League of Legends - S2 Jungle Sejuani

[CruentusMessor]

How viable is it to go regrowth pendant and a pot on Sejuani? With that start you save 160-ish gold you otherwise would use on pots and you can rush philo stone.

[Fl4m30f3d3n]

@CruentusMessor Honestly from experience it's viable but you get very low on blue, unless you get a good leash, you also can barely clear the whole jungle. I use pendant but it is because I invested in armor quints and armor yellows.

[Sertindgex]

what runes are better, armor pen or magic pen? because the best are AS i guess, but i dont have

[StanleyKingChan]

@Sertindgex Magic pen doesnt affect the jungle.

[Sertindgex]

@StanleyKingChan i asked, because she is a "caster" jungle, spamming skills instead of auto attack

[Sertindgex]

@Sertindgex nvm im a retard lol, never saw the 0 mr

[StanleyKingChan]

@Sertindgex yeah so theres your answer get magic pen if you want to have late game damage (which is minimal even with mp) or get some attack runes to help you in early game.

[Koersy14]

@stonewall008 If you wanted some damage output as well, when items would you replace and build. (I watched your team fight too)

[stonewall008]

@Koersy14 don't expect damage from Sejuani

[ekrinain]

@stonewall008 She is quite capable actually, and there is a pretty easy build that makes her secure kills after 7 minutes, but in exchange for very wary/careful playing pre-7 minutes. Ganks still possible, but not guaranteed kills. It's kept me at the highest kdr i've had in ranked with any champion, while simultaneously feeding the kills towards my carries--but yes, doing enough damage to get kills too. I don't know, my experiences don't match people's common opinion of her.

[IDBC94]

@Koersy14 Just stack hp if you are hoping for damage in a best case scenario you can do 15% of sejuanis hp as magic damage to a frosted target with her northern winds

[johnnyrambo22]

that music is so fkn creepy.

[animuandmango]

Cloth armor, lol.

[neyko64]

she seems..

underpowered through my prespective stone wall what do you think of her?

[eistain24]

The build i'm using is armor penetration red/armor yellow/cdr blue/+5gold Quints

starting almost the same route u get, but with pedant at the beginning

so its like first time going home and get my sorcerer's stone, after that i'm still pretty well at ganking

and get sorcere's stone+golden heart asap makes me easier to get my warmog soon

usually around 11~12min I can get belt already

Is there anything I can adjust to make it better?

[OkamiSojirou]

@eistain24 You're a support/tank. Why would you need Sorc Shoes? :O Your job is to suck up to damage and slowslowslowslowslowslowslowsl­owslowslow.

[eistain24]

@OkamiSojirou

sry my mistake, what I mean is philosopher's stone...dunno how i type that out

[eistain24]

@eistain24 correction, it was philosopher's stone i'm talking about

[OkamiSojirou]

@eistain24 Ohhh XD That's pretty much how u build Sejuani. GP5 + Warmogs/Frozen Mallet.

[Schadenfreude17]

@OkamiSojirou Eh, I don't actually like the Frozen Mallet on her, nor the Warmogs. While yes, the slow stacking is nice, at the point where you're applying it after your E, you're getting maybe.. 7% of actual slow off of the Frozen Mallet? And she's beefy enough without Warmogs, I just find it unnecessary.

[OkamiSojirou]

@Schadenfreude17 I just suck the damage for my team and disrupt theirs. I don't have to deal much damage. I have no idea why people would build dmg for a support/tank whose abilities don't scale well. My Sejuani gets Merc/Shurelya/Sunfire/Randuin'­s/FoN/Warmog or FM (in no particular order). Meh, I just like to tank. Like with Shen.

[MitsisChris]

what runes and masteries for this ?

[chiefkill11]

@MitsisChris omg look in the description

[Yuizele]

@MitsisChris lol. read description. it says RIGHT THERE:

[BuZZLeR24]

hey stonewall:D u thi9nk jungle eve is credible now?:D

[stonewall008]

@BuZZLeR24 Sadly it isn't - but i do like Eve as a pick sometimes

[BuZZLeR24]

@stonewall008 oh okay thank you :D

[Soroius]

@stonewall008 hey watch out this :)

/watch?v=GmMfKgBtZeY&list=UUSA­ovbsADbBj1fs55naPTcA&index=10&­feature=plcp

[stonewall008]

@Soroius i'm real sick of people thinking I haven't made a video for certain characters because I don't know how. There are reasons why i haven't released certain videos - Shen (remake is in the works), Poppy (low priority), Eve (low priority), Leblanc (really stupid)

[Soroius]

@stonewall008 My comment was no criticism. I just wanted to show you this one for entertainment. Im sad that you get is the wrong way.

[stonewall008]

@Soroius how is it even entertaining?

