Biotechnology Expert; Norman Borlaug, Nobel Laureate, USA

[TheMalar]

My Hero. I personally don't know a better candidate for the Nobel Peace Prise. And we give them to terrorists like Arafat or incompetent like Wałęsa or Obama. We need more heroes like Dr. Norman Borlaug. Heroes from the XX-XXI century, that won not by sword or words, but through science, knowledge and action.

[hayden50]

@TheMalar AMEN

[TheMalar]

The Greatest hero of biotechnology, of the Third World and the whole humanity. Long live the memory of Dr. Borlaug- the man who made the modern world possible.

[myndy86]

@DaMasterNinja Anyone who read the title of this video should dislike it. Norman Borlaug was NOT a biotechnology expert, he never created any GMO ever! Anything Norman Borlaug said about GM or organic was his UNINFORMED OPINION! The title of the video is false and it is pure propaganda to try to make people believe Norman Borlaug used GM.

[TheThordir]

Because solving world hunger is less important than sticking it to the man! Let Monsanto keep their evil frankenfood, I'm eating steak tonight!

/damned stupid hippies



[DaMasterNinja]

How could someone rate this video down? Do you like people starving? I bet none of you could demonstrate the character Norman Borlaug did, or change the world like he is still doing today...

[paolung]

@DaMasterNinja The Greenpeace propaganda "organic is the only solution!" folks are blind to the real contributions to the world that this man made.

[TheThordir]

@paolung

More irrational superstition from the nutty hippies. These people are the left wing version of "Won't anyone think of the children!!!".

Why are we in "The West" so in thrall to these people? Can't they be forced to just live and let live rather than force their dogma down everyone else's throats?

[sonz4lif]

he's my great great uncle :) were proud of the work he has done for us. sadly he pasted away not to long ago :(

[dexterdexter747]

I wish I could shake his hand.

[richleebruce]

In 1998 about 60% of the world's population lived in low income countries according to the World Bank, eleven years later, 2009, that was reduced to about 12 and 1/2% almost a four fifths reduction in ten years.

So Borlaug feed them and now they are becoming rich. By substituting communication for transportation and cyberspace for floor space we can have a rich, rewarding, green, ecology friendly, life for all including Borlaug's billions.

[fastlane59]

I had the great honor to met him and since became my firnd and heroe

[ashevillecat]

The bottom line is this: improvements in yield mean improvements in food alone. These so-called "improvements" came almost entirely at the expense of associated yields, such as biomass (e.g. wheat straw used for roofing or bedding), medicinal and vitamin-rich edible weeds, and forages for livestock integrated with crop production. So the farmer produced more food, but became dependent on markets for not only agricultural inputs, but medicines and other materials they once produced.

[Tommy9834]

Norman Borlaug is one of the people who actually deserve his Nobel Peace Prize for humanitarian, unlike Obama, Al Gore, or Teresa, who didn't do jack shit other then just get the public to think they did anything.

[meowbrunei]

RIP Dr Borlaug , we need more people like you

[drunkenlilTIFFY1990]

it says Monsanto in the end.

[edwardmilla]

Funny, I can't really see any farmers in this video. I guess biotechnology is so efficient that we don't need farmers anymore, so now we can guarantee there will always be enough sweat shop workers and call centre operators. Hurrah!

[ashevillecat]

@edwardmilla Yep; Borlaug saved billions so we can have the cheap labor force that makes our clothes, shoes, and consumer junk. Only large farms profited from his so-called Green Revolution, while the rest were forced off the land, into slums or, as in North America, to risk a dangerous desert crossing to find work in the US. Personally, I'd rather face hunger than wage slavery

[dfgl1029]

Kudos to you Borlaug, I think I own you a meal.

[jehophus]

Dr. Borlaug died a short time after Michael Jackson. All the press he got (that I saw) was an AP blurb and a mention from fmr. Pres. Clinton on Letterman. Here is a man who actually helped change the world and save countless lives. EVERYONE should know his name.

[dpalmacci]

I am eating bacon right now Veganath

[veganath]

The elephant in the room of our food production system is the rearing of animals for human consumption, feed on the high yield grains from the good Doctor (RIP).

Even if we don't care for the welfare of animals, we should care that food we grow finds it's way DIRECTLY for human consumption.

We don't need to curb human population, this planet could potentially feed 15 billion humans, but not while we give priority to feeding billions of non-human animals. Go Veg & realize real freedom from famine

[AncelDeLambert]

Many thanks to this great man.

