you should have used the sp wep at 8:5... there were so many of em, if u used ur sp they wud all dieeee... just press select to switch btween norm. missiles and SPW.
I wanna know why ACE COMBAT ZERO doesnt have the camera mode like that, In AC Zero, this camera looks smaller. Now, Ace Combat 6 has a nice camera mode because you can see everything beside you, without needing move the camera to side..
The way people here think that a video game could actually represent an accurate simulation of a flight just makes me laugh. Both video games do not use the real time flight models, so if the argument here is that one game is better than the other because of the so-called flight model, it is a ridiculous thought. these games are arcade video games with gfx vectoring that dictates movement. real flight sims dont. anyone looking for real time physics simulation is wasting time in these video games
i have never believed that a video game can accurately present real life physics. those who do are idiots. that's the whole argument, in case you missed it. its simple, if they want the "flight model" to be accurate, why not go join the air force or play in a sim.blockheads read what they wrote.
yes but read my old posts. its realistic not in terms of game play or physics, but that it features real world maps and real planes instead of concept planes. some people do care about that, but some people love to bitch about realistic physics, "flight models" and expect the planes in the game to conform to the laws of physics, or some are moronic fanboys who trash games without playing it, and forget what they wrote just a day ago. I agree with you. i just tell them to get a goddamn simulator
Oh alright. Well, Geoeye really is a nice touch to add realism I give you that, but they have to do a better job when using it, because it gets ugly when you zoom in. I expect a little more depth given that it happens in Tom Clancy's world. How about more Ghost Recon integration?
no I agree. they could have done a better job with texture when you zoom in, but that's about the only time the game looks bad. overall the graphics are good. they actually are working on HAWX 2, on a video a guy posted a comment saying his dad was a project manager for this game in Romania. I asked him, he said that UBISOFT Romania may not be working on it but HAWX 2 is definitely a WIP. I hope they add more depth.
and more of a sim. the game had so much potential to be a great sim considering the amount of planes, the awesome graphics(in the air and on the plane models) but one more thing i wish was take offs and landings. but i think they should have gone sim instead of over the top arcade
The usual console player dont like to bother with learning how to play, they just want to hack and slash. So selling will go better with an arcade rather than a sim.
Thats why flightsim players stick to PC, among other things off course.
I play consoles but love simulators. For me a big part of it is I dont have the money to buy all those drivers and stuff people talk about or the foggiest about how to use them or anything lol. With consoles you just plug in and turn on and pay usually once. I wish I knew more or had the cash. I think it puts people off a little bit which is a shame as there are great simulators out there.
Whats that in sterling? Also I know there are a few out there if you look but can you see my point how, to the layman, PC gaming is more baffling then the plug n go of the console? I mean things like files and ram and stuff, its jargon to some people. I don't think they get made user friendly so much. Im semi-clued up on it but when people list the specs you need and things, im just like woah!
the thing is, I dont know about pcs to much and I dont want to have to do anything where i have to take parts out or in and end up breaking it lol. I mean to people who know their stuff it sounds silly but i think some people like me fear the updating and stuff of pc games. Plus the cost to run the next game at its best mounts.
I kinda get your point, but a PC is nothing you can break when your building or upgrading it.
It's not like a car engine thats mechanical. I used to fear PC's before I got into them around 10 years ago, so I know what your talking about.
I also watch a bunch of "DIY" videos on YouTube and they suck hard becuase they make you scared... Hell, I even worry when I watching videos like that. They talk so much crap about danger, its creapy.
On a motherboard for example. You have slots. One for a graphics card, a few for RAM and one for a CPU.
In this case, you can never get mixed up when building a PC, becuase everything is differenet from one another. Even the RAM. You can't put the RAM in the wrong way around becuase its impossible, it won't allow you to becuase each side is different.
Building a PC is like cubes. They all fit perfectly. Nothing can bend or break. = Perfect fit.
Aye all right, I never thought it was that simple, yet I admit ive never had the cash for it. The thing is though, its ok to say it but the doings a bit different, I mean gotta start somewhere but i work on my pc too and i couldnt afford to break it or have to pay for repairs as i took it apart you see. can you see how i mean with a console you pay once and its all done?
People talk of i7 CPU's and all these exepensive shit that they never need.
For example, a simple Quad Core Q6600 and 4GB's of RAM. And a 9800GT would play better then any console on the market. And these parts came out in 2006-2007.
It's all about ebay baby. You can build a bugdet high end PC "today" for cheaper then a console.
I see where your coming from, but to be honest, it is kinda your fault for going to wall-mart and picking up an office PC which WILL need upgrades every year. :D
I see you live in the U.K. So instead of wall-mart I take it you went to PC World :) PC World is even worse.
They sell you out-of-date techlogy as "super fast" PC's. I was in London a few months back and they tried to sell me a crappy Celeron Dual Core PC with a "massive" (lol) 1GB of RAM for £299. I was like... Fuck you!
Wal-Mart/Asda here dont really do much in the way of computers and its extremely poor what they do. PC World is a rip off , always after money and yea, they have old stuff but most people buy it thinking its just plug in and go. There isnt a huge mainstream choice in reality here which is annoying.
I mean knowing about a PC is like knowing about anything,if your in the know,u know best brands,best price/how to install,like a mechanic knows the best parts/price and how to,a surgeon knows his job.i mean i admit i never looked in hard but again its the worry of breaking my pc. Sounds like ebay would be the good choice and part of this is my own unawareness but I just think on the whole, with regards to being user friendly, pc modifications are difficult and costly (or at least sound it).
Yes you are right, it was a big simplification on my side to call it flight dynamics model. Still we can argue about differences of movement in both these arcade games. I think its more a matter of naming in this case, but certainly you have a point.
Considerable experience with flight dynamics is a requirement, in order to understand the samples and make qualitative changes to them.
However, such flight model is not used in these video games, neither HAWX, or AC series. These systems are found in flight simulators, not these video games. In the game, AI programming sets constraints on the movement and transformation of graphics, and any changes in coordinates is not because of a set flight model, but rather, the logical location.
I have been observing this back and forth conversations about what game is better, and it is hilarious and ridiculous, because both sides are wrong about many things. Just to clear the confusion, flight dynamics data, in the form of coefficients and data tables, that determine the flying qualities of an aircraft. A number of samples are provided, that can be used as the basis for new flight models.
