I think its funny how everyones so proud that Evangeline didn`t settle, but was so happy when Natalie did. But i guess Natalie was willing to wait years for him to change and what it`s 2011 and he still has`nt in truth Natalie got what she wanted now she wants him to change. She might as well shut up and deal she got exactly what she wanted no point in him changing now. Im glad this show is done these last couple of years after Van has been plain sad love Tess/Jess though.
@94take Well Natalie didn't mind waiting. Evangeline felt she deserved more than that. And really she did. Why should she be content with long looks and kisses and not hear a man tell her that he loves and constantly rush off to save another woman? Don't get me wrong, I like Natalie although her character has really taken a plunge, but I respected Evangeline and if he ended up with either of them, I wasn't mad. But Natalie did chase John but he let her catch him. Van was like no way! LOL
jmwhite1001 I have disagree with you. I don't think Van was too dramatic at all. I think her emotions and what she is feeling is right on point. think about it, the man that she is in love with, chose another woman over her in a life and death situation. That has to be a bitter pill to swallow especially when you have given all of yourself to him, expressed your feelings in more ways than one only to find out that you were being played. Vange didn't play the game, she was in it for keeps.
All I know is that Natalie is still missing, but John is in the park KISSING Evangeline Williamson! He's practically begging for another chance, instead of investigating. Lol! Van was a little too dramatic here for me. Stupid writers.
@jmwhite1001 Up until Natalie was rescued, they had us believing that he still wanted Vange. And even when he got with Natalie, there times when he would be ALL up on Vange with longing eyes. But definitely after the prison riots when she was TOdd's lawyer during the murder trial, he really was trying to get her back. Under the guised of friendship though. It hurts to watch them but I am glad Vange didn't play that friends game with John that Natalie did. He sure wanted too.
@AJSP35801 I keep thinking of the scene after they tell Todd that Marget died, and Van has John drive her to the gym to see Cris. The look on his face when he went back to bring her jacket to here and he saw her with Cris. That was a man full of regrets.
If it was all John ever wanted he should have fought harder to keep it he had no problem letting Nat knw I believe he was starting to love her more then Catlin and that scared him. Van was his heart and soul and he loved her. Nat and him never discussed his relationship with Van was she scared to find out what he really felt about her!
@94take I think it was more like the writers/producers not wanting them to discuss his and Vans relationship. They saw how hot it was and it made it more difficult to present the fraud relationship known as Jolie.
you know what? i wouldn't even b mad if they made up a stupid storyline to bring Evangeline back, jus as long as they bring her bac and let her b with John!
@linnett123 This is evident with all those following the clips online. Especially those like me who do not watch this show and missed REG when she was on the show. I would've definitely followed the Evangeline S/L today if that was possible. She just connected with her fellow actors/characters (John, Todd, Cris & her friendship with Nora).
ABC sucks! CBS would have started rebuilding either after this episode or after he showed up at Eva's house drunk. It would have been clear that they would be finding their way back to each other. But no, ABC is the reigning network of pissing fans off.
I agree L1558...what about someone who just speak the words all the time and doesn't back it up with actions. For a intelligent lawyer, she missed the boat here. This man loves her THROUGH HIS ACTIONS but she wants him to say it???? I have yet to find a clip of Crave or Tangie where "I love you" is spoken to her...didn't Cristian cheat on her? She never entered a relationship with Todd...at least John loved her and didnt cheat.
@dlastqueen I understand where your coming from but sometimes you just need to hear the words being said. She loved John and wanted to hear him say I love you to her. That was something special to her.
@sandnin1 I agree with what you said. I loved both Jovan and Jolie. If he was gonna be with anyone it should be Vange or Nat but he should have told Vange that he loved her. All the blame shouldn't be on Nat, John was responsible for how Vange felt and he disregarded her feelings. No man who is complete toward a woman and runs to another. He loved both of them and he had to make a choice and he refused to make the choice so Vange made it for him. A strong woman. I am glad she didn't settle.
@dlastqueen You know, after reading this post, I have to say that you have presented an interesting argument. There is the notion that "actions speak louder than words" and in this case John showed, through his actions, that he loved Vange. I think Vange was afraid of the "what if." She was strong, but strong women can have doubts too. She wanted to leave before left...to choose to save herself. If Chris loved her so much, why did he run to the first warm body he could find?
