ECT ElectroShock Therapy, Torture, Psychiatry & Mind Control

[yaniv4it]

the nicest thing is to give flowers and chocolate to somebody.. its mack you feel good.... and by doing that the world will be perfect.... trust me... and everything will be all right. :)

[AnneFox7]

@mikeweckstein Where is the Bergen Regional Medical Center? Attack models in Alberta, Canada include the very same abuse to which you were exposed. Alberta Response Model team blitz style attacks are conducted against those who report abuse such as that you suffered. Trauma from childhood abuse is not mental illness. Trauma causes post traumatic stress. It is treatable as a form of grief response from abuse and follow up interventions preventing recovery. See Elizabeth Kubler- Ross

[AnneFox7]

In Alberta terrorization of families children and especially of women has been done by Alberta Response Model teams. Teams consist of mental health services nurses psychologists, emergency room physicians sometimes psychiatrists. The abuse is done by first responders and psychologists and psychiatrists remain aloof in a supervisory position. Treatments such as drugging are ordered prior to being seen by the supervising psychologist or psychiatrist. Medications create symptoms. ARM =BLOOD CEMENT.

[dmmct99]

This has NOTHING to do with the topic but what kind of camera and recording software do you use? I need to figure out how to make good videos like this.

[annaban333]

And to add I haven't had any depression, mania, and I've been sleeping well. I have had some anxiety, but my Husband lost a job w/ a Fortune 500 company that he had for 20 years in March. He's still looking for a job like he had before but meanwhile he's been blessed w/ a temporary job that keeps food on the table & gas in the car. We have had struggles lately but I'm ok - b4 ECT I would've been a complete basket case by now.

[annaban333]

I am severely BiPolar I took many meds for years that failed to keep me from mania (horrible dillusional mania). I was hospitalized many times, which was very hard on my 3 children. They now have their Mom back thanks to ECT! I no longer have to take those meds w/ side effects = to torture!

[Dorothyloewen]

I am gland there is such a thing as ECT it helped me get back my life I was so deppress life was not worth living now that i had 9 treatments I am 100% well again thankyou ECT Sep 2011

[mallorysmind]

When given a choice of feeling depressed to the point of wanting to take my life vs the possible ease of these feelings. How can that be seen as torture when it in facts HELPS the depression and allows me to have a life vs being out of control when suffering depression

[GAboy2470]

@mallorysmind If it worked for you, that is fine. But consider this; before antidepressant was used, depression was considered the most favorable outcomes for full recovery. With the use of antidepressants depression in now chronic and a bipolar boom has taken place. I myself had received about 32 treatments of ECT and the relief of symptoms never lasted. It took me 8 months to wean off psych meds, and I have been medication free 6 months and my life is better. Read Anatomy of an Epidemic

[jraydunn]

so how do we fight the money power system, the last phrase of the first amendment to the contsitution; the right of the people to peaceabally assemble, and petition the government for a redress of grievances. its gonna take more than you tube videos and books, those are part of the solution to help gain mass awareness of whats happening, but ... physical assembly of people in agreement to help free those of us diagnosed with a mental health "illness".

[jraydunn]

doctor dude, I know its confusing, freedom and choice is being eliminated in trade for control and false peace for the "greater good". yeah its like organized religion, except with science, the cult of organized science.

[jraydunn]

doctor dude, I know its confusing, freedom and choice is being eliminated in trade for control and false peace for the "greater good"

[7arimus]

As a psychologist,  have had severe patients referred, never by me. but is brutal if you ask me. just the Myth of Mental Illness by Szasz if you ask me

[7arimus]

As a psychologist, have had severe patients referred, never by me. but is brutal if you ask me.

[lulu8332]

i have anciety and get benzodiazipine but the best cure for me is to chilling out with my wife and listen to pink floyd ..i recommend shine on - great gig-time-echcos i share your concern about druggin children . i took too much drugs when i was a kid ... and now i see the same thing (amfetamine) e.t.c being given too kids.. i dreed fore the future what are they thinking? besides profit,,,of course is there a bigger plan ?. even i my homeland (demmark) they are doing this..

[FlyKingRy]

HORRIFIC AND REDICULOUS

[FlyKingRy]

Electro Convulsive Therapy, - Speaks for itself. 

I'm a Victim of Brain Mutilation + Electro Shock + Trauma Bonding.

IT SUCKS!

R.P.W.

