Do you guys really expect a European car show to give props to an American car and slander their own? I love how he starts up by talking about how crappy the BMW zeta is and then finally reveals that the whole point of dumbing it down was so that he can trash the Viper by saying how it's even worse. They clearly don't understand the soul and meaning of american "muscle" cars. You can't scrutinize all cars under the same track & microscope if you know what I mean.
jeremy clarkson is funny, i like his show, but sometimes he's a dick! i can understand euro cars but i dont think europeans understand american cars. granted we dont have alot of high performance cars like they do (because of the american attitude towards cars) american performance cars have always been about brute force. i just love all cars.
@starrdogchamp1 i think his point is that american car makers are lazy they have such good spec on paper and some amazing engines and then the handling always lets it down. i mean what the point in making a performance car if your not going to do it properly? i take ur point though he is a knob at times haha.
@motorola222 point taken. i think it might be a geographical thing also. mid section and southern section of the states are straight long roads with really not many turns. northern and eastern part of the states has twisty roads but.....too populated to enjoy it. yes american sports cars really dont follow through with execution of the potential of the car. i still love that "wanker"(i believe thats the right saying in the uk right)? and his show. lol
this is why we love american muscle. because they're motherfuckin uncivilized. fuck civilized gay european cars, they're just boxes on wheels. American muscle is for MEN not pussies.
You have to realize that American developers could really give a shit less about quality anyway. America is all about the money and fucking people over. Cheap this cheap that, so you can talk all the shit you want but we're really not trying so there's no point in being a dick. Jeremy just really tries to make himself feel better about himself.
V10 8.4L developed from Lamborghini at the last 80's, with no traction control for real race car drivers... against a 3.2L crap for feeling civilized in congested traffic trying to make an impression in a teenage blonde? COME ON...
Compare a Viper with a Porsche, a Lamborghini, an Aston Martin, a REAL SUPERCAR... not a playboy refined nonsense...
Umm, the Viper in this video is the 8.3L V10, not the 8.4L. Those are a difference of about 100hp. Also, the newer SRT10 Viper, with the 8.4L, has a MUCH greater handling ability than the older ones.
@MuerteQuerida mate. your precious muscle car with an 8.3L V10 had a dead heat with a 3.2L convertable. and you say that its a real race car. that racing car just got embarrassed by, how did you put it, "a 3.2L crap for feeling civilized in congested traffic trying to make an impression in a teenage blonde?"
@12valvepower4 so your adding a acr to race against the z4, your obviously braindead.
And for the rest crying that it was a pretty much dead race AND im european, i would still take the Viper over the z4...anyday. It´s amazing how americans shit their pants as soon as a nice car like the viper gets matched with some european and its an even race. Face it, Viper is a raw brute with the looks to go with it, z4 is just...meh. Get over it.
I love how retarded some Europeans are when it comes to American cars. I think its hilarious how they seriously take Clarksons opinion into account on every car. They really wanna suck his wee wee.
Europeans don't get Americans and their cars. The reason the Viper is the way it is, is because Americans like that as much as cars that corner. Look at the Mustang and F-bodies. Neither of which are known for their handling (average to above average handling cars). Yet then we put out cars like the Corvette which can handle with some of the best cars in the world
But the BMW doesn't have side-exit exhaust....haha it's just not the same! I was surprised the BMW didn't win the race and I would still rather have the Viper. The roaring, crackling, lurching V10 is what makes the car so much fun, not the pinpoint handling and no-drama acceleration of the BMW. As far as having a good time when you drive, the Viper should win hands-down in my opinion. But that's just me. Haha
Mr. Clarkson... explain to me why o' why the Dodge Viper ACR holds the record at the Nurburgring for the 4th fastest all time car? Please, if you cant drive, dont.
Why suprised its 9 seconds slower than an atom? ITS A MUSCLE CAR!!!, sure brits realy do make the best and fastest and urm cheapest track cars that will eat anything round a twisty track but there is something special about american muscle admit it!
5:17 - not EUROPE's (?) finest hour? I thought this car was from Germany. Interesting how the "nazis" or "krauts" as we are still called today by the british become european best friends when it comes to BMW :D
I am confused by Clarkson and his repeated use of the initials B.M. for B.M.W. Maybe it doesn't mean the same thing there as it does here? However we are talking about the homeland of Thomas Crapper, the man who decided to name his toilet company after him and the rest is history.
