Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
is it just me, or is Norman trying really hard to be as intelligent and as well thought out as William? When you have to try to portray a certain image of yourself to the public, its usually because the real part of you nobody likes...like the wife beating thing?
I don't understand why you sexually-frustrated hacks have to slander Norman with the charge of narcissism. First rule of public speaking is you have to enjoy the sound of your own voice. I can see all the right-wing stutterers of America aiming their arrows at the smiling portraiture of Mr. Mailer. Losers.
The prolonged inhalation of smoke & particulates irritates & damages the respiratory system; imbibing excessive amounts of alcohol over a period of years damages the liver & gastrointestinal tract. The body must reconcile the damage through a healing process by producing & implementing trophoblastic (anaplastic) cells.
Once completed errant trophoblasts must be destroyed. A person whose diet is deficient in nitrilosidic foods (those rich in Amygdalin) is incapable of stopping the over-production of these malignant cells and thus this person has cancer.
Proper evolution, chemical & otherwise, requires extraordinary patience. ALL pictures of Frank Sinatra alive were taken before his death. A bitter placement: part your legs vs. part with your legs.
The prolonged inhalation of smoke & particulates irritates & damages the respiratory system; imbibing excessive amounts of alcohol over a period of years damages the liver & gastrointestinal tract.
The body must reconcile the damage through a healing process by producing & implementing trophoblastic (anaplastic) cells. Once completed errant trophoblasts must be destroyed. A person whose diet is deficient in nitrilosidic foods (those rich in Amygdalin) is incapable of stopping the over-production of these malignant cells and thus this person has cancer.
I shall witness my hair exiting my head in distressingly-luxurious clumps, as God decrees it as His every want, directive & direction is Divine Right, and righteous by fact. My forehead shall reach further back-ways heading around-aboutly asswards. I'll be able to reach the floor without consolation; the ceiling without upchucking leftwardly and points the other way with an umbrella.
I always love Buckley's opening statements where he introduces the person he'll be interviewing. I wonder what he'd say about me, were I lucky enough to be interviewed by such a powerful and elegant speaker.
At 7:15 Mailer is so lost and unable to keep up with Buckley's semantics that he can't even hide it. The diversionary joke he then cracks is a poor cover. Whatever one thinks of Buckley's political beliefs, one should conceed that Buckley was a master of speech and debate.
I want to be able to do that glaring smirkish thing he does with his eyes... I should think it would attract some females and invariably repel others.. Either way, I find it damned awesome.
As a pathetically trapped "intellectual", you show thinking of breathtakingly limited dimensions. There is 'genius' in music, visual arts, even physical/athletic performance. But buttfuckers like you are like telescopes--you see this almost-invisible star, and you think you see all this meaningful detail. But everyone else sees the sky in toto. You don't see the constellations, or ANYTHING else but for one pissant spot.
the irishsman awkward letfy, vs the narcissist who's echo's from his own voice off the walls keeps him sexually aroused.. one writes like and angel one speaks like an angel
Buckley, for all his gifts as a debater and columnist, was a terrible novelist, offering us a series of abysmally juvenile spy novels, efforts that could have been authored by a precocious teenager. As for the reference to narcissism [ haupper] , Buckley fairly glowed, almost radio-actively, with a particular strain of high minded self importance. Half earned, half pathological.
You got it all backwards. I am an Honorably discharged 100% disabled American armed forces member - Navy.
Buckley was, and (since he's been immortalized in various media) is, a full-blown Fascist pig... maybe you are one as well, sunshine. Otherwise, why on earth would you defend this poor excuse of a man?
Good luck "waltherppk1000." Bet you have a small dick too.
Hey, that's okay, manno. Just differences in opinion. I know it can be frustrating sometimes. I don't really think of myself as closed minded. But, what do you think when so many are not in agreement with how you feel? That has to at least make you question yourself sometimes, no?
@gcgwgc Buckley was dangerous, his family had ties to Chilean fascists, including the only succesful car bombing in Washington D.C., and Buckley spread dis-information about that case.
Mailer dodges the question about whether an artist should be above the law, but that is surely what he thought--when he helped Jack Abbott out of prison early, based on the "genius" of his book, In the Belly of the Beast, rather than on his ability to live in the outside word. And shortly afterward, Abbott knifed and killed a waiter, who was a playwright. Although horrified, Mailer was unable, at last, to exculpate himself completely, when it was about someone's life, and not his ego...
Many commenters here have been wondering about Buckley's accent. An old book called The Official Preppy Handbook calls it the "New England nasal nip." Someone who talks this way will often pause and "ahhh" in an attempt to sound offhand, to seem to be groping for words. But the pause will be followed by an astonishing flow of polysyllabic Latinate words like "animadversion," all gracefully deployed in a sentence so syntactically complicated that most contemporary Americans would get lost in it.
@dnggitg Just trying to clarify, but isn't it a mid-atlantic accent? The internet says it is. I am from New England and do hear this accent in various locations so that's why I'm confused. New England commonly gets stereotyped with the Boston accent but you'd be surprised to frequently hear this accent.
"Buckley was a supporter of Joe McCarthy"...no kidding. If he is to be sent to the third circle of Hell for that association--what are you going to do with the Kennedys? RFK was counsel on McCarthy's committee, one of the Kennedy sisters dated McCarthy, JFK at Harvard yelled at a dinner, when McCarthy was linked with Alger Hiss as an undesirable ""How dare you couple the name of a great American patriot with that of a traitor!" Old Joe K helped finance McCarthy.And Joe Jr. is McCarthy's godson.
@halfmace Buckley was supporting McCarthy in this century not just the middle of the last. One can be sure the Kennedys would have revised their opinion as they matured. Buckley on the other hand never did mature. He maintained the same old ideas as his father bequeathed him. His sclerotic ideas remained with him right to the grave.
You don't have to explain yourself to me. I don't mind if you steal hours away from your employer endulging your obsession with yours truly. lol
@joblow696 The Kennedys, being the power maniacs that they are, thought they saw their main chance with McCarthy and his populism. They shifted Left once they realized that the McCarthy meal ticket had run it's course. They would have been very happy as commie hunters if the power elites had shifted in that direction.
The ruling class can afford my attempts to educate you.
@halfmace Only a fool would think Shankar would have any sympathy with a fascist bully-boy like Lewis. Spoiled little darlings like you who think it such fun to flirt with fascism should do some traveling. There are many places in the world suffering under the kind of governments so appealing to pampered fops like Lewis, safely away from it all ,protected from the kind of jack-booted rubbish he was so enamored with by the good fortune of having been born and raised in a democracy. Wake up.
@joblow696 "the impression has been growing upon me that everyone is dead.