[Nguli34689]

Whatever happened to N.A.P.A.the Network Against Psychiatric Assault?

[squizzy1969]

I have had this done to me via word or name Association to make it look like I suffer from Paranoia Schizophenia or to force Alzheimer's disease onto me . It is not a nice thing to do to someone. It is inhumane and corruption on a major scale

I just did a google and found I WAS starting to suffer:

The most noticeable deficit is memory loss, which shows up as difficulty in remembering recently learned facts and inability to acquire new information.

[AccessorizeAlways]

omg its practiced in atlanta, i was in the looney bin (yes ok i'm bipolar i'm not ashamed so what) anyway, how the fuck can you court order that, i know that we are corrupt, but how can that be court ordered like in public???????????? I thought any corrupt stuff was undercover. I thought mentally ill patients had fucking rights??????

[AccessorizeAlways]

and you look american indian

[AccessorizeAlways]

i'm not promoting coke here, but honestly, you might as well have a kilo of coke if you are that depressed, and this is coming from a person that suffers depression, i think that is safer or at least much more fun (y es i have done it but i stopped ok?) than doing ect if you think you are that depressed that you want ECT, you get what i'm saying? I feel that is better than killing yourself or doing ECt, if you just feel you can't go on, i know what it feels like, not for long long long long

[AccessorizeAlways]

periods like years . Not promoting it but damn, if you have it for years? I would rather see someone do that..than have someone take them and do ect or see them take a gun and kill themselves, get what i'm saying?

[AccessorizeAlways]

the united nations is corrupt! unicef is corrupt

[macdisciple]

Qwack.

[Psychebert]

What is your opinion on ALPHA STIM ? is it related to ect in any way??

[invaderzimgir2007]

I think this guy is one of the few Psychologists that doesn't care about the money he gets or the kind of fame he gets, I think he's one of the few that actually care about the people. I agree with the antidepressant medications and the electroshock stuff. I did a report about psychotropic drugs and about how doctors actually get paid to perscribe them by the companies, how it creates problems for children, can cause suicide, and how several school shootings happened because of them.

[pinkpanthersix]

Try pot! Jk

[pinkpanthersix]

That's very educational, but uh try smoking some pot... That should fix them up.

Jk

[chrissys31]

good vid i totally agree with you about governmental ways with ect thanks for your education its interesting and much appreciated. Thanks.

[pyromaniaknl]

I thought these things where history? ECT, lobodomy. Only the uncureable insane gets them these days i think, people better of dead. My brother had medication which u can compare with heroin real bad stuff and it never worked it made him into a walking plant. Many farmaceuticals these days are bad its drugs, its all about money.

[spasemonkey05]

i had a freind as a child who when reaching 14 15 went a bit off the rails, mostly due to problems at home, anyway he was diagnosed a paranoid scitso and taken for treatment {E.S.T} and drugs, but when he came out he was compleatly destroy`ed to the extent he he had problems talking and even walking, thanks for puting this blog out because this cant go on.

[pyromaniaknl]

@spasemonkey05 Idd this is outrages! Allready sayd it but my brother had medication that made him slow, i sayd walking plant but he still got he's intelligence. I had him on the phone today and it takes a couple of seconds before he answers back, everything he says has uhhhh before it, always confused its sad.

[jmikejapan]

As a patient of this therapy. It does not work, it is damaging to the brain, I have lost most of the memories of my entire life, and it made me feel worse! I stopped taking meds and therapy and now 1 and a half years later, I feel better than the 14 years I was in treatment. Psychiatry is dangerous. I don't care if you believe me, but think this through if you are considering this treatment.

[MrVideoanarchy]

I do know someone. Just a few years ago in South Australia.

[MoaiMaea]

Whoops? I didn't know there are still countries that use electro shocks in medicine.

[MoaiMaea]

Right?

[magotcoveredbabies]

Funny how we talk about people who went through electro shock therapy when we dont know any of them personally.

[snow6768]

Exactly right

[candygir7]

It is not only torture, it is also severe harm of the brain and damaging it.

[candygir7]

if you torture almost anybody will be cooperative so they don't get tortured again.