8:37 because American cars don't do turns, they do straightaways. We don't have roundabouts here on the highways, clarkson. That's why, mate, that's why.
@redreaper2020 I guess corvette should stop winning road race championships... In the 80's our cars didn't turn. In the year 2012 you can bet your ass THEY ALL TURN. Here's a little American racing history lesson for you. COrvettes beat ferrari's, lambo's, aston martin, etc. /wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette_C5-R
@EliteLX I think he's talking about factory cars -.- You can make anything go fast with enough money doing R&D for a race track. Big difference when comparing factory cars around a track factoring in things like price tag etc...
@redreaper2020 And you don't have race tracks and drifting competitions and hill climbs and... you get the idea. No excuse not to make a car handle and stop better. That said there's a few american cars I really really like ^^. Top spot AC Cobra (roadster shelby thing), then vettes late 60's stingrays, zo6, zr1, then the svt cobra mustang, viper right after and finally the GT40...the original not that new pos. They'd be in my dream garage
@BETHELRobbie1 Simply put, this guy hates american cars. He hates america for the most part. The only car I have seen him actually like is the z06 and he had alot of shit to say about it anyways.
@DreamsMemories well, there is a lot of bad things to say about it. granted, its a great performance car, but is made of some of the cheapest materials you can find.
English people (top gear) have never reviewed a American car good. Props to Germans tho for sure!... But england by far makes the worst cars, and always says their car is the best. when there really not.
The 03 srt10 viper was running high 7s at the ring back in 2003. Trust me back then averaging 7.50-7.59 wasn't just kinda fast. It was blazing fast. The 2008 viper with an extra 90 hp took that number down to 7.20-7.30 which again is very very fast and the viper in acr form is now sitting at 7.12.13 around the ring and is the fastest regular production car in the world. I've had vette,nsx, rx7 and many others. On my third viper though. The speed handling and exoticness is very addicting
14attack. I owned a 99 viper and currently a 510 hp srt10 like in the vid. Your 96 was a amazing track car in the mid 90s but not so great today. The 03 and up srt10s on the other hand are track monsters. They have world class brakes and handling and have beaten the z06 and r8 on several heads up road course reviews . The days of viper subpar handling and brakes died in 2002. The srt10s changed all that. My 03 is currently 620 hp and has eiback lowering springs on nitro tires and it is superb
I'm so glad Jeremy Clarkson, known for his world-class journalistic objectivity, showed a fair and completely unscripted race between a BMW and a Dodge. I know everyone watches races for their entertainment value but this is clearly a scientific experiment he decided to have recorded. If it were not for this, I wouldn't be able to tell which country deserves to exist more than another based on what two cars do on a race track in an entertainment show.
@Karoth313 Dude I'm not trying to start an argument, but you must not have watched the race close enough if you think this was a fair race. First off, any professional driver could've taken turns way better in the viper than this driver. Second, ever since the third gen SRTs have come to life, they have destroyed the track. I'm not denying that the Z4-M is a great car, I'm just saying that it doesn't compare to the Viper. It's a staged race
@rydrag Clearly you know less than me about cars and racing in general. I suggest you watch the documentary series "Fast and the Furious" and then we can have a real man's discussion on driving technique.
@Karoth313 Again, notice how i said I'm not trying to start an argument. If you're gonna be rude, fine. You say I know less than you about cars and racing? Prove it. You have said nothing to support your claim. Also, I do love the "Fast And Furious" series but lets be honest, they are not the most realistic movies. If you want to have a discussion on driving technique then lets do it. When racing, it's more efficient to brake, then accelerate than drift. Do Le Mans cars drift? No.
@Karoth313 Does any car that racing on Nurburgring drift? Also, no real race car driver would take a turn so wide. (Notice how I have addressed all of your points. If you wish do have a decent argument and/or discussion, I suggest you do the same)
@rydrag I don't think you know who you're dealing with. I've gotten all gold trophies in Gran Turismos 1 AND 3 plus I've beaten Disney's Cars: Lightning McQueen's Desert Dash several times. I'm afraid you haven't backed up your credentials so I can't really take you seriously. Sorry, mate.
@Karoth313 ROFL!!! Either you're trolling or you're just a complete idiot. If you really think video games are YOUR credentials, then I pity you. Also ONCE AGAIN you have not addressed anything I said. Again either you're trolling or just stupid
@rydrag I see by resorting the 'troll' card (the weakest card) you're admitting defeat. My monocle is still firmly secured in front of my eye. No sweat. I've won many internet arguments (I've got trophies from 2008 and 2010) and I will add this to my victory column.
