K10D: Bar/Nightclub photography tips PART 2

[evmccain]

awesome video man, doing some free work at a club this weekend as a learning experience and this definitely helped.

[travisatwork01]

Thanks for taking the time to share. :)

[MrAlexsavazzi]

lots of great tips!!!

i really like the idea of spinning the camera body/with 1/4 sec. exposure for the bg. light effect.

thanks for putting that together.

[jonathanisonline]

midgets lmao

[iliamgillan]

Thankyou for this :)

[CalSmack]

i am going to use the ghostbuster slide tonight.

[sirkinyo]

How do them defusers work when you're in a club that has all their foggers going? I dont like washed out white shots

[sosbmxxx]

how do you get correct exposure?

[jeruke]

Everything that this guy said is on point. But I like to use bulb feature for the aperture. It gives me more control to play with the ambient lighting than just using the low aperture 1.0 seconds.

[jimmyjamesstudios]

@jeruke you mean shutter speed

[jeruke]

@jimmyjamesstudios my bad. You're right. Didn't even notice that I had made that mistake.

[apodo360]

like that wristband tip

[nullquible90]

Very informative for a newbie like me. I also get some good pointers from thephotographyclinic (.) com

[domeee11]

so should i use omnibounce or just reflector from the flash head?

[km6xz]

@BlackSmackMoshe Yes, but he did not tell you that he uses a wrist strap that keeps the camera secure. He was using a small fairly light lens,I use some larger fast lenses so use a hand strap and Black Rapid RS-5 which is great for heavy lenses. I keep a 70-200VR at my side on or off the camera for the pro style candid portrait shots, and a wide angle. I prefer not to have the wide angle distortion so use a Normal range lens(35-50 mm)

[digitally2007]

where can we see some of your pics.?????

[halfpennystudios]

What ISO are you using for the majority of club shots?

[Alexeixx3]

You should add some of your photos taken at nightclubs to the video

[MildentDoc]

Nice, but it would be great if you could post examples of your work.

[leo2372]

Why cant i use slave mode to fire my flash?

[carl2990]

Hi! you're videos are great but I'm confused about what flash cable/remote triggers to buy, i have a D40 with an SB600 flash, i dont need a huge range so a cable would be fine, but triggers would be handier because obviously wires can be annoying! Any advice on what to buy?

[Kaksht]

Wireless trigers (the cheap ones) will misfire sometimes, defends on the radio noise in the place, but cactus v4 are great for their price. Cable will be more dependable and wont missfire, but limited range. All in all its your decision. If you have the money - buy both.

[farisbmx]

@carl2990 hi i have a nikon d40 and i'am using a PT04III check out my videos i have it

[onlymymovies]

I want to thank you for the great tips in your videos. I decided to pursue club photography myself. I had my first shoot the other night. Pretty much followed everything you said here and added a couple of my own tweeks too. The results were amazing!

Thanks again! I never would have gotten the results I did straight out the gate without watching these first.

[rchadda]

Thanks for the tips. I have 2 questions...

1. How do you alter focus in manual mode when you hold the flash in the 2nd hand ?

2. Is the whale tail really that good ? I tested the lightsphere in my pitch black bathroom and its a piece of junk. I could do better with bouncing the light of the ceiling or playing with the flash power.

[farisbmx]

@rchadda the camera settings is on Manual but the focus are on AUTO.

[rchadda]

fair enough ... i'll have to try this now!

[km6xz]

@rchadda This post might be a little old that I am responding to but the LightSphere really does work very effectively. I use it in clubs 3 nights a week and produces a soft light that is great for candids and portraits when there is no suitable large bounce surface such as an entire wall and ceiling. Most clubs have black ceilings so that absorbs too much power. I use a 1/2 Cloud LS on my SB900's. Shoot 400-1000 shots a night, all come out well exposed.

[SkaterMarvin]

thanks for all the info you shared with us, it really gave me a lot of ideas and how-to's. thanks again!