[ladydragon7777]

the drugs dont work and never will work the americain people are blind sheep psycietrists are americas biggest drug deallers manny people do drugs because of psyciatrists they dope them up and force people to take drugs when they run out of monney or loose their medical they are dumped in the street and they turn to the eliegal drugs because they think they will make them better because they were brain washed in being told they need these drugs to live

[ladydragon7777]

it causes brain dammage i turns the paitents to become like zombies sometimes the dont even remember their own families or things or places they liked.cops and psychietrists kidnap and tourtur people every day locking people up like they are annimals i love it how scared the scumbags get when they get patients who threaten to sue them for kidknaping (kidknaping is when you take and captivate anyone against their will)

[vodka2k9]

get on with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[reneenicolea]

i am a current electroshock therapy, and it was only given with my informed consent, by the psychiatrist that i trusted, and it has definitely helped my depression.

[candygir7]

You probably had private insurance. Government paid insurance like Medicaid and Medicare is almost unlimited. They can then prescribe you 50 more, and fry your brains out.

[toolkills]

regardless of anyones oppinion on the psychiatry vs psychology debate...i think its safe to assume we all agree on one thing.....mental illness is one of the worst plagues upon our species.....it really seems like an evil....and the most frightening thing about it....we barely understand anything about it....i hope one day soon we hit a breakthrough in the area of treatment....people shouldnt have to suffer like this without hope...it really makes me fuckin sick

[candygir7]

Those organizing these criminals to give drugs and treatments that not only don't work but also harm people, those are the real psychopaths who need to be locked up and treated.

[Napalmxxx2]

I got a dull bladed chainsaw that would work for castration and a few cattle prods and a 500,000 volt taser for added fun with the idiots that torture other people and good friends with big guns.

[LORDGODSIRALEXFERGIE]

"It taints the soul and the spirit of those who do it!" Any practicing psychiatrists watching?

[P8NTBALLER987]

thats what fema camps will do in a few years

[kevbrav]

We already have the Tazer, whats next?

[6415100]

i know

[photo986]

In the late 1950's the CIA had a secret brainwashing program and they paid a doctor in montreal to carry it out using LSD Massive electric shocks and weeks of sleep as a brainwash tape played i am telling my story on you tube called youkilledyourmother

[HAJS5]

mhm

[brahud]

Electro-Shock is a "LAST RESORT"....just like a frontal lobotomy. I think capitalism creates markets in areas that are questionable. Capitalism doesn't belong in psychology or psychiatry. I appreciate people want to make things "different" but they don't know if it will make things better. Different isn't always good......better is good. I think there are some issues in regards to what people value. Many times...bad times will ride themselves out. What do you think?

[brentpieczynski]

You need to be subjected to ECT, that will help you admit your mental-illness. This only item for proving the mental-illness of you, will be the need for some sadist which enjoys torturing people, to list you as being mentally ill.

[brahud]

True....Additionally, I have a theory about how ECT causes the results it does as well. I believe that the key lies in memory loss. I believe this memory loss is useful in situational depression. If you keep having bad memories coming to your mind and ECT helps you forget them (albeit temporarily) it may be a short-term fix.

For example: I had a friend who was depressed from a recent divorce as well as alcohol abuse that preceded the divorce. His electroshock (through memory loss) helped.

[KrazzeeNobody]

I don't like the fact that my best friend died. Do you think I should carve out a piece of my brain where the memory is so I can be "happy"? There is no "good" and "bad" brain damage. There is just BRAIN DAMAGE!

[erikawa11]

@KrazzeeNobody, brain damage happens for so many reasons... accidents, drug interactions, strokes... at the end of the day, there may be no other option. I guess that gets to the crux of the issue of self-determination.... perhaps if you are willing to try anything, you are open to the possibilities of cure or not.

[fuzzbox5150]

no past no future only the present...that's what ECT does to you

[GordonsAllSeeingEye]

it's time for a taste of your own medicine you animals!

[GordonsAllSeeingEye]

Doctors Serve As Middleman Pushers

by Evelyn J. Pringle

[smmeegal]

ECT or suicide? these are the only options? thats a lie for starters.How incredibly therapeutic, they make a lot of $ out of doing this crap.

[nikitoulis]

Can a psycologist request a electroshock for a patient ?

[psychetruth]

No they would refer them to psychiatrists to order the treatment.

[andrew09211]

@psychetruth can you create multiple personalities on a victim of electro shock?