Hawx is more realistic in terms of the overall feel. it has real life locations, unlike Ace's fake countries. gameplay is basically the same and slightly more fun to play than Ace. you have to play it to know about it.
Nothing beats Snoopy vs. The Red Baron, though. lol
Ace Combat has a world invented by a namco directors and designers team, they had to invent names of countries and fake maps, had creative ideas... hawx do not, they just take the real world
Ace Combat has a biggest Soundtrack production, you can fly with that music, it has no comparison, check it out I invite you on my channel... hawx do not, they just take the modern soundtrack concept music
Ace combat has concept planes, that have been designed by a very creative designers team... hawx do not
well some people care more for authenticity and realism. I like innovation, but authenticity is more important to me than it is probably to you, that is why you are content with fake maps and concept planes, and I like the realistic and real world locations and real planes. its just a matter of preference. you should at least give the full game a shot. rent it.
innovation? hawx game is based on a novel(is very good but), Ace Combat is based on namco designers and directors ideas, authenticity? hawx "world" is only USA territory, Ace Combat world is an authentic world invented by same guys... what's 'innovation' and 'authenticity' here?: CONCEPT SUPER PLANES & CUSTOM MAPS, and all things that I been talkin, like soundtracks, Ace Combat is better
you need a fact check. I said that authenticity is more important to me than innovation. that sentence means that Hawx is not as innovative as Ace Combat, but you failed to understand that meaning. second thing you are wrong about: HAWX is not just USA territory. it takes place in Tokyo, Brazil, Mexico and the Middle East. 3rd you have no clue what the word authenticity means. a real world location is authentic; a created world is not. fifa is mor authentic than winning 11: more real licenses.
demo version for PC only includes USA territory (sorry :D)... ok we're videogame players, so we don't care about who invented the real world, so what's authenticity for me: games that they invent a world for us to play, but ok you win "...Hawx is not as innovative as Ace Combat" soo, Ace Combat is much Better
yes and by that innovation I mean fictional planes and fictional maps that you happen to love. Yes, Hawx is based on Ace Combat game play. But it adds realism by adding more real, licensed planes and real world maps using Geo-eye. that is differentiation. It ads ERS to make things a little different and interesting. it features better graphics. the product are of the same category, but they are different enough that without trying the full game, your attempt to trash one game is stupidity.
"little different and little interesting" = Hawx, Ace Combat is the king and father and much better then Hawx, belive me I saw last mission this morning and I got no comments, search it on youtube "hawx last mission", is kinda booored, Ace Combat 2 mission was too many difficult, stressed and
entertaining than that, Hawx has better graphics on cinematics only,
but if you fly at 300 feet in both games, you will see what is BETTER GRAPHICS, Ace Combat 6 beats again
yeah you keep you tubing the game videos and base your judgments on those videos instead of playing the game itself, while I enjoy me some Hawx. Ciao.
Personaly I dont have any troubles with a bit of fiction in Ace Combat world, especialy since its mainly based on real one, and its quite beliveable. As far as realism goes I would be more concerned with how ridiciulous Hawx flight model is. This is a simplified action game ok, but it loses even to AC 3 on PSX, somewhere closer to AC 2 which is more than 10 years old. It feels a lot like a cheap copy from that time. About gfx, Hawx models lack details, I would call it rather poor.
you are entitled to your opinion, and your opinions do not change the facts about Hawx, simply because you are one of those idiots who trash a game without even playing it, which in turn makes your ridiculous comparisons and pathetic opinions irrelevant. never trash a game before playing at least a part of its full version. Now I am gonna leave you to deal with your frustrations, and I will play some Hawx AND some Ace Combat 6.
Insulting words will make your stand more ligitimate. What you call ridiculous comparisions are actualy facts. Hawx models lack details, PC had better almost decade ago. All spectacularity is achieved by masking it with decent texture and some light. Impossible to stall VTOL planes or the wicked way speed affect turning radius arent my definition of realism either. You can go back to your Hawx, if you have fun with it then its fine with me, just dont say jokes like realism or good gfx in Hawx.
I have Hawx for PS3, and no, the AC3 PSX visuals do not beat Hawx PS3 visuals. but again, you wouldn't know that, because neither you own a ps3 nor you have played Hawx full version. most likely, the HAWX demo didn't run well on your low end PC, so yeah, compared to the gfx on your PC, AC 3 on PSX probably is better.
Please put more attention to reading, I never mentioned that AC3 has better gfx than Hawx. I wrote that AC3 has better flight model than Hawx, and as far as gfx goes I compared it to PC standards. Amongs few consoles I do own there is no PS3 right, I have to borrow it from a friend, but thats irrevelant since my PC actualy can run Hawx on max.
as for the realism, this game is arcade, and by realism I mean authentic presentation of licensed jets satellite data, NOT the game play. Ace Combat doesn't abide by the law of physics either. play MS flight sim or join the air force for that purpose.
Yes its arcade, and I already said that in my first post in this topic. However some basic physics are required for game to give player good feel of flying, and make dogfights more exciting. In this matter Hawx is far behind standards of AC and others of this genre like Air Strike Delta. Simplest maneuvers are pain in the ass, not to mention cosmic details like supercruise of all jets or already mentioned impossibillity to stall some of them.
I havent seen even single Hawx gameplay video on youtube nor said anything about using demo version. And why would I play Hawx on console if there is a PC version of it.
there! that obviously means you haven't played the game at all, and you don't know anything about it yet you review and trash something you don't know shit about because you haven't played it. you don't know what you are talking about, so I won't waste my time arguing with you.
No you haven't. you don't know what you are talking about. Go play Hawx full version first. Stop being an idiot and stop trashing a game that you haven't played.
I don't have problem with people giving bad reviews to a game if they have played it. the problem is with fan boys like you badmouth a game without even playing it. In your little world, AC3 models are better than HAWX models, that gave you away. AC3 models are excellent for its generation, but HAWX models are better. I know this, since I have actually played the games. dont bother replying to my post anymore, or feel free to waste your time.
Dont LIE. I have never ever wrote that AC3 models are better. I havent even wrote that ANY AC got better models than Hawx. I did use AC3 only for opinion on flight model. Please either learn how to read or change your pills. Feel free to quote me if Im mistaken.