It happens when I speak to people. In the middle of a sentence it will come over me: yes, beyond a doubt this is death. There is little to do but groan and make an excuse and slip away as quickly as one can. At such times it seems that the conversation is spoken by automatons who have no choice in what they say.and I think to myself: this is death. "
@halfmace Yes, this is the kind of disassociative state an emotionally acarpous sensibility is prone to. The best remedy for this type is sucide. Alas they never have the guts for it so they yowl for someone else's blood. After all they're only "automotons" not deserving of life like self-anointed geniuses. Ridiculous nonsense.
@joblow696 as expected, your superficial Google encounter with Lewis has left your brain addled. Not unusual. The brain that has been spoon fed inanities often has such a reaction. Return to your book burning, it will make you feel better.
@halfmace You're going to wind up a drooling wreck like your depressing hero if you don't watch it. Try and get out and get a little fresh air. Whatever it is you're secretly itching for would be alot better than sitting around dreaming dreams of a fascist paradise with the long dead and forever buried Lewis. Lets face it , he's been swept out the historic back door along with all the other dust.
@wraithby A leftist philistine, plaguing this comment board, has difficulty understanding that Art is independent of ideology.
This sans culotte would like any dissident, who fails to adopt Leftist twaddle, should be subjected to psychological control a la Brezhnev's socialist paradise of the 1970s.
@halfmace If an author pens a book extolling the virtues of Adolph Hitler he has wholly embraced an ideological position. Consequently he is fair game for analysis on an ideological basis. Where would anyone get the idiotic idea that art is independent of the time in which it is created? It is also truly a reflection of incurable political philistinism to liken every left-leaning argument to be the equivalent of the Stalinist Soviet Union. You declare yourself a fool when you do so. Be civil.
@joblow696 no such word as "philistinish". Unlike you I don't judge works of art based on the creator's political ideology. Some of the greatest works of art and literature, of the 20th century, came from the hands of political leftists. I may loath their politics, but I would not use such an infantile criteria to judge their art.
Ezra Pound proved to be a political nincompoop, as a Fascist sympathizer, however both Left and Right artists awarded him the Bollingen prize.
@joblow696 Be civil?l....ha. I've perused your "civility" from the start of this exchange. Your "civility" almost mirrors the crazed pastor who will be burning Korans on 9/11.
I do not temper my responses to unceasing invective.
@halfmace You hero Buckley would approve of the pastor's actions. The truth of the matter is that all the major attacks on freedon of speech and expression in this country for the last century have come from your side of the ideological spectrum. Indeed your friend Buckley was a supporter of Joe McCarthy until the day he died. Read history and weep.
@joblow696 From my very first post you can see that I am hardly a Buckley hero worshiper. But close reading is required and you are more concerned with scoring points against chimeras.
@joblow696 President Wilson's efficient, executive smashing of free speech, leaves McCarthy's scattershot, efforts from an ineffective legislative position in the dust. Facts are inconvenient. Wilson, a man of the Left, is triumphant in the anti- free speech category.
The Left did quite a job building up Ol Joe to the modern equivalent of the bogeyman. That has paid dividends for 50 plus years. I can admire that as an exercise in power politics.
@halfmace Wilson can hardly be called "a man of the Left." He was only liberal, and moderately so, in his foreign policy initiative vis a vis the League of Nations. In all else he was for his times center right. In his policies towards labor for instance he was a typical reactionary of the ruling class. After all ,the Palmer raids and other draconian actions were against the Left. Throughout the last century the impetus towards censorship has come almost exclusively from the right.
@joblow696 The Left is notoriously sectarian. Wilson needed to eliminate those who weren't on all fours with his brand of "progress". Also his massive crackdown of any opponents to WWI and the growth of his war state. Right is incredibly broad category in your world view. But the Left has to be delineated very carefully. I don't buy it.
@halfmace Look at the Supreme Court rulings under Renquist for instance. There are many, many other examples. If you're not wearing your ideological blinders.
@halfmace Surely when you perused this exchange you saw that it was you who started the dialogue by calling me asswipe. That was very high-minded and sophisticated. The entire exchange has had nothing to do with ideas and everything to do with holding a fun-house mirror up to your anger-contorted mug. You don't like what you see. When I see the hours you spend doing this nonsense I have to question your mindset. There is certainly a problem. Are you homebound due to an illness? Sorry if so.
@joblow696 again with the hours....I'm amazed that you can't collect a few thoughts and type several paragraphs in less than hours. Unless your incapacity has short circuited your sense of time. This sort of things is reckoned in minutes,
Au contraire, you began with assumptions of my yahoo-ism based on your prejudices about geographic origin eg. your obsession with Kansas. I have no time for that sort of passive aggressive, -put someone in their place nonsense, based on pseudo sophistication.
@halfmace Lol Must I remind you again that you are online all day. Other people have lives. You are also reading the posts out of context. I remarked on Buckley's closetedness. You then responded with the highbrow asswipe crack. That is something other than passive aggressive, that is just crude. Your lack of self-insight is pathological. Your venomous nature prevents your seeing such things clearly. You are obviously a lonely man. P.S. You are aping Buckley exquisitely.
@joblow696 "Must I remind you again that you are online all day."
I'm a systems analyst if I weren't- I wouldn't get a paycheck. Yours is one of many viruses that I have to deal with. Only difference is yours is pro bono. But I think I'm helping. I see some minute growth from you.
@joblow696 "I have to question your mindset. There is certainly a problem."
You've psychoanalyzed anyone who disagrees with you. You derive great satisfaction by projecting various syndromes as if you were decorating a Christmas tree. Do you find yourself often unable to relate to concrete persons and situations, without psychobabble?
Your sort of grandiosity is much more suspect that my inability to suffer fools. I shall adopt this sentence as my own. Please reflect on it and seek some help.
@joblow696 "political philistinism" ? Only an ideologue could concoct such a phrase. Philistinism is descriptive of deconstructions of art and culture not political ideology.
"Every left leaning argument" is not Stalinist. Anti-Stalinist liberals, non socialists, and Trotskyites were admirable enemies of Stalinism. However, those who indiscriminately toss around loaded ideological terms like "reactionary" to describe anyone to the right of Karl Marx, cannot be counted among that company.
@joblow696 Harrison's book is sub par. Kenner did such an exquisite job of showing that Harrison was not even familiar with the works. It's full of misquotes and misrepresentations. It's a work of political ideology.
I don't bother with screeds when I read something from a credible scholar who bases his criticism on the fact that the author is not dealing with the subject matter honestly. There is a plethora of excellent critical scholarship concerning the modernist writers,not Harrison.
@wraithby We were not discussing Lewis' paintings. We were discussing his ideological position regarding the Nazis during the thirties. He was pro. Surely even a philistinish type like yourself would welcome a painting by the communist Picasso. Or maybe not.
@joblow696 a profoundly ignorant post. By your (un) reasoning we must therefore reject the plays of Shaw (a noted leftist) and the works of H.G. Wells (another leftist) because they expressed ardent (early) support of Hitler and other fascists. That is the definition of philistinism. Read Lewis's books, "Hitler" (1931) which naively lauded Hitler,like many on the Left and Right at that time, and "The Hitler Cult" (1939), which firmly rejected Nazism-then you may make an intelligent point.