[aurits88]

Hi,i am a psychology student from uruguay,i'm doing some research about electroshok for a investigation so i am really into in this interview and the article which Dr. Breeding wrote(he mentioned it at 0:48")but my manage of english isn´t so well..i wonder if it's possible that you send me the interview or tell me where i can find it,and if you can add subtitles in spanish to this video,to share it with my classmates and teachers.Any info about electroshok you know will be great for me,thanks!

[FlowingGeisha]

John what's your other child's name and how old?

[wedrinkmountaindew]

did you know that modern day psychiatry was invented by the nazis?everything major that psychiatry currently knows about the human brain comes from the results of all those horric tests that were done by nazi scientists on people before and during world war two

[yesnoyesnothx]

again due to the fact that it was a painful time and we didn't really gain anything from it. so while i think, it is painful and useless, i wouldn't call it torture.

[yesnoyesnothx]

my father went through quite intense electro-convulsion therapy; and i'd hardly call it torture. there was a lot of memory loss; a lot came back and some didn't. for the time of the treatment he was totally heartbreakingly out of it. that contuned for months. but as of now...2 or 3 years later he has no serious lasting damage. he doesn't remember everything from that time, but i don't believe he is significantly worse off than before the treatment. that said, i would never want him to do it

[gothicsakura82]

are you blind? poor your father pal , despite the pain he went thru ,having such a sensless son .....

[yesnoyesnothx]

huh?

[jayacts]

Wow, this is disgusting! People should do more research. My friend's mother went in for back pain and was given Electroshock as "treatment" and suffered irrepairable brain damage. WHAT???

[ukatinato]

After all, its a group of humans making decisions and humans coming up with this illness.. they should of called schizophrenia some kind of intelligence.

[fuzzypupmisty6935]

Using electricity to "cure someone"is definetly torture

[MachineAmbition]

Amputation sounds like torture as well. ECT is less drastic than that, granted it is on the brain. That's actually why mental pain is the worst and that people will go to such lengths to feel better. Short-term memory loss is a gift compared to severe depression - some people kill themselves not necessarily for irrational reasons, but because they can't stand one more second of the anguish they feel.

[xxvscorpionixx]

great video i give it 5 stars

[justmom66]

I absolutely agree with Dr. Breeding

[MachineAmbition]

I don't consider all ECT use torture. Mental illness exists, sometimes causes brain damage itself (bio or not) - ECT is extreme only. Psychiatry isn't essentially discriminatory, except when studying broad social trends, mostly access to treatment. Think about the logic used here: insulin injections were psychiatric cruelty, but saying all insulin injections are torture is wrong and would be irrelevant to diabetics. They need more drugs, relapse without maintenance, and injections are a risk.

[MachineAmbition]

Also, as someone being "mind-controlled" with substances, I prefer this "torture" to the torture and anguish of my own mind. Involuntary treatment makes me cringe, but I personally believe that sometimes people (including myself) are unable to help themselves. I gave this "confession" before anyone coerced me. I had threatened myself plenty before that and because I wanted to avoid accepting any and esp. psychotropic drugs at all costs. That attitude almost killed me. Now, I "control" myself.

[psychetruth]

Insulin injections are a bad analogy.

Insulin is a natural substance which is suppose to be in the body.

The human brain never naturally has 240 volts of electricity coursing through it. When that happens it causes a grand mal seizure which is also something a healthy body does not ever do.

[MachineAmbition]

Insulin injections are an imperfect analogy, but that doesn't make it without relevance. Insulin isn't supposed to be injected - that's an unnatural means of delivery. Drugs pretty much manipulate someones brain or body to produce or stop producing or change someone's neurochemicals i.e. agonists, antagonists, reuptake inhibitors, etc. The human body naturally produces cholesterol, but does not naturally produce b12. Whether the body naturally produces something isn't the only consideration.

[billodowdy]

Theoretically in 800 years the physics of neuromechanics and the complexities of the chemical basis of human though might be understood, the impact of such an understanding would render us able to reverse engineer personality and even free will. To say in 2008, that psychiatric drugs are anything but bloodletting for the electron microscope age, and to call them a 'treatment' for a known disease is an obscenity. Insulin is just a red herring, not worth talking about in this context.

[psychetruth]

B12 is a bad analogy as well. It's a nutrient which is required for all living humans.

Prozac, Zoloft, Risperdal, Ritalin, etc. are not nutrients and are not required for life.

