@zacktillery Not all traditional arts are dying Muay Thai is still used today. Machida uses mainly Karate in his fights. Akiyama uses Judo. And Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is an evolution of traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu. Boxing could be tracked back as far as 675 B.C. sounds traditional to me. All to Disciplines above are used in MMA today. Kung fu sucks so does Akido.
@tuboricua123 disagree. mma fighters cant throw punches and think like boxers can id put any mma fighter as the same weight as manny pacquio, floyd mayweather, antonio margirita, shane mosley, against a mma in a boxing match no way thee mma would win
@The32694 mma fighters can't throw punches? have you ever even seen an mma match? and no shit the boxer would win in a BOXING match -_- its what they trained for . do you really think any boxer would stand a chance in an mma fight? NO . simple as that.
@tuboricua123 yeh actually some that are trained well i think could. And i only brought up that because u guys talk of the mma fighters boxing being as good as boxers and its not its not even the same style. I am a boxer and nobody in my gym boxes like a mma fighter does its less efficient and less defensive and u get less offense out of it
@The32694 i have to disagree on that, i practiced kickboxing and the gym i used to go to i knocked down alot of "boxers" without kusing my legs but i do agree that if you train in one style more you'll obv. be better at it. i still stand by mma because if you put a boxer in an mma fight he'll lose and if you put an mma fighter in a boxing match he'll still have a shot if he's trained in stand up combat
@tuboricua123 lol ok know it all. ufc fighters arent as good as boxers at boxing dont care what you say or think. And your saying that because you have no argument becasue you are a handicap.
@tuboricua123 yeh cause u have nothing to say. MMA fighters cant box like pro boxers can as simple as that you cant compare the two to punching, a boxer will punch out a mma fighter if its strictly boxing
ok guys all u have to think about is how long has each person been in the sport and how good they are. frankly if u took 2 men and they have been trained in boxin and mma for 20 years and champions the guys i would go with would b the boxer b/c all his life he has been throwing punches fighting going through 10 rounds 3 mins of non stop pain and the mma fighter mite knock people out quick but the experiance and wars the boxer went through will be worth it cuz he would b damned to b k.o in 1 rnd
@crazyben108 thats why pro boxer jame tony went to mma and under 2 mins he got beat down bad all the mma guy would do in take him to the ground and throw punches on him and the boxer would lay there and do nothing.
@treverpitts thats why james toney is fucking 40 yrs old and boxers lives arent tht long mma guys r older n still fightin cuz diff muscles u dnt need speed as much as u do muscle when u ground n pound but no a boxer wouldnt lay there and get his ass kicked like i said they fight through wars like gatti and ward those kind of guys who have the champions heart of not giving up. u kids dont kno wtf ur tlkin bout. do the sports and be in the ring gettin hit n then tell me whats harder.
@crazyben108 any top boxer right now take the best boxer with the best mma guy who win if it was boxing the boxer would win if you take the boxer in mma the mma guy will win because he will not be dumb and stand with the boxer and take him down and pound his face in
@treverpitts Well of course MMA would win in that setting... you aren't allowed to beat the guy on the ground in boxing. All MMA is dirty fighting with hints of wrestling. The best of the best highlights of a year in MMA have the same quality punches as an average boxing fight. MMA fighters haven't a clue what it means to defend, throw a punch, or have heart.
@MilkMan2828 will mma guys use 4oz gloves and defending the punch in mma is not like boxing because you have people doing take downs n if you look up anderson silva highlights look up anderson silva vs rich franklin 2 look and all the head moving from anderson str8 up like a pro boxer would do and im not saying mma is dirty its not mma been a round over 200 years if you look up pankration thats the start of mma
@Metalgearsolid1992 The best MMA fighters in the world train for their upcoming fights. It takes dedication, courage, discipline, heart and alot of personal sacrifice to train this hard and stay on top!
@Metalgearsolid1992 You don't need guts, skill, dedication or heart? You are the biggest lepton i have ever encountered in my entire life. Please, eradicate your breed, that is white trash, and leave us normal folk alone.
@crazyben108 by the way i have trained mma be for and i no what its all about go look at my videi there some mma video and stuff up so dont say i dont no any thing i no boxers are good fighters im not saying they suck but you take a guy whos never fights on the ground with a top fighter who dose ground fighting and the boxer get whooped easy its not like me or you who have not train bbj are hole life like alot of mma guy no.
@crazyben108 He fought Couture who was 5 years older than Toney so that is a terrible excuse. Art Jimmerson vs Royce Gracie / Francois Botha vs Akiyama (despite a huge weight advantage) under 2 minute tapout. If you only know one skill you will get beat in MMA, simple. Mercer beat Sylvia who wanted to box a boxer (stupid) but Mercer was also choked out in 1 min by Kimbo who had zero combat sports experience. Both sports are hard as hell in their own way but MMA is more about he complete fighter.
@treverpitts u idiot james toney didnt get beat down he got choked out choking is for pussys that no theyd get bashed if they fought properly and james toney was getting choked for alot longer than ive seen any mma guy be able to handle and he only got toney down becoz toney was wearing things on his foot
@elmoskater fucking dumbass just go back to watching boxing james toney with 2 years of grappling is not even close to stopping an ncaa military and olympic greco roman wrestler like randy. you are not a good troll
@ageeeeeeeeee im not trollingg im telling facts everyone mention james tony loosing well firstly grappling is faggots rolling around tryna choke each other like dickheads secondly james toney was fat in that fight thirdly randy got him down becoz he was wearing ankle supports on his legs so he grabbed on to them randy should off faught like a man but instead he took him to submission coz he new toney would of knocked him out randy even admitted toney would smash him standing up
@elmoskater did anyone tell you in any fighting sport you find there weaknesses? nope stop trolling you suck at it. mike tyson always found ppls weaknesses that wat he did. randy is a wrestler why should a wrestler box. dumbass. these r sports not street fights this fight like a man is street fighting. so boxing is a street fight.
@elmoskater dumbass even if manny paq fought paul daley a B mma fighter. paul would punish manny with kicks knees elbows dirty boxing and takedowns. boxers r trained to box not do anything else.
@ageeeeeeeeee alsso i cant remember the name of the video becoz someone sent me the link like 6 months ago but a black boxer knocked out one of the best guys in the ufc in the first 30 seconds off the fight
@elmoskater oh you mean ray mercer knocking out tim sylvia one of the worst ufc hw champs. he sucked randy manhanled him standing up for 5 rounds. fedor destroyed him standing in 10 seconds. ray just finished it. remember kimbo slice beating ray standing and ground. remember YOSUKE NISHIJIMA 0-5 IN MMA?? SUCK IT BITCH
@ageeeeeeeeee yeh well ray mercer was the only person to knock out tim mercer and kimbo submitted ray mercer see my point is proven mma guys stand no chance against a boxer unless they use submission which is for faggs, yeh boxeers are only trained in punching but there that good at what they do that even if there opponent noes kicks elbows knees etc the boxer still wins unless he gets choked
@elmoskater mma guys have finished boxers thoughout history submission is harder than jab hugging for 12 rounds. nope boxers would get killed look at ray mercer in k1 get his ass kicked. tyson declined a match against bob sapp saying only boxing rules. tyson mercer all say mma is harder. mma is better troll
@ageeeeeeeeee its proven boxing is more dangerous tthen mma its proven also that is harder and more tiring then mma and i doubt tyson said mma is better than boxing send me a link to a video also when mercer fought kimbo ray was 46 way way outta his prime and when he beat silvia he was 48
@elmoskater its been proven boxing has more damage on ur brain but more tiring is mma. and kimbo had no training bak in 2005 wen he fought ray mercer. and james toney was 6 years younger wen he fought randy.
@ageeeeeeeeee see ur so stupid im right ur wrong ray and kimbo fought in 2007 u retarded gimp and no its proven that boxing is more tiring becoz u dont get a break coz in mma most off the time there wrestling on the ground like faggots trying to submit each other and randy coutour only one becoz he was to scared to fight like a man so he submitted him and randy was in way better shape at the time james tony was really fat
@crazyben108 Legs are longer than arms. takedowns take things to the ground. A boxer could never beat an mma fighter because mma fighters no boxing too. But they also take a piece of everything else to the best. Its easy to the be the best boxer....BUT it take heart,skill, tough training to the be the best martial artist
@crazyben108 man if you really think that then your tihnking close mindedly. an mma fighter has 20 years of experiences of knees to the face, elbows to the face, kicks to the head which are all harded then punches with boxing gloves on. and a boxer who has trained 20 years on his feet, and is taken down and the mma guy starts working him on the ground in different positions trying to choke him, 100% of the time he will get him, the boxer doesn't know how to work on the ground.
@xxdrextonxx Ok take manny he would annihilate a mma fighter b/c look at manny's background he grew up in poverty he grew up not eating much, being alone in santo's city, pro boxer at the age of 16 and fighting men. Take a guy like that and put him in a rin with mma rules, if tht mma guys puts his hands no lie he would get hit right on top of the head and get knocked out, but different weight classes, heavy\ weights, aint no fucking mma is gunna beat a boxer. boxer hits way to hard.
