Very nice. I agree with everything you said in this video. I can see that you can move fast if you so desire. By the way, we call our form of Kenpo "The lazy man's art" because after you hit him 29 times you are going to need to sit on him and rest. lol
akumaryukenpo 3 years ago
LOL!!!!
kenpojujitsu3 3 years ago
Excellent vids. Thanks for contributing, your style seems to master exactly what you want it to. It's closer to the "real thing" then I have ever practiced in the dojo.
My training partner is always a little more sore then normal in the days after I have been watching your clips : )
AgainstM3 3 years ago
These are still the best I've seen. Are they anywhere else where I could download them?
rodsmith1042 3 years ago
Thanks for the compliment. So far this is the only place I've put them, but I'm open to suggestions.
kenpojujitsu3 3 years ago
If we bring category completion into the mix (which is a learning tool and NOT something I'd advocate being concerned with in a real situation) we'd have to bring in the other versions of Five swords as well. Hmmmm, mighht have to add that to the list of future topics.
kenpojujitsu3 3 years ago
i like the idea of being lazy in a fight which you said. and i also like the idea of making contact with the opponents arm or 'weapon' and keeping on to it.
maxgunn555 3 years ago
Brother I can't hear most of what your saying in the beginning. CHeck you sound before posting, I know you can do better. Your movements are outstanding and that of a master in the art.
JMHamilton1 3 years ago
Thanks. The wind is killing the mic on my camcorder LOL Need to come up with a way to cover it from the wind without killing the sound. We noticed that well after the fact (like after recording for a few hours) but posted it anyway. Would have been nice to remember we had that problem the last time..but we're slow :) Looking forward to more of your vids too.
kenpojujitsu3 3 years ago