@bttawfiq That viper in the video has about 53/47 weight distribution and it does not have the best stopping power...come on its a big fucking crude american powerwagon theres no finesse to it. in a way its very nice to have a big fucking powerfull rear wheel drive to play with but in the other hand you have no fucking handling.
@HellSoldyr The Viper 2003-up has indeed very powerful brakes, look it up.
As for the handling, all professional drivers commend the Viper as a great track car, so why are you so sure it has no handling? because Jeremy Clarkson said so? the Viper has to be driven professionally to take advantage of it's capability, this is not the case with other supercars such as the Gallardo LP560 or the Nissan GTR
@bttawfiq yup the 2003 Viper was the first production car motortrend tested to break the 100ft distance from 60-0 mph.And this test with the Z4M is such bullshit. If the fatass guy behind the Viper could drive the thing it wouldn't even have been a close race.
I just finished watching this entire show The Good, The Bad, The Ugly. It is almost sickening how biased and just plain ignorant he is while hosting that video. Worse yet, people actually gather information from him and think it's concrete stuff. It's no wonder most people can't stand Americans and their products if they're gullable enough to buy into this.
if i could ever see that guy in person i would get his autograph then kick his ass because he thinks Europe is the shit were all the shit u little fag now get over it haha
of course it was staged, he british, theres no way he'll admit something american is better than something european, why do you think every time he reviews an american car he puts so much emphasis on the interior
High drag coefficient, no world class suspension tuning, no where near 100hp per liter, lack of variable cam phasing, valve timing, variable air induction, lack of aluminum forged suspension components but it still gets you pussy though. I'd rather take a BMW M3 any day myself however.
Dodge Viper is a piece of junk on whels, comment from an ex Viper GTS owner. thits is a redneck car to the bone, a loud picece of shit with lousy brakes and sudstandard suspension.
I believe the SRT10 holds the #4 spot on the Nür. Bested only by to Radicals and a Gumpert Apollo which are magnitudes of price more expensive. Just because we didn't kill a snow leopard and log an acre of rainforest to make the interior doesn't mean it's not good.
I remember when I first watched this review. It was the turning point for me concerning Top Gear's credibility as far as reviewing cars. Every corner in that race the Viper took very wide. The Viper is routinely commended for its great handling. This race was staged.
@GrindMicro Jeremy is idiolized as a car guru. His opinion is highly respected, so you're saying his biased nonsense concerning American cars is okay cause it's just a TV show? Don't be stupid.
@dude2106 Regardless of the name of this show, Jeremy is a Top Gear host. He's reviewing these cars with the same approach he does with the cars on Top Gear, along with the other two hosts (James and Hammond I believe).
@kickwagon That might be true, but the fact of the matter is that Jeremy's approach in this show is NOT the same as the whole Top Gear show, nor the magazine.
You might think Jeremy's credibility is gone, but that is another thing.
@dude2106 i have so much trouble finding the clarkson viper vid with a vette commercial at the end, but i always begin my search with top gear. what was this from??
@kickwagon Dear boy, you must have your head stuck in a garbage bin. If you were paying even a second's notice. This is not Top Gear. Its Jeremy's own show. Now that you know, get your head in that bin again.
@kickwagon if he's never driven the viper before and doesn't understand it's handling characteristics, it's done. but i'd expect someone new to the viper to understeer like a bitch. i agree with you, i don't think this is a real race. a true racing car driver would learn how to handle any sort of car relatively quickly. at least simply enough to guide it around a track faster than a car with -200hp. so it's not top gear? doesn't detract from the fact that the race is staged. you're all so smart.
@SeanMS3 True. I now for a fact that some Beemers come with really sorted rubber as standard, could really be a case of the Viper not having as good a set of tires on? It should have won but the guy was sailing wide on a lot of the corners imo too.
@kickwagon Sure it's not a fair race, it's set up for entertainment pourposes. Still, that does not make the Viper any less shit, it really is an awful car.
@kickwagon the viper has always been known for its raw power..not handling. you want a car that is great for handling then look up a GT-R now thats a fucking car with some nice handling.
you cant just hop into a viper and expect to be able to tame it, especially someone as bad at driving as jeremy. its not that kind of car, theres not even any traction control. i think the nurburgring time speaks for itself
@PoorIllyrian Judging by how poor your english is, you didn't even understand my comment. Because what you just said doesn't make any sense in relation to what I said. I was talking about the Vipers weight, not the engine volume.