@crazyben108 hands down to grapple* any boxer would take advantage hit them hard, but it depends on weight class, like tyson vs. brock, i dnt think so. lol, take george foreman thee heaviest hitter in the boxing history in my opinion and rocky marciano, those guys nuh huh. but its how the fighter fights not the art. U learn but when it comes down to it its all up to you.
@crazyben108 im talking about the same weight class, like if the prodigy bj went up against manny manny would lose. honestly all the mma fighter has to do is get on his back and stay there pounding his face in, manny wouldn't know hot to reverse that position. and i get the whole grew up poor background but seriously come on, thats how most samoans grow up on the island of samoa. i really dont know how growing up poor would really change it, its about the heart not the background.
@xxdrextonxx no im rlly not, i respect mma but i have been thru both, i did taekwondo, judo and learned to mix it up and i will put up my vids of my wrestling and gone to the states and nat. i have been fighting for 6 1/2 yrs of fighting and now im doing boxing b/c it demands being tough it demands not going down on a body shot ebing relentless and it teaches u the pain, it teaches u the heart to get up, boxing is a humble sport, but manny, watch him with no gloves on, speed manny will
@xxdrextonxx throw like speed crazy, bj would not kno wtf to do he would panick at the hand speed of manny, boxing is very demanding, they dont get paid millions of dollers for nothing, and to tell u the truth the only thing a boxer needs to know when fighting a mma fighter, use speed, plant ur feet move ur feet to dodge the kicks, it would be a challage for a boxer but manny is the p4p and would pick off a mma guy with a 6 punch combo with mma gloves? idnt bj would want to throw bak lol
@crazyben108 once i again i bring the fact back up that bj would just have to take him down, hes also a black belt in brazilian ju jitsu. all he has to do is rush through the punches which would be easy grab his legs pick him up and take him down, from there its an automatic win. and the only reason they are paid millions is because more people watch boxing than ufc and mma which makes no sense cause ufc is twice as entertaining to watch, its the true aspect of fighting.
A boxer worth his salt would never go in this to start with -- they get paid far more money in Boxing.. Why take the risk? Tyson was a brawler before boxer. I'd like to see him in the cage....
there is no arguement to be had, nobody wants to see two dudes punch each other in the face for twelve rounds anymore. They have 6 billion titles that mean jack shit. Ring Magazine has a boxing title, McDonalds prob has one, its nuts. And you've got boxers just hugging each other an entire fight, a la, hopkins vs Pascal. I LOVE boxing, but the truth is MMA fighters are NOT the terrible strikers of the old UFC days. Its a more well rounded, technical game filled with pro boxing level strikers
An MMA fighter will never truly understand what it is to be a true warrior. You can't put techno and pop together to make good music. They could only do well separately. Each fighting art is tailored to different types of people. Calling yourself a mixed martial artist is like telling people you're an indecisive prick. If you are a easy going guy with high energy then find a specific style that reflects that.
@DragonLee3 don't think Bruce was an MMA fighter. Also MMA fighters are the red mages of the fighting arts. Good at allot of things but masters of nothing.
@DragonLee3 but bruce lee was a real martial artist where mma fighter just brawl with no skill they just throw any random punch and kick and hope for the best the knockouts in mma are just lucky and random where the ones in boxing or traditional martial arts are skillful
@elmoskater Have you ever watched MMA? Sure, some are brawlers I'll admit, but go watch the video of Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin, and then tell me if those punches were all luck.
@BotheredShadow yes i have i like mma but its no where near as good as boxing and i watched that fight they are random punches and talk about shit defence they dont even have there hand at the face
@elmoskater They don't have huge gloves like boxers do. Put your fist next to your head, and tell me that'd be enough to stop a really powerful punch or headkick. Sway or dodge is always safer for mma fighters. Plus, if you kept your hands up the whole time, you'd probably get taken down. They have so much more to worry about than any boxer, that no matter what they're doing, something is always left open to attack.
@BotheredShadow it would be enough u take to kick or punch with your hand and they cant dodge forr shit boxers duck and weav so fast and u can keep ur hands up and knee someone in the face when they go to take u down
TO continue, I actually like and respect MMA (especially the Gracie brand of BJJ). But it is fools who keep saying that this is the ULTIMATE -- and consequently, learn nothing else, is what is now turning me off from the sport. It is JUST A SPORT, with rules. Get a grip. An MMA practitioner will not win against a BOXER, if boxing rules are applied. And the converse is true. In a STREET FIGHT? Those who know the most will win, and that means not just BJJ/grappling.
Boxers will not last 1 min in an MMA match? No MMA practitioner has become world champion in boxing (where there is MORE MONEY). The current rules in MMA favors BJJ (and wrestling). No small joint manipulation, no fish-hooking, etc. MMA is still just a sport and nowhere near the real thing. Someone pulls a ballpoint pen, and your grappling technique doesn't matter. And that's just a pen. Point is, STOP dissing on other "martial arts". And do not confuse a SPORT for a MARTIAL ART.
You people are confusing two completely different sports (they are both sports, not "real fighting"), then ALSO confusing marketing versus reality. If "boxing is dead", why are the top fighters in boxing paid several times more per fight than top MMA guys? Boxing isn't dead, the promoters have maimed it. When I grew up, you could see M.Ali fight on saturday on abc for free, like spike does with re-runs of mma. It is just different. Get a grip.
@kenfo0 yup boxing isn't even close to dead, it just doesn't have the buzz that mma has because of the audience. It's like baseball, there's not as much hype but it's still the highest paid sport in the US.
the only thing I don't like about UFC is the gloves they should be heavier, makes more interesting fights than one second knock outs, I mean someone trips, and boom they hammer you will the ref stops it. what sort of fight is that. no skill needed.
why should Boxing be compaired with MMA ,, boxing has got some class. Boxing is the ultimate competion between two men which tests their power, stamina, courage and confidence. UFC is just two brainless men trying to harm each other. Boxing has the History and has a better future..!
@02itzram ufc is martial artsit dose is close thing you have to a real fight n mma been around long as boxing look pankration was over 1000 years old n thats the first mma mma is ufc if you dont no n so true how come boxers to in mma n can even last 1 mins
@treverpitts Pankration and MMA aren't the same. Evidense that Pankration once existed was discovered and now MMA fans are deciding that it's the same as what they do. MMA as it is today is brand new and it wasn't derived from Pankration. Evidence of Pankration was found, meaning it died off at one point, while boxing stayed around for centuries. Let's hope MMA doesn't suffer the same fate.
@treverpitts - mma is nothing like a real fight. grappling won't help you if you get jump. they will just kick you in the head and keep doing it til your out.
@TheGILBERTnetwork ok if mma not like a real fight then . thing all street fights dont have people getting jumped alot of the time its one on one n it dose not just stay on the free . if i no bjj i can throw a guy down n chock him out JOHN JONES ufc fight double leg takedown on some dude who robed some one n got him in a leg lock in the middle of new york so it dose work
@treverpitts Please mate, learn to type.. really. MMA and Boxing are two different beast. But for someone who has done both. If you pin an MMA against a Boxer, the boxer will have a lot of short cumming as he is not trained to parry kicks or even kick. Nor is he trained to fight on the ground. But that MMA guy needs to watch for the power punches. If he can parry or even block them and take the fight to the ground, I'm sorry to say that it's over for the boxer.
Tradition has nothing to do with it. Barbarism has nothing to do against it. it's two completely different sports with different rule sets. One is more rounded than the other though in term of physical abilities and techniques. I'm not talking of wannabes that just go out and throw punches and punches and kicks without thinking. If you watch good MMA fighters, you'll see that there is techniques and tactics.
I'll also remind the boxers fan here, that before the 50's where stricter rules were implemented, boxing was a very very barbaric sports even to the eyes of the people who went to see the fights. Fights often went to the 15 rounds and more leading to sever injuries to the boxers and even deaths. And the use of gloves were only really enforced when the Queensberry rules came to be in 1867. Before that most of the boxing matches were done barehanded which resulted in a lot of facials injuries.
The modern boxing gloves are meant to protect the hands more than to protect the opponent, although they do reduce the facial injuries. They do nothing to protect the head injuries. In fact since the introduction of the modern boxing gloves, head injuries have become even more common as it permits the boxer to hit with more strength without little risk of injuring his hands. So again, both sports are brutal. Both have their own set of rules.
@TheGILBERTnetwork MMA is as close to a real fight as is possible without people getting maimed. A highly skilled MA has an EXCELLENT chance at beating down a common hood rat. Look at kimbo slice. Seemed pretty tough in the streets, got his ass handed to him in the ring. Now, if you are trying to say "don't purposefully go to the ground in a street fight", then yes. Once there, it's better to know what to do than not.
@TheGILBERTnetwork UFC is not a reflection of what real street violence is. In the UFC and other organizations there are many rules for the fighters safety. But, it is the closest thing to reality. MMA encompasses all fighting styles or techniques that you wish to employ. Where as boxing is just one aspect of what a true mix martial artist might choose to practice.
And for the boxing fans that say that all MMA is a bunch of redneck white guys with tats and piercings rolling around on the floor. They are just caught in the same kind of stale mate that boxers find themselves in a clinch. The difference here is they have more options. When you have two equally skilled grapplers fighting on the floor, every movement they make is a counter move, and a movement towards setting up a submission hold of some kind, no matter how rediculous it may look.
