@smallvillewanabe123 So if you had the option of advising your mother, that she should have aborted you, due to her financial or other issues she had at the time of being pregnant (let's suppose for the sake of the argument that she had those difficulties), would you advise her to do that?
Every aspect of life is above this man's pay-grade. He's never had to do anything for himself, because he's had others to carry him along. The Campaigner-in-Chief who now seems to be more interested in a shot on American Idol (or is it "idle"?) than doing what he was elected to do. I mean, everything that this man promised has gone to the wayside, and he's embraced all of the worst aspects of Bush 2's administration. If the media wasn't totally behind this clown, his polls would tank.
shoot I think that all blacks should vote for obama in 2012, obama stands behind planned parenthood and the negro project; which in turn means he stands behind the murder of thousands of black babies a year,,,yay
Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even it it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babies RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
Dear sincere liberals: Please be consistent regarding first principles. If you believe that a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body should be free of state interference, even as you concede that another viable and sentient life resides therein, you must continue this reasoning further. Shouldn't she then be free to decide what she does with the fruits of her labor? What function of government could supersede the protection of the innocent against the initiation of violence?
@BreChi92 Uhhhhh...has it ever occurred to you that abortions occur at ANY time during a woman's pregnancy? "Viability" doesn't matter to the "pro-choice" goons.
"Members of the Notre Dame faculty sent President Obama a letter declaring the HHS mandate is “a grave violation of religious freedom and cannot stand.”
Too bad they didn’t see this coming when they decided to invite and honor the most radical pro-abortion and pro-infanticide president in US history to speak at Commencement ceremonies in 2009."
Faulty thinking, MrGuppy. By your standards, anyone who is unconscious can be murdered. Anyone who is unthinking or unfeeling does not have life? Exactly WHEN does life begin? When it's WANTED? What if I no longer want my children? Do I kill them? Your worldview is a scary way to live. Who makes the rules in your world? The majority? What if the majority are corrupt?
@MrGuppy000 i believe you are very misinformed with your facts! it is still not decided whether a fetus can experience pain during its 1st trimester, however it is certain that late-term and partial birth abortions are painful to the fetus during the 2nd or close to 3rd trimester. imagine yourself getting you limbs ripped off your body & getting your brains sucked out & then getting your skull crushed try to tell me that that wont be physically painful & int the bible its says that only god can
Pro -choice people dont have characteristics, traits or intelligence!. You dont want anyone to have a choice, you want to sing the "I hate Christians" song so that the Satan worshiper/Freemason lodge wont boycott your souce of income. FACT
@MrGuppy000 you ignorant fool ! dont you know that a fetus is a being. it is a human fetus which makes it a human being, so it is human ! furthermore, i think your a little confused on what life really is, life can be anything from a tree to a fish to a human. however ofcourse, human life is more valuable so i think your REALLY confused with your facts ! you actually fall for the abortions business tricks that use dehuminizing names for a baby in the whom so that the public can actually think
@esaflygiirl123 im not ignorant. but i cant blame you. tell me this, if parents cant take care of a baby, they gain their freedom from the baby by abortion. but you tell me what the baby has to lose? it has no feelings, zero intelligence, and cant feel physical pain. people who use god in their arguements forget that in the bible it says that god intended the life and death of all creatures.
Thank you for you story MrGuppy000. I would say all in all things are going well for you .... despite a few challenges along the way. I understand your concern for the woman in this issue, very admirable. The only person who has no 'choice' in abortion is the baby. Everyone else, the mother, father, doctor, nurse, office staff, etc. ... they all are choosing for that baby ... and they are choosing death. Look at the photos of aborted babies .... horrific. Think of the baby .... please.
It seems like you should just admit that you don't care about the life of a baby. Part of a person's physical self is either always developing, getting worse, or changing in some way. People saying "a fetus isn't fully developed" don’t have a valid argument because neither is a teenager. And you will find very few people saying definitively when a fetus feel pain bc it isn't actually known for a fact. People as a whole are always advancing both physically & mentally so you can't know what that
@MrGuppy000 but it is a baby. We are all barely something ... barely a teenager .... barely an adult .... but we have one thing in common .... we are all 'very' human. From conception until death .... it is the one journey. We don't start 3 months after conception ... 6 months .... nor were we created at birth. When we were born we had already existed for around 270 days. Enjoy your day sir.
@Bullcoleman the fact of existing doesnt make abortion sound in any way bad. tell me this, what about women who were raped, not ready to have a kid, or not even able to afford the child? which is pretty much the only reasons, good reasons. reasons that overtake the fact of a fertilized egg with no nerves, feeling or emotions and
@snookles77 how is it punishing if it didnt do anything? it cant feel emotional or physical pain and has zero intelligence. so it would kind of be impossible to really "punish". what if the woman is raped? a regretful teenager? a broken condom? dont they have right over a feotus with zero characteristics, traits or intelligence?
"underdeveloped" baby experiences if nobody else truly does. I'm pretty sure the word "mother" isn't the correct term. The majority of women that had abortions when they were young regret it a lot when they get older. So it isn't just the life of the child that is affected. Pregnancy is preventable, if a person isn't mature enough to prevent it they shouldn't have the right to take a life because it'll be an inconvenience to them. Every young single mother I know love their kids unconditionally
& it changed them for the better. The girls I’ve met that had got abortions are still immature girls that worry only about themselves & contribute nothing to society. So what does that baby have to lose? The possibility of happiness, love, life, literally everything. I’m not trying to sway you & I very much doubt that I have. But I think it’s important for you to understand why people are against abortion. It comes down to the preservation, respect, and appreciation of an innocent human life.
The biggest disgrace in our country's history. Type the words "forgotten man painting" and click on the first video to see the picture that paints far more than a 1,000 words about this "Acting" Commander-in-Chief.
people who are against abortion are ignorant. its a blop of tissue that has YET to become a human, its not even alive technically. and in the bible that all you christians brainwash yourselves with even says that god plans the life and death of everything. therefore he intends feotus's to die from a christian perspective. abortion is also helping people like paraplegics with stemcell research. its not "murder". its not "evil". its not "against god". and its not a bad idea! for god sake!
@MrGuppy000 .... If ignorance is bliss ... you must be the happiest person on the planet. Congratulations for siding with Margaret Sanger on this issue. Were you ever just a "blop of tissue"? And if you were murdered then would it have effected anyone you know?
@Bullcoleman yup, i was a blob of tissue, you were too, everyone was in the first 2 weeks of pregnancy. noone can murder by aborting, because murder suggests an illigal side to it. it would have effected people, my mum and dad obviously, by saveing them the time and money they cant afford. ide rather be aborted then be financially physically and mentally starving my not-ready for a baby parents.
@MrGuppy000 I am not sure what you are saying here. I will rephrase the question. Do you think your parents regret your birth? I hope the answer is no. And my point is ... do you think that in your life ... to this point .... have you had a positive effect on people you know. It is a little like the movie "It's a Wonderful Life" ... and I hope your life has been good this far.
@Bullcoleman i will tell you about my life, well, the sad parts anyway. everything else is pretty good. when i was five our family labrador died infront of me. and this was horrible because at the time i had a bigger bond with her than both my parents. i loved my parents, as much as anyone loves their parents. but ruby was like my mum too, she followed me everywhere, woke me up in the mornings, etc. so that kind of ruined my home life until i got a new dog.- 2 years later.
@Bullcoleman - i went through 1st & 2nd grade fine. but at thirde grade (at a catholic school) i was doubting my religion. this caused me to be targeted by teachers too. i was also in a class with all bullies. i had no friends that year, i went to 2 years phycology. i had one friend for less than a month in grade 4. grade 5 was the start of a new life to me though. im still only in high school so i dont have alot to tell. but in my short life some of it sucks. but my life now is ok.