I never said you were talking about "plane models" . I simply said models, could be flight, or could be plane, and in either case, you are wrong about AC3 being better, because you haven't played Hawx, and then you lie about not saying anything about AC3 model being better than Hawx. I wont waste my time on idiots like you anymore. go play a game before reviewing it, idiot.
Since there is only single flight model, you cant use plural form refering to flight model in certain game. Thank you for proving my point with insults.
no actually thank you for proving my point that you dont know what you are talking about, by focusing on the singulars and plural, because you don't really have a valid point to make. . dont bother replying, as I don't have time to argue with idiots like you who cry about flight MODELS and game physics in ARCADE video games.
Being arcade game doesnt mean that it wont be better (or worse) if it simulate certain effects. It can make a big difference and for reference you can use driving games. Take for extreme example Ridge Racer and Gran Turismo series as both can be called arcade games.
iakny, ace combat 3 dont hav betta flight models than h.a.w.x. fiy, ace combat 3 was 10 years or sumthin ago, and h.a.w.x is much developd and way better
Then you must really suck at playing games, because HAWX maneuvers are easy to pull off. It is one of the easiest games I have ever played. Most people who like to have fun while playing games do not give a shit about whether the physics is real or not. I have played every single Ace Combat game that has ever come out, and I can easily say that HAWX, if not better, is equally as much fun to play as AC 6.
Actualy I kinda live off playing games, mainly FPPs but I think I do decent at other ones too. Anyway please notice that I havent said that I have problems with level of difficulty or pulling off things that are possible. However controling turn radius with speed is a bit useless and even doing YoYos has little sense. In spite of that I never said that Hawx is not fun, nor that people cant have fun playing it. Im just against calling it better with all the shorts it has.
lol ok. sounds much better than your initial baseless trashing of the game. I love AC, and I love Hawx; I just love Hawx more. No game is perfect, and neither is Ace Combat. most people dont have problems with its liberal physics, and the models look good and better than PSX AC3, to me. By the way, Ace Combat X is the single best game ever made for PSP.
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Initial trashing? Matter of standards, especialy since personaly I was waiting for that game due to multiplayer in PC version, and so I had my own expectations. However for me its flight model isnt enough for competitive use. Fun factor is whole different story, and it also depends on how you define it. I keep up what I said, even usage of word ridiciulous, but I never said people wont have fun with it.
Also I havent compared graphics with AC3, but with standards to which Im used on PC.
lol what are you talking about bro? you sound like you are caught up in your own bullshit.
you claim that you haven't compared graphics with AC 3, yet the guy below me quotes you comparing models and calling AC3 models better.
Let this be a wake up call for you. AC3 models are NOT better than HAWX models. If HAWX doesn't run well on your computer, its your computer, not the game.
and please stop saying senseless things and then denying that you didn't. it only makes you look foolish. peace
systems should be compared between a flight and a simulated flight. Video game AI tries to trick you into thinking that what's happening is in real time. The orientation of vector, or misdirection, is compensated but further vector orientation, not by changing the dynamics. A real simulator doesn't compensate for such things if not programmed. a flight is controlled by logic or sequential controls, and feedback or linear controls, or fuzzy logic for physical dynamics
The difference between both systems will still be there. You can implement effect of some forces like that, but root of problem lies in in such basics like developers decision to make some impossible to stall planes. Im still trying to solve the riddle how speed could not affect turning radius. Since I dont think its possible to program it that way, and I based it on ingame situation, it could be just a matter of planes parameters. I would exactly measure it, but I already did thew game away.
OK, so let me say this and finish it. HAWX graphics are better than all previous gen graphics, but not better than AC6. both of you are not going anywhere by arguing back and forth and flight models are irrelevant in a video game.
As for your curiosity, don't tell me that a smart person such as yourself is not smart enough to realize that two people can be on the internet at the same time. there is this, it is called chatting, that happens in real time.
Fair with me. As long as graphics is compared with any AC, even AC6 or other games of that genre I cant say no. I just wanted to point that by any means all that graphic isnt state of art. However just let me say that I find flight model very important.
Two people can be online at same time, but if twice in row they send their reply at almost same time, I would wonder if there is any relation between them. And so I asked. cya
I wont really argue with someone who doesnt understand the meaning of a simple sentence, the words innovation and authenticity, and trashes one game after only playing the demo and not even knowing much about it.
if you want to compare hawx with Ace Combat gameplay, you gotta be kiddin me, did you play White Bird missions on Ace Combat 5? men I played yesterday that mission, men they was just very very exciting...
so.. tell me about Hawx, I got da demo version, it was kinda bored
Man I come right out of just unlocking every thing in ace combat 5 what the heck is an estovaikain? I understand belkans yukes and oseans but what is an estovaikian help!?
if falcon 4 only had the same graphic of this game, but still sticks with the realisim as it is today, it would be a remarkable simulator which will be played by all.
Damn, this game looks good, since it's out for the 360, hopefully eventually they'll port it to PC. The game looks fun, the voice acting is good, but I kinda wish they would do one more anime styled story like Ace Combat 3, that's the best out of all the AC games. And the ground building textures are still kinda bad, they just use HDR to cover it up.
aw come on the gameplay is so so,easy! i mean where are the enemy fighters!wouldnt it be mroe intense if enemy fighters fire a missle on u and u struggle to evade it!
This is one of the 1st user made videos of AC6 Demo. And my intention to make this video was not a skill showcase. I intended to show how AC6 looks like.
Low flying and looking around to show details of terrains. I used more guns than missiles to show close look of explosion effects. Low flyby over bomb exposions at 2:40 as well.
At 5:13, I tracked a B-52 going down. Even with low image quality of YouTube, you can see that this B-52 is on fire, but 3D model of B-52 itself seems undamaged.
This genre of game really got me excited until i saw this vidio, it looks abit boring tbh, surely that cannot be the top speed of the planeduring gameplay? can you change the camera angle so you can see the back of the plane???
For everyone who is wondering about what country this takes place in, look at the text at the top of the screen. They are not saying Ammeria, or America. They are saying GRACEMERIA. Don't believe me, look at the captions at the top of the screen.
The Demo music for the first mission, is better then in the actual game -______-
TheHusseinjoker 5 months ago
Honestly, I liked the demo version of "Invasion of Gracemaria" more than the finished product. Anyone know where I can get it?