[WhyNotIfSo]

Thank you sir.

[tehinfidel]

It is not contradictory to respect Dr. Borlaug for saving the lives of more people than anyone who has ever lived, and yet be critical of genetic patenting and extortion at the same time. It has potential, as evidenced by crop yields and disease resistance, and we should examine how to do it safely, with a fact-based examination of keeping unmodified seed stores, crop proportions, etc. Difficult, but a goal worth reaching.

It's not a black-or-white issue, and facile "reasoning" serves no one.

[ugoslow]

Certain parts, however, are black and white. For example, pretty much every staple crop we consume today, even the so-called "unmodified" ones, have been genetically modified through human selection for the last 10,000 years. This can be evidenced by the poor performance of our domesticated crops in their original habitat - most do not propagate at all. The GM wheat that Dr. Borlaug introduced to Mexico, saving millions, was simply a cross of Mexican wheat with a shorter variety found in Japan.

[wasatchwindows]

@tehinfidel You have a valid argument concerning patents, but i would say this:

without the profit large firms can get from patents on GE foods, they could never raise the money that it takes to develop such foods. It takes hundreds of millions of dollars to develop these miracle plants, and without a return on their investment, no one will put up the huge amount of cash necessary for all the R&D needed.

[tehinfidel]

@wasatchwindows Yes, and let it be said that they obviously and genuinely deserve the profit for their heavy R&D.

This is, however, a far cry from "donating" the crops to countries experiencing famine, and then suing farmers 20 years down the road when their grain makes it through the ecosystem and crossbreeds with the native crops.

Not sure what the solution is for that; perhaps better genetic markers that can identify food relief grain and discern it from licensed, purchased grain?

[wasatchwindows]

@tehinfidel i haven't heard of the case you are talking about. Youtube doesn't let you post links on here, but can u direct me to where i can read about it?

[bigsmatchy]

RIP borlaug. The greatest humanitarian in the history of mankind!

[Retrieverman1]

1 billion people saved.

And yet how many people in his own country know his name?

RIP Mr. Borlaug.

[Groundkisser]

You're looking at the Man who Fed the World here.

Rest in Peace, Dr. Norman Borlaug.  God bless you and keep you always.

[rjh419]

R.I.P. The greatest man of his generation.

[sonny19xx]

This man should rank as the greatest man ever born.. 1 billion human lives saved thats some record. May God bless him .  THANKS Sidewinder77

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Again, I didn't say I agreed with Monsanto's ethics or the decision to say that an organism can be patented. People will find a way to abuse anything of value.

If Monsanto were to completely collapse tomorrow, would GMO's go away? Would the suddently become okay?

[EmpiricalMiracle]

In fact, I liked these videos... they weren't anti-GMO as much as they were anti-intellectual property right for GMO's. The comparison to med tech was apt. Patents on drugs have adverse affects on struggling nations, but they're not vilifying the drugs; they're vilifying the drug companies. Why? Because the drugs still have value. When Max said to ignore IP laws, that didn't mean to not plant GMO's. It meant, plant 'em because there's value and just say screw Monsanto.

[ejbh3160]

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[ejbh3160]

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[OrlandoWa]

world hunger is cause of corporations so how would a biotechnology corporation solve it . its just another form to accumulate wealth creating more world hunger just what i think.

[dinkolino2]

and Kissinger is also a peace Nobel laureate. So much for the Nobel prize

[UNBELEAVE]

First of all: I defy you to explain what you don't know for sure. .. Second. .. If gene manipulation is (as you said, "Isn't an exact science"), why then would you pretend to know so much about it?

[ejbh3160]

my point is that NOBODY knows that much about it! But I AM informed enough to understand the dangers of tampering with this sort of thing because humans have done 'similar' things in the past... DDT, agent orange etc

And while we DONT know we shouldn't be letting unknowns loose into the environment, that could contaminate life itself!

Mankind LEARNS by making mistakes sadly!

We've got this huge brain and most people don't use it for good... they use it for GREED or just don't use it at all!

[BlinkPunk5]

How many people have you fed?

[remileveu]

Your problem is not with these ppl that are trying to develop these foods or are harmfull, you are cause GREED is the core problem you see.. why not focus your huge brain on this issue instead of getting in the way of progress

[ejbh3160]

I have no problem with developing foods natures way.. i.e. selectively choosing seeds & plants for their attributes crossing them with other 'varieties' to come up with F1 or F2 hybrids. What I have problems with is creating frankenfoods that REQUIRE the farmer to poison their own land with stuff like 'roundup' when the long term effects ARE well known... & when it comes to gene splicing I am totally against it because its NOT an exact science & the spliced gene migrates & does so in ALL cases!