[EVDenseCorporation]

Very interesting. Learn how EVDense Digital Diary can help you for FREE to protect your photographs by visiting our page.

[jdleyesa]

you can do a rear sync so u can get the light trails giving the ppl viewing the images a feel of the location which is very important. sure you can have a bright clear picture but no one would know where they are. Putting it in rear sync at slower shutter will give better focus and less blur on the subject.

[jeanmarc87]

im sorry, it still looks like a toilet bowl to me :D

[GLXLR]

Why don't you use the wireless flash feature on the K10D?

[THENAMEISREMYSON]

Nice video, cheers :D

[chrismball]

good tips man, ive been doing nightclub photography for the largest nightclub group in the uk for a year now and everything you said is how to earn the big bucks!

[Blid182]

is that photo pal?

[THENAMEISREMYSON]

Blatenyly, and all their photographers are shit. they use full auto. They should give them a bit of training ffs!

[PhilofBristol]

Some really useful info in there!

[nik0n123]

Good tips for sure especially getting the flash off the camera! Less predictable shots/lighting get the most attention.

[PartTimePhotography]

Good stuff - I'll pass this along to all my newsletter subscribers.

[fustah]

Quick question, how about ISO & WB setting? Thanks.

[NIGHTMAREuki]

i don't know what he is using, but i would shoot @ ISO 400

i have 40D

[fustah]

And the WB?? Thx. I have an Xti, looking forward to the new 5D~

[Gary120190]

If your shooting in RAW, use auto then you can change it in photoshop

[Gary120190]

I agree

[ealpogi]

"unless you're surrounded by a bunch of midgets or something..." hahhaha

[vagabond197979]

@ealpogi Hey I go to that club too! I find the chicks dig tall guys...

[maltijien]

What ISO setting do you shoot at?

What setting do you use if your shooting at a concert under changing light intensities ?

Thanks

[Olysses]

great tips! keep up the good work!

[maltijien]

Dude,

Can you tell us something about how to get permission and rights etc.. for shooting on premises?

Thank you

[maltijien]

standing by a bunch of midgets hahahah .

Hey dude, i was expecting some photo samples.

I would really love to see some.I think I like this kind of action.

greAT STUFF.

show us more.

[daraarad1st]

thank you for sharing your tips it helped me so much, pls dont worry what other people say and pls put more stuff on as soon as poss .stuck you on my favs.

[goyt3]

Thanks,,,great !

[eseptimus]

Very well presented!

[reverendx]

brilliant tips dude!

[Surf2130]

couple things. You may have said, but I didn't notice. Forgot to mention what type of flash sync should be used for dark night club shots. 1st sync or primary with 1- 1/4 under 60 shutter will cause motion blur when moving the camera. 2nd Curtain flash is what you prob use. As you know but many don't, you can get that amby light, but freeze your subjects with 2nd curtain. Keep track of actuations. Depending on camera, not all Auto focus can be trusted in dark situation. Good stuff man.

[noahmarsden]

Fully sick tips dude - got anymore for us?

[alexgowers]

Man it pisses me off all these guys saying a Stofen is gonna make soft light is bullshit!!!

It basically turns it into a barebulb light and doesn't soften the light at all.

The only way to make soft light is increase the size of the lightsource! Please no more confusion.

Stofens just spread the beam of light in all directions!

[alexgowers]

@souldrudaddy ok simply put.

A large light source falls on a relatively small subject, this causes a soft shadow as light hits the edges at a wide angle.

A small light source falls on a relatively large subject, in this case the light hits the edges at very few small angles. The shadow edge therefore only falls in line to the edge.

A stofen doesn't increase the light source. The stofen can send light to a wall or surface. When the light reflects off the wall, it becomes a large light source.