RevonZZ 7 months ago
I can do that in HAWX jejejje, the thing on the bridge
bote117 1 year ago
I can do that in HAWX jejejje
bote117 1 year ago
the only thing thats way unrealistic in ace combat is how many missles you have....but ace combats the best-fuck tom clancy games
seminole813 1 year ago
In my opinion,the best "Ace Combat" is the 6(must modern) after 3,why the 3 is the that have very possible(aircrafts,graphics,weapons,etc,...).
GlaucioLiraVCB 1 year ago
I love how the cockpit 8 ball moves accurately. hope they improve this game in 7 and not change it so much it's unrecognizable.
BIGGSjessieWEDGE 1 year ago
is this on ps3
MrUrmom12 1 year ago
@MrUrmom12 no but theres a game called Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X and its on PS3, 360, PC, and iPhone.
I'm getting H.A.W.X 2 when it comes out for PS3
Porsche1080 1 year ago
nice guy! very good xD
Feerlorer 1 year ago
Awesome soundtrack !!! :)
E1N9A8N0DA 1 year ago
over g fighters looks better than this
stock9526 1 year ago
you should have used the sp wep at 8:5... there were so many of em, if u used ur sp they wud all dieeee... just press select to switch btween norm. missiles and SPW.
iluvlol4lifelmao 1 year ago
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Screw Xbox...
JensLine 1 year ago
@JensLine faaaaaaaaaaaagot
mercsiscool 1 year ago
F-2
2002LATIOS 2 years ago
i hope gon get they ass smacked
samalhoodman2 2 years ago
how to lock on missiles? :D
Schmidteren 2 years ago
..Is the story exactly the same as #5?
Cuz then it'd be a rip off.
Voidere08 2 years ago
the first time I played this I fell and blew up...
blinddarkness904 2 years ago
Kinda sucks though, I thought this was for PC. Turns out it was only for 360. It looked to fake to be true. Its not a "real-life" air shooter game.
CubeLuda 2 years ago
thats the same birdge from AC5
chamath41 2 years ago
Ace Combat is good but Lock On rules!
quantomic1106 2 years ago
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xxXArT1Xxx 2 years ago
wish you could fly helicopters in it
racedemon89 2 years ago
I wanna know why ACE COMBAT ZERO doesnt have the camera mode like that, In AC Zero, this camera looks smaller. Now, Ace Combat 6 has a nice camera mode because you can see everything beside you, without needing move the camera to side..
Aghamnned 2 years ago
is there also a camera mode to see the plane? (thirdperson)
sergeantDVE 2 years ago
yep : )
MrDinosaurman 2 years ago
because this screen mode is 16:9 (widescreen).. what you saw on AC was a 4:3 screen (standard)
arggamer 2 years ago
UI looks like battlefield 2
DarkDavy564 2 years ago
ace combat should make its own version of a flight sim. only a version though, changing from arcade to sim would ruin the series...
reaperonlineIAM 2 years ago
nice playing.
darren25joson 2 years ago
no shit all the ace combat's are alike
WESTSIDEFOREVA 2 years ago
it's like ace combat0
vivelesfar 2 years ago 3
PS3版にリメイクされて発売されないかなぁ
maebaraa 2 years ago 3
how do you do rolls in this game i couldn't manage in the demo
Jaded92 2 years ago
to do rolls, you to set the flight controll to "normal" and not novice.
WESTSIDEFOREVA 2 years ago
The way people here think that a video game could actually represent an accurate simulation of a flight just makes me laugh. Both video games do not use the real time flight models, so if the argument here is that one game is better than the other because of the so-called flight model, it is a ridiculous thought. these games are arcade video games with gfx vectoring that dictates movement. real flight sims dont. anyone looking for real time physics simulation is wasting time in these video games
imranite 2 years ago 2
i have never believed that a video game can accurately present real life physics. those who do are idiots. that's the whole argument, in case you missed it. its simple, if they want the "flight model" to be accurate, why not go join the air force or play in a sim.blockheads read what they wrote.
iakny 2 years ago
yeah but you also wrote that HAWX is realistic. I beg to differ. it is not a simulator. flight models and realism has nothing to do with either game.
imranite 2 years ago 2
yes but read my old posts. its realistic not in terms of game play or physics, but that it features real world maps and real planes instead of concept planes. some people do care about that, but some people love to bitch about realistic physics, "flight models" and expect the planes in the game to conform to the laws of physics, or some are moronic fanboys who trash games without playing it, and forget what they wrote just a day ago. I agree with you. i just tell them to get a goddamn simulator
iakny 2 years ago
Oh alright. Well, Geoeye really is a nice touch to add realism I give you that, but they have to do a better job when using it, because it gets ugly when you zoom in. I expect a little more depth given that it happens in Tom Clancy's world. How about more Ghost Recon integration?
imranite 2 years ago 4
no I agree. they could have done a better job with texture when you zoom in, but that's about the only time the game looks bad. overall the graphics are good. they actually are working on HAWX 2, on a video a guy posted a comment saying his dad was a project manager for this game in Romania. I asked him, he said that UBISOFT Romania may not be working on it but HAWX 2 is definitely a WIP. I hope they add more depth.
iakny 2 years ago
and more of a sim. the game had so much potential to be a great sim considering the amount of planes, the awesome graphics(in the air and on the plane models) but one more thing i wish was take offs and landings. but i think they should have gone sim instead of over the top arcade
bking9367 2 years ago
well the sequel is being produced, so let's see what they do with it. They have 2 expansion packs out for now.
iakny 2 years ago
cool
bking9367 2 years ago
The usual console player dont like to bother with learning how to play, they just want to hack and slash. So selling will go better with an arcade rather than a sim.
Thats why flightsim players stick to PC, among other things off course.
bfahren 2 years ago
I play consoles but love simulators. For me a big part of it is I dont have the money to buy all those drivers and stuff people talk about or the foggiest about how to use them or anything lol. With consoles you just plug in and turn on and pay usually once. I wish I knew more or had the cash. I think it puts people off a little bit which is a shame as there are great simulators out there.
toyotasera55 2 years ago
You can get a computer capable of handling every and all avaliable sims and a decent set of joystick, throttle and pedals for 600€.
bfahren 2 years ago
Whats that in sterling? Also I know there are a few out there if you look but can you see my point how, to the layman, PC gaming is more baffling then the plug n go of the console? I mean things like files and ram and stuff, its jargon to some people. I don't think they get made user friendly so much. Im semi-clued up on it but when people list the specs you need and things, im just like woah!
toyotasera55 2 years ago
Drivers? Lol.