[PeteTheBrazilian]

So, how do you feel about her, Stonewall? I can't shake the feeling that a champion that has an AoE skill that can be used for jungling + built-in gap closer + CC as passive is VERY strong. I bought her on release and I'm really glad I did heh!

[TheDin007]

can you please make a team battle with sejuani if possible ?

[cloudmagus]

What tier is Sejuani? Mid/low tier 1?

[DeasOlsen]

Knock up at golems? What the hell is going on?? 1:30

[SxRGaming]

@DeasOlsen Her Q pushes creeps around a bit

[SxRGaming]

@DeasOlsen Her Q pushes creeps around a bit

[swepower123]

This is shyvanas clearing speed with uuber ganks... HMM i smell banned in ranked

[mardave321]

I've just watch ur DR.Mundo jungling and Ithought this was Dr.mundo or Shyvana.

[Chrikke666]

Possible to start Regrowth Pendant?

[lnlsun]

I swear you've used this song before...

[VikingBoost]

I just knew when I saw this champion she'd be a perfect jungler. An AoE like Shyvanna, but ganks that occurs to be to be that of a Lee, and the slowing passive like GP just seals the deal.

I'm not looking foward to when experienced junglers pick that champion in ranked.

[Zerasad]

@stonewall008 I think you could Q over the golem wall and cut 5 seconds. Not sure tho.

[stonewall008]

@Zerasad ...then lose the power to Apply frost on the camp /facepalm

[ekrinain]

@stonewall008 False. I've done it and the frost gets applied.

[ekrinain]

@ekrinain Actually, saw the whole vid and you did the one I thought was meant. So not sure wtf original poster was referring to

[iAmFuzenAkuma]

@ekrinain He's referring to small golems to red

[eistain24]

@stonewall008

I think he means after blue golem, the cooldown should be fine

[Tatarync]

@stonewall008 But you apply the frost to the Lizard Elder by just autoattacking, and the smaller lizards will die by your second activation on W anyways.

[arthasbaffuto]

her passive stacks with red buff?

[raptor152]

@arthasbaffuto slows do not stack, whichever slow is the strongest is the one that takes effect.

[stonewall008]

@raptor152 yeah they do stack.

[OkamiSojirou]

@raptor152 Frozen Mallet/Red Buff/Passive Slows stack. Only FM and Rylai's slow don't stack. Nunu's iceball + rylai gives a greater slow.

[HuertaGer]

songs name?



[stonewall008]

@HuertaGer description

[bowy2bob]

@stonewall008 I like to go wolves>blue>wraiths>wolves>red lvl 3 gank or finish the golems because on blue spawn or purple my team gives them to top lane or bot. Is this good idea or should I just go strait to red?

[dono4677]

she jungles slow at the start but she can start with hp regen and pot. hp quints+arpen reds.

[cybereden]

@raptor152 That's because they do physical damage :]

[raptor152]

Tried her out using the same setup as in your video but used MR per level blues, had a really tough time and lizard almost killed me.

[SheffiTB]

@stonewall008 hey stonewall, I managed it by 3:40 with WQE, using E two seconds after Q to keep frost up on the entire camp for the duration of W. It also gives me earlier ganking potential.

[SheffiTB]

@SheffiTB it's also more optimal lategame because you want to max her W last anyway (it gains the least from being upgraded).

[Elfitizer]

Stonewall, can u give a link to a screenshot of the masteries?

[VVillovv]

so do you teach phreak how to jungle for his champion spotlight videos?

[kugel7719]

Shyvana AoE

Gragas Dash

Volibear Permafrost

Ashe Ult with limited range

[kali462]

@kugel7719 my names kugel i like to regurgitate what i saw someone else say on the league of legend forums to sound cool

[Ralinor666]

@kugel7719 never heard of volibear permafrost b4

[pautpy]

Mini Malphite ult

Mundo/Shyvana spinning aoe

[coolcam44]

would regrowth pendant work too? or armor? And if starting armor, build into what? XD

[nfox1121]

@coolcam44 I just tryed her with

Attack Speed reds

Armor Yellows

MR per level blues

Movement Speed Quints

Cloth and pots x5

Had a rough time in the jungle.

[jtsupersized]

You will want to Max her [E] for the 70% Permafrost slow and save her [W] for last since it scales the slowest, mainly her HP. Just one rank in [W], [Q], [E], then maxing [E] and taking [R] when possible. Save [W] for last.

[SnailMuffin]

@jtsupersized Agreed. Skill order should be WQEE. Her E has the most utility and deals comparible damage to W.

[JackDragonCn]

Why people alwasy ask those pointless question?

do they even know what the description is?

[blitz1292]

u could probably do wew and be fine might be a bit slower cuz u cant go through walls tho

[KashinDaBank]

It's sA-jew-Arrow-inKnee

[MyrhhDarkling]

@KashinDaBank That was fucking terrible.