@Bullcoleman so no, my parents dont regret my birth. but my point is that people who dont let their babies form to much and would regret birth should be able to use abortion.
@MrGuppy000 You're lucky that you haven't really had any hardships. You may feel the way you do now, but I don't think you've experienced enough yet to fully appreciate life. You'll think a certain way now, then it'll change in university, & then again after that. The majority of well adjusted people in the world realize that abortion is wrong because it's killing an innocent life. Talk to women that had abortions when they were young, I doubt you'll find many that agree with your thinking.
@MrGuppy000 What rights are you talking about exactly? The rights of the child to have a chance to live a life? The rights to give a most likely immature & irresponsible girl the choice to kill a baby? What rights are being taken away from a girl that doesn't kill their child? It's argued that having a baby will effect the physical & mental well being of the woman. But abortion has very negative long term effects mentally & it kills an innocent living baby. So whose rights are being taken away?
@MrGuppy000 Technically he/she is most certainly alive, any scientist will tell you that. God plans for everyone to live; however God also gave us free will; some people use that to sin, for example to kill. Stem cells have yet to help anyone with anything. The only ones that have helped are those taken from adults or from umbilical cords of babies born alive. You should not make false claims, another sin, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
@MrGuppy000 And It's not "murder" it's killing,calling it "murder" would mean that it is killing that is illegal, which it is not, it is evil in the eyes of God,maybe not your eyes and saying it is not a bad idea, well that is your opinion. In God's opinion it is evil, because it is killing. That blob of tissue is a human, if you took the cells and tested them they would they would be human; therefore making it a human. Your rant is incorrect and needed to be refuted for God's sake!
@bpk0629 my rant isnt incorrect. i meant not a "human", its called human in your case because it has human DNA. ofcourse its "technically" alive, doesnt mean it has any feelings physically or emotionally. im an athiest so i dont care for god nonsense but ill disprove you here and now.- 'in the bible it says that god planned the creation and death of all things,' therefore its his will for abortion. how do you respond to that?
@MrGuppy000 First, please give me the Biblical quote you are referring to. I do know the Ten Commandments, one of which is You shall not kill. Exodus Chapter 20 verse13.
@bpk0629 that would be a good observation, if feotuses were aborted 5-6 weeks after fertilization. but still it wouldnt "really" matter, its a potential human by then, but still has no feelings whatsoever
@bpk0629 no reply because my computer stuffed up, that video had the feotus so much more formed than how old theyre supposed to be when aborted. i am against what was in that video just as much as you, but this is the 21st century, people KNOW that if they want to abort their babies they shouldnt let them grow to much!
@MrGuppy000 I'm not sure what your point is tho. With that thinking you admit that abortion is the killing of a growing baby. Scientists or whomever don't actually know when a baby starts to feel pain, there are plenty of guesses & estimates but that's all that they are. It's a long expensive process to give the death penalty to someone found guilty & usually they aren't conscious to feel it. Abortion is the killing of an Innocent baby that committed no wrong act, decided by a single person.
@Ramwhad if you read my comment closely, you would know my point is that i dont give a crap if the baby is only 1-5 weeks old, its just when idiot mothers leave the bread in the oven until its overcooked! (when the baby is in the womb for say six months and can potentially feel physical pain. theres just too much pain in this world as there is, you need to meet me halfway here.- what has a feotus with no emotions, or physical pain got to lose? a mother has rights over a to-be human!
Murder violates the basic human inclination to preserve innocent human life. Murder is the taking of innocent human life. An embryo is an identifiable individual, differing from a newborn infant only in being at an earlier stage on the long road to adult capacities and, if any life is innocent, that of an embryo is. If infanticide is murder, as it is, abortion is murder. Therefore, we fight to end abortion.
@lvbgsiz Was the person who can live on it's own never a BLASTOCYST? That person also was once a BLASTOCYST, therefore why that person got the CHANCE to develop his/her body within the womb of the woman and another living blastocyst has not that CHANCE, because it is not yet a person who can live on it's own? The only difference between them is that the blastocyst needs more time to develop, so as to be one day a person who can live on it's own, if even for a few minutes or hours. It it's life.
Okay honestly. If you are against abortion, go ahead and be against it, don't get one, fine. But if you're against it AND for all other types of birth control.. Condoms, Pill and all that. Then what's the freaking difference, Yes Abortion is a last resort thing but really condoms kill the sperm, and don't allow the chance of conception.. so how is that any better?
I am pro choice, It's a decision solely up to the woman, nothing to do with anyone else so stop preaching you inconsiderate assholes
@iamsmilingnow That is a completely ignorant thing to say. That's like saying "if you don't support the death penalty, then don't go break the law in go to jail." or "If you don't support murder, then don't kill people." or "If you don't support slavery, then don't own a slave." We are not pro-life so that we can only protect our own children, or other children, we are pro-life because we defend the rights to life of every single person, born or unborn.
@kelseyforte That is a good point, but I don't feel abortion is equivalent to murder or slavery. If you think fetuses are alive then that's your right, but there are others who feel otherwise. Abortion isn't the equivalent of the crimes you describe.
@iamsmilingnow Also, I could care less if you're pro-choice. However, don't use that ignorant argument because that shows how uneducated and naive you are. Think before you say something publicly.
Doesn't the brain not develop (fully) until the 3rd trimester. They can't feel pain or think until then. What people really forget is that this is a decision that is not taken lightly. The mother doesn't come out unscathed. She will feel guilt over the decision and may have problems with the operation itself.
This video should be shown on every television network. We need to remind the American people what a deceiver obama really is. How can we make this happen? This video is a must see. All Talk, No Action
He's simply too cowardly to answer the question. If one is pro-abortion, then the simple answer to the man's question is that a baby doesn't get human rights until after it is born (assuming of course, that one is pro-abortion through the entire pregnancy/gestation). If a person is one of the varieties of anti-abortion supporters, then the answer is somewhere between conception and birth. The caveat of course, is that human rights confers a right to life.
Someone please give me ONE argument why the life of a baby/fetus is more valuable than that of an animal.
Keep in mind that the argument of that it will be a human in the future has been proven wrong, out of the simple fact that we do NOT need more humans on this planet, and you can conceive just another life every goddamn month.
@joeratti An animal wont grow up to commit mass genocide, or infanticide, or to bomb abortion clinics are kills millions for religious reasons. That's a tired response, for every potential Einstein or Gandhi there's another Hitler or Bush out there.
@joeratti Did you read the "keep in mind"? What the person will be in the end is dependant to 90% on the learning in childhood and to 10% on genetics of the parents, which can be reproduced EVERY MONTH.
What I'm saying is that unborn/babies are totally worthless by themselves, except maybe if the parents had a hard time conceiving the child. They're just like some biological templates which only later develop into the valuable human being.
@ChuckNorris103 says: Someone please give me ONE argument why the life of a baby/fetus is more valuable than that of an animal.
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I'll tell you, and this is the ONLY one. Its because the human animal/man has the ability and the brains to come up with that idea, and verbalize it as fact! If an elephant, snake or rat could do the same, who do you think they would say is more valuable? Thinking we are more valuable is only by default. How was that? (smile)
I think that if a woman gets raped and get pregnent it´s their chosie if they want to keep it or not. Why would you give the rest of your live taking care of a child on your own against your will and if your not ready or have the money? it´s already to mutch people on earth anyway.