@TheGILBERTnetwork You ever seen a "real" fight? 99% of them grab eachothers shirts and roll on the ground. and fine stomp somone who knows Jitz or sambo... be warned you will get your leg broken. also... se what roger huerta thought of "real" fighting
@treverpitts Your comment is also stupid. You can't name 1 top of the food chain boxer in his prime who has fought in MMA. Not one. Why? Why would they risk their $1-20million per fight paycheck to make $800k in MMA? That would be stupid. People do not understand how incredibly hard pro boxers hit. They think, "one time when I was six a girl slapped me...I'm tough". Every time you move up in a sport from amateur to pro to top of pros, it is a whole different world.
@02itzram Boxing fans who flame mma generally have no knowledge of the ground game or how intricate it really is. I mean boxing is a great sport and it is a science of offense and defense and stylistic match ups. But an MMA fighter can be just as methodic and intelligent if not more because of the fact that boxing is simply one facet of mixed martial arts and there is a much greater variety of threats to you in the octagon.
@02itzram Brainless? Your fucking retarded. I could say the same for boxing and I'd be every bit as wrong as you are about MMA. Hell MMA requires more skill than boxing being that your not limited to just your fist, and have to worry about grappling, and getting your face kicked in. I wont argue that boxing doesn't require skill(because it does), but MMA is every bit as much of a test of power stamina courage, and confidence as boxing is.
@02itzram wtf are you talking about? Boxing is DEAD and lol to the "2 brainless men trying to harm eachother", then what are boxers doing? drinking tee? actually brainless is exactly how boxers en up, taking so many fucking hits to the head. As much as i like box, it's a dying sport.
@02itzram your comment is stupid. sadly, on the mma side, there are people who are just as stupid who just like to see someone get hurt, but those assclowns/fairies watch boxing too. They are not in competition, they are two different sports. Boxing rules came about so people could fight w/o getting maimed. MMA does this (they were forced) through strict rules (no head-butting, fish hooks, spine locks, etc which were all part of prize fights originally). Boxing promoters killed boxing.
@02itzram you know nothing about martial arts. Brainless is putting on 12oz gloves and neglecting 95% of your capabilities and spending 12 rounds bashing each other in the head. Mixed Martial Arts has intricacies universes beyond what a boxer could understand.
@02itzram Really brainless idiots, Fedor Emlianenko is not brainless he is humble your a stereotype who thinks all people who fight in MMA are brainless idiots who go in a ring to beat each other. I train in both boxing and MMA i know both arts and let me tell you both take alot of heart, courage and confidence!!!!
@02itzram i fail to see how MMA doesnt use Stamina Power andcourage as well. you can argue that Boxing has less courage and power tho... considering boxing has the weaker strikes. punches are the weakest strike a man can throw. I.e. elbows knees and kicks. MMA is a little bit morethan half caught up to boxing... and MMA is 20 years old. boxing has been a pro sport for about 6x longer... you see the comparison
@02itzram Mike tyson is a brainless moron with a self described strategy of imflicting harm... same with toney.... so i dont think the brainlessa rgument is a good one to make if yyour a boxer. considering that the % of fighters in MMA who have college degrees is 8 times higher than boxing.....
@02itzram Lol poor ignorant, MMA is a combination of the best martial arts, there is no chance a boxer will win a fight, MMA have submision, boxing can only go for points or knockouts, lol besides if a boxer loose his balance or felt down by accident, they stop the fight GAAAAY, in MMA you have to know how to deffend ur self on the floor, in fack if u r good enough u can win. Moron dont talk nonsense, u r an idiot, I respect boxing but there is no chance, just there isnt
@necrossisnk1 submission is for faggs and mma thinks there martial artist if u watch a real martial artist there way faster and more skill ful mma fighters throw bigg sloppy wild punches and dont have good defense and they kick sloopy like a retard were if u watch a taaekowndo etc fighter they kick fast and good
@elmoskater OK so the question is a Pro Boxer of 165 pounds can Defeat a Pro MMA fighter of 165 pounds?, thats the question. I practice Taekwondo its a beutifull art, but is only that belive me, most of this fighters are awesome kickers but when you trow a kick your oponent can grab your leg and kick your fcking ass, so think twice before saying something like they dont kick a lot, there is a reason why they dont do it, and stop beliving all that Hollywood shit is not true
@02itzram if a boxer steps into a cage with a mma fighter yes he has a bigger chance to knock him out with a punch but the mma fighter can do longer range attacks like kicks or take down the boxer to the floor where the boxer has no experience at all
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my opinion is that MMA beats boxing 5 out of 5....
if the fight goes to the ground between the two wtf is boxing going to do??MMA wins,and if the fight stays on the feet boxers can punch and???thats about it. nope that is it.
and what can MMA do you ask???leg kicks, body kicks,head kicks..etc ,all the punches boxers and more...plus elbows, flying elbows,flying punches, oh and lets not for get submissions,which can be done on the ground or standing,like chokes,leg locks,arm locks,arm bars. etc.
joe is full of shit mma is cool but its not on the same level as boxing not even kick boxers cant fight like a true pro boxer elite boxer punch like sharp shooters and move sharp as a knife mma fighters punch like drunk street fighters and move the same way lol
@ageeeeeeeeee ask tim sylvia who got knocked out by one punch by a old washed up ray mercer if boxers are slow not only are they fast they hit harder then any mma fighter even tim sylvia said after the fight he has never got hit harder in his life then how hard ray hit him and if you watch the fight ray did not even put hit full power into the shot lol i like mma but face it there all punks that hold to death and not only cant punch but they cant take a punch
@drugwhore tim was washed up too. he was defeaed by fedor in 10 seconds. tim could never take a punch randy KNOCKED HIM DOWN RANDY!!!. so yeah thanks for taking out tim we hated him. remember ray and kimbo. mma gloves r diferent than boxing gloves
@drugwhore boxing is slow compared to mma fighters. remember kimbo beating ray. no boxer will last in the ufc remember randy and toney. besides tim didnt take him seriously if he would of he would of knocked out ray
@gnrsux2 true boxing is slow.... mma is a fast sport and to tell you the truth it is highly unbalanced there is nothing you can say that can change that fact boxing is a perfect sport built over 100s of years mma is a mess a joke somebody made on a drunk Friday boxing is a perfect sport mma is fun but broken its also boring alot of the time and weak the fighters 9 times out of 10 look like bums who cant even punch in a boxing ring they could not beat the worst boxer ask anderson silva
@drugwhore you do realize the ufc was created in 92 by brazilians to show what bjj is? silva was a muay thai fighter b4 going into boxing. he also did shit in his 5 mma fights. plus that was over 10 years ago fighters improve.in that case james toney represents boxing which everyone cant even take out washed up randy
@ageeeeeeeeee washed up randy is a bum he did the classic mma pussy move fight a guy at what there worst at not what there best at im sorry dude in a boxing you cant fight a man at what there worst at you must fight that at there best
@drugwhore ur an idiot. if a striker and a grappler fought in mma rules wats the grappler gonna do clinch wats the striker gonna do strike idiot. i like to see u call james toney a pussy for not tryng to wrestle randy. second of all mma is a sport from wat ur sayin fight like a man boxing is a street fight
@gnrsux2 mma is fun but a broken sport its also to fast and most of the time is just so funny to watch in mma you could watch dude punch like crazy and not land one blow you can also watch dude walk around for 4min and not even punch or kick or even move there head then after 4 min they shoot in to put a guy on the cage what a fucking bum sport
@drugwhore lol at ur comment. boxing is a bum sport now only 2 big names and it looks like a hugfest and dancing for 12 rounds. boxing isnt a sport its pure entertainment. but hey its fun to watch 2 men beat each other up with hands giving them brain damage later on.
@gnrsux2 dude are you dumb mma is a bum sport where a wwe acter can beat the so called best boxing is a raver sharp sport you can be a bum and fight at pro in boxing in mma you can go to pro level with no fights under your belt now thats what i call bum fest and your calling boxing a hug fest lol shut the fuck up i lost count of how many mma fights look more like a hug contest then a fight i have seen mma fighter where the dudes hug for 25 min lol bum sport
@drugwhore u do realize brock was an ncaa div 1 wrestling champion with a record of 106-5. in boxing anyone can be champion thats why there r over 100 belts in a weight class. i seen boxers with no record go into pro boxing like manny pacman. i seen so many hugfests in boxing its boring. why is that shane couldnt put away shaq huh answer that fag. u call floyd a p4p wen all he does is dance and beat up women pathetic.
@gnrsux2 Shane Mosley= 5'9" and somewhere around 140lbs, Shaq= 7'1" 325lbs. It was an exhibition for a TV show!!!! I would like to see Anderson Silva fight Shaq.
@drugwhore lol a b um sport i seen bums all over the place they hate mma they like boxing and do it. tyson a criminal bernard a criminal went into boxing became champions.
@drugwhore boxing cant even put up fights people want to see they give people bullshit one sided fights for 60 $. when that fight happens ( u know the fight) it will be somewat popular again which it will never happen so have fun living in the past the new generation loves mma
@gnrsux2 Only people who aren't boxing spectators are sayng that boxing isn't putting up fights people wanna see. Even if that fight (u know the fight) doesn't happen soon, Pacquiao is facing Mosley soon which will be a good fight and may be a big upset. But you can still see great boxing matches on HBO, Showtime, Versus, FSD, and ESPN if one would want to see a boxing match and not just a show blown up by the media.