With a PC, you just plug in your new hardware and use the CD to install it. That simple. :)
CubeLuda 2 years ago
the thing is, I dont know about pcs to much and I dont want to have to do anything where i have to take parts out or in and end up breaking it lol. I mean to people who know their stuff it sounds silly but i think some people like me fear the updating and stuff of pc games. Plus the cost to run the next game at its best mounts.
toyotasera55 2 years ago
I kinda get your point, but a PC is nothing you can break when your building or upgrading it.
It's not like a car engine thats mechanical. I used to fear PC's before I got into them around 10 years ago, so I know what your talking about.
I also watch a bunch of "DIY" videos on YouTube and they suck hard becuase they make you scared... Hell, I even worry when I watching videos like that. They talk so much crap about danger, its creapy.
But thats all pussy bullshit.
CubeLuda 2 years ago
On a motherboard for example. You have slots. One for a graphics card, a few for RAM and one for a CPU.
In this case, you can never get mixed up when building a PC, becuase everything is differenet from one another. Even the RAM. You can't put the RAM in the wrong way around becuase its impossible, it won't allow you to becuase each side is different.
Building a PC is like cubes. They all fit perfectly. Nothing can bend or break. = Perfect fit.
CubeLuda 2 years ago
Aye all right, I never thought it was that simple, yet I admit ive never had the cash for it. The thing is though, its ok to say it but the doings a bit different, I mean gotta start somewhere but i work on my pc too and i couldnt afford to break it or have to pay for repairs as i took it apart you see. can you see how i mean with a console you pay once and its all done?
toyotasera55 2 years ago
People talk of i7 CPU's and all these exepensive shit that they never need.
For example, a simple Quad Core Q6600 and 4GB's of RAM. And a 9800GT would play better then any console on the market. And these parts came out in 2006-2007.
It's all about ebay baby. You can build a bugdet high end PC "today" for cheaper then a console.
I see where your coming from, but to be honest, it is kinda your fault for going to wall-mart and picking up an office PC which WILL need upgrades every year. :D
CubeLuda 2 years ago
I see you live in the U.K. So instead of wall-mart I take it you went to PC World :) PC World is even worse.
They sell you out-of-date techlogy as "super fast" PC's. I was in London a few months back and they tried to sell me a crappy Celeron Dual Core PC with a "massive" (lol) 1GB of RAM for £299. I was like... Fuck you!
CubeLuda 2 years ago
Wal-Mart/Asda here dont really do much in the way of computers and its extremely poor what they do. PC World is a rip off , always after money and yea, they have old stuff but most people buy it thinking its just plug in and go. There isnt a huge mainstream choice in reality here which is annoying.
toyotasera55 2 years ago
I mean knowing about a PC is like knowing about anything,if your in the know,u know best brands,best price/how to install,like a mechanic knows the best parts/price and how to,a surgeon knows his job.i mean i admit i never looked in hard but again its the worry of breaking my pc. Sounds like ebay would be the good choice and part of this is my own unawareness but I just think on the whole, with regards to being user friendly, pc modifications are difficult and costly (or at least sound it).
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iakny 2 years ago
Yes you are right, it was a big simplification on my side to call it flight dynamics model. Still we can argue about differences of movement in both these arcade games. I think its more a matter of naming in this case, but certainly you have a point.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
Considerable experience with flight dynamics is a requirement, in order to understand the samples and make qualitative changes to them.
However, such flight model is not used in these video games, neither HAWX, or AC series. These systems are found in flight simulators, not these video games. In the game, AI programming sets constraints on the movement and transformation of graphics, and any changes in coordinates is not because of a set flight model, but rather, the logical location.
imranite 2 years ago
I have been observing this back and forth conversations about what game is better, and it is hilarious and ridiculous, because both sides are wrong about many things. Just to clear the confusion, flight dynamics data, in the form of coefficients and data tables, that determine the flying qualities of an aircraft. A number of samples are provided, that can be used as the basis for new flight models.
imranite 2 years ago 2
Witch is the better the better, Hawx or ace combat 6
MAMMOUT333 2 years ago
У разрабов Ace Combat колоссальный опыт создания леталок, а Hawx пока что единственная достойная леталка на PC и уже ни чем не хуже AC6.
belgeu 2 years ago
HAWX is better
favetto9 2 years ago
Ace Combat has a legacy and a very very high reputation, hawx has nothing, only good graphics and a couple of kids tryin to play Xbox360
americagh 2 years ago
Hawx is more realistic in terms of the overall feel. it has real life locations, unlike Ace's fake countries. gameplay is basically the same and slightly more fun to play than Ace. you have to play it to know about it.
Nothing beats Snoopy vs. The Red Baron, though. lol
iakny 2 years ago
Ace Combat has a world invented by a namco directors and designers team, they had to invent names of countries and fake maps, had creative ideas... hawx do not, they just take the real world
Ace Combat has a biggest Soundtrack production, you can fly with that music, it has no comparison, check it out I invite you on my channel... hawx do not, they just take the modern soundtrack concept music
Ace combat has concept planes, that have been designed by a very creative designers team... hawx do not
americagh 2 years ago
well some people care more for authenticity and realism. I like innovation, but authenticity is more important to me than it is probably to you, that is why you are content with fake maps and concept planes, and I like the realistic and real world locations and real planes. its just a matter of preference. you should at least give the full game a shot. rent it.
iakny 2 years ago
innovation? hawx game is based on a novel(is very good but), Ace Combat is based on namco designers and directors ideas, authenticity? hawx "world" is only USA territory, Ace Combat world is an authentic world invented by same guys... what's 'innovation' and 'authenticity' here?: CONCEPT SUPER PLANES & CUSTOM MAPS, and all things that I been talkin, like soundtracks, Ace Combat is better
americagh 2 years ago
you need a fact check. I said that authenticity is more important to me than innovation. that sentence means that Hawx is not as innovative as Ace Combat, but you failed to understand that meaning. second thing you are wrong about: HAWX is not just USA territory. it takes place in Tokyo, Brazil, Mexico and the Middle East. 3rd you have no clue what the word authenticity means. a real world location is authentic; a created world is not. fifa is mor authentic than winning 11: more real licenses.