@halfmace There you go sputtering and fulminating again. Dear God , you do take yourself to be some kind of a cyber-intellectual. My exscuse for this nonsense is that I'm homebound after a recent surgery. Soon I'll be back to work doing good and doing well. You, meanwhile, I fear will be trapped on here forever, forever channeling your pompous idols. Get out there and do something REAL! i mean this with a good heart. I really do. Life's too short to waste on these delusions of grandeur.
@joblow696@joblow696 "fulminating...sputtering...pompous idols...cyber intellectual....delusions of grandeur."
Doing good indeed! I wonder what your negative output is when you are up and about at full speed. Sorry to hear that it takes you a full work day to pump out a few paragraphs. My gems take several minutes.
@halfmace Lol That's because you're online all day! Even in beantown there must be better things to do. Get out there. Have sex with someone other than yourself. Breathe the honeyed air before this summer slips away forever. Do something good for someone. Drink a beer, watch a ballgame, eat some beans. Give your fingers a rest and the rest of us a break.
@joblow696 these wonderful things aren't available to us reactionary rubes from Kansas and/or suburbs....sigh...but we plug away annoying the complacent...
@joblow696 Not discussing, you were bloviating. You rejected worth of WL, both literary and painter, due to your comic book understanding of his position vis a vis fascism.
A scene in Annie Hall fits you: an empty suit is bloviating about Marshall McLuhan, while in a movie queue. Woody Allen steps out of line and produces MM and he denounces the nonsense of the empty suit. Priceless.
Marshall McLuhan, also a dedicated admirer of W. Lewis. He must also be worthless in your eyes.
@wraithby Why don't you make some art of your own instead of this childish hero-worshipping in cyberspace. You have no more understanding of what it means to make art than Lewis knew what it meant to have compassion for his fellow man. You're a poor geek who has nothing better to do than sit around playing the fool for absolutely noone---other than halfmace. lol You are definately a suburban boy. I would represent you as an invisible man. Annie Hall! That's rich!
@joblow696 coming from someone who believes that art must be subservient to politics, your personal vilification is understandable. You must destroy anyone who stands in the way of your political daydreaming.
I have no artistic abilities and am self aware enough to understand that. You, on the other hand, view your turds as works of art as they travel out of the bowl.Typical self indulgent bourgeois. No wonder you despise Lewis.
"beantown" is hardly a bastion of sophistication. That's why you must resort to such crude language. If you were from more sophisticased climes you would understand what I'm saying about Buckley's closetedness. Try to elevate your mind. Don't wallow so.
@joblow696 such high-mindedness coming from someone frantically searching for supposed homosexuals under every rock. Have you been sent to bore me? You've succeeded.
@halfmace Why are you so angry? Was it a brutish daddy? Perhaps if you learned to elevate your small mind out of the sewer of vulgarity and blind rage in which it is so deeply mired. Try to acculturate yourself to some of the higher and finer qualities of life. Things like art and literature and sensitivity to what is beautiful. Stop wallowing in your blind rage and knuckle-dragging coarseness. Make a stab at civility.
You spout every half-educated phrase known to pop culture. Your posturing as a "sophisticate" is a refuge of the fraud. Try breaking away from mass consensus opinions and renounce the cliche and the pose. Not everyone you agree with is a secret homosexual.
@halfmace You are fairly sputtering with rage. I seem to have gotten under your very thin skin. Why do you have such a problem with homosexuality? Do you really believe that homosexuality is something one can be accused of in this day and age? Only homophobic reactionary types such as you think this way. That is why I question both your level of sophistication and your true motivations. Both are intimately related. Speak to the point if you're to speak at all. Blind rage gains us nothing.
Nice try. You alleged WFB was a homosexual. Why so obsessed with his sexuality? Oh yes, someone who doesn't adopt your worldview has to be conflicted. Psychological reductionism at it's most banal.
Then you shifted to equally idiotic excursions into Kansas, "brutish dads" and now "homophobia" . Is the ad hominem the only arrow in your quiver?
All of this presented in your unctuous prose. Ugh, the poseur always makes me angry. Righteous anger.
@halfmace lol Lunatic anger I'd say. Don't you think it rather strange that you are working yourself up to such a froth over someone you don't even know? If you scroll back you will see that it is you who resorts to the ad hominen. Indeed in the most crude and vulgar manner. Instead of denouncing psychology you should make good use of some psychological counseling. Look up "projection ."
@joblow696 I'm smoking a Jamaican cigar and throwing down a brandy contemplating your lies, rather calmly.
You began by boring me, now I am quite fascinated. As a type you intrigue me. If you could see my mannerisms and hand gestures, you might take that as meaning I'm secretly homosexual, but I mean this in the non physical sense. I'm intrigued by your ability to revise your own actions.
Buckley is a secret homosexual. I'm a reactionary rube from Kansas. Continue to entertain me! Amazing.
@halfmace This is rich! You are truly a character. You would of course be a Wyndham Lewis fan. Did you read his lovely book circa 1931 about his hero Hitler? Seems Adolph was a great freedom fighter against encroaching commies.
You should really upgrade to Cubans. And take it easy with the brandy. It kills brain cells. You must conserve that limited resource.
@joblow696 very quick with the lightweight Wikipedia search of WL. Your provincial attitudes wouldn't allow you to confront an artist like Lewis.
Your sensitive brain could not take the rush of genius. Read further and see that he denounced Hitler later on. Leftists like H.G. Wells also were admirers of Hitler (early on), as were lightweights like Joe Kennedy. But this is too deep for you to take in. You must have your neat columns of goodies and baddies.
@halfmace lol I suspected you were one of these wickepedia types. Actually I'm well- versed in Lewis and his turgid works and "genius." He did indeed later renounce his earlier hero worship of the fuhrer. But it was at the very end of the thirties when it was way too late, long after small-minded sensation-seekers like him had done there damage. Damage which amounted to laying the intellectual groundwork for genocide. "Goodies and baddies" indeed.
@joblow696 I'll wait for the Castros to kick it before lighting up the Cubans. Big fiesta at your place when Raul steps in and renews the Revolution ?
@halfmace I sit here breathing deep the pellucid, lavender-scented ,air of my smoke-free environmen while sipping a delightful admixture of apple,carrot and kale juices, completely open and secure with my metrosexuality, certain of my moral superiority over my homophobic and latent political enemies, pitying them their procrustean inhibitions which distort not only their sexuality but also their political ideals, looking down on them from the lofty aerie of my intellectual superiority. I sigh...
@halfmace It is laughable. You epitomize the very small-minded mass-consensus thinking you accuse me of. You must take my earlier advice and struggle to get your head out of that mire of rage where someone has shoved it.