[ejbh3160]

I DO have problems with farming in Asia & Africa being systematically destroyed for greed especially when the local organic 'sustainable' model does BETTER in many cases.

Mankind makes bigger & bigger mistakes to gain that 'progress' you speak of & this 'mistake' could be fatal to all life as we know it.

Migrating genes could have totally unforseen effects on the substance itself, on the person eating it & change over time due to the way our bodies utilise matter that we eat & then excrete it

[rdchase1]

GMO foods are all very bad. they require pesticides to survive that's why farmers become dependent on the multinational corporations and there expensive seed. not to mention the pesticides ravage the land. they destroy biodiversity by crossbreeding with other native species. anyone who supports this shit doesn't know what they are talking about. sure it may save some lives now but what about in twenty years when the nutritional value of the soil is non existent and all the water is poisoned.

[Taheki]

The WHOLE POINT of GM crops is that they are more resistant to pests and diseases. You have to use LESS chemicals to produce them and generate higher yields. Idiot.

[ejbh3160]

not so...

The 'Roundup ready' seeds mean that you HAVE to use chemicals (roundup) over and over forever! The chemicals in roundup are toxic to living beings... (now I wonder what Humans are?)... and are accumulative (i.e. they BUILD UP in the soil)

These corporations just want to make billions out of something that can be done for FREE with permaculture & organic farming methods!

This is just about corporate control of all seeds & foods on this planet! Search CODEX ALIMENTARIUS & get informed!

[ejbh3160]

Taheki..define "higher yeilds"?

If I have half a dozen organic non-GM seeds I can grow an INFINITE amount of food for the rest of eternity (they are FERTILE!)

If I have half a dozen Monsanto seeds I can grow half a dozen plants this year but only if my soil is poisoned with their chemicals too.

A 17 year kid old who has NO idea how to farm food & you have the audacity to call ME "idiot"?

I was born on a farm & I've been growing food organically all my life!

GM is an abomination! Period!

[EmpiricalMiracle]

So, say Monsanto is abusing the technology- that still doesn't make the technology itself bad. People use the internet to commit crimes. People kill people with automobiles.

[ejbh3160]

The 'Precautionary Principle' SHOULD be applied to ALL GMOs IMO.

GMO's should NEVER be allowed out into the 'natural' environment! Period!

The risks to messing up the DNA of others is far too high.

This is messing with the foundations of life itself. Do you honestly think mankind has the WISDOM not to f**k it up yet again???

We always learn AFTER our mistakes! Yet this mistake could easily be the biggest of them all!

We simply don't need this chemical approach to our food production.

No to GMOs!

[EmpiricalMiracle]

I guess I don't see how this is "messing with the foundations of life itself" any more than selective breeding is messing with nature's ability to natural select random mutation. But I'm open to what you have to say.

Take BT corn- organic farmers have been putting BT proteins on corn for years. What makes BT corn unsafe?

[ejbh3160]

Ok well firstly GMO is nothing like selective breeding, because they take chromosomes from one species & attach it to another. This would NEVER happen in nature because pigs don't have sex with plants (or whatever)

Whatsmore it has been shown over & again that these spliced chromosomes will "migrate" around the DNA thus changing the end 'effect' & can even JUMP to another species that eats it!

Its just NOT UNDERSTOOD yet because we haven't made the 'big mistake' yet.. then we'll learn too late!

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Did you in the same post say that nature can't take a chromosome from one organism and put it in another and then say that they can jump from one species to another?

[ejbh3160]

Oh come on... try to understand at least.

The chromasome that jumps from species to species is the one that has been 'spliced' from a GMO plant.. in other words it isn't FIXED in place... it can migrate up & down the DNA strand (which alters its effect) & it can jump species.

I said nature doesn't mix up chromasomes as in pigs don't breed with corn or whatever.. that still holds true. Animals don't mix with plants in 'nature'... its only the spliced ones that do the 'jumping'.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Plus, can we get our genetics right at least? Chromosomes contain genes and are made up of DNA. Chromosomes can't move up and down the DNA, since they are made up of DNA.

[ejbh3160]

indeed I meant the spliced gene which is made up of nucleotides... just had a blank for a while... it happens you know, especially when I have half a dozen conversations going on at once.

So do you understand NOW?? Or are you just going to argue ad infinitum how wonderful these frankensteinfoods are?