@TheKeade 1. work on spelling your words correctly 2. There are many ways to deal with a this situation other than murdering a helpless baby at any stage (Adoption etc.) PRO LIFE
@erickdb718 1. am not from a english speaking nation so english is not my language. 2. i think that if she got raped then pregnent its womans chose if they want to keep the baby or not. but thats just my opinion.
anyone who reads this and wants to voice an opinion in favor of abortion should ask themselves if they themselves would even be able to type anything if their mother aborted them. food for thought ay?
At what point do other people / society have the right, to decide over someone elses body, even if the decision goes against this persons will?
Here is a followup to that question
Would you be okay with, if person X was FORCED, against X:s own will, to be connected to person Y, just for the possibility in saving person Y:s life, and this process would make the persons Xs life restricted, and less enjoyable during this time?
@Turha101 o ur question was stupid as there is adoption. heres a fun fact there are 33 couples wanting to adopt to every 1 child that is availabe for adoption. if abortion wasnt around we would have enough people to support social security. anyway look at wat abortions done to russia its discusting
@Turha101 im bringing up adoption because its a valued point. is nine months of someones life worth someone elses life... well i believe so ur saying that pregnancy isnt worth a life. it is a stupid argument as a little pain is not worth a life. one question are u against the death penalty? also it isnt the babies fault that the mom got pregnant it is the MOMS FAULT and the pain of pregnancy should be a consequence.
That would be a silly argument, however thats not the one im making.
I thougt i was pretty clear with my analogy, that i was talking about wether or not people should be able to decide over their own bodies, or if other people / society should be able to make those decisions.
I dont see how the death penalty is of any relevanse, so ill stay out of that one.
I find it interesting how fast you are to blame the female part, what if the mom got raped, is it also then her fault?
@Turha101 its not just their bodies its also the bodies of the baby. and if killing someone for ur own enjoyment is ok then we as a country are messed up. no i was just asking a question are u for the death penalty its just a question. and that whole rape argument is so stupid as only 1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest. dude ur argument is wrong and still doesnt justify murder. and what if she wasnt raped then it IS HER FAULT!
Also who said anything about enjoyment? I think most, if not all women, do NOT enjoy having abortions.
I know that rape victims are not the majority, however you did not exclude them when you put all the blame on the female part, which was the reason to why i pointed out one group of womens whos fault it was not that they got pregnant.
I would not say that im making an argument, but rather puting a question out there.
@Turha101 well 1 % is a very minute number. most are because they were out partying and got drunk. and i know that most dont like it. i wouldnt care if it was because of medical problems or rape but most is caused by stupid teenagers being stupid. they should pay the consequinces and if they have them i know most regret it.
@Turha101 yes i am ok with abortions with medical reasons if the mother will have complications. Rape im not so sure on im not against it but im not for it eather. and its not sterotypical its what happens. the baby shouldnt die because of some stupid teenager didnt put on a condom
If you really feel that abortion is the same as killing babies,then i got one question for you.
Would you be ready to sentance everyone who has had an abortion for murder? If not, why not?
I personally dont think, that many people who claim that abortion is murder, really hold this belief. Simply because they would not have the same punishments for murder as for abortion, i do know some people would go this far.
@Turha101 personally i am a christian. and jesus said let the one without sin caust the first stone (sinful people cant discriminate against someone else who sins). personally i believe abortion is murder. and most people who have had abortions feel terrible about it. mostly when a person has an abortion its because of them being scared and not thinking things through. and abortion clinics lie and say that most people feel better about abortion. i wouldnt sentence everyone to answer ur question
People tend to have second thougts, and abortion is a huge decision, so there is no question about it, that people think hard about it, even after they have gone through it, however i find it hard to believe that MOST would feel terrible about it, got a scource to back that up with?
Would you sentence anyone for murder, who have had an abortion?
And would you sentence adults / kids who have murdered other aduls / kids for murder?
@Turha101 are u kidding me. u think that 16 year olds think long and hard about it. ur crazy they do it out of desperation and fear. and i know alot of people who have had them and they feel terrible about it and wish they could take it back. i would sentence murderers. i do think that most people who have done abortion feel bad about it but i cant imagine sentencing all of them considering the sheer volume of abortions done per year. im talking about outlawing it.
You do know that older women than 16 have abortions aswell?
Also what makes you think 16year olds would be unable to think about a decision like this?
And i have heard several people who have had an abortion, and they have been thankful for being able to decide when they are ready to have a child. I dont know wether or not the majority of people who have had abortions feel bad about it or not, however i would like something to back that statement up with.
I dont think you really believe that abortion is murder, and by murder i mean the same kind as in an kid / adult killing another kid / adult
Since i bet you would have no problem in sentencing murderers, even if the amount of them was big
I do agree that abortion is taking a life ( cells are alive afterall ), however i do not think, that you believe that life to be as valuable as a human life.
Since if you were, i would expect you to be ready to send people in jail for it.
@Turha101 i believe human life starts at conception thus i believe abortion is murder. im not gonna say if i would sentence them to life. but if it passed as a law anybody who continued to do it should be put in jail. and the thing is it would cripple america not to mention russia and china. who has had a ton of abortions that would not be a good thing to do as it would cripple all the worlds economies
Would you then be in favor of not puting anyone to jail for murder until this abortion thing has been resolved?
Since does it not sound a bit weird that people who commit one type of murder do not get put away, while other groups do?
And if there were several hundred thousand people in one small country, who have murdered other people, would you really not have a problem with them not being judged, just because there are so many of them?
Got any scources you could give me which would back up this claim? Since i really doubt that the majority of women in Russia, and even in china, would have had an abortion.
@Turha101 well in china its hard to dictate as there are no surveys but there is widespread abortion. in russia i do have proof as in there were more aboritions in russia in 2010 then births
Gotta say that it was interesting to find that out about russia, i guess you learn something every day :P
And i did some more reasearch regarding statistic facts about abortion and i gotta say that abortion seems to be way more popular than what i thougt it was.
Hey I'm a Christian and I KNOW abortion is wrong. And for all you morons who think it's just "nothing", you are dead mean. Even scientists today admit that at the moment of conception, the baby is a human. So--if you wanna support murder, ok. Fine. You can answer to God. :)
you can tell obama hates answering the questions about abortion....and to be honest i think obama personally dosent like abortion i can just tell on his face...hes jsut smart to realize that most americans do support the abortion and he grabbed there votes by siding with them
That's nice. The consensus of all medical ethicists, philosophers, scientists and other thinkers is that a human zygote is not a person. Nor does it have any of the properties of personhood. You lose . Again.
@multipurpose101 Depends on what life you're talking about. The human life in the sense of living being of the race homo sapiens begins at the conception. The human life that is the special one and that is different from ANIMALS begins at about 1-2 years of age. Below those age human beings are just like animals with the DNA of a human. It is not a single bit worse to kill a baby than killing an animal, infact it's even BETTER considering how animals are rather endangered in comparison to humans
@multipurpose101 This is such simple and foundamental biological knowledge, that the life of every single human being in the entire history of mankind, has began as a conceived cell. The moment of conception is the moment when the DNA of the individual human being is determined and from that moment the conceived cell divides and through that it creates all the cells of the entire human body, but none of the cells would exist, unless first the conceived cell exists. Simple, but some don't get it.
@jtw18 ... looks like you are still waiting for your brain to develop. You, and every single human being were a fetus. Just call it what it is "Murder". And you support it!
@multipurpose101 so then that leads me to ask if killing an embryo or fetus within the first trimester (where the majority of abortions take place) is on equal terms of killing a baby, or is it on fairly equal terms of brushing skin cells off of my arm? if left alone, a baby will grow, but if we are discussing the ethics of murder, why is potential being discussed? in the moment that a fetal life is terminated, does the fetus experience pain or consciousness?