iakny 2 years ago
demo version for PC only includes USA territory (sorry :D)... ok we're videogame players, so we don't care about who invented the real world, so what's authenticity for me: games that they invent a world for us to play, but ok you win "...Hawx is not as innovative as Ace Combat" soo, Ace Combat is much Better
americagh 2 years ago
yes and by that innovation I mean fictional planes and fictional maps that you happen to love. Yes, Hawx is based on Ace Combat game play. But it adds realism by adding more real, licensed planes and real world maps using Geo-eye. that is differentiation. It ads ERS to make things a little different and interesting. it features better graphics. the product are of the same category, but they are different enough that without trying the full game, your attempt to trash one game is stupidity.
iakny 2 years ago
"little different and little interesting" = Hawx, Ace Combat is the king and father and much better then Hawx, belive me I saw last mission this morning and I got no comments, search it on youtube "hawx last mission", is kinda booored, Ace Combat 2 mission was too many difficult, stressed and
entertaining than that, Hawx has better graphics on cinematics only,
but if you fly at 300 feet in both games, you will see what is BETTER GRAPHICS, Ace Combat 6 beats again
americagh 2 years ago
yeah you keep you tubing the game videos and base your judgments on those videos instead of playing the game itself, while I enjoy me some Hawx. Ciao.
iakny 2 years ago
Personaly I dont have any troubles with a bit of fiction in Ace Combat world, especialy since its mainly based on real one, and its quite beliveable. As far as realism goes I would be more concerned with how ridiciulous Hawx flight model is. This is a simplified action game ok, but it loses even to AC 3 on PSX, somewhere closer to AC 2 which is more than 10 years old. It feels a lot like a cheap copy from that time. About gfx, Hawx models lack details, I would call it rather poor.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
you are entitled to your opinion, and your opinions do not change the facts about Hawx, simply because you are one of those idiots who trash a game without even playing it, which in turn makes your ridiculous comparisons and pathetic opinions irrelevant. never trash a game before playing at least a part of its full version. Now I am gonna leave you to deal with your frustrations, and I will play some Hawx AND some Ace Combat 6.
iakny 2 years ago
Insulting words will make your stand more ligitimate. What you call ridiculous comparisions are actualy facts. Hawx models lack details, PC had better almost decade ago. All spectacularity is achieved by masking it with decent texture and some light. Impossible to stall VTOL planes or the wicked way speed affect turning radius arent my definition of realism either. You can go back to your Hawx, if you have fun with it then its fine with me, just dont say jokes like realism or good gfx in Hawx.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
I have Hawx for PS3, and no, the AC3 PSX visuals do not beat Hawx PS3 visuals. but again, you wouldn't know that, because neither you own a ps3 nor you have played Hawx full version. most likely, the HAWX demo didn't run well on your low end PC, so yeah, compared to the gfx on your PC, AC 3 on PSX probably is better.
iakny 2 years ago
Please put more attention to reading, I never mentioned that AC3 has better gfx than Hawx. I wrote that AC3 has better flight model than Hawx, and as far as gfx goes I compared it to PC standards. Amongs few consoles I do own there is no PS3 right, I have to borrow it from a friend, but thats irrevelant since my PC actualy can run Hawx on max.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
as for the realism, this game is arcade, and by realism I mean authentic presentation of licensed jets satellite data, NOT the game play. Ace Combat doesn't abide by the law of physics either. play MS flight sim or join the air force for that purpose.
stick to your PSX or crappy PC.
iakny 2 years ago
Yes its arcade, and I already said that in my first post in this topic. However some basic physics are required for game to give player good feel of flying, and make dogfights more exciting. In this matter Hawx is far behind standards of AC and others of this genre like Air Strike Delta. Simplest maneuvers are pain in the ass, not to mention cosmic details like supercruise of all jets or already mentioned impossibillity to stall some of them.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
Go play Hawx full version on a console first. stop reviewing games based on PC demos and youtube videos.
iakny 2 years ago
I havent seen even single Hawx gameplay video on youtube nor said anything about using demo version. And why would I play Hawx on console if there is a PC version of it.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
there! that obviously means you haven't played the game at all, and you don't know anything about it yet you review and trash something you don't know shit about because you haven't played it. you don't know what you are talking about, so I won't waste my time arguing with you.
iakny 2 years ago
How in the world does that means I havent played the game? Your logic is quite unusual I must say.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
No you haven't. you don't know what you are talking about. Go play Hawx full version first. Stop being an idiot and stop trashing a game that you haven't played.
iakny 2 years ago
So every person who wont agree that Hawx is better than AC didnt play the game or what? Seems like there is a bit of foam on your mouth.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
I don't have problem with people giving bad reviews to a game if they have played it. the problem is with fan boys like you badmouth a game without even playing it. In your little world, AC3 models are better than HAWX models, that gave you away. AC3 models are excellent for its generation, but HAWX models are better. I know this, since I have actually played the games. dont bother replying to my post anymore, or feel free to waste your time.
iakny 2 years ago
Dont LIE. I have never ever wrote that AC3 models are better. I havent even wrote that ANY AC got better models than Hawx. I did use AC3 only for opinion on flight model. Please either learn how to read or change your pills. Feel free to quote me if Im mistaken.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
OK, wiseass, you said and I quote ".....I wrote that AC3 has better flight model than Hawx"....."
look it up. it was only a day ago. and if you have any balls, do not delete it.
I don't need to change pills or learn to read.
you need to take pills so your memory works better.
I don't need to say anymore. stop wasting my time.
iakny 2 years ago
Again, learn to read.
FLIGHT MODEL. For your information flight model is implementation of physics that determine behaviour of game objects.
While MODELS are part of graphic, a 3d clump representing objects that usualy gets shaded and texturized.