@joblow696 If I were a gifted enough satirist, you would headline my remake of the "Apes of God". You playing the part of the derivative buffoon, of course.
@halfmace The key to Buckley is that he was a closeted individual trying desperately to hide from himself. Quite pathetic. His ridiculous affectations and mannerisms only accentuated this internal conflict.
@halfmace NR was a contribution? Certainly not to the country. As to the charge of using a "tired Leftist tactic of attibuting homosexuality to political enemies" are you thinking of such political enemies as Joe McCarthy, Roy Cohn, or perhaps that Republican senator with the "wide stance." The conservative movement in America is rife with this kind of thing. It virtually explains the whole rotten enterprise. Where are you from----Kansas?
@joblow696 hey asswipe, I'm from your beloved Leftist backwater known as beantown...lived here all my life. Most Globe readers are almost as stupid as you, so I get where you are coming from.
@pinkjammies666 correction, Mailer is readable, to an extent. If you are looking for tips about how to smack women around, he's your guy.
Likewise, if you are a murderer on death row and need to sucker an "intellectual" into going to bat for you and generating publicity, Norman is also your guy. He wrote the handbook on the subject.
@halfmace How exactly did Gilmore "sucker" Mailer into "going to bat for him?" Gilmore confessed to the crimes he committed and insisted on being executed because he felt he deserved to be punished for his actions. He wasn't looking for anyone to defend him or feel sorry for him, nor was Mailer's portrayal of him the least bit sympathetic. Did you even read The Executioner's Song? And how exactly would Gilmore benefit from publicity generated by a book published after his death?
the peple who pay and decide will not have TELIVISION be intelligent. If you read NewYOrk review of books you are already part of a world.You will disagree and write and argue but you will never take to the streets or risk your time-share. Dark Ages indeed for our nation!
There are no intellectuals on television now. At least none on the cable news programs. Charlie Rose is probably the closest as far as the quality of the guests and the length of discussion.
If you have more Buckley/Firing Line footage please post it!
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A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
is it just me, or is Norman trying really hard to be as intelligent and as well thought out as William? When you have to try to portray a certain image of yourself to the public, its usually because the real part of you nobody likes...like the wife beating thing?
stringerboi 4 months ago
I don't understand why you sexually-frustrated hacks have to slander Norman with the charge of narcissism. First rule of public speaking is you have to enjoy the sound of your own voice. I can see all the right-wing stutterers of America aiming their arrows at the smiling portraiture of Mr. Mailer. Losers.
MetrazolElectricity 4 months ago 3
The prolonged inhalation of smoke & particulates irritates & damages the respiratory system; imbibing excessive amounts of alcohol over a period of years damages the liver & gastrointestinal tract. The body must reconcile the damage through a healing process by producing & implementing trophoblastic (anaplastic) cells.
TheManWithTVEyes 5 months ago
Once completed errant trophoblasts must be destroyed. A person whose diet is deficient in nitrilosidic foods (those rich in Amygdalin) is incapable of stopping the over-production of these malignant cells and thus this person has cancer.
TheManWithTVEyes 5 months ago
Proper evolution, chemical & otherwise, requires extraordinary patience. ALL pictures of Frank Sinatra alive were taken before his death. A bitter placement: part your legs vs. part with your legs.
TheManWithTVEyes 5 months ago
The prolonged inhalation of smoke & particulates irritates & damages the respiratory system; imbibing excessive amounts of alcohol over a period of years damages the liver & gastrointestinal tract.
TheManWithTVEyes 5 months ago
The body must reconcile the damage through a healing process by producing & implementing trophoblastic (anaplastic) cells. Once completed errant trophoblasts must be destroyed. A person whose diet is deficient in nitrilosidic foods (those rich in Amygdalin) is incapable of stopping the over-production of these malignant cells and thus this person has cancer.
TheManWithTVEyes 5 months ago
I shall witness my hair exiting my head in distressingly-luxurious clumps, as God decrees it as His every want, directive & direction is Divine Right, and righteous by fact. My forehead shall reach further back-ways heading around-aboutly asswards. I'll be able to reach the floor without consolation; the ceiling without upchucking leftwardly and points the other way with an umbrella.
TheManWithTVEyes 5 months ago
I always love Buckley's opening statements where he introduces the person he'll be interviewing. I wonder what he'd say about me, were I lucky enough to be interviewed by such a powerful and elegant speaker.
abrookins2006 5 months ago
At 7:15 Mailer is so lost and unable to keep up with Buckley's semantics that he can't even hide it. The diversionary joke he then cracks is a poor cover. Whatever one thinks of Buckley's political beliefs, one should conceed that Buckley was a master of speech and debate.
hoosierteacher 6 months ago
@hoosierteacher Buckley was a master of Omphalokinepsisology.
rayjr62 5 months ago
P.B.S. = Pretentious Bull Shit
TheManWithTVEyes 6 months ago
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krane121 5 months ago
@krane121 : Your interest in little boys seems harmless enough.
TheManWithTVEyes 5 months ago
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krane121 5 months ago
I want to be able to do that glaring smirkish thing he does with his eyes... I should think it would attract some females and invariably repel others.. Either way, I find it damned awesome.
CosmosFan1 6 months ago
@fromis111, Loser!!
As a pathetically trapped "intellectual", you show thinking of breathtakingly limited dimensions. There is 'genius' in music, visual arts, even physical/athletic performance. But buttfuckers like you are like telescopes--you see this almost-invisible star, and you think you see all this meaningful detail. But everyone else sees the sky in toto. You don't see the constellations, or ANYTHING else but for one pissant spot.
Ignor-anus.
g17y5wb 7 months ago
SNORE
IntoTheMeatGrinder 8 months ago
@IntoTheMeatGrinder someone with so much adhd junk favourited shouldn't be on a video like this in the first place
sclapione 7 months ago
@sclapione somebody who stereotypes like you isn't capable of making an educated statement
IntoTheMeatGrinder 7 months ago
@IntoTheMeatGrinder One doesn't need an education to see that your whole page is full of absolute shite. I'm guessing, so is your brain.
Got anymore bottomless comments, you dull twat ?
sclapione 7 months ago
@sclapione Nope, you're doing a good enough job in the stupid department for both of us.
IntoTheMeatGrinder 7 months ago
@IntoTheMeatGrinder lmao "the stupid department"? hahaha what a dolt
SclafaniBagni 6 months ago
@SclafaniBagni take it you are a member as well
IntoTheMeatGrinder 6 months ago
AhHa......
sgrroiii 9 months ago
They are like fucking children!
calum66 9 months ago
Usually Buckley verbally intimidates or physically threatens those who stand up to him. Evidently, he knows better than to mess with Norman.