@RonaldReaganization Besides the fact that you should just completely ignore my name because I chose a totally random one, pro-life can also be pro-abortion.
The sense that this group called "pro-life" is spreading however is just totally wrong. In their opinion, people should use the civilized advantage over the nature to breed as much as they can, until everyone sinks in their garbage. It's like in a petri-dish, it's a fucking disturbed way they promote there. I'm ALL IN for PREVENTION of life
~~~~~~~~ how dare your stupid ass compare living breathing "child" to an entity with the consciousness level of a god damned earthworm!!!Do you have ANY idea how disturbed that thinking is? Its like being obsessed with aliens from outer space! You have irrationally connected with something that dosent even come close to being an intrical part of our human beingness
~~~~~~~~~ Sure dumbass...stop abortion and put a possible one MILLION thrown away kids up for adoption for someone else to "deal" with. Thats 80 MILLION kids abandonded in your damned lifetime. try loving the kids more than you hate abortion.
~~~~~~~~~~ Good god, I hope so. The more you show your idiocy... the better for prochoice. Hang in their baby, show the world what you got!! hahahahah!!
Obama is not a coward. It shouldn't be called pro-choice and pro-life, it should be called pro-choice and anti-choice
smallvillewanabe123 4 days ago
@smallvillewanabe123 So if you had the option of advising your mother, that she should have aborted you, due to her financial or other issues she had at the time of being pregnant (let's suppose for the sake of the argument that she had those difficulties), would you advise her to do that?
ididete91 7 hours ago
NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA!!! Thank God!!! I love babies!!!
chris62008 6 days ago
When the egg and the sperm begin to divide into more and more cells the human being is begun.
Not at 20 something weeks, but the human being continues its whole life from the first cell divisions and only looks more human in later weeks.
Abominations, everyone who thinks ending a new human life is acceptable at any stage.
defender4uk 1 week ago
Every aspect of life is above this man's pay-grade. He's never had to do anything for himself, because he's had others to carry him along. The Campaigner-in-Chief who now seems to be more interested in a shot on American Idol (or is it "idle"?) than doing what he was elected to do. I mean, everything that this man promised has gone to the wayside, and he's embraced all of the worst aspects of Bush 2's administration. If the media wasn't totally behind this clown, his polls would tank.
yohannbiimu 1 week ago
Coward indeed, he's a satanist
Only1KevRamon 1 week ago
Obama does have a point: he isn't a medical professional, so he's willing to accept that he doesn't know based on what he does know right now.
But he could have given a better answer, because it felt like he was sitting on the fence as to not offend any voters.
DeadFishFactory 1 week ago
shoot I think that all blacks should vote for obama in 2012, obama stands behind planned parenthood and the negro project; which in turn means he stands behind the murder of thousands of black babies a year,,,yay
pugdogy 1 week ago
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Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even it it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babies RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
sobriquet1999 1 week ago
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Dear sincere liberals: Please be consistent regarding first principles. If you believe that a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body should be free of state interference, even as you concede that another viable and sentient life resides therein, you must continue this reasoning further. Shouldn't she then be free to decide what she does with the fruits of her labor? What function of government could supersede the protection of the innocent against the initiation of violence?
weavermama 1 week ago
it doesn't appear to be above his "pay grade" any more....hmmmmmmmmmm
willowstop 2 weeks ago
A fetus doesn't develop a nervous system until 20 weeks. Thus it cannot feel anything.
BreChi92 2 weeks ago
@BreChi92 Uhhhhh...has it ever occurred to you that abortions occur at ANY time during a woman's pregnancy? "Viability" doesn't matter to the "pro-choice" goons.
yohannbiimu 1 week ago
stop the clip at whatever point you want to and please check how wicked eyes he has.
Zituka1974 2 weeks ago
Shame on you!!!!you are definitely one of the antichrists. People,please, do you really not see it?
Zituka1974 2 weeks ago
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The majority of these ratings are dislikes. That is progess. GET THIS MAN OUT OF OFFICE.
lizardbreath422 2 weeks ago
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"Members of the Notre Dame faculty sent President Obama a letter declaring the HHS mandate is “a grave violation of religious freedom and cannot stand.”
Too bad they didn’t see this coming when they decided to invite and honor the most radical pro-abortion and pro-infanticide president in US history to speak at Commencement ceremonies in 2009."
---James Hoft 12 February 2012
MsRepoDude 2 weeks ago
Faulty thinking, MrGuppy. By your standards, anyone who is unconscious can be murdered. Anyone who is unthinking or unfeeling does not have life? Exactly WHEN does life begin? When it's WANTED? What if I no longer want my children? Do I kill them? Your worldview is a scary way to live. Who makes the rules in your world? The majority? What if the majority are corrupt?
snookles77 3 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 take away a life, not his own mother...
esaflygiirl123 3 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 i believe you are very misinformed with your facts! it is still not decided whether a fetus can experience pain during its 1st trimester, however it is certain that late-term and partial birth abortions are painful to the fetus during the 2nd or close to 3rd trimester. imagine yourself getting you limbs ripped off your body & getting your brains sucked out & then getting your skull crushed try to tell me that that wont be physically painful & int the bible its says that only god can
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Pro -choice people dont have characteristics, traits or intelligence!. You dont want anyone to have a choice, you want to sing the "I hate Christians" song so that the Satan worshiper/Freemason lodge wont boycott your souce of income. FACT
rydoguptop 3 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 you ignorant fool ! dont you know that a fetus is a being. it is a human fetus which makes it a human being, so it is human ! furthermore, i think your a little confused on what life really is, life can be anything from a tree to a fish to a human. however ofcourse, human life is more valuable so i think your REALLY confused with your facts ! you actually fall for the abortions business tricks that use dehuminizing names for a baby in the whom so that the public can actually think
esaflygiirl123 3 weeks ago
@esaflygiirl123 im not ignorant. but i cant blame you. tell me this, if parents cant take care of a baby, they gain their freedom from the baby by abortion. but you tell me what the baby has to lose? it has no feelings, zero intelligence, and cant feel physical pain. people who use god in their arguements forget that in the bible it says that god intended the life and death of all creatures.
MrGuppy000 3 weeks ago
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This is the worst president we ever had. A so called Christian who promotes homosexuality and abortion. This is a hypocrite.
GodFamilyCountryCorp 3 weeks ago
What a dishonest COWARD!
michaelsjolin 3 weeks ago 10
Thank you for you story MrGuppy000. I would say all in all things are going well for you .... despite a few challenges along the way. I understand your concern for the woman in this issue, very admirable. The only person who has no 'choice' in abortion is the baby. Everyone else, the mother, father, doctor, nurse, office staff, etc. ... they all are choosing for that baby ... and they are choosing death. Look at the photos of aborted babies .... horrific. Think of the baby .... please.
Bullcoleman 3 weeks ago
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Ramwhad 4 weeks ago
It seems like you should just admit that you don't care about the life of a baby. Part of a person's physical self is either always developing, getting worse, or changing in some way. People saying "a fetus isn't fully developed" don’t have a valid argument because neither is a teenager. And you will find very few people saying definitively when a fetus feel pain bc it isn't actually known for a fact. People as a whole are always advancing both physically & mentally so you can't know what that
Ramwhad 4 weeks ago 5
@Ramwhad no, i dont car about the life of the baby,- if its barely a baby.
MrGuppy000 4 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 but it is a baby. We are all barely something ... barely a teenager .... barely an adult .... but we have one thing in common .... we are all 'very' human. From conception until death .... it is the one journey. We don't start 3 months after conception ... 6 months .... nor were we created at birth. When we were born we had already existed for around 270 days. Enjoy your day sir.