Normally I'd say do whatever you like, but when it risks contaminating the rest of life on the planet I prefer to err on the side of caution.

We still do better farming organically to this day!

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Look, Im not saying technology isnt without its consequences. And I'm not saying all GMO's are good. Im saying that technology itself shouldnt be vilified with blanket statements like all GMOs are an abomination. We can trade examples of good and bad GMOs all day, but, like it or not, GMOs are here to stay and Id rather see responsible, ethical use.

[ejbh3160]

I'd rather not see ANY use until its understood better... preferably by having hermetically sealed environments where the GMOs can't escape from.. then we can make mistakes till the cows come home.. we'll learn all about it 'safely'.

It may well be that once we've learnt all there is to learn we'll realise that nature got it right first time.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Right and wrong in nature are relative to the organism. And nature itself is pretty resiliant- just not humans as we know them today.

So, you're open to the idea that it *could* be beneficial and you'd like tight regulations. Cool. I can accept that, and I wouldn't have argued with you if that's what you said. That's a far way from "GM is an abomination! Period!"

[ejbh3160]

I'm much more open to the idea of using our science to ENHANCE 'organic' methods & to find 'sustainable' ways of doing things (which sadly are rarely if ever the 'corporate way'.. which is more more more but always less 'choice' & more corporate monopolies)

I'd like to see genuine compassion for starving millions.. which means preventing the CAUSES of the poverty & environmental degradation.. and again its usually that 'greed is good' metality that creates these problems in the first place.

[jkkslldsl]

how can science be used to turn organic farming into a sustainable practice? crops face the harsh environmental pressures from the weather, weeds, and insects... science advances turned to chemicals, which worked but was harmful in many ways, e.g., runoff and in ecosystems. eg, the pesticides sprayed for the E. corn borer are non-selective & wipe out everything but bt corn is highly selective and affects the targeted pest

btw look up the heavy metals and chemicals organic farmers can use

[ejbh3160]

Ironically organic farmers use BT topically as it is 'safer' to use it that way.. GM corn or cotton or potato have it embedded in the DNA to make it toxic to the flys etc.. but nature being what it is, this means the flys will develop a 'resistance' to the BT quicker because in the past the organic farmer would only apply it when needed... the GM way has it applied ALL THE TIME.

This means the GM crop will lead to a resistant fly quicker & undermine Organic farmers yet again.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

And if flies (not flys) don't ever have an advantageous mutation, it won't happen in either scenario. Sorry, but you can't use evolutionary biology to support this. GM does nothing to speed up adaptation. It may facilitate the natural selection of the non-resistent organisms, but does in no way promote the random mutation necessary in the first place.

[ejbh3160]

don't be petty with spelling typo's!

anyway... it doesn't have to 'promote' the mutation.. GMOs actually DO speed up the development of 'resistance' in nature for the reason I gave.. the 'chemical' that the flies (or whatever) don't like is present all the time & not just when there's an infestation & its applied.

Actually the 'evolutionary' argument is also perfectly valid.. and they know it.

It helps the agri-business corporations & is detrimental to the organic farmers al in one.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Saying your argument is valid doesn't make it so. How does mere presence speed up resistence or make it certain? What's the mechanism?

Nature created plants that developed toxicity which in turn helped them to avoid predation. What happened to their predators? Did they all evolve resistance? Or did they a) find another food source or b) die off.

What if corn developed a natural resistance to european corn borer- would that guarantee the corn borer would develop resistance?

[ejbh3160]

The 'mechanism' is evolution.. if every single fly that comes into contact with the corn is exposed to the BT then its more likely that the one with 'resistance' will be found sooner. If BT is only present once in a while then the resistant one is less likely to be the ONLY survivor.

Not sure why you don't understand this?

Am I wasting my time discussing this with you? Do you at least understand how the chromasome can 'jump' species now?? Does THAT not worry you enough? It should!

[EmpiricalMiracle]

... only if the fly has developed resistance in the first place. I agreed that the selective pressure is stronger, what I suggested is the shear presence of a selective pressure doesn't guarantee that resistance will be imminent. There are other adaptations that can occur. And again, please learn the difference between a gene and a chromosome. It would do a world of good for your credibility.

[ejbh3160]

It would do GMOs 'credibility' a world of 'good' if they weren't driven by the greed of corporations that want to dominate both farming & the food industries on a 'global' scale to the exclusion of everyone else & all competition.

Watch the videos I've suggested & maybe you'll see.. maybe you won't.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Again, don't blame internet for all the people who use it to commit crimes.