[MachineAmbition]

It's not that bad of an analogy. Sometimes people do/take these things because they will likely be dead if they don't, therefore prologuing survival. I don't like it, but not everyone has the time/money/will to cure themselves. Acupuncture isn't required for life, and yoga isn't required posture - we can live without all of that. Yet those might chemically or (if ECT/drugs don't change chemicals in the brain) psychologically alter the brain or body, however, and their effects be useful.

[psychetruth]

It's a horrible analogy, No psychotropic drug is required for the vital functioning of the body, period.

The best argument you could attempt to make is that maybe some people would kill themselves without the drug but even that's a lame argument since CDC data show that more than half of all suicides are already taking psychotropic drugs.

[MachineAmbition]

Because half of all suicides are already taking psychotropic drugs does not mean that such drugs do not prevent more suicides or delay suicide. If you even delay suicide, the person has time to prevent it by learning to eat better and do things they probably couldn't do once their depression became severe.

We're not talking about vital functioning unless we are talking about people living or dying. Or if we take it to mean "important," then I'd have to disagree. It's about quality of life.

[MachineAmbition]

If you'd say quality can't include drugs, then your idea of quality is hopelessly inadequate. Personally, I think medication can be used to provide people who would need to be supervised to remain safe to go back into the world, have privacy, and start doing the things they needed to be doing in the first place. After that, drugs are only there if the interventions you propose have been tried to the best of someone's ability and don't help enough, or if they are unable to maintain health w/out.

[psychetruth]

Google, "mentally ill die 25 years earlier, on average".

[MachineAmbition]

Interesting article. I think long-term antipsychotic use is a mistake: these drugs alone basically don't fix things, but ideally can allow or help someone to do something for themselves. The article points out the other conditions anti-psychotics may be exacerbating & definitely are in other cases. The point of the article is that treating the whole person is crucial. It's more of a problem w/ the growing change in additude of many psychiatrists - once someone has a drug, they ignore them.

[psychetruth]

There is no conclusive proof the drugs prevent suicide either.

1) CDC data shows suicidality outcomes are better with CBT than drugs.

2)The suicide rates have gone down about 10% since 1985 but the antidepressants prescriptions have gone up 1000%.

3) Most suicide attempts are through self poisoning.

4) It very hard to OD on SSRIs but easy on Tricyclics.

5) Data in Sweden and the US indicate increase suicide attempts but fewer completed suicides.

[MachineAmbition]

1)I think antidepressants should only be used in cases where other therapy does not help.

2)1000% = overprescribed, but perhaps some of that is correctly prescribed. It's not proportional - Most people w/ depression aren't suicidal, treatment of any type may prevent their becoming so. Prescriptions aren't guarantees that people take them as prescribed.

3-5)Pills take a while to help. Self-poisoning is why there are less completed suicides & indicates why SSRIs have largely replaced tricyclics.

[gothicsakura82]

if these drugs where any help at all , people who take them wouldnt be killing themselfs

[MachineAmbition]

That isn't good logic. If the drugs were perfect, only then would noone taking the drugs kill themselves. No one suggests the drugs help everyone, or that it helps even the people who do tolerate them and find them effective to the same degree. If the drugs were *any* help at all, some people would benefit from them. That's all, and that is pretty clear. A better argument from you might be: These drugs harm more than help, drug advertisement is not only misleading, but dangerous, etc.

[gothicsakura82]

so you do drugs?

[MachineAmbition]

Where did that come from? No, I don't, because I don't need them.

[gothicsakura82]

so try some , then you can tell me if they destroy instead of help , ask any shrink if they would get some ect or heavy pscho-drugs , of course the answer is no

[MachineAmbition]

I did, however, take drugs for about a year, when I did need them and had no other options (because of my mental state). Yes, they helped, but they are meant for a short period of time. They are not a cure, and no one says they are, but they served a purpose in my life. By your logic, you should be listening to my authority on the matter now, but I doubt I've changed your mind.

[gothicsakura82]

all i know is that all the people ive seen taking such drugs are worst than they were before they take them, and its not going to change my mind what anyone thinks or says , ive seen it , sorry

[MachineAmbition]

If that's all you know and all you've seen, then maybe you need to learn and see more. I don't expect you to throw out what you've seen, but any logical person should change their stance on something with more evidence, esp. when contrary. I may yet change my mind based on further experience. Instead of closing the door and challenging me (you've seen your side, but I've LIVED something else) - why not try to challenge your own beliefs? I used to watch this channel for "the other side."