@PoorIllyrian Not my best side? I own a 1979 Datsun 280ZX which I repair myself, and restored with 2 other friends. I also go out to my local track, BlackHawk Farms Raceway at least once per month.
I'm going to assume cars aren't YOUR best side, and neither is English.
@PoorIllyrian Dur! That was more like action entertainment for television than real racing. "America" didn't need an 8.2L to compete with a 3.2L forced induction car. Dodge CHOSE n/a over forced induction intentionally for the Viper because its concept is based on being a roadster. Any clue what a roadster is? It's a big engine with two seats and not much else. No bells/whistles or bling-bling. Can you imagine if they did use a turbo? Forced induction is not some kind of esoteric technology.
this car doesnt got a computer or abs in it so its a real driver car....
BOREDfromX2z 2 hours ago
8.2 liter wow i didn't know that
joschomo1010 5 hours ago
He's still mad about the Revolutionary War.
duronimal 2 days ago
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duronimal 2 days ago
" I do like it though " Jeremy
D3THSCreaM 2 days ago 3
Do you guys really expect a European car show to give props to an American car and slander their own? I love how he starts up by talking about how crappy the BMW zeta is and then finally reveals that the whole point of dumbing it down was so that he can trash the Viper by saying how it's even worse. They clearly don't understand the soul and meaning of american "muscle" cars. You can't scrutinize all cars under the same track & microscope if you know what I mean.
TheShar1ngan 2 days ago
this car has what most modern crazy horsepower cars don't..Soul
ashneel99 3 days ago 3
8,3 liter V10 and only 510BHP... 510 is what why friends 2,6 liters straight six puts out in his Volvo!!!!
RidersOfTheLostPark 3 days ago
@RidersOfTheLostPark "510 is what why friends 2,6 liters straight six puts out in his Volvo!!!"
And a question about "your friends volvo". How many pounds of boost does it run to do it, and on what kind of fuel.
SidewaysGts 3 days ago
jeremy clarkson is funny, i like his show, but sometimes he's a dick! i can understand euro cars but i dont think europeans understand american cars. granted we dont have alot of high performance cars like they do (because of the american attitude towards cars) american performance cars have always been about brute force. i just love all cars.
starrdogchamp1 4 days ago
@starrdogchamp1 i think his point is that american car makers are lazy they have such good spec on paper and some amazing engines and then the handling always lets it down. i mean what the point in making a performance car if your not going to do it properly? i take ur point though he is a knob at times haha.
motorola222 3 days ago
@motorola222 point taken. i think it might be a geographical thing also. mid section and southern section of the states are straight long roads with really not many turns. northern and eastern part of the states has twisty roads but.....too populated to enjoy it. yes american sports cars really dont follow through with execution of the potential of the car. i still love that "wanker"(i believe thats the right saying in the uk right)? and his show. lol
starrdogchamp1 3 days ago
I want to punch this bias ass hole in the face.
SharpStuff112 4 days ago
0:27-0:28 nice swirl marks....dumbass owner
bmstyle 4 days ago
this is why we love american muscle. because they're motherfuckin uncivilized. fuck civilized gay european cars, they're just boxes on wheels. American muscle is for MEN not pussies.
xXturbo86Xx 6 days ago
@xXturbo86Xx sounds like something a pussy would say
bmstyle 4 days ago
dodge viper srt10 acr is pretty good, even for european standards :P
lalas345 6 days ago
is clarkson really that good of a driver?
OriginalOrigins 1 week ago
what series and episode is this from?
xX4nd3rsonXx 1 week ago
you gotta love american muscle
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I'd still take the viper. The bimmer just looks a little light in the loafers next to the Dodge.
yadidimeanmaine 1 week ago
play driver san fransisco half of the cars dont turn.
jaggass 1 week ago
Would rather have seen the Viper against an M6. V10 vs. V10.
SharQus 1 week ago
we americans dont do turns, we steamroll through everything
onlyfreetastesbetter 1 week ago
@onlyfreetastesbetter exactly!
redreaper2020 1 week ago
You have to realize that American developers could really give a shit less about quality anyway. America is all about the money and fucking people over. Cheap this cheap that, so you can talk all the shit you want but we're really not trying so there's no point in being a dick. Jeremy just really tries to make himself feel better about himself.
mkmoloch 1 week ago
how can you compare a Viper to an Ariel Atom?
atvkid999 1 week ago
@atvkid999 FUN
musclecars392 1 week ago
an S65 would eat this car on a track. yes, a sedan.