I'll watch the videos, although I have a suspicion I've probably already seen them. Still, I promise to reserve judgment until the end.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

Oh, and while HGT is not commonplace between kingdoms today, it did occur in our evolutionary past.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

If YT would let me post links, I'd throw one up from PNAS about present day HGT between kingdoms.

[ejbh3160]

oh come on... we won't see pigs breeding with jellyfish in the near future... or ever for that matter.

Nor will animals cross with plants.. it just won't happen.

[EmpiricalMiracle]

HGT is about gene transfer by methods other than breeding. According to the peer-reviewed scientific literature, it occurs naturally today.

[interestingperson121]

good job trying to spread misinformation, ASSHOLE. Seems like people here caught on to your bullshit soon enough.

[rdchase1]

Just because you are in the ignorant majority doesn't make you right. now does it?

[interestingperson121]

Hahahaha "ignorant majority". I like that one. More like scientifically backed majority. Get a fucking clue you sensationalist ignorant fuck.

[rdchase1]

What scientific backing are you referring to? That which is conducted by the company? The FDA?

[dinkolino2]

Scientists are some of the most ignorant people out there. I know cause I'm one. Combined with their arrogance to assume that they actually know everything is the best recipe for a catastrophe. In this case, one that wont be so simple to repair. GMO is also bad from an agricultural point of view. The only sustainable farming is organic farming. There is no perpetuum mobile. But biologists are anyway considered the stupidest of scientists, so its not a surprise that they dont get it.

[GoodJokeGoneBad]

Actually, I see GE foods as a lifeboat in the third world, not the future of our [food]. I totally support medical research involving GE plants. You might think it's all about greenies and hippies but here goes the BIG fact- without biodiversity, we'd be dead. Few GE plants will do nothing. Couple more, and you'll see the consequences. Eventually we'd have to step out of the life boat.

[ejbh3160]

Improve seed stock to make stronger healthier plants with MORE nutrition YES PLEASE.. but when you're genetically engineering crops that NEED pesticide & fertiliser & don't make fertile seeds (so Monsanto can sell you seeds & fertiliser & pesticides FOREVER) then NO BLOODY THANKS!

& in reality this hasn't solved ANY of the world's problem (its only put them off for a while) because GM crops are not sustainable! The energy in fosil fuels needed to make it happen is a timebomb waiting to go off!

[ejbh3160]

furthermore... the UN did a global survey recently and STILL TO THIS DAY small family owned farms that use traditional organic farming practices & employ more people and use less mechanical processes in the whole cycle; produce MORE food per Hectare than ANY modern farming method!!

When you take into account the fosil fuel used to grow & get your food to you using agri-business methodoligy, the enormous 'cost' to the environment is simply unacceptable!

[UNBELEAVE]

The UN! .. What about Greenpeace. Or NATO!!!

This guy just wanted people to not starve.. That's it. ...

Why would you kick a crutch out from under when you could kick some ass!

[ejbh3160]

ok so "this guy just wanted people not to starve".. firstly you're making an assumption there!

It could be this guy just wanted to make as much money as possible out of his chosen career & so he went to work for Monsanto.. who then did a nice PR job on him.

The FACT is that organic small farms that are labour intensive & use traditional methods STILL to this day (despite all the advances in science) STILL they produce more bio-mass per hectare than ANY industrialised farming method. Period!

[ejbh3160]

If he REALLY wanted to help stop people from starving he should have helped them ENHANCE the TRADITIONAL methods... not impose totally new methods that basically enslave them to the corporation... just look at the 'Round-Up ready' stuff!! Its criminal! And the toxins stay in the soil and are accumulative!

No sorry this is corporate control & greed yet again.

There is plenty of FOOD produced on this planet. If anything it's 'depressing' prices so people like Monsanto can't make a decent return!!

[ejbh3160]

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[tr1ppn]

Hey, why don't you go starve for 5 days and comeback and say this shit

[ejbh3160]

ahhh the 'wisdom' of a 20yr old Kiwi....

Why don't you stop shoving 3x as much food as you NEED into your gob & leave a bit of space for something intelligent to come out of it!

I only eat one meal a day... and I often don't even bother with THAT one thanks! I have my eating HABITS under control thank you very much. Have you? Because most 'Westerners' don't! Especially the 'youth'!

Why don't YOU do some research into the negative effects of GM technology before shooting your mouth of eh kid!?