[opposition22]

why so many rp hacks related to this?...

[Shinas1996]

this is isn't her best build i'm guessing?? she only just came out and you didn't have much time to experiment.. or is it??

[stonewall008]

@Shinas1996 ...did you even read the description?

[PukaPunch]

@stonewall008 Honestly i dont even see anything in the description other than build and where u got the music. Am i missing something?

[stonewall008]

@PukaPunch ...it says CHOICE Runes

[coolcam44]

@stonewall008 I think he meant starting item.. x.x

[elvenwoor]

your skillshots are not shown with the line particle, is it more accurate like that? because if i use a skillshot with the original line particle, i sometimes miss due to camera perspective :s, is his less of a problem with the circle particle? and where can i change it, ingame options? thanks in advance

[Machimachina]

Looks like one of the better tank junglers. Maybe Jarvan tier? She has an escape, unlike mummy.

[AznNiteForce]

no life stonewall get a life

[hexeyes]

@AznNiteForce Lol?

[loglog7]

So average sustain, kinda slow jungle, ganking would be good though wouldn't it? especially after 6

[hollowdrum]

You gonna make a nunu jungle guide soon. I cant seem to figure what item and marks to start with to get through quickly

[Magzillas]

I played against a Junglejuani last night as jungle Singed. Seemed like she flew ahead of me to start because I (mistakenly) thought she'd be pretty slow and I wasted time counterjungling her and almost getting caught.

Mid-late game, however, it didn't seem like she could keep up her pace. Not sure if the guy's build (typical 2 gp10 --> tank) was optimal or if he just wasn't doing it right.

[rickychase18]

she still feels pretty big and slow tho the times okay ^_^

[MrPihtija]

hmmmz...stonewall, you did this on some test realm? :)

cuz as far as the patch notes said, winter map went out of the game (for now) and Sejuani in :D

[ManhattanProject2000]

@MrPihtija Still in the game, at least in custom. Haven't done any matchmade yet.

[MrPihtija]

@ManhattanProject2000 oh...well, either i'm worng or patch notes lie :D

tnx

[TheRagman93]

She looks a Shyvanna with half the damage and twice the CC.

[GahloWake]

@TheRagman93 You mean any CC? XD

[0mn0mn0mniv0re]

such a big hit box!

[Toan133]

So here's the real question: Is Sejuani worth playing as a jungler? Because your tags go "looks to be about tier _ jungle." Lacking the number makes it difficult to tell what you meant.

[mudgee92]

Looks to be what tier jungle? (from the tags)

[MrTesT56]

what do you think about the red buff not aplying to single target spells and how they affect certain junglers?

[thecheesedude1]

She kinda reminds me of Shyvanna but with ice >_>

[BSonnemaker]

@thecheesedude1 a tanky melee ashe is the best comparison you can make.

[DreamMorpheus42]

@thecheesedude1 heh, but instead of dragon you get a super rad pig to ride! Reminds me of those badass Crash Bandicoot levels.

[Emnelrith]

@thecheesedude1 shyvana does damage, she doesn't

[LZMieczu]

@thecheesedude1 Mixed a little bit with amumu

[ruimams]

Sejuani in the winter map... :)

[RellikVancoor]

Saw Dan Dihn start with permafrost. THat is the last thing I would think to start with, thoughts?

[stonewall008]

@RellikVancoor did he do like no damage? Permafrost only damages things with frost on them.

[fifrein]

@stonewall008 auto-attack, then permafrost

[stonewall008]

@fifrein that's rather insignificant 

[WaterBallista]

@RellikVancoor he took permafrost with red for lvl2 gank

[thijsblack]

Sejuani isn't even out on EUNE yet :S

[JizztasticMan]

@thijsblack Don't worry pal, she isn't that amazing. She isn't bad, just not a top pick.

[tomasiarity]

What the shell with all the "Get free RP hack" in the related videos?

[S4Player100]

@tomasiarity lol idk but just ignore its referrals :P

[roflguy]

Damn, she looks to be tier jangle.

[freestylefaracha]

shyvana clearing camps+ skarner ganking

[LeafStar5]

I was very confused when I first heard neighing, I thought it was coming from her boar. ;_;

[TheCmac4444]

What would you suggest building that cloth armor into? I take it Wriggles wouldnt be a good choice for her? So just save it for Frozen Heart?

[vespenejazz]

@TheCmac4444 Ninja tabi is also a very good choice, the faster Sejuani is, the better her ganks are. Build a philo stone for substain (like most support/tank junglers).