[gothicsakura82]

no in fact i dont have to learn more , evidence on what ? the evidence shows that this kills people , thats it

[MachineAmbition]

Your evidence is experiential & so is mine, only mine is firsthand, something you seemed to value when you told me to take the drugs and see what they did. I have done so already. It didn't kill me or the people I know who were also on them, so obviously there is something wrong, or at least very extreme, general and dogmatic about your views. Of course some people are hurt by these drugs - especially when they are lightly presecribed and taken for a long time, but that's not the whole truth.

[gothicsakura82]

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[MachineAmbition]

Is that supposed to be sleeping? Suit yourself.

[billodowdy]

You are clearly wholly under the control of psychiatric ideology and show a complete lack of independent thought or even an understanding of psychiatry. Simply saying 'mental illness exists' is an obscenely meaningless statement. Without defining what you 'think' it is, and then going on to say 'it' causes brain damage, which is a lie, you venture into completely indoctrinated territory by saying access to treatment is the only rights issue in mental health. You're very much under control.

[MachineAmbition]

billodowdy, if you'd put aside the ad hominem logical fallacy & treat me as a person worth critisizing in a meaningful way, I will be more able to consider your opinions and more likely to change my mind on the issue. Trust me, I have adjusted my opinions many times without consulting "psychiatric ideology." There is also something that isn't helpful called "anti-psychiatry ideology." Understanding the issue from multiple perspectives is my aim, but I can only offer my experience and knowledge.

[tttaaa3]

Very shocking video. And I'm not kidding...

[carsonleroi]

this was done to my father 3 or 4 times when he came home from korea. his mind was a very small "loop" after the last "treatment" and they stopped just short of a lobotomy!(thankfull?) the VA fried my fathers brain(+ other kinds of torture) over what we would now call post traumatic stress syndrome and it was not that bad. I REALLY cant believe all that happened to him... god rest your soul Dad..

[mcurren2004]

What happened to supposed "Human Rights"?

[c16467]

"Human Rights" is only a concept in a dictionary unless we demand together in a shoulder to shoulder effort to decry profligate, government supported/protected evil. "Human Rights" belong to Humanity, not just the connected, the rich or privileged. If we do not do something effective and soon then the concept of "rights" will become archaic itself

[mcurren2004]

Well said. I had no idea ECT was still being forced on people 'til viewing Dr. Breeding's messages..thot it'd been phased out in 60's. Makes me want to gag.

[MachineAmbition]

Corporate advertising is in my mind against human rights, or at the very least, human dignity - there are too many things that qualify. Lines must be drawn, and preferably not those taken from the dictionary, but from the ever-changing opinions of the people itself. Unfortunately, it must be based on reason, and the "masses" prefer opiates. Science is so high-funded it is essentially elite, and facts are a controlled, warped media. To me, that means the war is pretty much already lost.

[7copyright]

The Police are ECT trained Too! they get shocked during certification process to use tasers! LoL that explains why some of them act how they do!

[araneus1]

I have a friend who is being subjected to this at the moment. I feel so helpless.

I sent her your video. I hope she watches it, and I hope that she takes action.

Thank you very much.

spider.

[TabooRealities]

According to a Teacher Training Manual from the National Training Institute for Applied Behavioral Science, normal children "may actually be in need of mental health care in order to help them change, adapt, and conform to the planned society in which there will be no conflict of attitudes or beliefs."

What has to be done to a child to get them to give up individual thinking?

ADHD is the symptoms of an individual who is being tortured.

[Ogre2011]

Orthomolecular Medicine, is the best way to cure mental illness.

[anyusmoon1]

Police use of TASER's is the same criminal abuse of power and should be called out for what it really is- SADISTIC TORTURE.

[webcat93]

I agree.  I think if you are going to have to kill the enemy, it should be quick.

[TheThomasShow]

Your right it's torture i would not condon it at all i cant beleive they still do this it's frightening to think one day it mighrt even be us at there mercy shit man its heavey

[AxiomofDiscord]

I have been the victim of Christian Torture I guess than.

[spencerdev91]

I felt 10x better after ECT treatments

[5DVz]

only 10?

[aalexander928]

The majority of the medical profession my friends and I encounter in New York City are arrogant beyond belief and at the top are psychiatrists. The bottom line for these people is money/profit and prestige. The welfare of the patient is only of concern as a means to profit. If this country keeps going in the same direction as it has been, you will see how truly ghastly most physicians are and will be. Of course, there are some wonderful doctors but they are in the minority.