@gnrsux2 How can you watch boxing if there are only two people that you hear about, and they aren't even fighting eachother. How can you watch boxing alot without hearing about Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, Chad Dawson, Paul Williams, David Haye or the Klitschos?!! Either you aren't watching or you're just in denial.
@PREMODOGMATIC because there arent any good boxers anymore the last good boxer worth watching was lennox.i cant stand floyd and his dancing manny is just destroyng everyone. klitckos are a joke.
@gnrsux2 If you don't like or aren't entertained by the fighters I named then maybe boxing just isn't your thing. And that is understandable, you have a right to your own preference. But your opinion doesn't necessarily represent the worlds opinion. My opinion doesn't either, but I do know that boxing is still doing well and is getting better with time. There are hungry fighters coming up and it's getting competitive. I suggest people observe and appreciate both sports. Thats what I do.
@gnrsux2 That my friend is true. But thats because most of the organizing and managing is done within the fighters camp. You dont have a big company negotiating and arranging certain fights, everyone is for themselves so to speak. Everything is put together by managers and promoters. But in MMA everything is done within the organization, which makes it good for business to promote every fighter. Boxers aren't necessarily comitted to any organization, so it wouldn't make since to promote them.
@gnrsux2 MMA is learning from boxings mistakes. But it hasnt seen the success of boxing. That doesn't mean that it won't, but it is still learning. MMA started with UFC, many don't know that. Pankration was similar but wasn't MMA. Though sensational, it may be underdeveloped to be compared to boxing as a business. Boxing should be marketed better. Its just that HBO only markets HBO events and likewise with Showtime and PPV. They don't benefit from eachother and they dont care about the fighters.
@gnrsux2 Popularity and success arent one and the same. And besides, it may be popular, and growing, but it isn't as popular as boxing has been in the past. And notice that I continue to remind you that boxing is starting to get exciting again. If you have the time. check out Sergio Martinez, Chad Johnson, Paul Williams, Timothy Bradley, or Andre Ward. Manny won't have to hold that weight much longer. By the way have Forrest Griffen and Rich Franklin fought yet?
@PREMODOGMATIC they fight ufc 126. and i have watched those boxers boxing has gone downhill in popularity. it hasnt gone up at all the average person still doesnt know who they are. they know who manny is. and the sad thing is mike tyson is known as the ear biter. until the hangover. as long as the ufc (MMA) is around so is boxing if 1 dies the other dies
@gnrsux2 You're right. Most of those guys aren't known outside of the boxing community. Likewise I think that there are alot of good maybe even great MMA fighters who aren't well known outside of the MMA community. I also agree that it's sad that Tyson became the character that he was instead of the great champion he could have been. And I know MMA is here to stay but I will appreciate it alot more when trend following fans lose interest. They give true fans like you and I a bad name.
@Gorideyurbike joe is full of shit mma is cool but its not on the same level as boxing not even kick boxers cant fight like a true pro boxer elite boxer punch like sharp shooters and mma fighters punch like drunk street fighters lol
how stupid are you? ufc is not a fighting style, its just a club where people with different fight styles come together to show off their fighting skills.
this guy is stupid....I can go in a cage match boxing and come out a winner against an mma fighter or a ufc fighter....people don't understand much if they aren't the fighters,it's all on how you use your fighting style...if your really good at boxing you can use it to win any fight it's all on the person...timing your opponent and using your skills effectively is the key to any fight...I know from experience I've been in the ring with a mma fighter that was a descent fighter too...and I won
this is shitty.. video is making me sick cause dude cant hold the camera still.. PUT THE CAMERA DOWN U FUCKING IDIOT WHY ARE U STANDING THERE HOLDING THE CAMERA INFRONT OF THE TV LIKE A FUCKING GEEK
o i have no doubbt more have but thats just 3, people in boxing die of punch drunk, killed in ring by conditioning from exhausted or dehydrated, or heat stroke , boxing would be more than just a dangerous sport if the broughten rules where brought back
Boxing is alot more dangerous than mma because once you get knocked down you can get bak up and more people have died in boxing than mma only one person has died in mma 7000 fights including pro and amature boxing people die from either getting hit to hard or they use to from conditioning in old school rules where bouts would 25-30 rounds and was 15 but ppls kept die'ing and now its 10 rounds reg bout
One could write volumes on the misconceptions that boxing-only, and MMA-only fans have about each others respective favorite sport. The fact is, the two generally don't know crap about the other. One is not harder than the other; they are both super tough, yes, in MMA you have to do more, and that is challenging, but boxing, also kick-boxing, etc. are limited by design, which presents a different kind of challenge.
This debate is played out; some people just prefer boxing, some prefer MMA, and some like both. You're not going to talk someone out of their opinion. Who cares which sport is tougher, it's which one you personally find more entertaining. As well, neither sport is going to die. They are both doing well. I personally respect both.
MMA will beat boxing by majority. Boxing is just punches as to MMA being punches, kicks, knees, elbows, takedowns, submissions, etc. If a MMA fighter can stand with the boxer, he/she will. If they can't, they'll take it to the ground. Simple. MMA can include boxing but boxing will never consist of martial arts.
MMA is more well-rounded but, it really depends on the individual fighter
Kyosuke180 2 months ago
None of them r better its just ur oppinion
jrv60 4 months ago
@jrv60 You are clearly a bruce lee fan. There are things that are better, hence why traditional martial arts are FINALLY dying.
zacktillery 1 month ago
@zacktillery traditional martial arts arent dying... we are just taking what is useful and discarding what is useless.
Jsnowboard 1 month ago
@zacktillery Not all traditional arts are dying Muay Thai is still used today. Machida uses mainly Karate in his fights. Akiyama uses Judo. And Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is an evolution of traditional Japanese Jiu Jitsu. Boxing could be tracked back as far as 675 B.C. sounds traditional to me. All to Disciplines above are used in MMA today. Kung fu sucks so does Akido.
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boxingking2010 5 months ago
mma > boxing
tuboricua123 6 months ago
@tuboricua123 disagree. mma fighters cant throw punches and think like boxers can id put any mma fighter as the same weight as manny pacquio, floyd mayweather, antonio margirita, shane mosley, against a mma in a boxing match no way thee mma would win
The32694 6 months ago
@The32694 mma fighters can't throw punches? have you ever even seen an mma match? and no shit the boxer would win in a BOXING match -_- its what they trained for . do you really think any boxer would stand a chance in an mma fight? NO . simple as that.
tuboricua123 6 months ago
@tuboricua123 yeh actually some that are trained well i think could. And i only brought up that because u guys talk of the mma fighters boxing being as good as boxers and its not its not even the same style. I am a boxer and nobody in my gym boxes like a mma fighter does its less efficient and less defensive and u get less offense out of it
The32694 6 months ago
@The32694 i have to disagree on that, i practiced kickboxing and the gym i used to go to i knocked down alot of "boxers" without kusing my legs but i do agree that if you train in one style more you'll obv. be better at it. i still stand by mma because if you put a boxer in an mma fight he'll lose and if you put an mma fighter in a boxing match he'll still have a shot if he's trained in stand up combat
tuboricua123 6 months ago
@tuboricua123 he will never have a shot if its a good boxer.
The32694 6 months ago
@The32694 not if the mma fighter is also a good boxer
tuboricua123 6 months ago
@tuboricua123 doesnt matter
The32694 5 months ago
@The32694 lol your dumb i'm done here
tuboricua123 5 months ago
@tuboricua123 lol ok know it all. ufc fighters arent as good as boxers at boxing dont care what you say or think. And your saying that because you have no argument becasue you are a handicap.
The32694 5 months ago
@tuboricua123 yeh cause u have nothing to say. MMA fighters cant box like pro boxers can as simple as that you cant compare the two to punching, a boxer will punch out a mma fighter if its strictly boxing
The32694 5 months ago
ok guys all u have to think about is how long has each person been in the sport and how good they are. frankly if u took 2 men and they have been trained in boxin and mma for 20 years and champions the guys i would go with would b the boxer b/c all his life he has been throwing punches fighting going through 10 rounds 3 mins of non stop pain and the mma fighter mite knock people out quick but the experiance and wars the boxer went through will be worth it cuz he would b damned to b k.o in 1 rnd
crazyben108 7 months ago
@crazyben108 thats why pro boxer jame tony went to mma and under 2 mins he got beat down bad all the mma guy would do in take him to the ground and throw punches on him and the boxer would lay there and do nothing.
treverpitts 7 months ago 9
@treverpitts thats why james toney is fucking 40 yrs old and boxers lives arent tht long mma guys r older n still fightin cuz diff muscles u dnt need speed as much as u do muscle when u ground n pound but no a boxer wouldnt lay there and get his ass kicked like i said they fight through wars like gatti and ward those kind of guys who have the champions heart of not giving up. u kids dont kno wtf ur tlkin bout. do the sports and be in the ring gettin hit n then tell me whats harder.
crazyben108 7 months ago
@crazyben108 any top boxer right now take the best boxer with the best mma guy who win if it was boxing the boxer would win if you take the boxer in mma the mma guy will win because he will not be dumb and stand with the boxer and take him down and pound his face in
treverpitts 7 months ago 4
@treverpitts Well of course MMA would win in that setting... you aren't allowed to beat the guy on the ground in boxing. All MMA is dirty fighting with hints of wrestling. The best of the best highlights of a year in MMA have the same quality punches as an average boxing fight. MMA fighters haven't a clue what it means to defend, throw a punch, or have heart.