Bullcoleman 3 weeks ago
@Bullcoleman the fact of existing doesnt make abortion sound in any way bad. tell me this, what about women who were raped, not ready to have a kid, or not even able to afford the child? which is pretty much the only reasons, good reasons. reasons that overtake the fact of a fertilized egg with no nerves, feeling or emotions and
MrGuppy000 3 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 So, you should punish the child for the sins or comfort of the father? 180movie.com
snookles77 3 weeks ago
@snookles77 how is it punishing if it didnt do anything? it cant feel emotional or physical pain and has zero intelligence. so it would kind of be impossible to really "punish". what if the woman is raped? a regretful teenager? a broken condom? dont they have right over a feotus with zero characteristics, traits or intelligence?
MrGuppy000 3 weeks ago
"underdeveloped" baby experiences if nobody else truly does. I'm pretty sure the word "mother" isn't the correct term. The majority of women that had abortions when they were young regret it a lot when they get older. So it isn't just the life of the child that is affected. Pregnancy is preventable, if a person isn't mature enough to prevent it they shouldn't have the right to take a life because it'll be an inconvenience to them. Every young single mother I know love their kids unconditionally
Ramwhad 4 weeks ago
& it changed them for the better. The girls I’ve met that had got abortions are still immature girls that worry only about themselves & contribute nothing to society. So what does that baby have to lose? The possibility of happiness, love, life, literally everything. I’m not trying to sway you & I very much doubt that I have. But I think it’s important for you to understand why people are against abortion. It comes down to the preservation, respect, and appreciation of an innocent human life.
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Ramwhad 4 weeks ago
Above his pay grade?Why don't he asks for more money from George Soros,maybe that'll be enough.
BZentinela 1 month ago
Translation
Obama: I dont know.
J5MARLON 1 month ago
The biggest disgrace in our country's history. Type the words "forgotten man painting" and click on the first video to see the picture that paints far more than a 1,000 words about this "Acting" Commander-in-Chief.
Mikey77B 1 month ago
people who are against abortion are ignorant. its a blop of tissue that has YET to become a human, its not even alive technically. and in the bible that all you christians brainwash yourselves with even says that god plans the life and death of everything. therefore he intends feotus's to die from a christian perspective. abortion is also helping people like paraplegics with stemcell research. its not "murder". its not "evil". its not "against god". and its not a bad idea! for god sake!
MrGuppy000 1 month ago
@MrGuppy000 .... If ignorance is bliss ... you must be the happiest person on the planet. Congratulations for siding with Margaret Sanger on this issue. Were you ever just a "blop of tissue"? And if you were murdered then would it have effected anyone you know?
Bullcoleman 1 month ago
@Bullcoleman yup, i was a blob of tissue, you were too, everyone was in the first 2 weeks of pregnancy. noone can murder by aborting, because murder suggests an illigal side to it. it would have effected people, my mum and dad obviously, by saveing them the time and money they cant afford. ide rather be aborted then be financially physically and mentally starving my not-ready for a baby parents.
MrGuppy000 1 month ago
@MrGuppy000 I am not sure what you are saying here. I will rephrase the question. Do you think your parents regret your birth? I hope the answer is no. And my point is ... do you think that in your life ... to this point .... have you had a positive effect on people you know. It is a little like the movie "It's a Wonderful Life" ... and I hope your life has been good this far.
Bullcoleman 4 weeks ago
@Bullcoleman i will tell you about my life, well, the sad parts anyway. everything else is pretty good. when i was five our family labrador died infront of me. and this was horrible because at the time i had a bigger bond with her than both my parents. i loved my parents, as much as anyone loves their parents. but ruby was like my mum too, she followed me everywhere, woke me up in the mornings, etc. so that kind of ruined my home life until i got a new dog.- 2 years later.
MrGuppy000 4 weeks ago
@Bullcoleman - i went through 1st & 2nd grade fine. but at thirde grade (at a catholic school) i was doubting my religion. this caused me to be targeted by teachers too. i was also in a class with all bullies. i had no friends that year, i went to 2 years phycology. i had one friend for less than a month in grade 4. grade 5 was the start of a new life to me though. im still only in high school so i dont have alot to tell. but in my short life some of it sucks. but my life now is ok.
MrGuppy000 4 weeks ago
@Bullcoleman so no, my parents dont regret my birth. but my point is that people who dont let their babies form to much and would regret birth should be able to use abortion.
MrGuppy000 4 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 You're lucky that you haven't really had any hardships. You may feel the way you do now, but I don't think you've experienced enough yet to fully appreciate life. You'll think a certain way now, then it'll change in university, & then again after that. The majority of well adjusted people in the world realize that abortion is wrong because it's killing an innocent life. Talk to women that had abortions when they were young, I doubt you'll find many that agree with your thinking.
Ramwhad 4 weeks ago
@Ramwhad so a fertilized egg has rights over a woman with feelings, intelligence and emotions is what you saying?
MrGuppy000 4 weeks ago
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@MrGuppy000 What rights are you talking about exactly? The rights of the child to have a chance to live a life? The rights to give a most likely immature & irresponsible girl the choice to kill a baby? What rights are being taken away from a girl that doesn't kill their child? It's argued that having a baby will effect the physical & mental well being of the woman. But abortion has very negative long term effects mentally & it kills an innocent living baby. So whose rights are being taken away?
Ramwhad 4 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 Technically he/she is most certainly alive, any scientist will tell you that. God plans for everyone to live; however God also gave us free will; some people use that to sin, for example to kill. Stem cells have yet to help anyone with anything. The only ones that have helped are those taken from adults or from umbilical cords of babies born alive. You should not make false claims, another sin, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
bpk0629 1 month ago
@MrGuppy000 And It's not "murder" it's killing,calling it "murder" would mean that it is killing that is illegal, which it is not, it is evil in the eyes of God,maybe not your eyes and saying it is not a bad idea, well that is your opinion. In God's opinion it is evil, because it is killing. That blob of tissue is a human, if you took the cells and tested them they would they would be human; therefore making it a human. Your rant is incorrect and needed to be refuted for God's sake!
bpk0629 1 month ago
@bpk0629 my rant isnt incorrect. i meant not a "human", its called human in your case because it has human DNA. ofcourse its "technically" alive, doesnt mean it has any feelings physically or emotionally. im an athiest so i dont care for god nonsense but ill disprove you here and now.- 'in the bible it says that god planned the creation and death of all things,' therefore its his will for abortion. how do you respond to that?
MrGuppy000 1 month ago
@MrGuppy000 First, please give me the Biblical quote you are referring to. I do know the Ten Commandments, one of which is You shall not kill. Exodus Chapter 20 verse13.
bpk0629 1 month ago
@MrGuppy000 Whether or not you believe in God is of no concern of mine. That is between you and God.
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@bpk0629 that would be a good observation, if feotuses were aborted 5-6 weeks after fertilization. but still it wouldnt "really" matter, its a potential human by then, but still has no feelings whatsoever
MrGuppy000 1 month ago
@MrGuppy000 Sure it does, have you never seen the "Silent Scream" Ultrasound Video.
bpk0629 1 month ago
@bpk0629 no reply because my computer stuffed up, that video had the feotus so much more formed than how old theyre supposed to be when aborted. i am against what was in that video just as much as you, but this is the 21st century, people KNOW that if they want to abort their babies they shouldnt let them grow to much!