[caketheory]

I think the problem is that the psychiatrists think they are helping the patient by giving ECT treatment. There not punishing the patient with "torture". So its a bit of a strange sitution where they think their helping but haven't realized that their actually harming the patient further. In a religious environment the miracle cure for the mentally ill is "exorcism". In a secular environment the miracle cure is "ECT". Any benefit in both scenarios would be placebo.

[terratagONE]

I myself have never had ECT but i can't see how shocking someone can make them feel better people shitting an pissing themselfs. I'm diagnosed as having schizophrenia an took all types of antipsychotic meds.The reason i don't like psychiatry is when you tell someone you have a mental health diagnosis you don't get work you don't find relationships an you always feel your never going to be understood.

[KobyBrandt]

That was a very powerful & compelling video. I had no idea that electro-shock (ECT) was (and is) being used so prevalently in this Country. What immediately came to mind was the Academy Award winning movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" starring Jack Nicholson. Perhaps we need more movies like that to make people more aware of these so-called "treatments" that are simply a mask for torture. It also makes me wonder just how many political prisoners have been institutionalized. This IS bizarre.

[KobyBrandt]

I'm also wondering how the legal system could support such (especially involutary) treatments, as I would think that it would be considered "cruel and unusual punishment" in the eyes of the law. Do you know if this obviously wrongful issue has ever been brought before the Federal Courts (or the U.S. Supreme Court) Dr. Breeding? If it hasn't, it definitely should be.

Thanks for the excellent discussion, and also for the illumination of such a hidden and extraordinarily disturbing issue.

[myohomojo]

Koby, Thanks once again for the suggestion. Have you ever heard of O'Connor v. Donaldson? It really shows how the legal system approaches these issues. It's "treatment". And "constitutionally" it cannot be denied to involuntary patients. How they can twist things...

[KobyBrandt]

No. But I've heard of it now. Thanks myohomojo.

"O'Connor v. Donaldson, 422 U.S. 563 (1975), was a landmark decision in mental health law. The United States Supreme Court ruled that states could not confine citizens to an institution (or similar) if they were non-dangerous and capable of living by themselves, or with the aid of responsible family or friends."

But who exactly determines "non-dangerousness"? Probably a judge. Back to square one. Yep, it does look like a twisted system.

[smartbandwidth]

koby: thanks for sharing these videos. just curious about you and your background. I would like to talk to you in person on the phone. please send me via youtube message system your phone number. thnks!

[KobyBrandt]

Feel free to message me smartbandwidth. P.S. I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist, so please, please, please, don't "share" your problems with me. :D

You'll have to pay another monkey to do that:

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[shadeofteal]

"Benefit" of ECT: it makes "round pegs fit into square holes". I personally know people who've had ECT, and, yes, some are so "squared" by it, they agree to whatever benefit-nonsense they're told. Most, though, regret they ever had it, struggling with severe and lasting side-effects.

What sort of arrogance makes the "squares" think they're superior to the "rounds" and may righteously wage (electric or any other kind of) war on them??

Thanks for posting this!

[Scum71succer]

My dad used to work in Psychiatry from somewhere early 70's (here in Holland, he was very happy that it got outlawed here.

[poisonedxveins]

I disagree wholeheartedly. I am a psychology student and I've volunteered throughout the inpatient mental health system here in Australia including in the ECT Suite in the biggest psychiatric hospital in my area in Australia. The majority of people getting ECT are voluntary, the majority get some benefit out of it when nothing else has worked, and it is not inhumane in any way anymore (I've seen the procedure performed many times, and seen the after effects, as well as heard personal stories).

[f417h]

lack of alternatives?

It is very primitive thought process

no thnx.....but thnx :)

[c16467]

Your self chosen moniker is a message in itself. I believe you are sincere but tragically deluded or whistling past a graveyard of your own making. You like it then have some for yourself please and let the rest of us keep what sanity we have. I disrespectfully disagree with you.

[poisonedxveins]

Funnily enough I probably will be having some ECT soon. Voluntarily. Yes, there are some bad side effects for some people, but when done correctly (no broken teeth etc.), it can grately improve severe depression. And if you've ever experienced severe depression you will do almost anything to get out of it. I think it's horrible that people assume that anyone who gets ECT voluntarily is deluded. We're DEPRESSED, not STUPID. And yes, I've tried everything you can possibly try except ECT.