MrBlpendleton 1 week ago
V10 8.4L developed from Lamborghini at the last 80's, with no traction control for real race car drivers... against a 3.2L crap for feeling civilized in congested traffic trying to make an impression in a teenage blonde? COME ON...
Compare a Viper with a Porsche, a Lamborghini, an Aston Martin, a REAL SUPERCAR... not a playboy refined nonsense...
MuerteQuerida 1 week ago
@MuerteQuerida
Umm, the Viper in this video is the 8.3L V10, not the 8.4L. Those are a difference of about 100hp. Also, the newer SRT10 Viper, with the 8.4L, has a MUCH greater handling ability than the older ones.
phattacorider 1 week ago
@MuerteQuerida mate. your precious muscle car with an 8.3L V10 had a dead heat with a 3.2L convertable. and you say that its a real race car. that racing car just got embarrassed by, how did you put it, "a 3.2L crap for feeling civilized in congested traffic trying to make an impression in a teenage blonde?"
BeamerE30318i 1 week ago
the old guy was no match for the stig
MrAjh420 1 week ago
propaganda, go look at CD lightning lap and you'll see the viper is faster than lambos and ferraris. this pos z4 will get smoked every time
rogerrothofficial 1 week ago
zr1 > viper...
zr1 smaller motor, AND more power and faster
Tatersalad0504 1 week ago
Jeremy is such a cunt
ChubbyBlumpkinz 1 week ago
i dont know about you guys but it does look like the viper has its nose out at the finish....just saying
coppins1225 1 week ago
waiting for my 392 Hemi Challenger...
BMan100 1 week ago
Like comparing a free runner to a sprinter.
noctony 1 week ago
dodge viper srt10 acr.. 650 hp v10. handling package. aero package. real thunder. bmw would not have a shot in hell
12valvepower4 1 week ago
@12valvepower4 so your adding a acr to race against the z4, your obviously braindead.
And for the rest crying that it was a pretty much dead race AND im european, i would still take the Viper over the z4...anyday. It´s amazing how americans shit their pants as soon as a nice car like the viper gets matched with some european and its an even race. Face it, Viper is a raw brute with the looks to go with it, z4 is just...meh. Get over it.
bamzan74 1 week ago
corvette zr1. or z06 is my car. big block thunder, handling , light weight. with a blower on a big block.. imagine the power.
12valvepower4 1 week ago
I love how retarded some Europeans are when it comes to American cars. I think its hilarious how they seriously take Clarksons opinion into account on every car. They really wanna suck his wee wee.
PattyManZ28 1 week ago
I like the end
the Corvette is my baby
salehscorpion13 1 week ago
Europeans don't get Americans and their cars. The reason the Viper is the way it is, is because Americans like that as much as cars that corner. Look at the Mustang and F-bodies. Neither of which are known for their handling (average to above average handling cars). Yet then we put out cars like the Corvette which can handle with some of the best cars in the world
apharot 1 week ago
Holy shit - 8,3 liter? Dodge, you're crazy!!! And because of that - I love you!
germanpuma 1 week ago
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germanpuma 1 week ago
just when everything is going well... IT KIILLS you!
amarrocks1231 1 week ago
wait, does he hate the american cars or kind of like them?
superdudeb1 1 week ago
I hope the new vipers reduce power and more refinement ...
DynastyQg9 1 week ago
Defeats the point
thereddog223 1 week ago
i want a corvette z06 427. with a build.. you get 427 power and v8 music. mmmm.
corvette
12valvepower4 1 week ago
against the...?
against the dick???
nadir619rm 1 week ago
Ugly, and it's a Dodge. PoS.
JagerFrostTroll 2 weeks ago
@JagerFrostTroll Beautiful, and it's to expensive for you. Asshole
stormercody 2 weeks ago
Put simply, I dont WANT a Z4M. I do WANT a Dodge Viper though. Don't care what Clarkson says, I disagree with him on so many cars. Fuck the Z4M!!
aslamkazi16 2 weeks ago
i would do really bad things for that car...
deadmanquickscoper 2 weeks ago
American cars are rubbishhhhhhhh...Caddilac CTS-V is the only one that deserves any sort of respect
MrMychan02 2 weeks ago
Man, there really hasn't been a bad BMW ///M car, they are all great.