@dlastqueen Cris never cheated on Van, but she did cheat on him. She played that John/Nat game with Cris with Todd as Gnat. We're just friends, she would say, and she kissed Todd. That's not friendship, and I much as I loved the character of Van, she cheated on RJ and Cris, and that made her very wrong.
Actions do speak louder than words, and John's actions proved it was all about Gnat. He left Van to burn at the stake, to burn. No more words were needed. He said it all.
What she doesn't blame him for...is feeling how he does. Which is conflicted because of Natalie. The reason this is all crap is because ME's portrayal of John's feelings for Evangeline vs Natalie don't back up what the damn writers put on screen. Evangeline was right to let John go. I think it made her character respectable. But they never should've been broken up in the first place.
Indeed. I suppose they wanted John conflicted, hence writing the triangle. He leaned toward our girl...but when in pinch he'd make the wrong choice--the writers wanted Natalie to reap the rewards of the bigger payoffs...
In the end...we get our 'Miss Independent' from Vangie!
Dammit why couldn't she just let it go and get back with him. Just cause he couldnt say it didn't mean he didn't want her. But I understand if she felt she needed to hear it even just once. it sucks not being sure if someone really wants you or if you are just there to past time away with them til they find who they really want :-S
I would've agreed with you before, but at this point in the story, that's not even the issue. In a life or death situation, he didn't choose her. That says a lot.
I think its funny how everyones so proud that Evangeline didn`t settle, but was so happy when Natalie did. But i guess Natalie was willing to wait years for him to change and what it`s 2011 and he still has`nt in truth Natalie got what she wanted now she wants him to change. She might as well shut up and deal she got exactly what she wanted no point in him changing now. Im glad this show is done these last couple of years after Van has been plain sad love Tess/Jess though.
94take 2 months ago 2
@94take Well Natalie didn't mind waiting. Evangeline felt she deserved more than that. And really she did. Why should she be content with long looks and kisses and not hear a man tell her that he loves and constantly rush off to save another woman? Don't get me wrong, I like Natalie although her character has really taken a plunge, but I respected Evangeline and if he ended up with either of them, I wasn't mad. But Natalie did chase John but he let her catch him. Van was like no way! LOL
demelicious 2 months ago
jmwhite1001 I have disagree with you. I don't think Van was too dramatic at all. I think her emotions and what she is feeling is right on point. think about it, the man that she is in love with, chose another woman over her in a life and death situation. That has to be a bitter pill to swallow especially when you have given all of yourself to him, expressed your feelings in more ways than one only to find out that you were being played. Vange didn't play the game, she was in it for keeps.
2riseintruth 2 months ago
All I know is that Natalie is still missing, but John is in the park KISSING Evangeline Williamson! He's practically begging for another chance, instead of investigating. Lol! Van was a little too dramatic here for me. Stupid writers.
jmwhite1001 6 months ago
@jmwhite1001 Up until Natalie was rescued, they had us believing that he still wanted Vange. And even when he got with Natalie, there times when he would be ALL up on Vange with longing eyes. But definitely after the prison riots when she was TOdd's lawyer during the murder trial, he really was trying to get her back. Under the guised of friendship though. It hurts to watch them but I am glad Vange didn't play that friends game with John that Natalie did. He sure wanted too.
AJSP35801 5 months ago
@AJSP35801 I keep thinking of the scene after they tell Todd that Marget died, and Van has John drive her to the gym to see Cris. The look on his face when he went back to bring her jacket to here and he saw her with Cris. That was a man full of regrets.
maipe6917 2 months ago 2
If it was all John ever wanted he should have fought harder to keep it he had no problem letting Nat knw I believe he was starting to love her more then Catlin and that scared him. Van was his heart and soul and he loved her. Nat and him never discussed his relationship with Van was she scared to find out what he really felt about her!
94take 9 months ago
@94take I think it was more like the writers/producers not wanting them to discuss his and Vans relationship. They saw how hot it was and it made it more difficult to present the fraud relationship known as Jolie.
hisloveherlove 9 months ago
you know what? i wouldn't even b mad if they made up a stupid storyline to bring Evangeline back, jus as long as they bring her bac and let her b with John!