[billodowdy]

There is no evidence there is anything wrong with your brain. You've been indoctrinated into psychiatric ideology, which is a religion, a faith based pseudoscience. Go ahead and destroy your brain even more than the drugs you take do. If you're not 'stupid', how come you never noticed that your 'doctor' never employed any diagnostic technology to figure out what 'disease' your brain has? You're hooked on psychiatry. Anyone who chooses shock is uninformed and being lied to by psychiatry.

[poisonedxveins]

A religion...? I already have a religion and it has nothing to do with psychiatry. I'm actually more a fan of psychology and the power of therapy than medication, but I do still believe that medication and sometimes ECT has a place in society. They both have negative AND positive side effects, you just have to weigh up the bad against the good. And for severely depressed people, sometimes ECT is their last hope. It can literally come down to ECT or suicide. The disease is called mental illness.

[billodowdy]

You disgusting evil indoctrinated fool. You claim electroshock is humane. You think standing there and seeing a misinformed lied to victim anesthetized is 'seeing it done' you're insane. Can you 'see' the destruction to the brain that is occurring. This is what severe depression is, initial human distress in a person that gets out of control because the doctor tells them it is a disease they have no control over and self fulfilling prophecy. You are part of the problem.

[poisonedxveins]

Misinformed, lied to victim? Everyone I have ever seen get ECT is informed of all of the side effects of ECT before they consent to the procedure. It is not dumbed down in any way and they are given all of the facts. Of course, this is in Australia where there are highly competent doctors and nurses. I can't comment on any other country and how they go about getting INFORMED consent from clients.

Severe depression has nothing to do with a doctor telling you you won't get better. THAT's insane.

[billodowdy]

Has anyone you've ever seen get shocked been shown the scientific evidence of a defect in their brain that was located and observed by their doctors, and was it explained to them how random electric shocks would heal the said lesion? And if not, how could such a glaring omission have been missed by you in your forming an opinion on the things you talk about. Severe depression has everything to with environment, and if the environment is filled with people telling you're diseased and notincontrol

[citizenX9328g]

I beg to differ re: being informed

Aged 19,I was led into a room,surrounded by horrific-looking machinery

I began to whimper with fear and plead with them not to do whatever it was they were about to do

I was restrained by a male nurse who said "trust me,I'm a christian"...

This happened in Israel,and was an episode in a sequence of gross "medical" incompetance

Many years ago (I'm 37 now)I tried to bring legal action against the doctor responsible - Dr Moshe Avnon (cont)

[citizenX9328g]

(cont)I was unable to bring any action,as Israel is beyond jurisdiction of the U.K. (although,we all know,Israel is answerable for nothing,and all the authorities are free to do what they do with impunity)

I learned to manage my condition myself,like so many others have - without any type of medication nor interference from the psychiatric industry

[citizenX9328g]

psychetruth and the channel bipolarorwakingup are the only people talking any compassionate sense,and I hope that between them,they can bring about a massive overhaul of the current system of torture and abuse

[citizenX9328g]

At the very least,I should have the inalienable right to decree that under no circumstances should I ever be given E.C.T. in the event I fall into the hands of the "medical establishment" again...

[RiniPeeg]

Look up psychiatric advanced directives: Some states have that, now.

[LORDGODSIRALEXFERGIE]

Thank you. I looked up psychiatric advance directives - very interesting!

[mryellow123]

Australia has been very bad with use of ECT also. Was surprised when I foundout we still did it here actually, after all the bad shit. Do you remember the clinic that got busted?

[poisonedxveins]

Which clinic? What did it get busted for? Sounds interesting.

[toolkills]

i totally agree

[soccom8341576]

The US is not a democracy and not even a Republic now.

This is scary, and it's not far away. With the negligence and apathy and ignorance we have nowadays, it will happen very soon.

You see? The tools in which a totalitarian state (most likely global in scale, NWO) are being advanced and pushed until they can impose full control on anyone.

[davidnightingale]

This makes me think of the question, "What do you want to do when you grow up?" Makes you think about the kind of people who would do this to other people, and who are the real people with the mental proplems. The patients are told they are the ones who are sick, you have to reverse think a lot of things in this world to understand who the really sick people are.

[Seabrook78in]

Wow thanks for another good video Dr. Breeding.

[kornfan52627]

MKULTRA!