[White1148]

wow, yes you can live on that sure but your body requires more energy than that, as well the ideal way to eat is several small meals with a total caloric intake lower than the majority of diets in north america with healthy food. Basically anything that grows and dies. Your opinion is completely discredited if anyone knows anything about this which i do. You make a valid point with eating less food but everything else is retarted

[ejbh3160]

lol.. "retarded" eh? Just coz you disagree you needn't be insulting.

Try looking up Codex Alimentarius on youtube.

A Corporate takeover of farming is NOT in mankinds interests!

So you think you know how much food I 'need' eh? I've been eating one meal a day for over 10 years & I'm fine!

Try reading 'Diet for a Small Planet'.

What people don't realise is that by MIXING foodstuffs your body takes up MORE nutrients. The more VARIETY in each meal & your diet generally the less BULK you need to eat!

[BlinkPunk5]

Wow you must look very sickly.

[ejbh3160]

I look fine thanks... lol

I am the perfect weight for my height (not obese like most of your fellow Americans) & I never get viruses that are going round either.

LOL! Why do so many people think they'll starve to death if they don't shove food into their faces non-stop?

No doubt you didn't even bother to look up "Diet for a small planet" or look into any of the alternatives to GM (like organics & Permaculture)?

Oh & I used to own an organic smallholding so I've probably fed more people than you!

[BlinkPunk5]

It's very clear that you're a hippie douche. Just go away and stop spreading your misinformation. You can eat whatever pretentious way you want to. But cut the bullshit. Norman Borlaug is in his 90's and IN THE FIELDS PLANTING food in countries of sheer poverty and hunger while you criticize from your comfortable throne made of your snooty arrogant nonsense. Stop preaching misguided bullshit. Please go away.

You reek of douchery.

[ejbh3160]

& its clear you're a Corporate greed appologist who thinks it okay to do ANYTHING.

Good old Norman. woopie doo.

Fact is that GM technology is way out of control, doing stuff we would never have allowed 10 years ago & the long term effects of messing with dna are still not understood so don't give me your effing self-righteous BS buddy.

I haven't looked at this video for well over a month.. don't tell ME to "go away"when it is YOU who started this little exchange... go away yourself.

[vwwarrior]

Oh..saying something is a FACT doesn't make it so. Cite some credible sources or shut the fuck up.

[ejbh3160]

It was the United Nations that did the survey on agri-business vs organic family owned farming methods. The organic model produced MORE bio-mass per hectare than ANY of the agri-business models! INCLUDING GM!

Now if YOU don't actually want to go and do the research thats YOUR problem.. don't expect me to cite sources because YOU can't be bothered to research!

Sht th Fk up yourself!

Monsanto should be sued for every penny it has & then every CEO & 'scientist' locked up for crimes against humanity

[dallasevers]

How about this, you go up to some starving group of people and tell them that they aren't allowed to have food because it could hurt the environment, you tell them that you will let them starve to death because you are afraid to take risks, you who in your own words eats a meal a day when they go weeks on end without food

[ejbh3160]

Ahh the wisdom of a 17 year old... you should know better kid!

How about this.. you go watch some of the vids here on YTube that explain very clearly WHY its not a good idea to be messing with DNA like this.

just type in 'Monsanto' in the search bar at the top here... & you'll find a dozen videos that show you exactly WHY its not a 'good' thing at all.

watch?v=joweZ6uM5iY

watch?v=6_-xMr59bb8

[dinkolino2]

the road to hell is pawed with good intentions

[philosoraptor88]

"this hasn't solved ANY of the world's problem (its only put them off for a while)"

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Tell that to the millions--scratch that--BILLIONS of people who would've starved without this technology. Go live among them for just a few weeks, and your opinion will change quickly.

[ejbh3160]

Many of those rue the day they ever got in debt to these corps! Like I said small organic farms STILL produce MORE FOOD per acre than any chemical/GM model.

I've lived in Africa AND Asia and I've seen the damage up close! Whether its one corp chopping down forests for Burgers or whether its another chopping down forests for soap (palm oil) either scenario is devastating for the locals & the environment.

Let's not pretend these corporations are in it for ther good of 'those people'!

They arent!

[ejbh3160]

There's a good video about Monsanto in my playlists, feel free to watch it!

The BS coming out of the GM industry is similar to the BS we used to get from Tobbacco firms & how there wasn't any 'proof' that its dangerous & yet on several occasions thats simply because they've buried the evidence or not even done the tests to check for any safety issues.

The fact is, we can modify food NATURES WAY & then it'll be perfectly safe (& un-patent-able)! We've been doing it for millenia!