OKandNOWwhat 9 months ago 3
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Yes Norman the great wife stabber
paulpaulallen 9 months ago
@paulpaulallen
hehehe
OKandNOWwhat 9 months ago
the irishsman awkward letfy, vs the narcissist who's echo's from his own voice off the walls keeps him sexually aroused.. one writes like and angel one speaks like an angel
andyfortruth 9 months ago 11
@andyfortruth hah so true
loggats 8 months ago
@andyfortruth Yes!
EgoSumIndigentia 8 months ago
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@andyfortruth "The irishsman awkward letfy" What? Who? Buckley ? Lefty? You just blew my mind.
feck2112 5 months ago
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MetrazolElectricity 4 months ago
dude were you tripping when you wrote this comment?!
MetrazolElectricity 4 months ago
@andyfortruth You have zero credibility if you think Mailer was an exceptional writer. Good god what a disgrace.
MrGrevy 4 months ago
Buckley, for all his gifts as a debater and columnist, was a terrible novelist, offering us a series of abysmally juvenile spy novels, efforts that could have been authored by a precocious teenager. As for the reference to narcissism [ haupper] , Buckley fairly glowed, almost radio-actively, with a particular strain of high minded self importance. Half earned, half pathological.
molloyxx1 10 months ago
I do not like Buckley's politics. I DO respect the man.
tmb916a 10 months ago 2
i think russell brand has more mastery of the English language that the affected buckley
mks8 10 months ago
@mks8 Care to explain your reasoning behind this comment?
jeffhiseley 10 months ago
Buckley is such a lizard. Slimy.
Silenus6 10 months ago
@hexcane Excuse me? Where did you come from?
EgoSumIndigentia 10 months ago
nice accent, Norman.
gnab123 11 months ago
@gnab123 he does an irish accent to mock buckley's self aggrandizing hero accent, i think. that's my impression
andyfortruth 9 months ago 2
I watch these videos simply to analyze and appreciate Mr. Buckley's mastery of the English langauge.
EgoSumIndigentia 11 months ago 20
@EgoSumIndigentia Me too. I think Bill's politics were bogus and nutty right-wing. english is of course classy
RedChilliGod 2 months ago
Out-writes everybody since Hemingway? That's not much of an accomplishment. Hemingway was a real shit writer.
RightWingCon81 11 months ago
Norman Mailer is offensively self-important. I hope that the last 40 years has mitigated his chatterbox narcissism.
andrjsh 11 months ago 2
"His technique is one of unalloyed narcissism mitigated by a recognition of, not to say a devotion to, his own shortcomings." Mmm, savor that.
haupper 11 months ago 5
Bill Buckley is so camp!
caballistical 1 year ago
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kp9952 1 year ago
One can find "enjoyment" is anything....
greglammers 1 year ago
Mailer was a self-important shitheel.
Resenbrink 1 year ago 2
WFB was such a class act.
l33tpwnzord 1 year ago 2
Unalloyed narcissism... both!
janelasdedeus 1 year ago
Buckley was, and, as long as his videos immortalize him, is a full on fascist.
greglammers 1 year ago
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l33tpwnzord 1 year ago
@greglammers
That's not even a complete sentence.
l33tpwnzord 1 year ago
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waltherppk1000 1 year ago
@waltherppk1000
So solly,
You got it all backwards. I am an Honorably discharged 100% disabled American armed forces member - Navy.
Buckley was, and (since he's been immortalized in various media) is, a full-blown Fascist pig... maybe you are one as well, sunshine. Otherwise, why on earth would you defend this poor excuse of a man?
Good luck "waltherppk1000." Bet you have a small dick too.
greglammers 1 year ago
@greglammers -Sorry about your situation. Too bad you have a closed mind.
waltherppk1000 1 year ago
@waltherppk1000
Hey, that's okay, manno. Just differences in opinion. I know it can be frustrating sometimes. I don't really think of myself as closed minded. But, what do you think when so many are not in agreement with how you feel? That has to at least make you question yourself sometimes, no?
Best,
Greg
greglammers 1 year ago
@greglammers That's somewhat true, but I don't see how that makes this show less enjoyable.
jhop9898 1 year ago
@greglammers Ah yes, but what a superior one compared to the turkeys that now inhabit US politic
arthurdonachy 1 year ago
@arthurdonachy its like watching the wwf these days
jcostello117 1 year ago
Gotta love Buckley. His eyes smile before his mouth does, rather accusingly, I might add.
gcgwgc 1 year ago
@gcgwgc Buckley was dangerous, his family had ties to Chilean fascists, including the only succesful car bombing in Washington D.C., and Buckley spread dis-information about that case.
MEpianist 1 year ago
good lord mailer is such a blowhard
ColdCypher 1 year ago
Buckley is such a pompous ass.
pvisserandorra 1 year ago
@pvisserandorra He was patently neither pompous nor an ass.
viriatoist 1 year ago
@viriatoist You are wrong. He has always been pompous. OK, I concede - only usually an ass.
pvisserandorra 1 year ago
philipnute com
zsezse215 1 year ago
i like buckley better than vidal but hey
Conail23 1 year ago 2
Mailer dodges the question about whether an artist should be above the law, but that is surely what he thought--when he helped Jack Abbott out of prison early, based on the "genius" of his book, In the Belly of the Beast, rather than on his ability to live in the outside word. And shortly afterward, Abbott knifed and killed a waiter, who was a playwright. Although horrified, Mailer was unable, at last, to exculpate himself completely, when it was about someone's life, and not his ego...
wingtips123 1 year ago 3
@wingtips123 - You have no idea what another person thinks swami.
tom6612 1 year ago
Well, I'm a Midwesterner, so you'd know more about Eastern accents than I would.
Buckley grew up in New York and Connecticut, among other places (in Europe), and those could be considered mid-Atlantic states, I suppose.
dnggitg 1 year ago
Many commenters here have been wondering about Buckley's accent. An old book called The Official Preppy Handbook calls it the "New England nasal nip." Someone who talks this way will often pause and "ahhh" in an attempt to sound offhand, to seem to be groping for words. But the pause will be followed by an astonishing flow of polysyllabic Latinate words like "animadversion," all gracefully deployed in a sentence so syntactically complicated that most contemporary Americans would get lost in it.
dnggitg 1 year ago 2
@dnggitg Just trying to clarify, but isn't it a mid-atlantic accent? The internet says it is. I am from New England and do hear this accent in various locations so that's why I'm confused. New England commonly gets stereotyped with the Boston accent but you'd be surprised to frequently hear this accent.
spiderwebs7215 1 year ago
these guys were both pompous ass holes
res57 1 year ago
"Buckley was a supporter of Joe McCarthy"...no kidding. If he is to be sent to the third circle of Hell for that association--what are you going to do with the Kennedys? RFK was counsel on McCarthy's committee, one of the Kennedy sisters dated McCarthy, JFK at Harvard yelled at a dinner, when McCarthy was linked with Alger Hiss as an undesirable ""How dare you couple the name of a great American patriot with that of a traitor!" Old Joe K helped finance McCarthy.And Joe Jr. is McCarthy's godson.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Buckley was supporting McCarthy in this century not just the middle of the last. One can be sure the Kennedys would have revised their opinion as they matured. Buckley on the other hand never did mature. He maintained the same old ideas as his father bequeathed him. His sclerotic ideas remained with him right to the grave.