Dont mix up simple things. What you just quoted showed me right.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
Like i said, stop wasting my time playing around with the words. neither your AC3 models, or your AC3 flight models, are better than Hawx models.
iakny 2 years ago
I never said you were talking about "plane models" . I simply said models, could be flight, or could be plane, and in either case, you are wrong about AC3 being better, because you haven't played Hawx, and then you lie about not saying anything about AC3 model being better than Hawx. I wont waste my time on idiots like you anymore. go play a game before reviewing it, idiot.
iakny 2 years ago
Since there is only single flight model, you cant use plural form refering to flight model in certain game. Thank you for proving my point with insults.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
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iakny 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
no actually thank you for proving my point that you dont know what you are talking about, by focusing on the singulars and plural, because you don't really have a valid point to make. . dont bother replying, as I don't have time to argue with idiots like you who cry about flight MODELS and game physics in ARCADE video games.
iakny 2 years ago
Being arcade game doesnt mean that it wont be better (or worse) if it simulate certain effects. It can make a big difference and for reference you can use driving games. Take for extreme example Ridge Racer and Gran Turismo series as both can be called arcade games.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
iakny, ace combat 3 dont hav betta flight models than h.a.w.x. fiy, ace combat 3 was 10 years or sumthin ago, and h.a.w.x is much developd and way better
arminhank 2 years ago
iakny, does PSN have the extension pack available?
alphanaturalist 2 years ago
yeah. you have to buy it though. Its called the European expansion and adds a couple of aircrafts.
i agree with you on ace combat x. its in the top 10 games for psp. lol you should also try snoopy vs. the red baron.
iakny 2 years ago
Then you must really suck at playing games, because HAWX maneuvers are easy to pull off. It is one of the easiest games I have ever played. Most people who like to have fun while playing games do not give a shit about whether the physics is real or not. I have played every single Ace Combat game that has ever come out, and I can easily say that HAWX, if not better, is equally as much fun to play as AC 6.
alphanaturalist 2 years ago
Actualy I kinda live off playing games, mainly FPPs but I think I do decent at other ones too. Anyway please notice that I havent said that I have problems with level of difficulty or pulling off things that are possible. However controling turn radius with speed is a bit useless and even doing YoYos has little sense. In spite of that I never said that Hawx is not fun, nor that people cant have fun playing it. Im just against calling it better with all the shorts it has.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
lol ok. sounds much better than your initial baseless trashing of the game. I love AC, and I love Hawx; I just love Hawx more. No game is perfect, and neither is Ace Combat. most people dont have problems with its liberal physics, and the models look good and better than PSX AC3, to me. By the way, Ace Combat X is the single best game ever made for PSP.
alphanaturalist 2 years ago
here, some details:
The European Assault Pack DLC launches on April 23 for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 -- priced at 400 and $4.99, respectively -- and includes six new vehicles from the "robust" Saab-37 Viggen to the FB-22 prototype bomber.
iakny 2 years ago
thanks. I dont think I will be downloading it soon. I am playing flower. dont be surprized. its really a good game.
alphanaturalist 2 years ago
Initial trashing? Matter of standards, especialy since personaly I was waiting for that game due to multiplayer in PC version, and so I had my own expectations. However for me its flight model isnt enough for competitive use. Fun factor is whole different story, and it also depends on how you define it. I keep up what I said, even usage of word ridiciulous, but I never said people wont have fun with it.
Also I havent compared graphics with AC3, but with standards to which Im used on PC.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
lol what are you talking about bro? you sound like you are caught up in your own bullshit.
you claim that you haven't compared graphics with AC 3, yet the guy below me quotes you comparing models and calling AC3 models better.
Let this be a wake up call for you. AC3 models are NOT better than HAWX models. If HAWX doesn't run well on your computer, its your computer, not the game.
and please stop saying senseless things and then denying that you didn't. it only makes you look foolish. peace
alphanaturalist 2 years ago 2
He did not. He did quote me saying about flight model. There is nothing in that quote that is releated to comparing graphics in these games.
Just out of curiosity, how come the two of you answer at almost exactly same time?
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
systems should be compared between a flight and a simulated flight. Video game AI tries to trick you into thinking that what's happening is in real time. The orientation of vector, or misdirection, is compensated but further vector orientation, not by changing the dynamics. A real simulator doesn't compensate for such things if not programmed. a flight is controlled by logic or sequential controls, and feedback or linear controls, or fuzzy logic for physical dynamics
imranite 2 years ago
The difference between both systems will still be there. You can implement effect of some forces like that, but root of problem lies in in such basics like developers decision to make some impossible to stall planes. Im still trying to solve the riddle how speed could not affect turning radius. Since I dont think its possible to program it that way, and I based it on ingame situation, it could be just a matter of planes parameters. I would exactly measure it, but I already did thew game away.
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
OK, so let me say this and finish it. HAWX graphics are better than all previous gen graphics, but not better than AC6. both of you are not going anywhere by arguing back and forth and flight models are irrelevant in a video game.
As for your curiosity, don't tell me that a smart person such as yourself is not smart enough to realize that two people can be on the internet at the same time. there is this, it is called chatting, that happens in real time.
later.
alphanaturalist 2 years ago
Fair with me. As long as graphics is compared with any AC, even AC6 or other games of that genre I cant say no. I just wanted to point that by any means all that graphic isnt state of art. However just let me say that I find flight model very important.
Two people can be online at same time, but if twice in row they send their reply at almost same time, I would wonder if there is any relation between them. And so I asked. cya
FromWitchSide 2 years ago
Flight models are great, fun factor is there, and you are mixed up with your "PC standards/PSX comparisons". it is really getting stupid. stop it.
alphanaturalist 2 years ago 2
I wont really argue with someone who doesnt understand the meaning of a simple sentence, the words innovation and authenticity, and trashes one game after only playing the demo and not even knowing much about it.
iakny 2 years ago
demo version for PC? where?? give me the links please
JerryM1986 2 years ago
search FILEFRONT "hawx demo"
americagh 2 years ago
And Tom Clancy brand has higher overall reputation than Ace Combat. I expect much more crossover between Ghost Recon and Hawx games.
iakny 2 years ago
if you want to compare hawx with Ace Combat gameplay, you gotta be kiddin me, did you play White Bird missions on Ace Combat 5? men I played yesterday that mission, men they was just very very exciting...
so.. tell me about Hawx, I got da demo version, it was kinda bored
americagh 2 years ago
lol x fuckup has dropings lol
groeneslang 2 years ago
tom clancy´s hawx is much better!
McFmp11 2 years ago
Como pueden grabar las misiones del xbox y subirlas a youtube?
sextaregion 2 years ago
Man I come right out of just unlocking every thing in ace combat 5 what the heck is an estovaikain? I understand belkans yukes and oseans but what is an estovaikian help!?
JonatronsSkyHawk 3 years ago
estovakiens are the main enemy in ace combat 6
GraceMeria V. Estovakia.