MrGuppy000 1 month ago
@MrGuppy000 I'm not sure what your point is tho. With that thinking you admit that abortion is the killing of a growing baby. Scientists or whomever don't actually know when a baby starts to feel pain, there are plenty of guesses & estimates but that's all that they are. It's a long expensive process to give the death penalty to someone found guilty & usually they aren't conscious to feel it. Abortion is the killing of an Innocent baby that committed no wrong act, decided by a single person.
Ramwhad 1 month ago
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BZentinela 1 month ago
@Ramwhad if you read my comment closely, you would know my point is that i dont give a crap if the baby is only 1-5 weeks old, its just when idiot mothers leave the bread in the oven until its overcooked! (when the baby is in the womb for say six months and can potentially feel physical pain. theres just too much pain in this world as there is, you need to meet me halfway here.- what has a feotus with no emotions, or physical pain got to lose? a mother has rights over a to-be human!
MrGuppy000 4 weeks ago
@Ramwhad btw, by "to-be human" i mean an undeveloped human.
MrGuppy000 4 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 yes I assumed that
Ramwhad 4 weeks ago
@MrGuppy000 No reply?
bpk0629 1 month ago
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riverlife695 1 month ago
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Murder violates the basic human inclination to preserve innocent human life. Murder is the taking of innocent human life. An embryo is an identifiable individual, differing from a newborn infant only in being at an earlier stage on the long road to adult capacities and, if any life is innocent, that of an embryo is. If infanticide is murder, as it is, abortion is murder. Therefore, we fight to end abortion.
MrJohnnyRingo45 2 months ago
somone shoot that nigger
DMJR13 3 months ago
Oh, you're just a dumb kid.
IHABC8 2 months ago
@IHABC8 i bet you like dildos up your butt
DMJR13 2 months ago
@DMJR13 Gtfo cristian racist
go pray to your shit god so saten dont but rape you like your dad did
Thekitty0706fan 2 months ago
@Thekitty0706fan i dont beleive ingod, and i think abortion is wrong, its a crime against nature. Is it not? Thats how an athiest would say it.
DMJR13 1 month ago
@DMJR13 well think of it this way
Raped and pregnant
i think abort is needed there but other people that do it because they have sex allot i agree that is wrong.
Thekitty0706fan 2 weeks ago
@Thekitty0706fan if you were raped would you feel bad if you killed the little guy inside yourself? murder is is far worse than rape.
DMJR13 2 weeks ago
DOG SQUEEZE
Boomer1947 3 months ago
There is a difference between a living blastocyst and a person who can live on it's own if even for a few minutes or hours.
lvbgsiz 4 months ago
@lvbgsiz Was the person who can live on it's own never a BLASTOCYST? That person also was once a BLASTOCYST, therefore why that person got the CHANCE to develop his/her body within the womb of the woman and another living blastocyst has not that CHANCE, because it is not yet a person who can live on it's own? The only difference between them is that the blastocyst needs more time to develop, so as to be one day a person who can live on it's own, if even for a few minutes or hours. It it's life.
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cornsmuggler 4 months ago
Okay honestly. If you are against abortion, go ahead and be against it, don't get one, fine. But if you're against it AND for all other types of birth control.. Condoms, Pill and all that. Then what's the freaking difference, Yes Abortion is a last resort thing but really condoms kill the sperm, and don't allow the chance of conception.. so how is that any better?
I am pro choice, It's a decision solely up to the woman, nothing to do with anyone else so stop preaching you inconsiderate assholes
MartynTheEnglishGuy 4 months ago
If you dont support abortion, dont have one.
iamsmilingnow 4 months ago
@iamsmilingnow That is a completely ignorant thing to say. That's like saying "if you don't support the death penalty, then don't go break the law in go to jail." or "If you don't support murder, then don't kill people." or "If you don't support slavery, then don't own a slave." We are not pro-life so that we can only protect our own children, or other children, we are pro-life because we defend the rights to life of every single person, born or unborn.
kelseyforte 4 months ago
@kelseyforte That is a good point, but I don't feel abortion is equivalent to murder or slavery. If you think fetuses are alive then that's your right, but there are others who feel otherwise. Abortion isn't the equivalent of the crimes you describe.
iamsmilingnow 4 months ago
@iamsmilingnow Also, I could care less if you're pro-choice. However, don't use that ignorant argument because that shows how uneducated and naive you are. Think before you say something publicly.
kelseyforte 4 months ago
Doesn't the brain not develop (fully) until the 3rd trimester. They can't feel pain or think until then. What people really forget is that this is a decision that is not taken lightly. The mother doesn't come out unscathed. She will feel guilt over the decision and may have problems with the operation itself.
MrShyguy0 5 months ago
I'm 100% pro-abortion.
globin3 5 months ago
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onstageagain 5 months ago
what a dumb moron...
420dieter 5 months ago
I am Pro Choice. Deal with it.
ndrthrdr1 6 months ago 2
@ndrthrdr1 Sure, I acknowledge the presences of bad people and good people alike.
ROlshansky1 6 months ago
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I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.
camthejock 6 months ago
He's simply too cowardly to answer the question. If one is pro-abortion, then the simple answer to the man's question is that a baby doesn't get human rights until after it is born (assuming of course, that one is pro-abortion through the entire pregnancy/gestation). If a person is one of the varieties of anti-abortion supporters, then the answer is somewhere between conception and birth. The caveat of course, is that human rights confers a right to life.
sfinster 6 months ago
Someone please give me ONE argument why the life of a baby/fetus is more valuable than that of an animal.
Keep in mind that the argument of that it will be a human in the future has been proven wrong, out of the simple fact that we do NOT need more humans on this planet, and you can conceive just another life every goddamn month.
ChuckNorris103 6 months ago
@ChuckNorris103 because an animal wont potentially grow up to cure cancer or invent something amazing to help the human condition
joeratti 5 months ago
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@joeratti says: because an animal wont potentially grow up to cure cancer or invent something amazing to help the human condition
~~~~~~~~~~ Nor will it become a mass murderer, a child molester and killer, or a Charles Manson follower.. or become a burden on society,
Sueezee1 5 months ago
@joeratti An animal wont grow up to commit mass genocide, or infanticide, or to bomb abortion clinics are kills millions for religious reasons. That's a tired response, for every potential Einstein or Gandhi there's another Hitler or Bush out there.
humanistheart 5 months ago
@joeratti Did you read the "keep in mind"? What the person will be in the end is dependant to 90% on the learning in childhood and to 10% on genetics of the parents, which can be reproduced EVERY MONTH.
What I'm saying is that unborn/babies are totally worthless by themselves, except maybe if the parents had a hard time conceiving the child. They're just like some biological templates which only later develop into the valuable human being.
ChuckNorris103 5 months ago
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@ChuckNorris103 says: Someone please give me ONE argument why the life of a baby/fetus is more valuable than that of an animal.
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I'll tell you, and this is the ONLY one. Its because the human animal/man has the ability and the brains to come up with that idea, and verbalize it as fact! If an elephant, snake or rat could do the same, who do you think they would say is more valuable? Thinking we are more valuable is only by default. How was that? (smile)
Sueezee1 5 months ago
All babies are conceived.
Most conceptions do not survive.
Ergo most early abortions are merely helping Mother Nature with her failed conceptions.
realveive 6 months ago
I think that if a woman gets raped and get pregnent it´s their chosie if they want to keep it or not. Why would you give the rest of your live taking care of a child on your own against your will and if your not ready or have the money? it´s already to mutch people on earth anyway.