You don't have to explain yourself to me. I don't mind if you steal hours away from your employer endulging your obsession with yours truly. lol
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 The Kennedys, being the power maniacs that they are, thought they saw their main chance with McCarthy and his populism. They shifted Left once they realized that the McCarthy meal ticket had run it's course. They would have been very happy as commie hunters if the power elites had shifted in that direction.
The ruling class can afford my attempts to educate you.
halfmace 1 year ago
@joblow696 HOW can "One be sure the Kennedys would have revised their opinion as they matured?" Please offer some evidence to support your assertion.
stevevandien 1 year ago
Ravi has the innate sensibility that would understand WL. You could only rattle your cage and scream for the head of The Enemy.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Only a fool would think Shankar would have any sympathy with a fascist bully-boy like Lewis. Spoiled little darlings like you who think it such fun to flirt with fascism should do some traveling. There are many places in the world suffering under the kind of governments so appealing to pampered fops like Lewis, safely away from it all ,protected from the kind of jack-booted rubbish he was so enamored with by the good fortune of having been born and raised in a democracy. Wake up.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 "the impression has been growing upon me that everyone is dead.
It happens when I speak to people. In the middle of a sentence it will come over me: yes, beyond a doubt this is death. There is little to do but groan and make an excuse and slip away as quickly as one can. At such times it seems that the conversation is spoken by automatons who have no choice in what they say.and I think to myself: this is death. "
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Yes, this is the kind of disassociative state an emotionally acarpous sensibility is prone to. The best remedy for this type is sucide. Alas they never have the guts for it so they yowl for someone else's blood. After all they're only "automotons" not deserving of life like self-anointed geniuses. Ridiculous nonsense.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 A rumble has commenced in my descending bowel, heralding a tremendous defecation.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace You're a freudian's dream.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 as expected, your superficial Google encounter with Lewis has left your brain addled. Not unusual. The brain that has been spoon fed inanities often has such a reaction. Return to your book burning, it will make you feel better.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace You're going to wind up a drooling wreck like your depressing hero if you don't watch it. Try and get out and get a little fresh air. Whatever it is you're secretly itching for would be alot better than sitting around dreaming dreams of a fascist paradise with the long dead and forever buried Lewis. Lets face it , he's been swept out the historic back door along with all the other dust.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 Your "cliche footprint" has become so massive, it is time to purchase "cliche credits".
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Oh the inanity!
joblow696 1 year ago
@halfmace Ravi S owns several Vorticist paintings that were produced out of Lewis' Rebel Art Centre. Good call.
wraithby 1 year ago
@wraithby A leftist philistine, plaguing this comment board, has difficulty understanding that Art is independent of ideology.
This sans culotte would like any dissident, who fails to adopt Leftist twaddle, should be subjected to psychological control a la Brezhnev's socialist paradise of the 1970s.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace I know the breed. The secular equivalent to the biblical "plague of locusts".
wraithby 1 year ago
@wraithby You did well to withdraw. You brought a penknife to do battle with a broadsword.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 Is this the locust? Actually I brought bug repellent.
wraithby 1 year ago
@halfmace If an author pens a book extolling the virtues of Adolph Hitler he has wholly embraced an ideological position. Consequently he is fair game for analysis on an ideological basis. Where would anyone get the idiotic idea that art is independent of the time in which it is created? It is also truly a reflection of incurable political philistinism to liken every left-leaning argument to be the equivalent of the Stalinist Soviet Union. You declare yourself a fool when you do so. Be civil.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 no such word as "philistinish". Unlike you I don't judge works of art based on the creator's political ideology. Some of the greatest works of art and literature, of the 20th century, came from the hands of political leftists. I may loath their politics, but I would not use such an infantile criteria to judge their art.
Ezra Pound proved to be a political nincompoop, as a Fascist sympathizer, however both Left and Right artists awarded him the Bollingen prize.
halfmace 1 year ago
@joblow696 Be civil?l....ha. I've perused your "civility" from the start of this exchange. Your "civility" almost mirrors the crazed pastor who will be burning Korans on 9/11.
I do not temper my responses to unceasing invective.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace You hero Buckley would approve of the pastor's actions. The truth of the matter is that all the major attacks on freedon of speech and expression in this country for the last century have come from your side of the ideological spectrum. Indeed your friend Buckley was a supporter of Joe McCarthy until the day he died. Read history and weep.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 From my very first post you can see that I am hardly a Buckley hero worshiper. But close reading is required and you are more concerned with scoring points against chimeras.
halfmace 1 year ago
@joblow696 President Wilson's efficient, executive smashing of free speech, leaves McCarthy's scattershot, efforts from an ineffective legislative position in the dust. Facts are inconvenient. Wilson, a man of the Left, is triumphant in the anti- free speech category.
The Left did quite a job building up Ol Joe to the modern equivalent of the bogeyman. That has paid dividends for 50 plus years. I can admire that as an exercise in power politics.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Wilson can hardly be called "a man of the Left." He was only liberal, and moderately so, in his foreign policy initiative vis a vis the League of Nations. In all else he was for his times center right. In his policies towards labor for instance he was a typical reactionary of the ruling class. After all ,the Palmer raids and other draconian actions were against the Left. Throughout the last century the impetus towards censorship has come almost exclusively from the right.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 The Left is notoriously sectarian. Wilson needed to eliminate those who weren't on all fours with his brand of "progress". Also his massive crackdown of any opponents to WWI and the growth of his war state. Right is incredibly broad category in your world view. But the Left has to be delineated very carefully. I don't buy it.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Look at the Supreme Court rulings under Renquist for instance. There are many, many other examples. If you're not wearing your ideological blinders.
joblow696 1 year ago
@halfmace Surely when you perused this exchange you saw that it was you who started the dialogue by calling me asswipe. That was very high-minded and sophisticated. The entire exchange has had nothing to do with ideas and everything to do with holding a fun-house mirror up to your anger-contorted mug. You don't like what you see. When I see the hours you spend doing this nonsense I have to question your mindset. There is certainly a problem. Are you homebound due to an illness? Sorry if so.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 again with the hours....I'm amazed that you can't collect a few thoughts and type several paragraphs in less than hours. Unless your incapacity has short circuited your sense of time. This sort of things is reckoned in minutes,
Au contraire, you began with assumptions of my yahoo-ism based on your prejudices about geographic origin eg. your obsession with Kansas. I have no time for that sort of passive aggressive, -put someone in their place nonsense, based on pseudo sophistication.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Lol Must I remind you again that you are online all day. Other people have lives. You are also reading the posts out of context. I remarked on Buckley's closetedness. You then responded with the highbrow asswipe crack. That is something other than passive aggressive, that is just crude. Your lack of self-insight is pathological. Your venomous nature prevents your seeing such things clearly. You are obviously a lonely man. P.S. You are aping Buckley exquisitely.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 "Must I remind you again that you are online all day."
