Serious Injuries on a Qantas A330 Flight on 7 October 2008

[resotaz]

note: sorry for my bad english...

[resotaz]

Hi all. The investigation by the ATSB has identified a default of the ADIRU equipping the A330, A340 and B777. During a failure, they do not come out of the loop by themselves, and send alarms many contradictory (false information such as overspeed, stall, altitude ....) If pilots realize that the fault comes from the ADIRU and want to switch it off (off), it stays on! So they have to put out the fuse, and it will be well explained by an airworthiness directive text of this aircraft.

[praetorian2150]

aka the plane fell outa the god dam sky outa nowhere

[Ananananiful]

did a qantas plane ever crash? if it never did the posebilety that it will crash while i´m on board is higher. I mean even Lufthansa did crash once cause of a lightening. Nothing u can do if that happens....

[seanus991]

qantas has actually never crashed, they hve just had accidents when people are just injured

[14waltersn]

This can't be from the autopilot or hydralics or electronics. Indonesia and Northern Australia has one of the most severe turbulances in the world. This sudden altitute change must be from a massive turbulance that dropped them like 6000 feet in 2 seconds. I've experience one on the same type of aircraft but from MAS from CGK to KUL. dropped around 2000 feet a second.

[carrollcrescent]

It's not just the aircraft. The pilots may not be well -trained, eg. Greg Panazzolos of FO of QANTAS.

[falconeaterf15]

Military aircraft have used fly by wire since the 70s, but they also had a "mechanical-mode" for emergency use when the electronics failed. Seem a good idea to have both. Planes have crashed from hydraulic failure. Planes have crashed from fly by wire foul ups. None have crashed from simultaneous system failures. I would gladly trade 1500 pounds of "entertainment" sytem for its weight in a hydraulic control back up system!

[tornadochaser76]

i live here - just being fussy

[tornadochaser76]

you seem to know alot about the whole situation....

tell me again...where is Exmouth? and can you pronounce it properly?

[airsafe]

Exmouth is a few miles NW of Learmonth. If you look at the video at 0:38, you'll see a graphic with Exmouth. A graphic with Learmonth is at 0:24.

As for pronunciation of Exmouth, I listened to a few Australian television news reports and give it my best approximation (or at least the best I could do after four takes).

[msjr777]

The plane drop could have been caused by a hurrican type com space which would cause gravity lost.That would cause a drop.

[zenrising]

I flew Qantas from Singapore to Perth exactly one week before, on the same flight number. Yesterday I had to fly back on Qantas. It's the last time I'll ever fly with that airline. The safety record is plummeting faster than their aircraft.

Upper management at Qantas has cut so many costs it's now an unsafe airline to fly, with so many incidents now that they're more akin to a second world airline. But those at the top don't care much - their retirement funds are secure, so why change things.

[ansettaddict123]

its not unsafe just not as safe as it once was... too much media dramatisation:(

[timefilm]

Nonsense! Qantas has the highest safety record of any airline. The problem here isn't with qantas, it's with airbus. They're planes are fully computer controlled. give me Boeings puppet wire controlled planes ANYDAY

[FeelFree3]

But Airbus A330 has much better safety record than boeing 747.

[timefilm]

there have been about 1500 747's produced since 1960's with 122 incidends

there are about 500 a330's produced since the 1990's with 7 incidents

statistically speaking, 747 is doing pretty well

[ansettaddict123]

its still shit even though the stats say otherwise... btw if ur getting that dadat from wikipedia dont trust it:) some of them dont even have fatalitys or even injurys for that matter

[ansettaddict123]

yes qantas soes, not for much longer if drastic costcutting and outsourcing maintinence continues!! btw all boeings are shit... esp the 747

[timefilm]

I'll have to disagree with you on all boeings are shit, especially the 747. considering they have been the most sccessful of all airline production

[ansettaddict123]

meh, the 747 got international air travel to where it is today but the a380 shits all over it:)

[timefilm]

The a380 is an impressive plane and highly advanced. maybe a little too advanced. it has no manuel back up systems and has not time proven itself yet. I'm ready to eat crow, bt I'll be waiting a few years before i trust it's true reliability.

As i work at an airport and see it frequently i must say... It's kind of ugly. the 787 is tipped to be a lot safer and lot more advanced.

but i think both teams need to understand these are aircrafts, not spaceships.

[ansettaddict123]

yes i agree, the a380 looks like crap but is in a leauge of its own inside:) , i hate the 787's design and much prefer the a350 (yes they look the same on promos but the a350 will be much improved on the 787) and may i also point out ur immense contradiction, "maybe a little too advanced" and the 2nd paragraph "and lot more advanced" the 787 may be slightly more advanced than the a380 but its airbus commonality that makes an a320 pilot able to fly an a380 in 18 short days!!!

[timefilm]

no contradiction. too advanced due to it's flybywire. The new boeings too will be flybywire but retain the hydrolic cables. the world is not ready for fully electric. it's just a computer, and computers always crash for a multitude of reasons. 747 pilots here is australia trained for 2 weeks on the a380. they all have a commonality. Airbus takes all it's notes from boeing. Boeing certainly takes notes in return. they all bounce off each other. it's an industry. Im fence sitting the a380 for now

[ansettaddict123]

i agree with the airbus thing, not with the a380 though!!! boeing is way behind in that market... airbus is trepresenting the new way everything will be done, meanwhile boeing is still using its relatively outdated hydralics... btw there is every chance that cables can snap, not move, fail or just do the opposite to what their told, as a famous philosipher once said, "every new solution breeds new problems"

[timefilm]

wouldn't you rather fly outdated yet time proven hydrolics over electric impulses telling a computer to activate a robotic? call me old fashioned, but if those outdated hydrolics fail, the pilots can still control the plane.

[ansettaddict123]

i dont really care:) just remember that electronics need time to prove themselves, just as hydralics did

[donboy2000]

Mate, you speak in an American accent and might I add that you guys have a myriad of fatalities over there. Yet, you trumpet on about four incidents within a decade.

You my friend are an imbecile.

[zenrising]

If you look, you'll see that they've uploaded videos on air accidents and incidents all over the world, not just Qantas.

What are you, on the board of directors at Qantas or something? Only an idiot would object to such incidents being reported and subjectively commented on.