MrMadpenguin 2 weeks ago
That car is pretty vulgar.
MrMadpenguin 2 weeks ago
But the BMW doesn't have side-exit exhaust....haha it's just not the same! I was surprised the BMW didn't win the race and I would still rather have the Viper. The roaring, crackling, lurching V10 is what makes the car so much fun, not the pinpoint handling and no-drama acceleration of the BMW. As far as having a good time when you drive, the Viper should win hands-down in my opinion. But that's just me. Haha
superdriver777 2 weeks ago
Mr. Clarkson... explain to me why o' why the Dodge Viper ACR holds the record at the Nurburgring for the 4th fastest all time car? Please, if you cant drive, dont.
Robbieifyoucan 2 weeks ago
@Robbieifyoucan
He was testing the SRT-10, not the ACR.
Tremendous difference between the two.
37robles 1 week ago
bullshit race. bullshit review.
ballickmoyler 2 weeks ago
Why suprised its 9 seconds slower than an atom? ITS A MUSCLE CAR!!!, sure brits realy do make the best and fastest and urm cheapest track cars that will eat anything round a twisty track but there is something special about american muscle admit it!
MotorsportMonkey 2 weeks ago
@MotorsportMonkey Could not have said it any better myself.
bamzan74 1 week ago
5:17 - not EUROPE's (?) finest hour? I thought this car was from Germany. Interesting how the "nazis" or "krauts" as we are still called today by the british become european best friends when it comes to BMW :D
JesusSaves9008 2 weeks ago
"they say its more civilized.... more civilized than what, a plane crash?"
todd5854 2 weeks ago 43
It's a competition between the Viper and the Z4, and the winner is.........Corvette. XD
FraAngelico729 2 weeks ago
"...a big, red, V-10 axe murderer. I do like it, though!" LMAO! XD
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I am confused by Clarkson and his repeated use of the initials B.M. for B.M.W. Maybe it doesn't mean the same thing there as it does here? However we are talking about the homeland of Thomas Crapper, the man who decided to name his toilet company after him and the rest is history.
jko3139 2 weeks ago
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jko3139 2 weeks ago
the viper won by a few inches O.o
because the stig was driving the bmw :P
117Burn 2 weeks ago
8:37 because American cars don't do turns, they do straightaways. We don't have roundabouts here on the highways, clarkson. That's why, mate, that's why.
redreaper2020 3 weeks ago 22
@redreaper2020 try ACR version... watch record lap in Nordschleife
RafaShokk 1 week ago
@redreaper2020 Unfortunately for that logic, the Viper ACR-X is the fastest production car on the Nurburgring coming in at 7 minutes and 2 seconds.
hydrOstem 1 week ago
@redreaper2020 Yeah, I really hate it when american made cars are among the top 5 on tracks as Nurburgring and such :)
SharQus 1 week ago
@redreaper2020 I guess corvette should stop winning road race championships... In the 80's our cars didn't turn. In the year 2012 you can bet your ass THEY ALL TURN. Here's a little American racing history lesson for you. COrvettes beat ferrari's, lambo's, aston martin, etc. /wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette_C5-R
EliteLX 1 week ago
@EliteLX my mother drives one of those. they're good cars.
redreaper2020 1 week ago
@EliteLX I think he's talking about factory cars -.- You can make anything go fast with enough money doing R&D for a race track. Big difference when comparing factory cars around a track factoring in things like price tag etc...
papapetad 6 days ago
@redreaper2020 And you don't have race tracks and drifting competitions and hill climbs and... you get the idea. No excuse not to make a car handle and stop better. That said there's a few american cars I really really like ^^. Top spot AC Cobra (roadster shelby thing), then vettes late 60's stingrays, zo6, zr1, then the svt cobra mustang, viper right after and finally the GT40...the original not that new pos. They'd be in my dream garage
papapetad 6 days ago
@redreaper2020 Oh and add to that list the almighty eleanor! Love that car too
papapetad 6 days ago
the new one will blow off his pants lol
cardude1992 3 weeks ago
You can tell the viper never even gets out of shape in the race... This is completely staged.
BETHELRobbie1 3 weeks ago 2
@BETHELRobbie1 Simply put, this guy hates american cars. He hates america for the most part. The only car I have seen him actually like is the z06 and he had alot of shit to say about it anyways.