TheKeade 7 months ago
@TheKeade 1. work on spelling your words correctly 2. There are many ways to deal with a this situation other than murdering a helpless baby at any stage (Adoption etc.) PRO LIFE
erickdb718 7 months ago
@erickdb718 1. am not from a english speaking nation so english is not my language. 2. i think that if she got raped then pregnent its womans chose if they want to keep the baby or not. but thats just my opinion.
TheKeade 7 months ago
I think it's hilarious that this cold-hearted turd can't even give answer that. It seems to me that pro-choicers are always stumped by that question.
nikkiarielle20 8 months ago
anyone who reads this and wants to voice an opinion in favor of abortion should ask themselves if they themselves would even be able to type anything if their mother aborted them. food for thought ay?
hetismij21 8 months ago
@hetismij21
Answer: Nope.
Well that was hard.
Now right back at ya.
At what point do other people / society have the right, to decide over someone elses body, even if the decision goes against this persons will?
Here is a followup to that question
Would you be okay with, if person X was FORCED, against X:s own will, to be connected to person Y, just for the possibility in saving person Y:s life, and this process would make the persons Xs life restricted, and less enjoyable during this time?
Turha101 8 months ago
@Turha101 wat part of birth is restricting or less enjoyable. there is a thing called ADOPTION
seminoleboy96 8 months ago
@seminoleboy96
I said ''during this time'', by witch i meant the whole process person X would be connected to person Y, and not just about the last moments.
I think you know how being pregnant restricts ones life, so i doubt i have to give examples of this.
Also why did you bother replying to my comment, when you did not even give me an answer on the analogy, which was the main point of my post.
Turha101 8 months ago
@Turha101 o ur question was stupid as there is adoption. heres a fun fact there are 33 couples wanting to adopt to every 1 child that is availabe for adoption. if abortion wasnt around we would have enough people to support social security. anyway look at wat abortions done to russia its discusting
seminoleboy96 8 months ago
@seminoleboy96
If you find my question to be stupid, please explain how and why its stupid.
The post that i wrote, had nothing to do with adoption, i dont see why you are bringing it up.
Turha101 8 months ago
@Turha101 im bringing up adoption because its a valued point. is nine months of someones life worth someone elses life... well i believe so ur saying that pregnancy isnt worth a life. it is a stupid argument as a little pain is not worth a life. one question are u against the death penalty? also it isnt the babies fault that the mom got pregnant it is the MOMS FAULT and the pain of pregnancy should be a consequence.
seminoleboy96 8 months ago
@seminoleboy96
That would be a silly argument, however thats not the one im making.
I thougt i was pretty clear with my analogy, that i was talking about wether or not people should be able to decide over their own bodies, or if other people / society should be able to make those decisions.
I dont see how the death penalty is of any relevanse, so ill stay out of that one.
I find it interesting how fast you are to blame the female part, what if the mom got raped, is it also then her fault?
Turha101 8 months ago
@Turha101 its not just their bodies its also the bodies of the baby. and if killing someone for ur own enjoyment is ok then we as a country are messed up. no i was just asking a question are u for the death penalty its just a question. and that whole rape argument is so stupid as only 1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest. dude ur argument is wrong and still doesnt justify murder. and what if she wasnt raped then it IS HER FAULT!
seminoleboy96 8 months ago
@seminoleboy96
So is your answer yes to my second analogy?
Also who said anything about enjoyment? I think most, if not all women, do NOT enjoy having abortions.
I know that rape victims are not the majority, however you did not exclude them when you put all the blame on the female part, which was the reason to why i pointed out one group of womens whos fault it was not that they got pregnant.
I would not say that im making an argument, but rather puting a question out there.
Turha101 8 months ago
@Turha101 well 1 % is a very minute number. most are because they were out partying and got drunk. and i know that most dont like it. i wouldnt care if it was because of medical problems or rape but most is caused by stupid teenagers being stupid. they should pay the consequinces and if they have them i know most regret it.
seminoleboy96 8 months ago
@seminoleboy96
So you are not against abortion if its a special case, such as rape or medical reasons, did i get that part right?
But if abortions in those cases are okay, then why are you against, the stereotypical case where someone goes out, gets drunk, and then gets pregnant.
Personally i dont have a problem with abortions, even for the drunken teenagers case that you brought up.
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 yes i am ok with abortions with medical reasons if the mother will have complications. Rape im not so sure on im not against it but im not for it eather. and its not sterotypical its what happens. the baby shouldnt die because of some stupid teenager didnt put on a condom
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96
If you really feel that abortion is the same as killing babies,then i got one question for you.
Would you be ready to sentance everyone who has had an abortion for murder? If not, why not?
I personally dont think, that many people who claim that abortion is murder, really hold this belief. Simply because they would not have the same punishments for murder as for abortion, i do know some people would go this far.
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 personally i am a christian. and jesus said let the one without sin caust the first stone (sinful people cant discriminate against someone else who sins). personally i believe abortion is murder. and most people who have had abortions feel terrible about it. mostly when a person has an abortion its because of them being scared and not thinking things through. and abortion clinics lie and say that most people feel better about abortion. i wouldnt sentence everyone to answer ur question
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96
People tend to have second thougts, and abortion is a huge decision, so there is no question about it, that people think hard about it, even after they have gone through it, however i find it hard to believe that MOST would feel terrible about it, got a scource to back that up with?
Would you sentence anyone for murder, who have had an abortion?
And would you sentence adults / kids who have murdered other aduls / kids for murder?
I bet you see where im going with this :)
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 are u kidding me. u think that 16 year olds think long and hard about it. ur crazy they do it out of desperation and fear. and i know alot of people who have had them and they feel terrible about it and wish they could take it back. i would sentence murderers. i do think that most people who have done abortion feel bad about it but i cant imagine sentencing all of them considering the sheer volume of abortions done per year. im talking about outlawing it.
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96 1 / 2
You do know that older women than 16 have abortions aswell?
Also what makes you think 16year olds would be unable to think about a decision like this?
And i have heard several people who have had an abortion, and they have been thankful for being able to decide when they are ready to have a child. I dont know wether or not the majority of people who have had abortions feel bad about it or not, however i would like something to back that statement up with.
Turha101 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96 2/2
I dont think you really believe that abortion is murder, and by murder i mean the same kind as in an kid / adult killing another kid / adult
Since i bet you would have no problem in sentencing murderers, even if the amount of them was big
I do agree that abortion is taking a life ( cells are alive afterall ), however i do not think, that you believe that life to be as valuable as a human life.
Since if you were, i would expect you to be ready to send people in jail for it.
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 i believe human life starts at conception thus i believe abortion is murder. im not gonna say if i would sentence them to life. but if it passed as a law anybody who continued to do it should be put in jail. and the thing is it would cripple america not to mention russia and china. who has had a ton of abortions that would not be a good thing to do as it would cripple all the worlds economies
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96
Would you then be in favor of not puting anyone to jail for murder until this abortion thing has been resolved?
Since does it not sound a bit weird that people who commit one type of murder do not get put away, while other groups do?
And if there were several hundred thousand people in one small country, who have murdered other people, would you really not have a problem with them not being judged, just because there are so many of them?
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 wat no they should still go to prison. and that has never happened where a majority of a country has killed someone
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96
You think the majority of women have had an abortion?
Granted i dont know the excat numbers, however i strongly doubt that the majority of women have had an abortion.
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 i mean in china and russia which is true
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96
Really?
Got any scources you could give me which would back up this claim? Since i really doubt that the majority of women in Russia, and even in china, would have had an abortion.
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 well in china its hard to dictate as there are no surveys but there is widespread abortion. in russia i do have proof as in there were more aboritions in russia in 2010 then births
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
@seminoleboy96
Gotta say that it was interesting to find that out about russia, i guess you learn something every day :P
And i did some more reasearch regarding statistic facts about abortion and i gotta say that abortion seems to be way more popular than what i thougt it was.