[XchucksteakX]

@TheCmac4444 if i was you yeah i would build that cloth armor into a FH or maybe a ninja tab if need be. my core for her is cloth armor 5 pots, than boots, than philo stone, than upgrade the boots to what you need, shroud shield, phage, than just go from there. seems to be pretty solid from there. i know her passive gives slow and so does her E but with phage it gives health and damage and a slow...and my mentality with her is shes a tank first :D

[Ramonpeiro]

big champion :|,shyvana on ice

[Line30C]

@Ramonpeiro no, on volipig

[yassercito]

Last part of the music reminded SOTN+Valkyrie Profile OST's ._.

[lRecon]

That is actually Shyvanna, it's just the boar made her use freezing skills :3

[tehhowardmok]

I like unicorn music and all those kinds of majestic music, but why no boar-related music, stonewall?

[HeresyOfHorus]

stonewall, do you like playing her?

[FireCell101]

@gblmks are you stupid she looks just like shav.

[sixfingerman68]

I missed the wall charging trick. RIP jungle Gragas

[lRecon]

Sheems that she's a Shyvanna with a very low DPS and slow :3

[DerUnbekannteFlo]

she looks the be tier "what" jangle?

[Midaspl]

@DerUnbekannteFlo I think - middle of tier I, eventhually top of tier II

[0mn0mn0mniv0re]

cool-but isnt that kind of slow for a jungler? would there be some rune changes that would make her faster? or maybe a different item? 3:45 isnt great, and then she should be ganking at levels 2, 3, and maybe more then that.

[SirDougles]

@0mn0mn0mniv0re 3:45 is pretty much the norm...the only ones really faster are in God Tier

[MAXXvzammy]

i think she is a nice jungler,was pretty fast for not a very offensive runes and masteries and stonewall didnt do wolves...but still pretty nice

[windscar18]

@MAXXvzammy Not doing the wolves second time around is standard issue for timing jungle. All jungle times are basically measured up to level 4

[Icecubebac]

pre lvl decent jungler and god mode ganger at 6

[CreepSpark]

Great music choice, as always!

[Xskillna]

So... Shyvana + Ashe... only not as good.

[Exkaisen1]

@Xskillna more like amumu instead of shyvana

[SirDougles]

@Xskillna ........

[reifnotreef]

They must REALLY be running out of ideas for champs/spells.

Seriously Riot?

[4zg4l0r]

So, after you reach lv 4, what do you usually do? go for ganking or back to get boots?

[SirDougles]

@4zg4l0r Like with any jungler you look at whats going on. Can you safely gank? Is your health at a good level? Do you teammates need it badly? Sejuani looks to have amazing ganks so if you can pull it off then do it, but don't think you HAVE to.

[ninjaguy155ROBLOX]

team battle soon?

[SneakehNub]

I wouldnt dare gank with that low health at the end of a jungle.

[stonewall008]

@SneakehNub get a damn leash then

[broadude]

@stonewall008 No need to be that aggresive, just sayin'...

[avionkv]

@gblmks Are you a wizard?

[chronikoflife]

cc Whore

[RedEyedVinithian]

sejuani ... now a another reason for merc treads rofl not that they will help ...

[werderfreak88]

a slow within a slow.....slowception

[narutoandwow]

team battle please kkthx

[FireCoTTon]

What do you think of Sejuani Stonewall? Is she fine, does she need improvments?

[iflynation]

Dat riven nerf.....

[umbreon303]

i hope her CC doesnt dmg so much on other champs.. or else she is an absolute nightmare to face cuz of her passive slow and her stuns :S

[spoonfyter]

What a boaring jungle.

[DIChronicAddict1]

Yo, dawg, I heard you like slows...

[kuraz08]

@DIChronicAddict1 ... so you can have more slows while you're slowing and slow while you slow.

[07Krye]

@kuraz08 thats like an exhibit of xhibit exhibiting xhibit!

[wizzkiller92]

I guess she could do better with a strong leash

[jankdog10]

she seems like she will be an absolute nightmare in teamfights.

[levykid]

A character that I jungle with movespeed quints?! Yes!

[Iced1992]

@gblmks my god...

[ashimoshuken]

stonewall what do you think of sejuani is she any good at jungle i mean at what level of gameplay would you compare her? like she tier 1 or 2 or lower or...?

[7zot]

can you clear with regrowth+pot if you get a leash?

[SilentlySearching]

how stronk stonewall?

[IrishPikachu]

the music should have pigs not horses

op = oink pork

[MrWickeedd]

seems like volibear with a better ult tbh

[SirDougles]

@MrWickeedd and better ganks....and better clears....and better build options...

[theBIGreekgeek]

@SirDougles yeah...he has the skill to expand his jungle videos by ading ganks...i believe since season 2 has come he has to make a new start and bring us better vids :)

[stonewall008]

@theBIGreekgeek why don't you just wait for team battles then