I'm a systems analyst if I weren't- I wouldn't get a paycheck. Yours is one of many viruses that I have to deal with. Only difference is yours is pro bono. But I think I'm helping. I see some minute growth from you.
halfmace 1 year ago
@joblow696 "I have to question your mindset. There is certainly a problem."
You've psychoanalyzed anyone who disagrees with you. You derive great satisfaction by projecting various syndromes as if you were decorating a Christmas tree. Do you find yourself often unable to relate to concrete persons and situations, without psychobabble?
Your sort of grandiosity is much more suspect that my inability to suffer fools. I shall adopt this sentence as my own. Please reflect on it and seek some help.
halfmace 1 year ago
@joblow696 "political philistinism" ? Only an ideologue could concoct such a phrase. Philistinism is descriptive of deconstructions of art and culture not political ideology.
"Every left leaning argument" is not Stalinist. Anti-Stalinist liberals, non socialists, and Trotskyites were admirable enemies of Stalinism. However, those who indiscriminately toss around loaded ideological terms like "reactionary" to describe anyone to the right of Karl Marx, cannot be counted among that company.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace should be: non Stalinist socialists
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Read John Harrison's great work of historical analysis The Reactionaries for a proper definition of the word. You have much to learn.
joblow696 1 year ago
Hugh Kenner, the great literary critic, demolished that exercise in agitprop way back when. But holding on to illusions is comforting.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Read it yourself. Never mind what Kenner wrote about it.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 I don't read propagandist tripe, as a rule, unless it's cleverly done.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace How would you know unless you read it? Get out of your box.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 Harrison's book is sub par. Kenner did such an exquisite job of showing that Harrison was not even familiar with the works. It's full of misquotes and misrepresentations. It's a work of political ideology.
I don't bother with screeds when I read something from a credible scholar who bases his criticism on the fact that the author is not dealing with the subject matter honestly. There is a plethora of excellent critical scholarship concerning the modernist writers,not Harrison.
halfmace 1 year ago
@wraithby We were not discussing Lewis' paintings. We were discussing his ideological position regarding the Nazis during the thirties. He was pro. Surely even a philistinish type like yourself would welcome a painting by the communist Picasso. Or maybe not.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 a profoundly ignorant post. By your (un) reasoning we must therefore reject the plays of Shaw (a noted leftist) and the works of H.G. Wells (another leftist) because they expressed ardent (early) support of Hitler and other fascists. That is the definition of philistinism. Read Lewis's books, "Hitler" (1931) which naively lauded Hitler,like many on the Left and Right at that time, and "The Hitler Cult" (1939), which firmly rejected Nazism-then you may make an intelligent point.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace There you go sputtering and fulminating again. Dear God , you do take yourself to be some kind of a cyber-intellectual. My exscuse for this nonsense is that I'm homebound after a recent surgery. Soon I'll be back to work doing good and doing well. You, meanwhile, I fear will be trapped on here forever, forever channeling your pompous idols. Get out there and do something REAL! i mean this with a good heart. I really do. Life's too short to waste on these delusions of grandeur.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 @joblow696 "fulminating...sputtering...pompous idols...cyber intellectual....delusions of grandeur."
Doing good indeed! I wonder what your negative output is when you are up and about at full speed. Sorry to hear that it takes you a full work day to pump out a few paragraphs. My gems take several minutes.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Lol That's because you're online all day! Even in beantown there must be better things to do. Get out there. Have sex with someone other than yourself. Breathe the honeyed air before this summer slips away forever. Do something good for someone. Drink a beer, watch a ballgame, eat some beans. Give your fingers a rest and the rest of us a break.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 these wonderful things aren't available to us reactionary rubes from Kansas and/or suburbs....sigh...but we plug away annoying the complacent...
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace lol You're copying me now!
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 Not discussing, you were bloviating. You rejected worth of WL, both literary and painter, due to your comic book understanding of his position vis a vis fascism.
A scene in Annie Hall fits you: an empty suit is bloviating about Marshall McLuhan, while in a movie queue. Woody Allen steps out of line and produces MM and he denounces the nonsense of the empty suit. Priceless.
Marshall McLuhan, also a dedicated admirer of W. Lewis. He must also be worthless in your eyes.
wraithby 1 year ago
@wraithby Why don't you make some art of your own instead of this childish hero-worshipping in cyberspace. You have no more understanding of what it means to make art than Lewis knew what it meant to have compassion for his fellow man. You're a poor geek who has nothing better to do than sit around playing the fool for absolutely noone---other than halfmace. lol You are definately a suburban boy. I would represent you as an invisible man. Annie Hall! That's rich!
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 coming from someone who believes that art must be subservient to politics, your personal vilification is understandable. You must destroy anyone who stands in the way of your political daydreaming.
I have no artistic abilities and am self aware enough to understand that. You, on the other hand, view your turds as works of art as they travel out of the bowl.Typical self indulgent bourgeois. No wonder you despise Lewis.
wraithby 1 year ago
"beantown" is hardly a bastion of sophistication. That's why you must resort to such crude language. If you were from more sophisticased climes you would understand what I'm saying about Buckley's closetedness. Try to elevate your mind. Don't wallow so.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 such high-mindedness coming from someone frantically searching for supposed homosexuals under every rock. Have you been sent to bore me? You've succeeded.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Why are you so angry? Was it a brutish daddy? Perhaps if you learned to elevate your small mind out of the sewer of vulgarity and blind rage in which it is so deeply mired. Try to acculturate yourself to some of the higher and finer qualities of life. Things like art and literature and sensitivity to what is beautiful. Stop wallowing in your blind rage and knuckle-dragging coarseness. Make a stab at civility.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696yes, you have been sent to bore me.
You spout every half-educated phrase known to pop culture. Your posturing as a "sophisticate" is a refuge of the fraud. Try breaking away from mass consensus opinions and renounce the cliche and the pose. Not everyone you agree with is a secret homosexual.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace make that "disagree with". Cheers.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace You are fairly sputtering with rage. I seem to have gotten under your very thin skin. Why do you have such a problem with homosexuality? Do you really believe that homosexuality is something one can be accused of in this day and age? Only homophobic reactionary types such as you think this way. That is why I question both your level of sophistication and your true motivations. Both are intimately related. Speak to the point if you're to speak at all. Blind rage gains us nothing.
joblow696 1 year ago
Nice try. You alleged WFB was a homosexual. Why so obsessed with his sexuality? Oh yes, someone who doesn't adopt your worldview has to be conflicted. Psychological reductionism at it's most banal.