MilkMan2828 7 months ago
@MilkMan2828 will mma guys use 4oz gloves and defending the punch in mma is not like boxing because you have people doing take downs n if you look up anderson silva highlights look up anderson silva vs rich franklin 2 look and all the head moving from anderson str8 up like a pro boxer would do and im not saying mma is dirty its not mma been a round over 200 years if you look up pankration thats the start of mma
treverpitts 7 months ago
@MilkMan2828 boxing is overall a much better sport.. it takes guts, skill,dedication, and heart into boxing.. in mma u dont need any of that...
Metalgearsolid1992 5 months ago
@Metalgearsolid1992 The best MMA fighters in the world train for their upcoming fights. It takes dedication, courage, discipline, heart and alot of personal sacrifice to train this hard and stay on top!
treverpitts 5 months ago
@Metalgearsolid1992 You don't need guts, skill, dedication or heart? You are the biggest lepton i have ever encountered in my entire life. Please, eradicate your breed, that is white trash, and leave us normal folk alone.
zacktillery 1 month ago
@crazyben108 by the way i have trained mma be for and i no what its all about go look at my videi there some mma video and stuff up so dont say i dont no any thing i no boxers are good fighters im not saying they suck but you take a guy whos never fights on the ground with a top fighter who dose ground fighting and the boxer get whooped easy its not like me or you who have not train bbj are hole life like alot of mma guy no.
treverpitts 7 months ago
@treverpitts imo soldiers would beat everything
i mean, they are trained to fight vs. people who only want to kill you
ZerkMode 6 months ago
@crazyben108 Randy Corture is in his 40s and he beat James Toney... So age isn't a factor in your argument, but nice try.
krims0n70 6 months ago
@crazyben108 He fought Couture who was 5 years older than Toney so that is a terrible excuse. Art Jimmerson vs Royce Gracie / Francois Botha vs Akiyama (despite a huge weight advantage) under 2 minute tapout. If you only know one skill you will get beat in MMA, simple. Mercer beat Sylvia who wanted to box a boxer (stupid) but Mercer was also choked out in 1 min by Kimbo who had zero combat sports experience. Both sports are hard as hell in their own way but MMA is more about he complete fighter.
Immortalsyn83 2 months ago
@treverpitts u idiot james toney didnt get beat down he got choked out choking is for pussys that no theyd get bashed if they fought properly and james toney was getting choked for alot longer than ive seen any mma guy be able to handle and he only got toney down becoz toney was wearing things on his foot
elmoskater 7 months ago
@elmoskater fucking dumbass just go back to watching boxing james toney with 2 years of grappling is not even close to stopping an ncaa military and olympic greco roman wrestler like randy. you are not a good troll
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@ageeeeeeeeee im not trollingg im telling facts everyone mention james tony loosing well firstly grappling is faggots rolling around tryna choke each other like dickheads secondly james toney was fat in that fight thirdly randy got him down becoz he was wearing ankle supports on his legs so he grabbed on to them randy should off faught like a man but instead he took him to submission coz he new toney would of knocked him out randy even admitted toney would smash him standing up
elmoskater 6 months ago
@elmoskater did anyone tell you in any fighting sport you find there weaknesses? nope stop trolling you suck at it. mike tyson always found ppls weaknesses that wat he did. randy is a wrestler why should a wrestler box. dumbass. these r sports not street fights this fight like a man is street fighting. so boxing is a street fight.
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@elmoskater dumbass even if manny paq fought paul daley a B mma fighter. paul would punish manny with kicks knees elbows dirty boxing and takedowns. boxers r trained to box not do anything else.
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@ageeeeeeeeee alsso i cant remember the name of the video becoz someone sent me the link like 6 months ago but a black boxer knocked out one of the best guys in the ufc in the first 30 seconds off the fight
elmoskater 6 months ago
@elmoskater oh you mean ray mercer knocking out tim sylvia one of the worst ufc hw champs. he sucked randy manhanled him standing up for 5 rounds. fedor destroyed him standing in 10 seconds. ray just finished it. remember kimbo slice beating ray standing and ground. remember YOSUKE NISHIJIMA 0-5 IN MMA?? SUCK IT BITCH
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@ageeeeeeeeee yeh well ray mercer was the only person to knock out tim mercer and kimbo submitted ray mercer see my point is proven mma guys stand no chance against a boxer unless they use submission which is for faggs, yeh boxeers are only trained in punching but there that good at what they do that even if there opponent noes kicks elbows knees etc the boxer still wins unless he gets choked
elmoskater 6 months ago
@elmoskater mma guys have finished boxers thoughout history submission is harder than jab hugging for 12 rounds. nope boxers would get killed look at ray mercer in k1 get his ass kicked. tyson declined a match against bob sapp saying only boxing rules. tyson mercer all say mma is harder. mma is better troll
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@ageeeeeeeeee its proven boxing is more dangerous tthen mma its proven also that is harder and more tiring then mma and i doubt tyson said mma is better than boxing send me a link to a video also when mercer fought kimbo ray was 46 way way outta his prime and when he beat silvia he was 48
elmoskater 6 months ago
@elmoskater its been proven boxing has more damage on ur brain but more tiring is mma. and kimbo had no training bak in 2005 wen he fought ray mercer. and james toney was 6 years younger wen he fought randy.
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@ageeeeeeeeee see ur so stupid im right ur wrong ray and kimbo fought in 2007 u retarded gimp and no its proven that boxing is more tiring becoz u dont get a break coz in mma most off the time there wrestling on the ground like faggots trying to submit each other and randy coutour only one becoz he was to scared to fight like a man so he submitted him and randy was in way better shape at the time james tony was really fat
elmoskater 6 months ago
@elmoskater LOL wrestling has been proven to be more tiring. remember these r sports not street fights so stop talkin like its one. TROLLLLLL
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@elmoskater boxing is jab jab jab clinch for 12 rounds cough cough kltickos fighting.
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@crazyben108 MMA fighters can knock out someone faster, cos 8 out of the 10 times ... they dont use boxing gloves.
KoesKoes99 7 months ago
@crazyben108 Legs are longer than arms. takedowns take things to the ground. A boxer could never beat an mma fighter because mma fighters no boxing too. But they also take a piece of everything else to the best. Its easy to the be the best boxer....BUT it take heart,skill, tough training to the be the best martial artist
revelation1234 5 months ago
@crazyben108 man if you really think that then your tihnking close mindedly. an mma fighter has 20 years of experiences of knees to the face, elbows to the face, kicks to the head which are all harded then punches with boxing gloves on. and a boxer who has trained 20 years on his feet, and is taken down and the mma guy starts working him on the ground in different positions trying to choke him, 100% of the time he will get him, the boxer doesn't know how to work on the ground.
xxdrextonxx 5 months ago
@xxdrextonxx Ok take manny he would annihilate a mma fighter b/c look at manny's background he grew up in poverty he grew up not eating much, being alone in santo's city, pro boxer at the age of 16 and fighting men. Take a guy like that and put him in a rin with mma rules, if tht mma guys puts his hands no lie he would get hit right on top of the head and get knocked out, but different weight classes, heavy\ weights, aint no fucking mma is gunna beat a boxer. boxer hits way to hard.
crazyben108 5 months ago
@crazyben108 hands down to grapple* any boxer would take advantage hit them hard, but it depends on weight class, like tyson vs. brock, i dnt think so. lol, take george foreman thee heaviest hitter in the boxing history in my opinion and rocky marciano, those guys nuh huh. but its how the fighter fights not the art. U learn but when it comes down to it its all up to you.
crazyben108 5 months ago
@crazyben108 im talking about the same weight class, like if the prodigy bj went up against manny manny would lose. honestly all the mma fighter has to do is get on his back and stay there pounding his face in, manny wouldn't know hot to reverse that position. and i get the whole grew up poor background but seriously come on, thats how most samoans grow up on the island of samoa. i really dont know how growing up poor would really change it, its about the heart not the background.
xxdrextonxx 5 months ago
@xxdrextonxx no im rlly not, i respect mma but i have been thru both, i did taekwondo, judo and learned to mix it up and i will put up my vids of my wrestling and gone to the states and nat. i have been fighting for 6 1/2 yrs of fighting and now im doing boxing b/c it demands being tough it demands not going down on a body shot ebing relentless and it teaches u the pain, it teaches u the heart to get up, boxing is a humble sport, but manny, watch him with no gloves on, speed manny will
crazyben108 5 months ago
@xxdrextonxx throw like speed crazy, bj would not kno wtf to do he would panick at the hand speed of manny, boxing is very demanding, they dont get paid millions of dollers for nothing, and to tell u the truth the only thing a boxer needs to know when fighting a mma fighter, use speed, plant ur feet move ur feet to dodge the kicks, it would be a challage for a boxer but manny is the p4p and would pick off a mma guy with a 6 punch combo with mma gloves? idnt bj would want to throw bak lol
crazyben108 5 months ago
@crazyben108 once i again i bring the fact back up that bj would just have to take him down, hes also a black belt in brazilian ju jitsu. all he has to do is rush through the punches which would be easy grab his legs pick him up and take him down, from there its an automatic win. and the only reason they are paid millions is because more people watch boxing than ufc and mma which makes no sense cause ufc is twice as entertaining to watch, its the true aspect of fighting.