ZildjianMan1023 3 years ago
They are your enemy like russians
TheTiberDude 2 years ago
looking at this game exclusively to 360 make me think that i will have to spend some money soon ....
vamborala 3 years ago
if falcon 4 only had the same graphic of this game, but still sticks with the realisim as it is today, it would be a remarkable simulator which will be played by all.
140VFS 3 years ago
Man. I like the contrials of both fighters and missiles
LtEagleEyes140 3 years ago
Damn, this game looks good, since it's out for the 360, hopefully eventually they'll port it to PC. The game looks fun, the voice acting is good, but I kinda wish they would do one more anime styled story like Ace Combat 3, that's the best out of all the AC games. And the ground building textures are still kinda bad, they just use HDR to cover it up.
awdrifter3 3 years ago
Damn annoying this being only on the 360!!!!
codec009 3 years ago
R1 and R2 buttons are used to gently turn the plane without tilting too.
Emperadorartico1289 3 years ago
its called yawing
iwillwait 3 years ago
lol i always get yawing and pitching mixed up
liam13renniesrtdancn 3 years ago
los botones R1 y R2 sirven para girar suavemente sin inclinar demasiado el avion.
Emperadorartico1289 3 years ago
hate to death united states and the relationship which that has japan with united states fuck you americans of shit, japan forever better.
Emperadorartico1289 3 years ago
hahaha.
/agree
PumpDaBass 3 years ago
voice acting is terrible, real cheesy.
nznick361 3 years ago
Ha ha! Y'know, watching this kinda reminded me of something weird I heard when I was playing this...
Garuda 2: I have a lock!
Garuda 2: Garuda 2 firing!
Wait for half a second and...
Toychek: Strigon leader is hit! Are you alright sir?
God that never fails to crack me up.
Gahsu 3 years ago
@Gahsu
Something sorta like that happened to me just today during Anea Landing.
*Missile crashes right behind me*
Garuda 2: I missed!
Garuda 2: I've got a lock!
*radar lock warning*
Me: Shamrock, are you trying to kill me?
*Silence*
*Missile lock warning*
Me: You liar! :D
AbortFlight 1 year ago
LOL CHEATS! his health went from red to green in 0.1 seconds
GunSlingerXAi 3 years ago
this is the demo, you can't die unless by direct fire or hitting the ground. there wasn't any cheats
penitent2401 3 years ago
do something idiot!
ULTRASID 3 years ago
are you gay squad on this game ?
foxusp 3 years ago
i want this game!!!
Very good!
Luke0eer 3 years ago
very good game
agentul0011 3 years ago
are the streets and low buildings on the ground still textures? If so, then this game hasn't really evolved much since the first one :(
HETPE3BEHHuK 3 years ago 2
i dont ave this game but what i heard the squadron name is "Garunda"
coolL9456 3 years ago
I think the squadron name was "Garuda"?
canzt 3 years ago
I can't believe how bad the music is for this!
TiMMYSQUibbLES 3 years ago
U suck if say the music sux
EAFSQ9 3 years ago 2
are u still the razgriz squadron in ac6?
Iversonrulez 3 years ago
No your not the Razgiz.
Havoc123Heli456 3 years ago
R u the Hotjizz squadron then?
paulwes1983 3 years ago
are u still the razgriz squadron in ac6?
Iversonrulez 3 years ago
aw come on the gameplay is so so,easy! i mean where are the enemy fighters!wouldnt it be mroe intense if enemy fighters fire a missle on u and u struggle to evade it!
magicstorm1 4 years ago
they do just this guy isnt doing the campainge on a harder difficulty is all
haloman102 3 years ago
id try'd that demo but i dont know hoe to chage the camerat to cockpit?
skunky1112 4 years ago
This is one of the 1st user made videos of AC6 Demo. And my intention to make this video was not a skill showcase. I intended to show how AC6 looks like.
Low flying and looking around to show details of terrains. I used more guns than missiles to show close look of explosion effects. Low flyby over bomb exposions at 2:40 as well.
At 5:13, I tracked a B-52 going down. Even with low image quality of YouTube, you can see that this B-52 is on fire, but 3D model of B-52 itself seems undamaged.
ShVAK20 4 years ago
hey are there other campainge levels in the game or no
haloman102 3 years ago
what are you guys talking about, the flying was pretty well done..and the corkscrew around the bridge he did isnt easy to execute
Uncensorship 4 years ago 4
man this person can not fly good
Cipher1000 4 years ago 2
lousy pilot.
for goodness sake its a fighter jet not a paparazzi heli.
lightchaser2k6 4 years ago
looooooool
L4keB0d0m 4 years ago
yeah lol, hes deaf
supliladolf 4 years ago
what the hell were you doing!!! wernt ypu even attacking the enemy?!?!?!?!
spiderboy43 4 years ago
Looks pretty sweet, i actually went off this genre of game a while back.
Maybe i'll give one more try.
beefkilla 4 years ago
Gr8 game but the player looks like not so good...he can fight smoothly but he is too "classic" flight style...
Pretty good video anyways...
RainbowViskip 4 years ago
This genre of game really got me excited until i saw this vidio, it looks abit boring tbh, surely that cannot be the top speed of the planeduring gameplay? can you change the camera angle so you can see the back of the plane???
marwood03 4 years ago
There are 3 angles to play from:
1. Cockpit view(player using in Video)
2.HUD view
3. 3rd peron view( where you see your fighter)
If knew this just ignore this post
KeyBladeKiller 4 years ago
thanks for the help
marwood03 4 years ago
its really not boring. ive played it. the player in this vid just sux. all he does is float around
matthewmalinab 4 years ago
i played the demo from marketplace and wasnt impressed, am i missing something that isnt in the demo?
TheKillersVidRoom 4 years ago
well theres a whole bunch of planes to be unlocked in the campaign. there is also online play. or maybe its just not ur type of game?
matthewmalinab 4 years ago
the developers are afraid they might get nuked by ol' bush
DeeStylistic 4 years ago
where did you get the demo?
mrprokiller 4 years ago
that guy is good,
BensoftMedia 4 years ago
For everyone who is wondering about what country this takes place in, look at the text at the top of the screen. They are not saying Ammeria, or America. They are saying GRACEMERIA. Don't believe me, look at the captions at the top of the screen.
MoonlitEclipse 4 years ago