Then you shifted to equally idiotic excursions into Kansas, "brutish dads" and now "homophobia" . Is the ad hominem the only arrow in your quiver?
All of this presented in your unctuous prose. Ugh, the poseur always makes me angry. Righteous anger.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace lol Lunatic anger I'd say. Don't you think it rather strange that you are working yourself up to such a froth over someone you don't even know? If you scroll back you will see that it is you who resorts to the ad hominen. Indeed in the most crude and vulgar manner. Instead of denouncing psychology you should make good use of some psychological counseling. Look up "projection ."
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 I'm smoking a Jamaican cigar and throwing down a brandy contemplating your lies, rather calmly.
You began by boring me, now I am quite fascinated. As a type you intrigue me. If you could see my mannerisms and hand gestures, you might take that as meaning I'm secretly homosexual, but I mean this in the non physical sense. I'm intrigued by your ability to revise your own actions.
Buckley is a secret homosexual. I'm a reactionary rube from Kansas. Continue to entertain me! Amazing.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace This is rich! You are truly a character. You would of course be a Wyndham Lewis fan. Did you read his lovely book circa 1931 about his hero Hitler? Seems Adolph was a great freedom fighter against encroaching commies.
You should really upgrade to Cubans. And take it easy with the brandy. It kills brain cells. You must conserve that limited resource.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 very quick with the lightweight Wikipedia search of WL. Your provincial attitudes wouldn't allow you to confront an artist like Lewis.
Your sensitive brain could not take the rush of genius. Read further and see that he denounced Hitler later on. Leftists like H.G. Wells also were admirers of Hitler (early on), as were lightweights like Joe Kennedy. But this is too deep for you to take in. You must have your neat columns of goodies and baddies.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace lol I suspected you were one of these wickepedia types. Actually I'm well- versed in Lewis and his turgid works and "genius." He did indeed later renounce his earlier hero worship of the fuhrer. But it was at the very end of the thirties when it was way too late, long after small-minded sensation-seekers like him had done there damage. Damage which amounted to laying the intellectual groundwork for genocide. "Goodies and baddies" indeed.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 nonsense on stilts. You know as much about Lewis as I do about playing a sitar.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace You must be Ravi Shankar.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 I'll wait for the Castros to kick it before lighting up the Cubans. Big fiesta at your place when Raul steps in and renews the Revolution ?
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace I sit here breathing deep the pellucid, lavender-scented ,air of my smoke-free environmen while sipping a delightful admixture of apple,carrot and kale juices, completely open and secure with my metrosexuality, certain of my moral superiority over my homophobic and latent political enemies, pitying them their procrustean inhibitions which distort not only their sexuality but also their political ideals, looking down on them from the lofty aerie of my intellectual superiority. I sigh...
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 that at least helped me pass something that was troubling my insides for sometime. Obliged.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace It is laughable. You epitomize the very small-minded mass-consensus thinking you accuse me of. You must take my earlier advice and struggle to get your head out of that mire of rage where someone has shoved it.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 If I were a gifted enough satirist, you would headline my remake of the "Apes of God". You playing the part of the derivative buffoon, of course.
halfmace 1 year ago
Buckley was only more boring when in his coffin.
joblow696 1 year ago
Two rat bags together. These two nitwits deserve each other.
felixq78 1 year ago
Mailer memorialized Gilmore. A petty killer lives on through Mailer's work.
halfmace 1 year ago
Buckley is also pathetic in this interview. He is endlessly fluffing and petting Mailer.
He was a very insecure guy and needed acceptance of the (new) degraded New York literary society. A social butterfly at work. Sad.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace The key to Buckley is that he was a closeted individual trying desperately to hide from himself. Quite pathetic. His ridiculous affectations and mannerisms only accentuated this internal conflict.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 tired Leftist tactic of attributing homosexuality to political enemies.
Buckley was socially insecure and lusted after the approval of elites. That doesn't make him an invert.
His major contribution was founding NR in the 1950s and giving a voice to deeper conservative thinkers than himself.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace NR was a contribution? Certainly not to the country. As to the charge of using a "tired Leftist tactic of attibuting homosexuality to political enemies" are you thinking of such political enemies as Joe McCarthy, Roy Cohn, or perhaps that Republican senator with the "wide stance." The conservative movement in America is rife with this kind of thing. It virtually explains the whole rotten enterprise. Where are you from----Kansas?
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 incoherent as usual. Cohn et al were patriotic sods. I'll let you get back to your drooling.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace Lol Where are you from__Kansas? You need to go visit a big city and wash off some of that yokel naievete.
joblow696 1 year ago
@joblow696 hey asswipe, I'm from your beloved Leftist backwater known as beantown...lived here all my life. Most Globe readers are almost as stupid as you, so I get where you are coming from.
halfmace 1 year ago
Mailer is a bore, also unreadable.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace YOU are a bore. Mailer's novels are special.
pinkjammies666 1 year ago
@pinkjammies666 correction, Mailer is readable, to an extent. If you are looking for tips about how to smack women around, he's your guy.
Likewise, if you are a murderer on death row and need to sucker an "intellectual" into going to bat for you and generating publicity, Norman is also your guy. He wrote the handbook on the subject.
halfmace 1 year ago
@halfmace How exactly did Gilmore "sucker" Mailer into "going to bat for him?" Gilmore confessed to the crimes he committed and insisted on being executed because he felt he deserved to be punished for his actions. He wasn't looking for anyone to defend him or feel sorry for him, nor was Mailer's portrayal of him the least bit sympathetic. Did you even read The Executioner's Song? And how exactly would Gilmore benefit from publicity generated by a book published after his death?
borstalboy1981 1 year ago
@halfmace Amen.
stevevandien 1 year ago
I love how Buckley's eyes pop when he shoots his questions. It must be kinda un-nerving to guests that can't handle such a strong presence.
lanser87 1 year ago
Mailer looks kinda like Ed Asner
txbnkr 1 year ago
@txbnkr assholes all look alike...spidery.
gardenvarietypenis 1 year ago
@txbnkr yeah, and they are both dumb as f*** too
djwolf12 1 year ago
Indeed, the dandy, Buckley, is a far far cry from Sean Calamity.
Tsnore 1 year ago 3
the peple who pay and decide will not have TELIVISION be intelligent. If you read NewYOrk review of books you are already part of a world.You will disagree and write and argue but you will never take to the streets or risk your time-share. Dark Ages indeed for our nation!
lovesGenet 1 year ago
Mailer's father was South African.
zooooooperdooooooper 1 year ago
The 21st century has entered the dark ages of the intellect.
RoadTweeker 1 year ago 8
There are no intellectuals on television now. At least none on the cable news programs. Charlie Rose is probably the closest as far as the quality of the guests and the length of discussion.
If you have more Buckley/Firing Line footage please post it!
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