[alexgowers]

@souldrudaddy In a night club there are rarely white walls so you are just wasting a lot of flash power not going to your subject. It's best to use distance and relative sizes to your advantage, I use off-camera flash to move the flash closer (increasing it's relative size) and also a orbis or small soft box (yes in a club). If you don't think i'm right check out my rarely updated website .alexgowers . com

[alexgowers]

@souldrudaddy You are so wrong! I already use a stofen on my fill flash on camera (only to reduce power to get a 1:8 fill light ratio. The light that is diffused into an omni light that means it goes in an almost 360degree pattern but does not soften the light. This is complicated also by the inverse square law reducing power.

A diffuser can't soften the light itself, it's only reflected off a walls, and to do that you most definitely don't need a diffuser. Your flash has a swivel head for that

[alexgowers]

@souldrudaddy See here for an explaination, not enough characters here,

h t t p : //blog.davidfenwick.co.uk/2009­/01/using-stofen-omnibounce.ht­ml

[alexgowers]

@souldrudaddy you are getting more retarded. A stofen reduces power because it diffuses light (spreads light in all directions, not softens). Your flash has to output more light to give the same amount of light on your subject. No fucking electric involved!

On cloudy days, light is being diffused (scattered in all directions) in the cloud so that the clouds themselves become the light source, they are larger so create soft shadows. Putting something infront of your flash doesn't soften anything

[souldrudaddy]

@alexgowers some light passes through the stofen and scatters just the same as some light passes through a cloud and scatters. Not 100% of the light though. This is why it is always darker outside on cloudy days (less light). I bet your going to argue that its just as sunny on a cloudy day :-/ . Diffused light is soft light. So a stofen, soft box, cloud, a flannel bed sheet, towelette paper if you freaken wanted all could soften(diffuse) light.

[alexgowers]

@souldrudaddy clearly you still don't understand how a soft shadow is cast. Relative light source to subject size is all that matters. Stofens by their nature are diffusers and do not increase the relative light size. You are confusing the two here.

You must never have used light modifiers or lights, studio or other from the comments you make. These are fundamental basics when dealing with light.

[MutR]

@alexgowers The stoffen only works because its opaque, so while it doesnt exactly diffuse the light, it does spread it more evenly than a bare bulb. Its the same reason a diffuser works on say, a beauty dish. it doesnt do anything to make the light source bigger, but it does help spread the light more evenly, thus providing a softer light.

[dionaeaqi07]

Uh, may I know what white balance setting do you put?  Flash or Tungsten?

[maltijien]

I think florescence lights are found in most bars and nightclubs.

So florescence.

[LarryRusso67]

what is the range of the remote trigger to the flash? - thanks!

[drizztdourdenssf]

I've been a partyphotographer for 2 years now and i guess i'll buy one of those remote triggers ;)

maybe you should mention the iso value as well, keep it at about iso 400(at my nikon d80) and also not to place ones head in the corner when using a wide angle.

and also set the flash on the 2. shutter(when it closes) as i made some bad experiences if you flash on the first shutter.

also, if your flash helps the autofoukus use it for you can skip the manual focus

thx again for the movie :)

[mrzullo]

you dont need transmitters for nikon d80. it has got inbuilt transmitter, Hope you havent purchaced one.

[drizztdourdenssf]

you mean i can trigger the sb-800 with the internal flashunit of the d80? i know that yeah, its just that i dont want that flash lighting my picture as well

[mii999]

the built-on flash doesnt affect the picture. it only uses the flash to trigger your sb-800. it wont have any effect on the picture. on the down side, the speedlight has to face the flash so you cant place the speedlight, for example, behind you.

[sirmontag]

Thanks! Very informative :D

[Iljinator]

Thank you very much!

(I bought a flash for ten bugs and it works!)

Looking forward to new tutorials ;D

[onjai88]

hey awesome videos you have posted on youtube. thanks for all your advice. I'm still learning but you really helped me out. Keep it up!!!

[xmeda]

interesting :)

[shortys126]

Thanks for the cool advice! Nice Ghostbusters reference too, haha.

[karinigen]

Great!! Thanks for this great video! I have the K10D and the Sigma EF-500 DG Super. Now I know how to make great indoor-blurry photos with my flash wirelessly. Thanks!