[UNBELEAVE]

Well then. .. Doesn't "we can modify" and "we've been doing it for millenia!" Speak to the hypocrisy of your own?

[ejbh3160]

Not at all!! One is working WITH nature, the other is working AGAINST nature!

There are serious possible consequences for tampering with the DNA on this planet! Gene-splicing isn't an exact science & the spliced gene can migrate to anywhere on the DNA strand & has even been known to jump species!

Its too dangerous, because if something unwanted contaminates the building blocks of life on this planet.. then we're all f**ked!

BTW The Monsanto vid got taken off YouTube. Now there's a surprise eh?!

[RagNoRock5x]

I like how you keep changing the facts of small organic farms. First you say they produce more "Bio Mass", now you say food. Food != BioMass.

BioMass includes leafs, stems, flowers and other waste products of farming. Food = Food.

Most GE, including all plant food known to mankind now adays, is breed/designed to produce more food per land use and per plant. And yes all plant food today has been GE'ed for millenia to increase production. Whats being done in labs now is no different

[ejbh3160]

actually its BOTH! Biomass & food. I say biomass, because the stuff which isn't eaten is 'composted' (so they don't need chemical fertilizers) In the case of organic farming biomass=food next year.

Actually most GMOs are not just about more food. Research it!

What's being done in labs is to combine things that would NEVER combine in nature!!

The dangers are clear & understood but they push ahead regardless!!

And as I've already explained the spliced gene is KNOWN to migrate or jump species even!

[lizolivit]

Google Monsanto. Below their own web site and the Wiki on them you'll see tons of results which are telling of who they REALLY are. This is the same company who was responsible for Agent Orange. Their ads use your emotions and just a little smidge of truth to fool people into believing their products are safe. Don't be sheeple.

[Italodisco80]

ppl have no clue how much actually earth can produce food... to trillions..... and its not BS

[jwhyte67]

Yes but thanks to this guys research we can use less land for agriculture and preserve nature.

[jayboy1130]

Norman Borlaug is the greatest man that ever lived. that man has saved millions of peoples lives

[tasha122277]

you are clueless and buying into corporate lies

[philosoraptor88]

Yeah, you know that big corporation called the Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee, which credited him with saving a billion lives... in 1970. If you don't agree with GM, fine, but don't insult that man. He's the closest thing to a saint this world will ever see.

[UNBELEAVE]

I couldn't agree with you more.

[qvqvqv23]

Monsanto has time and time again been exposed for crimes. "The World According to Monsanto" has totally debunked many of the lies. It's a great start. GMO crops in France are being burned, and everywhere people are angry. Monsanto is a company that will likely end up as part of congressional hearings. Seriously, the outrage in India is enough to tip the scales. Go ahead and try you idiots. Your PR attempts have failed.

And I hope that old geezer in the video above CROAKS SOON!

[gamp0001]

You fucking arrogant piece of shit. Norman Borlaug is personally responsible for saving the lives of 100s of millions of people from starvation. He was recognized by a tiny little international conglomerate of global scientists called the Nobel Prize Committee for that, and you wish him dead. I wish that self-loathing, anti-progress morons like yourself would just go ahead and quietly kill yourselves and leave us in peace!

[amazingRec]

people will hate me for saying this but...do you think they should have lived? I know it's hard to die but if I were to starve I would know death is coming for a reason.We all know that overdosing on medicine is bad for you and you could die.so is eating too much junk food,and even eating too much vegetables.Don't you think the world having too much humans will be bad for it too!The reason we can only feed so many people in the world with organic food is because that's how the earth stays alive.

[gamp0001]

I don't hate you because you have said this. I am glad that you have openly admitted the mentality of the vast majority of enviro-activists. You are willing to sacrifice human lives in your efforts to "protect the environment." Your statement is Malthusian in the extreme, and demonstrates the stark, raving, self-loathing lunacy of the environmentalist movement. Thank you for being so open with it.

[amazingRec]

I think that if people would be so fat! maybe we can help people live, I don't have a problem with people living but I do think that God gave us these natural ways of living for a reason, besides it may be killing a few thousand maybe even a million people, but would you rather kill the entire human race and any other animal just because people are starving now?

When we live unnaturally the environment will react badly (Katrina)

[andrith]

So you think it´s neccecary for millons of people todie for the better of the earth huh? Then go ahead, be first in line you self centered shit

[philosoraptor88]

I love the environment as much as anyone, but I don't want to starve to death, and I don't want to ask anyone to starve to death for me. What you are saying is the latter. Instead of condemning these processes, which feed billions (with a B, yes), work on birth control and education around it. Oh, and get on the Catholic church, too.