Jettaluv 1 year ago
@linnett123 This is evident with all those following the clips online. Especially those like me who do not watch this show and missed REG when she was on the show. I would've definitely followed the Evangeline S/L today if that was possible. She just connected with her fellow actors/characters (John, Todd, Cris & her friendship with Nora).
inbetween711 1 year ago
These two pull you into a scene and hold you, thats great acting and chemistry :-)
linnett123 1 year ago 3
ABC sucks! CBS would have started rebuilding either after this episode or after he showed up at Eva's house drunk. It would have been clear that they would be finding their way back to each other. But no, ABC is the reigning network of pissing fans off.
CranberriAppl 1 year ago 5
I agree L1558...what about someone who just speak the words all the time and doesn't back it up with actions. For a intelligent lawyer, she missed the boat here. This man loves her THROUGH HIS ACTIONS but she wants him to say it???? I have yet to find a clip of Crave or Tangie where "I love you" is spoken to her...didn't Cristian cheat on her? She never entered a relationship with Todd...at least John loved her and didnt cheat.
dlastqueen 2 years ago 4
@dlastqueen I understand where your coming from but sometimes you just need to hear the words being said. She loved John and wanted to hear him say I love you to her. That was something special to her.
sandnin1 8 months ago
@sandnin1 I agree with what you said. I loved both Jovan and Jolie. If he was gonna be with anyone it should be Vange or Nat but he should have told Vange that he loved her. All the blame shouldn't be on Nat, John was responsible for how Vange felt and he disregarded her feelings. No man who is complete toward a woman and runs to another. He loved both of them and he had to make a choice and he refused to make the choice so Vange made it for him. A strong woman. I am glad she didn't settle.
demelicious 3 months ago
@dlastqueen You know, after reading this post, I have to say that you have presented an interesting argument. There is the notion that "actions speak louder than words" and in this case John showed, through his actions, that he loved Vange. I think Vange was afraid of the "what if." She was strong, but strong women can have doubts too. She wanted to leave before left...to choose to save herself. If Chris loved her so much, why did he run to the first warm body he could find?
DoUTubeToo 2 months ago
@dlastqueen Cris never cheated on Van, but she did cheat on him. She played that John/Nat game with Cris with Todd as Gnat. We're just friends, she would say, and she kissed Todd. That's not friendship, and I much as I loved the character of Van, she cheated on RJ and Cris, and that made her very wrong.
Actions do speak louder than words, and John's actions proved it was all about Gnat. He left Van to burn at the stake, to burn. No more words were needed. He said it all.
HammersGirlTee 1 month ago
Ok if she doesn't blame him, then what is the problem? Why did OLTL write this so fickle.
SParkApCider 2 years ago 2
What she doesn't blame him for...is feeling how he does. Which is conflicted because of Natalie. The reason this is all crap is because ME's portrayal of John's feelings for Evangeline vs Natalie don't back up what the damn writers put on screen. Evangeline was right to let John go. I think it made her character respectable. But they never should've been broken up in the first place.
tsthunt 2 years ago 3
Indeed. I suppose they wanted John conflicted, hence writing the triangle. He leaned toward our girl...but when in pinch he'd make the wrong choice--the writers wanted Natalie to reap the rewards of the bigger payoffs...
In the end...we get our 'Miss Independent' from Vangie!
SParkApCider 2 years ago 2
Love ME/REG!!!!!They were mean to be together!!!!So real emotion and passion!!!!
ladyMs60 2 years ago 3
Aww.... I love Viki, she always shows up to help out and lend support. Hands down, Greatest character on Daytime.
kcococandi1 2 years ago
Dammit why couldn't she just let it go and get back with him. Just cause he couldnt say it didn't mean he didn't want her. But I understand if she felt she needed to hear it even just once. it sucks not being sure if someone really wants you or if you are just there to past time away with them til they find who they really want :-S
L1558 2 years ago 3
I would've agreed with you before, but at this point in the story, that's not even the issue. In a life or death situation, he didn't choose her. That says a lot.
tsthunt 2 years ago 7
definitely to the fans...he's just spewing words in the wrong place, flam but kiss was hott!
SParkApCider 2 years ago
No! No look alikes.
REG all the way.
SexyVickyPollard 2 years ago 2
*cries* i miss Evangeline! If they kill her off, I swear to God, I'm going to leave the show for good!
phoenix0360 4 years ago 10
And if they do, it better be REG or a good look alike or I'M LEAVING!
phoenix0360 4 years ago