xxdrextonxx 5 months ago
A boxer worth his salt would never go in this to start with -- they get paid far more money in Boxing.. Why take the risk? Tyson was a brawler before boxer. I'd like to see him in the cage....
utubeewen 7 months ago
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JAGIhnk 7 months ago
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there is no arguement to be had, nobody wants to see two dudes punch each other in the face for twelve rounds anymore. They have 6 billion titles that mean jack shit. Ring Magazine has a boxing title, McDonalds prob has one, its nuts. And you've got boxers just hugging each other an entire fight, a la, hopkins vs Pascal. I LOVE boxing, but the truth is MMA fighters are NOT the terrible strikers of the old UFC days. Its a more well rounded, technical game filled with pro boxing level strikers
ageeeeeeeeee 8 months ago
An MMA fighter will never truly understand what it is to be a true warrior. You can't put techno and pop together to make good music. They could only do well separately. Each fighting art is tailored to different types of people. Calling yourself a mixed martial artist is like telling people you're an indecisive prick. If you are a easy going guy with high energy then find a specific style that reflects that.
ChrisStohl 8 months ago
@ChrisStohl Really?
TheOpinionatedPerson 8 months ago
@TheOpinionatedPerson Yup
ChrisStohl 8 months ago
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ChrisStohl 8 months ago
@ChrisStohl
Go tell that to Bruce Lee.
DragonLee3 8 months ago
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ChrisStohl 8 months ago
@DragonLee3 don't think Bruce was an MMA fighter. Also MMA fighters are the red mages of the fighting arts. Good at allot of things but masters of nothing.
ChrisStohl 8 months ago
@DragonLee3 but bruce lee was a real martial artist where mma fighter just brawl with no skill they just throw any random punch and kick and hope for the best the knockouts in mma are just lucky and random where the ones in boxing or traditional martial arts are skillful
elmoskater 8 months ago
@elmoskater Have you ever watched MMA? Sure, some are brawlers I'll admit, but go watch the video of Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin, and then tell me if those punches were all luck.
BotheredShadow 8 months ago
@BotheredShadow yes i have i like mma but its no where near as good as boxing and i watched that fight they are random punches and talk about shit defence they dont even have there hand at the face
elmoskater 8 months ago
@elmoskater They don't have huge gloves like boxers do. Put your fist next to your head, and tell me that'd be enough to stop a really powerful punch or headkick. Sway or dodge is always safer for mma fighters. Plus, if you kept your hands up the whole time, you'd probably get taken down. They have so much more to worry about than any boxer, that no matter what they're doing, something is always left open to attack.
BotheredShadow 8 months ago
@BotheredShadow it would be enough u take to kick or punch with your hand and they cant dodge forr shit boxers duck and weav so fast and u can keep ur hands up and knee someone in the face when they go to take u down
elmoskater 8 months ago
TO continue, I actually like and respect MMA (especially the Gracie brand of BJJ). But it is fools who keep saying that this is the ULTIMATE -- and consequently, learn nothing else, is what is now turning me off from the sport. It is JUST A SPORT, with rules. Get a grip. An MMA practitioner will not win against a BOXER, if boxing rules are applied. And the converse is true. In a STREET FIGHT? Those who know the most will win, and that means not just BJJ/grappling.
dondiemarte 9 months ago
Boxers will not last 1 min in an MMA match? No MMA practitioner has become world champion in boxing (where there is MORE MONEY). The current rules in MMA favors BJJ (and wrestling). No small joint manipulation, no fish-hooking, etc. MMA is still just a sport and nowhere near the real thing. Someone pulls a ballpoint pen, and your grappling technique doesn't matter. And that's just a pen. Point is, STOP dissing on other "martial arts". And do not confuse a SPORT for a MARTIAL ART.
dondiemarte 9 months ago
You people are confusing two completely different sports (they are both sports, not "real fighting"), then ALSO confusing marketing versus reality. If "boxing is dead", why are the top fighters in boxing paid several times more per fight than top MMA guys? Boxing isn't dead, the promoters have maimed it. When I grew up, you could see M.Ali fight on saturday on abc for free, like spike does with re-runs of mma. It is just different. Get a grip.
kenfo0 10 months ago
@kenfo0 yup boxing isn't even close to dead, it just doesn't have the buzz that mma has because of the audience. It's like baseball, there's not as much hype but it's still the highest paid sport in the US.
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BabeiMarlysaa416 10 months ago 8
the only thing I don't like about UFC is the gloves they should be heavier, makes more interesting fights than one second knock outs, I mean someone trips, and boom they hammer you will the ref stops it. what sort of fight is that. no skill needed.
ghosalmartin 1 year ago
why should Boxing be compaired with MMA ,, boxing has got some class. Boxing is the ultimate competion between two men which tests their power, stamina, courage and confidence. UFC is just two brainless men trying to harm each other. Boxing has the History and has a better future..!
02itzram 1 year ago
@02itzram ufc is martial artsit dose is close thing you have to a real fight n mma been around long as boxing look pankration was over 1000 years old n thats the first mma mma is ufc if you dont no n so true how come boxers to in mma n can even last 1 mins
treverpitts 1 year ago 3
@treverpitts Pankration and MMA aren't the same. Evidense that Pankration once existed was discovered and now MMA fans are deciding that it's the same as what they do. MMA as it is today is brand new and it wasn't derived from Pankration. Evidence of Pankration was found, meaning it died off at one point, while boxing stayed around for centuries. Let's hope MMA doesn't suffer the same fate.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC u forgot about vale tudo
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@treverpitts - mma is nothing like a real fight. grappling won't help you if you get jump. they will just kick you in the head and keep doing it til your out.
TheGILBERTnetwork 10 months ago
@TheGILBERTnetwork ok if mma not like a real fight then . thing all street fights dont have people getting jumped alot of the time its one on one n it dose not just stay on the free . if i no bjj i can throw a guy down n chock him out JOHN JONES ufc fight double leg takedown on some dude who robed some one n got him in a leg lock in the middle of new york so it dose work
treverpitts 10 months ago 3
@treverpitts Please mate, learn to type.. really. MMA and Boxing are two different beast. But for someone who has done both. If you pin an MMA against a Boxer, the boxer will have a lot of short cumming as he is not trained to parry kicks or even kick. Nor is he trained to fight on the ground. But that MMA guy needs to watch for the power punches. If he can parry or even block them and take the fight to the ground, I'm sorry to say that it's over for the boxer.
Raindarsus 9 months ago
Tradition has nothing to do with it. Barbarism has nothing to do against it. it's two completely different sports with different rule sets. One is more rounded than the other though in term of physical abilities and techniques. I'm not talking of wannabes that just go out and throw punches and punches and kicks without thinking. If you watch good MMA fighters, you'll see that there is techniques and tactics.
Raindarsus 9 months ago
I'll also remind the boxers fan here, that before the 50's where stricter rules were implemented, boxing was a very very barbaric sports even to the eyes of the people who went to see the fights. Fights often went to the 15 rounds and more leading to sever injuries to the boxers and even deaths. And the use of gloves were only really enforced when the Queensberry rules came to be in 1867. Before that most of the boxing matches were done barehanded which resulted in a lot of facials injuries.
Raindarsus 9 months ago
The modern boxing gloves are meant to protect the hands more than to protect the opponent, although they do reduce the facial injuries. They do nothing to protect the head injuries. In fact since the introduction of the modern boxing gloves, head injuries have become even more common as it permits the boxer to hit with more strength without little risk of injuring his hands. So again, both sports are brutal. Both have their own set of rules.
Raindarsus 9 months ago
And who ever made this video shouldn't quit his day job. Extremely poor editing job.
Raindarsus 9 months ago
@TheGILBERTnetwork MMA is as close to a real fight as is possible without people getting maimed. A highly skilled MA has an EXCELLENT chance at beating down a common hood rat. Look at kimbo slice. Seemed pretty tough in the streets, got his ass handed to him in the ring. Now, if you are trying to say "don't purposefully go to the ground in a street fight", then yes. Once there, it's better to know what to do than not.
kenfo0 10 months ago
@TheGILBERTnetwork UFC is not a reflection of what real street violence is. In the UFC and other organizations there are many rules for the fighters safety. But, it is the closest thing to reality. MMA encompasses all fighting styles or techniques that you wish to employ. Where as boxing is just one aspect of what a true mix martial artist might choose to practice.
TheIjames 9 months ago
And for the boxing fans that say that all MMA is a bunch of redneck white guys with tats and piercings rolling around on the floor. They are just caught in the same kind of stale mate that boxers find themselves in a clinch. The difference here is they have more options. When you have two equally skilled grapplers fighting on the floor, every movement they make is a counter move, and a movement towards setting up a submission hold of some kind, no matter how rediculous it may look.