[GoodJokeGoneBad]

Why target Borlaug? He didn't even [engineer] any crops. What he did in the third world - that's not genetic [engineering]. Also, even if he did... It's disgusting to wish someone to croak soon.

[brianpadraic]

Borlaug rocks! Only a whacko would hate him, and these whackos are whites who live in lands of food surplus. They don't care about the "others."

[qvqvqv23]

Sorry, but you've been DEBUNKED by "The World According to Monsanto"

As I've been cruising the GMO related videos, both pro and con, I'm laughing. Honestly, the pro monsanto videos are so funny! I've never seen a more pathetic attempt at PR in all my life.

DEAR MONSANTO, you are exposed. EVERYONE in the comments on all the videos is ANTI MONSANTO. The people who are not account for less than 10%. EVERYONE KNOWS MONSANTO IS EVIL, it's too late for the PR campaign.

[jojo808]

With the Power/responsibility Monsanto wields ,i'd say they arent going out of business anytime soon. Energy is wasted trying to shut them down. You say "pro & con" like those are the extents of all know truth! Most people think this way. There is a middle ground and there lies the reality we All live in but often refuse to see.

[argonaute82]

Farmers and consummer need more information about all the promesses of Biotechnology.

Here is a GREAT documentary about the leading biotech firm. Award winning journalist (MM Robin)'s film has been shown in many European states parliments during this past month.

This documentary shows almost everyone's point of view from farmers who have been trying biotech in US,Canada,India,Argentine to the FDA procedures to allow such food and also we can hear the US former US minister of agriculture. ENJOY

[tasha122277]

nobody wants the fruits of their life's work to be less than spectacular (nop pun intended). just like those who bring children into this world when they can't even feed themselves, Dr Borlaug reminds me of what it means to be simply human.

[jayboy1130]

theres tons of facts u just have to do some actual reaserch on it I typed in his name on google and the first sight that popped up had lots of facts about how his science methods increase agriculture

[thebudgetgamer]

greatest human ever its not even close except for maybe saulk

[LP7158]

He's doomed us all to starvation by overshoot.

[drahyden]

Shut up, Norman Borlaug is an amazing man and he has saved millions of people

[therrydicule]

He doesn't change the world for an utopia, and neither a dystopia.

He only try to make a better world, be he's way... And it's work, so...

[greyhowl]

that,s bullshit

[soylentgreenb]

In order of biggest inputs:

N-fertilizer. Currently natural gas, some renewable electricity. Can use anaerobic digestions of farm waste for methane or electricity.

P-fertilizer. Mostly electric power for mining and processing equipment. Leech uranium from the phospate rock and it's a net energy winner.

Transportation: Mostly diesel. Increased usage of ships and trains(in that order of preference) and substitution. Not even a hundredth of the scale of personal transporation, no big deal.

[d2thek34]

and you base this on what type of facts. NONE the only facts i can see about Dr. borlaug is that he has infact saved a significant number of people with his methods of modern farming so by this measure he is a great human infact the greatest by this measure so fuck you and your psuedo science bull shit.

[jayboy1130]

hm did u do that hard hitting reaserch... IN YOUR ASS???

[laquotes]

He's a hero. He's a voice of reason and understanding.

[Rockybol]

That is prety cool Gerard :0) Are you in biotechnology as well? What Mr. Norman Borlaug likes to do in his spare time as a hobby? I am from Mexico, a country that was greatly benefited for his work. Hope he is doing well. God bless him :0) Thank you

[gerardisyummy]

I'm related to Norman Borlaug.

There is a picture in some Iowa newspaper of him holding me and my brother Ben.

[chrisbord]

The anti-Hitler, anti-Mao, anti-Stalin. Truly one of the top two or three greatest human beings of the last 100 years. He is a Nobel Peace Prize winner (one who actually deserved it), and a few days ago he was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. As much as we hate the mass murderers of history, we should love this man.

[UNBELEAVE]

It's like any cause... IT FINDS YOU.

[tbirdku]

we need more people like him...

[jackbauerisdead]

One of the greatest people ever!

[akodo1]

What Borlaug doesn't bring up much about himself is that many governments of third world nations actively attempted to stop him, as they used food access to control their people. Borlaug and his people often had to sneak themselves and their materials across borders in the dead of night. A true hero

[Verdux]

Norman Borlaug is a great person