Turha101 7 months ago
@Turha101 yep its crazy. nice conversation
seminoleboy96 7 months ago
Let me help you.
Each and every human life begins AT CONCEPTION.
temp911Luke 8 months ago
Hey I'm a Christian and I KNOW abortion is wrong. And for all you morons who think it's just "nothing", you are dead mean. Even scientists today admit that at the moment of conception, the baby is a human. So--if you wanna support murder, ok. Fine. You can answer to God. :)
msguitar1451 8 months ago
you can tell obama hates answering the questions about abortion....and to be honest i think obama personally dosent like abortion i can just tell on his face...hes jsut smart to realize that most americans do support the abortion and he grabbed there votes by siding with them
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WillToNihilsm 8 months ago
A zygote is not a person. Abortion is not controversial.
beesleeper 9 months ago
@beesleeper Psychology says that human development begins at contraception. Therefore, psychology begs to differ. Abortion is not controversial.
multipurpose101 8 months ago 8
@multipurpose101
That's nice. The consensus of all medical ethicists, philosophers, scientists and other thinkers is that a human zygote is not a person. Nor does it have any of the properties of personhood. You lose . Again.
beesleeper 8 months ago
@beesleeper Killing a human being at any stage of his/her life is murder, and according to my biology and psychology professors,
life begins at conception for two reasons respectively. One, zygotes grow into babies while individual sperm and
egg do not. Two, human development begins at conception. Therefore, killing zygotes is murder just as much as killing infants,
adults or teenagers is murder. Now, if life does not begin at conception, then when does it?
multipurpose101 8 months ago 21
@multipurpose101 Depends on what life you're talking about. The human life in the sense of living being of the race homo sapiens begins at the conception. The human life that is the special one and that is different from ANIMALS begins at about 1-2 years of age. Below those age human beings are just like animals with the DNA of a human. It is not a single bit worse to kill a baby than killing an animal, infact it's even BETTER considering how animals are rather endangered in comparison to humans
ChuckNorris103 6 months ago
@multipurpose101 This is such simple and foundamental biological knowledge, that the life of every single human being in the entire history of mankind, has began as a conceived cell. The moment of conception is the moment when the DNA of the individual human being is determined and from that moment the conceived cell divides and through that it creates all the cells of the entire human body, but none of the cells would exist, unless first the conceived cell exists. Simple, but some don't get it.
HamalachMichael 3 months ago
@multipurpose101 a fetus doesnt even begin to develop a brain until week 4
jtw18 3 months ago
@jtw18 ... looks like you are still waiting for your brain to develop. You, and every single human being were a fetus. Just call it what it is "Murder". And you support it!
Bullcoleman 1 month ago
@Bullcoleman yes murder is what i support.
jtw18 1 month ago
@multipurpose101 so then that leads me to ask if killing an embryo or fetus within the first trimester (where the majority of abortions take place) is on equal terms of killing a baby, or is it on fairly equal terms of brushing skin cells off of my arm? if left alone, a baby will grow, but if we are discussing the ethics of murder, why is potential being discussed? in the moment that a fetal life is terminated, does the fetus experience pain or consciousness?
laGuerisseuse 2 months ago
@beesleeper "That's not opinion, that's science. And
science is one cold hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on."
multipurpose101 8 months ago 7
@beesleeper FYI Zygotes are not persons (def: any being that can think or reflect) but they still grow into human beings.
multipurpose101 8 months ago
@multipurpose101
"Can" But at the moment of abortion they are not persons, so there is no reason to oppose abortion.
beesleeper 8 months ago
@multipurpose101 Well guess what: It doesn't. Name me just ONE THING that is psychologically heavily more advanced in a baby than in an animal.
ChuckNorris103 6 months ago
@ChuckNorris103 The REAL Chuck Norris is PRO-LIFE. So, will the REAL Chuck Norris please stand-up????
RonaldReaganization 6 months ago
@RonaldReaganization Besides the fact that you should just completely ignore my name because I chose a totally random one, pro-life can also be pro-abortion.
The sense that this group called "pro-life" is spreading however is just totally wrong. In their opinion, people should use the civilized advantage over the nature to breed as much as they can, until everyone sinks in their garbage. It's like in a petri-dish, it's a fucking disturbed way they promote there. I'm ALL IN for PREVENTION of life
ChuckNorris103 5 months ago
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@RonaldReaganization says: The REAL Chuck Norris is PRO-LIFE.
~~~~~~~~~~ hes also a damned bible thumper.
Sueezee1 5 months ago
@multipurpose101 u got a typo there, conception. just correcting
LasagnaIsGood 4 months ago
@multipurpose101 I never mentioned that there was any correlation between murder & slavery with abortion. I was simply giving an analogy.
kelseyforte 4 months ago
My womb, my rules. Long live abortion.
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 I noticed you used the word "live" I find that ironic.
ScotchTapeWorm 9 months ago
@ScotchTapeWorm It was meant to be.
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
I Don't See How People Could Go Through With Abortion , You're Killing A Child.
Either Way .. If You Were Raped or Make A Mistake , That's You're Kid You're Killing Even If You Didn't Plan For It.
You Can Go Through With It '& Then Put Them Up For Adoption .. I'm Sixteen and Even If It Was Hard On Me , I Would Never Kill A Baby.
RadiateYourLove94 9 months ago
@RadiateYourLove94 says: You're Killing A Child.
~~~~~~~~ how dare your stupid ass compare living breathing "child" to an entity with the consciousness level of a god damned earthworm!!!Do you have ANY idea how disturbed that thinking is? Its like being obsessed with aliens from outer space! You have irrationally connected with something that dosent even come close to being an intrical part of our human beingness
Sueezee1 9 months ago
@RadiateYourLove94 says: Put Them Up For Adoption
~~~~~~~~~ Sure dumbass...stop abortion and put a possible one MILLION thrown away kids up for adoption for someone else to "deal" with. Thats 80 MILLION kids abandonded in your damned lifetime. try loving the kids more than you hate abortion.
Sueezee1 9 months ago
@Sueezee1 Try Loving The Kids More Than You Hate Abortion ?
You Fucking Idiot .. It DOES Show You Love The Kid More If You Don't Have An Abortion , DUMBASS.
& By The Way .. I Didn't Ask For Your Damn Opinion , Dick.
It's America , I Get To Say What I Want.
Who The Hell Cares If They Don't Listen To Me , I'm Putting My Opinion Out There.
Hope You Have A Fucking Nice Day. -__-
RadiateYourLove94 8 months ago
@RadiateYourLove94 says: It DOES Show You Love The Kid More If You Don't Have An Abortion
~~~~~~~~~~~ Sure, you non thinking little twit!! Have million of unwanted, unguided often hated babies and show your love! LOL.
PRO ROE...PRO WOMEN...PRO CHOICE.
Sueezee1 8 months ago
@RadiateYourLove94 says: I'm Putting My Opinion Out There.
~~~~~~~~~~ Good god, I hope so. The more you show your idiocy... the better for prochoice. Hang in their baby, show the world what you got!! hahahahah!!
Sueezee1 8 months ago
@RadiateYourLove94 puked up: Didn't Ask For Your Damn Opinion , Dick.It's America , I Get To Say What I Want.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Its America, I get to say what I want....LMFAO~~~
Sueezee1 8 months ago
@Sueezee1 Aw , You're Soo Funny , CUNT.
Get A Mother Fucking Life & Stop Replying To Post , DAMNNN !
RadiateYourLove94 8 months ago