TheIjames 9 months ago
@TheGILBERTnetwork You ever seen a "real" fight? 99% of them grab eachothers shirts and roll on the ground. and fine stomp somone who knows Jitz or sambo... be warned you will get your leg broken. also... se what roger huerta thought of "real" fighting
Spaitin 8 months ago
@TheGILBERTnetwork google "MMA vs Street fighter" and watch all the videos
jcruz04 7 months ago
@TheGILBERTnetwork Boxing wont help you either if you get jumped
ARandomCanadian 7 months ago
@treverpitts Your comment is also stupid. You can't name 1 top of the food chain boxer in his prime who has fought in MMA. Not one. Why? Why would they risk their $1-20million per fight paycheck to make $800k in MMA? That would be stupid. People do not understand how incredibly hard pro boxers hit. They think, "one time when I was six a girl slapped me...I'm tough". Every time you move up in a sport from amateur to pro to top of pros, it is a whole different world.
kenfo0 10 months ago
@treverpitts ive seen boxers beat mma fighters and mma fighters beat boxers but mike tyson would smash any mma fighter to ever live
elmoskater 8 months ago
@02itzram So your saying that boxers aren't trying to harm each other ? Get real man its a fight.
julianisdope 1 year ago
@02itzram Boxing fans who flame mma generally have no knowledge of the ground game or how intricate it really is. I mean boxing is a great sport and it is a science of offense and defense and stylistic match ups. But an MMA fighter can be just as methodic and intelligent if not more because of the fact that boxing is simply one facet of mixed martial arts and there is a much greater variety of threats to you in the octagon.
ambartrew 11 months ago
@02itzram Brainless? Your fucking retarded. I could say the same for boxing and I'd be every bit as wrong as you are about MMA. Hell MMA requires more skill than boxing being that your not limited to just your fist, and have to worry about grappling, and getting your face kicked in. I wont argue that boxing doesn't require skill(because it does), but MMA is every bit as much of a test of power stamina courage, and confidence as boxing is.
trusttruth1985 11 months ago
@02itzram wtf are you talking about? Boxing is DEAD and lol to the "2 brainless men trying to harm eachother", then what are boxers doing? drinking tee? actually brainless is exactly how boxers en up, taking so many fucking hits to the head. As much as i like box, it's a dying sport.
Hemestal 10 months ago
@02itzram your comment is stupid. sadly, on the mma side, there are people who are just as stupid who just like to see someone get hurt, but those assclowns/fairies watch boxing too. They are not in competition, they are two different sports. Boxing rules came about so people could fight w/o getting maimed. MMA does this (they were forced) through strict rules (no head-butting, fish hooks, spine locks, etc which were all part of prize fights originally). Boxing promoters killed boxing.
kenfo0 10 months ago
@02itzram you know nothing about martial arts. Brainless is putting on 12oz gloves and neglecting 95% of your capabilities and spending 12 rounds bashing each other in the head. Mixed Martial Arts has intricacies universes beyond what a boxer could understand.
zakquack 9 months ago
@02itzram Really brainless idiots, Fedor Emlianenko is not brainless he is humble your a stereotype who thinks all people who fight in MMA are brainless idiots who go in a ring to beat each other. I train in both boxing and MMA i know both arts and let me tell you both take alot of heart, courage and confidence!!!!
JACKSMMA 8 months ago
@02itzram i fail to see how MMA doesnt use Stamina Power andcourage as well. you can argue that Boxing has less courage and power tho... considering boxing has the weaker strikes. punches are the weakest strike a man can throw. I.e. elbows knees and kicks. MMA is a little bit morethan half caught up to boxing... and MMA is 20 years old. boxing has been a pro sport for about 6x longer... you see the comparison
Spaitin 8 months ago
@02itzram Mike tyson is a brainless moron with a self described strategy of imflicting harm... same with toney.... so i dont think the brainlessa rgument is a good one to make if yyour a boxer. considering that the % of fighters in MMA who have college degrees is 8 times higher than boxing.....
Spaitin 8 months ago
@02itzram Lol poor ignorant, MMA is a combination of the best martial arts, there is no chance a boxer will win a fight, MMA have submision, boxing can only go for points or knockouts, lol besides if a boxer loose his balance or felt down by accident, they stop the fight GAAAAY, in MMA you have to know how to deffend ur self on the floor, in fack if u r good enough u can win. Moron dont talk nonsense, u r an idiot, I respect boxing but there is no chance, just there isnt
necrossisnk1 8 months ago
@necrossisnk1 submission is for faggs and mma thinks there martial artist if u watch a real martial artist there way faster and more skill ful mma fighters throw bigg sloppy wild punches and dont have good defense and they kick sloopy like a retard were if u watch a taaekowndo etc fighter they kick fast and good
elmoskater 8 months ago
@elmoskater You're typing makes you sound like a retard
BotheredShadow 8 months ago
@elmoskater OK so the question is a Pro Boxer of 165 pounds can Defeat a Pro MMA fighter of 165 pounds?, thats the question. I practice Taekwondo its a beutifull art, but is only that belive me, most of this fighters are awesome kickers but when you trow a kick your oponent can grab your leg and kick your fcking ass, so think twice before saying something like they dont kick a lot, there is a reason why they dont do it, and stop beliving all that Hollywood shit is not true
necrossisnk1 7 months ago
@02itzram Boxing has a future?
BotheredShadow 8 months ago
@02itzram if a boxer steps into a cage with a mma fighter yes he has a bigger chance to knock him out with a punch but the mma fighter can do longer range attacks like kicks or take down the boxer to the floor where the boxer has no experience at all
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ICWpresents 1 year ago
my opinion is that MMA beats boxing 5 out of 5....
if the fight goes to the ground between the two wtf is boxing going to do??MMA wins,and if the fight stays on the feet boxers can punch and???thats about it. nope that is it.
and what can MMA do you ask???leg kicks, body kicks,head kicks..etc ,all the punches boxers and more...plus elbows, flying elbows,flying punches, oh and lets not for get submissions,which can be done on the ground or standing,like chokes,leg locks,arm locks,arm bars. etc.
4020just 1 year ago
What the fuck is UFC vs Boxing? UFC is not a fighting style.
mnewf2002 1 year ago
fu7cking dumbass is boxing vs mm not ufc is like saying boxing vs nfl
SupremeARA915 1 year ago
joe is full of shit mma is cool but its not on the same level as boxing not even kick boxers cant fight like a true pro boxer elite boxer punch like sharp shooters and move sharp as a knife mma fighters punch like drunk street fighters and move the same way lol
drugwhore 1 year ago
@drugwhore boxers are slow and only fast in a BOXING MATCH.
ageeeeeeeeee 1 year ago
@ageeeeeeeeee ask tim sylvia who got knocked out by one punch by a old washed up ray mercer if boxers are slow not only are they fast they hit harder then any mma fighter even tim sylvia said after the fight he has never got hit harder in his life then how hard ray hit him and if you watch the fight ray did not even put hit full power into the shot lol i like mma but face it there all punks that hold to death and not only cant punch but they cant take a punch
drugwhore 1 year ago
@drugwhore tim was washed up too. he was defeaed by fedor in 10 seconds. tim could never take a punch randy KNOCKED HIM DOWN RANDY!!!. so yeah thanks for taking out tim we hated him. remember ray and kimbo. mma gloves r diferent than boxing gloves
ageeeeeeeeee 1 year ago
@ageeeeeeeeee more like 50 somthing seconds
drugwhore 1 year ago
@drugwhore boxing is slow compared to mma fighters. remember kimbo beating ray. no boxer will last in the ufc remember randy and toney. besides tim didnt take him seriously if he would of he would of knocked out ray
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 true boxing is slow.... mma is a fast sport and to tell you the truth it is highly unbalanced there is nothing you can say that can change that fact boxing is a perfect sport built over 100s of years mma is a mess a joke somebody made on a drunk Friday boxing is a perfect sport mma is fun but broken its also boring alot of the time and weak the fighters 9 times out of 10 look like bums who cant even punch in a boxing ring they could not beat the worst boxer ask anderson silva
drugwhore 1 year ago
@drugwhore you do realize the ufc was created in 92 by brazilians to show what bjj is? silva was a muay thai fighter b4 going into boxing. he also did shit in his 5 mma fights. plus that was over 10 years ago fighters improve.in that case james toney represents boxing which everyone cant even take out washed up randy
ageeeeeeeeee 1 year ago
@ageeeeeeeeee washed up randy is a bum he did the classic mma pussy move fight a guy at what there worst at not what there best at im sorry dude in a boxing you cant fight a man at what there worst at you must fight that at there best
drugwhore 1 year ago
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gnrsux2 1 year ago
@drugwhore ur an idiot. if a striker and a grappler fought in mma rules wats the grappler gonna do clinch wats the striker gonna do strike idiot. i like to see u call james toney a pussy for not tryng to wrestle randy. second of all mma is a sport from wat ur sayin fight like a man boxing is a street fight
ageeeeeeeeee 1 year ago
@drugwhore ur an idiot boxing was made for betting and entertainment. mma is actualy older than boxing
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 mma is fun but a broken sport its also to fast and most of the time is just so funny to watch in mma you could watch dude punch like crazy and not land one blow you can also watch dude walk around for 4min and not even punch or kick or even move there head then after 4 min they shoot in to put a guy on the cage what a fucking bum sport
drugwhore 1 year ago
@drugwhore lol at ur comment. boxing is a bum sport now only 2 big names and it looks like a hugfest and dancing for 12 rounds. boxing isnt a sport its pure entertainment. but hey its fun to watch 2 men beat each other up with hands giving them brain damage later on.