DreamsMemories 2 weeks ago
@DreamsMemories well, there is a lot of bad things to say about it. granted, its a great performance car, but is made of some of the cheapest materials you can find.
VpY22 2 weeks ago
@BETHELRobbie1 You think they actually do anything for real? Lol
jharrypot2004 2 weeks ago
@BETHELRobbie1 It did understeer on that last corner at least, did you notice the front wheels strugling for grip?
CSzezerense 2 weeks ago
English people (top gear) have never reviewed a American car good. Props to Germans tho for sure!... But england by far makes the worst cars, and always says their car is the best. when there really not.
CSAMRB 3 weeks ago 2
@CSAMRB Mclaren will out run any american car in the market
GiveMeABloodyUser 3 weeks ago
At then end, he became Chinese
Narro2013 3 weeks ago
Rubbish handling terrible car... Well most american cars are terrible anyway....
samsite84 3 weeks ago
americans gonna hate!!
kobeissiR32 3 weeks ago
The 03 srt10 viper was running high 7s at the ring back in 2003. Trust me back then averaging 7.50-7.59 wasn't just kinda fast. It was blazing fast. The 2008 viper with an extra 90 hp took that number down to 7.20-7.30 which again is very very fast and the viper in acr form is now sitting at 7.12.13 around the ring and is the fastest regular production car in the world. I've had vette,nsx, rx7 and many others. On my third viper though. The speed handling and exoticness is very addicting
KILLEMALLstreetFILMS 3 weeks ago
@KILLEMALLstreetFILMS Where do you find a 2008 Viper running 7.20 at the ring??? I checked three sites and there's nothing of that sort.
edthetallguy 3 weeks ago
14attack. I owned a 99 viper and currently a 510 hp srt10 like in the vid. Your 96 was a amazing track car in the mid 90s but not so great today. The 03 and up srt10s on the other hand are track monsters. They have world class brakes and handling and have beaten the z06 and r8 on several heads up road course reviews . The days of viper subpar handling and brakes died in 2002. The srt10s changed all that. My 03 is currently 620 hp and has eiback lowering springs on nitro tires and it is superb
KILLEMALLstreetFILMS 3 weeks ago
wow,im fucking stupid.im looking for "kickwagon's" comment and its the 2nd one.
-_-
bubbarocks8888888888 3 weeks ago
I'm so glad Jeremy Clarkson, known for his world-class journalistic objectivity, showed a fair and completely unscripted race between a BMW and a Dodge. I know everyone watches races for their entertainment value but this is clearly a scientific experiment he decided to have recorded. If it were not for this, I wouldn't be able to tell which country deserves to exist more than another based on what two cars do on a race track in an entertainment show.
Karoth313 3 weeks ago
@Karoth313 Dude I'm not trying to start an argument, but you must not have watched the race close enough if you think this was a fair race. First off, any professional driver could've taken turns way better in the viper than this driver. Second, ever since the third gen SRTs have come to life, they have destroyed the track. I'm not denying that the Z4-M is a great car, I'm just saying that it doesn't compare to the Viper. It's a staged race
rydrag 3 weeks ago
@rydrag Clearly you know less than me about cars and racing in general. I suggest you watch the documentary series "Fast and the Furious" and then we can have a real man's discussion on driving technique.
Karoth313 3 weeks ago
@Karoth313 Again, notice how i said I'm not trying to start an argument. If you're gonna be rude, fine. You say I know less than you about cars and racing? Prove it. You have said nothing to support your claim. Also, I do love the "Fast And Furious" series but lets be honest, they are not the most realistic movies. If you want to have a discussion on driving technique then lets do it. When racing, it's more efficient to brake, then accelerate than drift. Do Le Mans cars drift? No.
rydrag 3 weeks ago
@Karoth313 Does any car that racing on Nurburgring drift? Also, no real race car driver would take a turn so wide. (Notice how I have addressed all of your points. If you wish do have a decent argument and/or discussion, I suggest you do the same)
rydrag 3 weeks ago
@rydrag I don't think you know who you're dealing with. I've gotten all gold trophies in Gran Turismos 1 AND 3 plus I've beaten Disney's Cars: Lightning McQueen's Desert Dash several times. I'm afraid you haven't backed up your credentials so I can't really take you seriously. Sorry, mate.