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 dude are you dumb mma is a bum sport where a wwe acter can beat the so called best boxing is a raver sharp sport you can be a bum and fight at pro in boxing in mma you can go to pro level with no fights under your belt now thats what i call bum fest and your calling boxing a hug fest lol shut the fuck up i lost count of how many mma fights look more like a hug contest then a fight i have seen mma fighter where the dudes hug for 25 min lol bum sport
drugwhore 1 year ago
@drugwhore u do realize brock was an ncaa div 1 wrestling champion with a record of 106-5. in boxing anyone can be champion thats why there r over 100 belts in a weight class. i seen boxers with no record go into pro boxing like manny pacman. i seen so many hugfests in boxing its boring. why is that shane couldnt put away shaq huh answer that fag. u call floyd a p4p wen all he does is dance and beat up women pathetic.
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 Shane Mosley= 5'9" and somewhere around 140lbs, Shaq= 7'1" 325lbs. It was an exhibition for a TV show!!!! I would like to see Anderson Silva fight Shaq.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@drugwhore lol a b um sport i seen bums all over the place they hate mma they like boxing and do it. tyson a criminal bernard a criminal went into boxing became champions.
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@drugwhore boxing cant even put up fights people want to see they give people bullshit one sided fights for 60 $. when that fight happens ( u know the fight) it will be somewat popular again which it will never happen so have fun living in the past the new generation loves mma
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 Only people who aren't boxing spectators are sayng that boxing isn't putting up fights people wanna see. Even if that fight (u know the fight) doesn't happen soon, Pacquiao is facing Mosley soon which will be a good fight and may be a big upset. But you can still see great boxing matches on HBO, Showtime, Versus, FSD, and ESPN if one would want to see a boxing match and not just a show blown up by the media.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC dude i watch boxing alot. the only time i hear about it is ppv witch is u know who.
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 How can you watch boxing if there are only two people that you hear about, and they aren't even fighting eachother. How can you watch boxing alot without hearing about Andre Ward, Andre Dirrell, Chad Dawson, Paul Williams, David Haye or the Klitschos?!! Either you aren't watching or you're just in denial.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC because there arent any good boxers anymore the last good boxer worth watching was lennox.i cant stand floyd and his dancing manny is just destroyng everyone. klitckos are a joke.
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 If you don't like or aren't entertained by the fighters I named then maybe boxing just isn't your thing. And that is understandable, you have a right to your own preference. But your opinion doesn't necessarily represent the worlds opinion. My opinion doesn't either, but I do know that boxing is still doing well and is getting better with time. There are hungry fighters coming up and it's getting competitive. I suggest people observe and appreciate both sports. Thats what I do.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC boxing is not even tryng to hype up other boxers which is sad.
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 That my friend is true. But thats because most of the organizing and managing is done within the fighters camp. You dont have a big company negotiating and arranging certain fights, everyone is for themselves so to speak. Everything is put together by managers and promoters. But in MMA everything is done within the organization, which makes it good for business to promote every fighter. Boxers aren't necessarily comitted to any organization, so it wouldn't make since to promote them.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC see whats wrong? mma is learning from boxings mistakes and different advertising. boxing needs to learn stars arent born there made
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 MMA is learning from boxings mistakes. But it hasnt seen the success of boxing. That doesn't mean that it won't, but it is still learning. MMA started with UFC, many don't know that. Pankration was similar but wasn't MMA. Though sensational, it may be underdeveloped to be compared to boxing as a business. Boxing should be marketed better. Its just that HBO only markets HBO events and likewise with Showtime and PPV. They don't benefit from eachother and they dont care about the fighters.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC actualy it has passed boxings popularity. manny is saving boxing he is the old school guy not careing bout money
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 Popularity and success arent one and the same. And besides, it may be popular, and growing, but it isn't as popular as boxing has been in the past. And notice that I continue to remind you that boxing is starting to get exciting again. If you have the time. check out Sergio Martinez, Chad Johnson, Paul Williams, Timothy Bradley, or Andre Ward. Manny won't have to hold that weight much longer. By the way have Forrest Griffen and Rich Franklin fought yet?
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC they fight ufc 126. and i have watched those boxers boxing has gone downhill in popularity. it hasnt gone up at all the average person still doesnt know who they are. they know who manny is. and the sad thing is mike tyson is known as the ear biter. until the hangover. as long as the ufc (MMA) is around so is boxing if 1 dies the other dies
gnrsux2 1 year ago
@gnrsux2 You're right. Most of those guys aren't known outside of the boxing community. Likewise I think that there are alot of good maybe even great MMA fighters who aren't well known outside of the MMA community. I also agree that it's sad that Tyson became the character that he was instead of the great champion he could have been. And I know MMA is here to stay but I will appreciate it alot more when trend following fans lose interest. They give true fans like you and I a bad name.
PREMODOGMATIC 1 year ago
@PREMODOGMATIC exaclty. just like rock music has taken a fall.
gnrsux2 1 year ago
boxing is much better.
Gorideyurbike 1 year ago
@Gorideyurbike joe is full of shit mma is cool but its not on the same level as boxing not even kick boxers cant fight like a true pro boxer elite boxer punch like sharp shooters and mma fighters punch like drunk street fighters lol
drugwhore 1 year ago
Boxers think they're big shit until they get knee'd to the torso or get their legs chopped by massive swing kicks. GG Boxing lol
JVThrillz 1 year ago
how stupid are you? ufc is not a fighting style, its just a club where people with different fight styles come together to show off their fighting skills.
FallingRabbit 1 year ago
this guy is stupid....I can go in a cage match boxing and come out a winner against an mma fighter or a ufc fighter....people don't understand much if they aren't the fighters,it's all on how you use your fighting style...if your really good at boxing you can use it to win any fight it's all on the person...timing your opponent and using your skills effectively is the key to any fight...I know from experience I've been in the ring with a mma fighter that was a descent fighter too...and I won
TroubleJ1 1 year ago
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xCaptainAroniousx 1 year ago
this is shitty.. video is making me sick cause dude cant hold the camera still.. PUT THE CAMERA DOWN U FUCKING IDIOT WHY ARE U STANDING THERE HOLDING THE CAMERA INFRONT OF THE TV LIKE A FUCKING GEEK
xCaptainAroniousx 1 year ago
i love the video and all shit but! ahh love more the girls at the end :P
pussygod69 1 year ago
o i have no doubbt more have but thats just 3, people in boxing die of punch drunk, killed in ring by conditioning from exhausted or dehydrated, or heat stroke , boxing would be more than just a dangerous sport if the broughten rules where brought back
crazyben108 1 year ago
Boxing is alot more dangerous than mma because once you get knocked down you can get bak up and more people have died in boxing than mma only one person has died in mma 7000 fights including pro and amature boxing people die from either getting hit to hard or they use to from conditioning in old school rules where bouts would 25-30 rounds and was 15 but ppls kept die'ing and now its 10 rounds reg bout
crazyben108 1 year ago
@crazyben108 actually there are now 3 people that have died in MMA i think
pantydisco 1 year ago
one of these days someone will die from this sport. Its matter of time. Its closest to street fighting and you know street fighting can end up fatal
yonisfarah 1 year ago
@yonisfarah
Whats street fighting?
Lmao street fighting got weapons and more people involved
No rules no gloves and 100% theres gonna be weapons
veothrax 1 year ago
@veothrax what about robots
pantydisco 1 year ago
One could write volumes on the misconceptions that boxing-only, and MMA-only fans have about each others respective favorite sport. The fact is, the two generally don't know crap about the other. One is not harder than the other; they are both super tough, yes, in MMA you have to do more, and that is challenging, but boxing, also kick-boxing, etc. are limited by design, which presents a different kind of challenge.
MrN0Bias 1 year ago
This debate is played out; some people just prefer boxing, some prefer MMA, and some like both. You're not going to talk someone out of their opinion. Who cares which sport is tougher, it's which one you personally find more entertaining. As well, neither sport is going to die. They are both doing well. I personally respect both.
MrN0Bias 1 year ago 2
comparing boxing to mma is like comparing a punting competition to a football game. boxing is simply a component of mma
spud8876 1 year ago
@spud8876
It is? When, do you suppose, we'll actually start to see some then?
PubliusAfricanus 1 year ago
Muhammed Ali beat all the mma fighters!!!!!!!!!
youri901 1 year ago
@offsprings1337 Than get the fuck out of here pussy.
PlagueRiddenGoat 1 year ago
MMA will beat boxing by majority. Boxing is just punches as to MMA being punches, kicks, knees, elbows, takedowns, submissions, etc. If a MMA fighter can stand with the boxer, he/she will. If they can't, they'll take it to the ground. Simple. MMA can include boxing but boxing will never consist of martial arts.
boomdude 1 year ago
@boomdude kosckeck vs daily GSP VS HARDY BOXING IS SHIT
VSM101 1 year ago
@PubliusAfricanus i agree mma sucks
dopeboy6763 1 year ago
you do know that UFC is an organization, not a fighting style
senario4 1 year ago 37
@senario4 I train UFC
silantbill 1 year ago