Karoth313 2 weeks ago
@Karoth313 ROFL!!! Either you're trolling or you're just a complete idiot. If you really think video games are YOUR credentials, then I pity you. Also ONCE AGAIN you have not addressed anything I said. Again either you're trolling or just stupid
rydrag 2 weeks ago
@rydrag I see by resorting the 'troll' card (the weakest card) you're admitting defeat. My monocle is still firmly secured in front of my eye. No sweat. I've won many internet arguments (I've got trophies from 2008 and 2010) and I will add this to my victory column.
Karoth313 2 weeks ago
Does anyone here know that the Viper's stopping power is one of the best in the world? and it has a 50/50 weight distribution?
BTW I have noticed that Clarkson does that not only to American cars, but to Porsches too, why? he simply hates them!!
bttawfiq 3 weeks ago
@bttawfiq That viper in the video has about 53/47 weight distribution and it does not have the best stopping power...come on its a big fucking crude american powerwagon theres no finesse to it. in a way its very nice to have a big fucking powerfull rear wheel drive to play with but in the other hand you have no fucking handling.
HellSoldyr 3 weeks ago
@HellSoldyr The Viper 2003-up has indeed very powerful brakes, look it up.
As for the handling, all professional drivers commend the Viper as a great track car, so why are you so sure it has no handling? because Jeremy Clarkson said so? the Viper has to be driven professionally to take advantage of it's capability, this is not the case with other supercars such as the Gallardo LP560 or the Nissan GTR
bttawfiq 3 weeks ago
@bttawfiq yup the 2003 Viper was the first production car motortrend tested to break the 100ft distance from 60-0 mph.And this test with the Z4M is such bullshit. If the fatass guy behind the Viper could drive the thing it wouldn't even have been a close race.
akerr84 2 weeks ago
Whoever is driving the Viper is really crappy. Those wide lines aren't going to get you anywhere in a race.
Rogers1977 3 weeks ago
@Rogers1977
Ever hear of f=ma
mrstormuk 3 weeks ago
I just finished watching this entire show The Good, The Bad, The Ugly. It is almost sickening how biased and just plain ignorant he is while hosting that video. Worse yet, people actually gather information from him and think it's concrete stuff. It's no wonder most people can't stand Americans and their products if they're gullable enough to buy into this.
kickwagon 3 weeks ago
Viper wins...
volvo242turbo 3 weeks ago
Jeremy- "The Viper is AWESOME, but I hate it."
jdm1066 3 weeks ago
if i could ever see that guy in person i would get his autograph then kick his ass because he thinks Europe is the shit were all the shit u little fag now get over it haha
SirNuchAlex28 3 weeks ago
1500 kgs + 8.3 L + 510HP =peace of shit
xakervu 4 weeks ago
@xakervu isnt it 600hp?
bismillahmashallah 4 weeks ago
Wow he should be a drifter xD
TheLuggnut 1 month ago
Hahaha moon out of orbit
majidm87 1 month ago
Atleast he said the Corvette was good, because it is, its takes dumbs on european sports cars.
Fr3akGamers 1 month ago
of course it was staged, he british, theres no way he'll admit something american is better than something european, why do you think every time he reviews an american car he puts so much emphasis on the interior
Nogoalov02 1 month ago
so at the end...was staged or not?
roadman1823 1 month ago
No it was stage, look at official track times, the z4 m isn't close to the Viper coupe
ghhgyiufff 1 month ago
High drag coefficient, no world class suspension tuning, no where near 100hp per liter, lack of variable cam phasing, valve timing, variable air induction, lack of aluminum forged suspension components but it still gets you pussy though. I'd rather take a BMW M3 any day myself however.
KeepingModern 1 month ago
AMERICAN CARS SUCK.
fadomastunahunter 1 month ago
Odd ole Jeremy didn't buy a Zo6 or a Z4.
He bought a Viper.
dbuschhorn 1 month ago
I wonder if JC will ever outgrow his childish desire to imagine that "drifting = fast".
dbuschhorn 1 month ago
Not staged just shitty driver for the American car on purpose...
599xgtb 1 month ago
Dodge Viper is a piece of junk on whels, comment from an ex Viper GTS owner. thits is a redneck car to the bone, a loud picece of shit with lousy brakes and sudstandard suspension.
THIS THING EALY SUCKS!!!!!
gilbear111 1 month ago
Going round that corner was sick~
JusssMeee444 1 month ago
European car enthusiasts are just mad cause simple American cars beat their faggot computer driven cars lol
kickwagon 1 month ago
Acr viper...one of the finest street cars ever made...and compared to European cars...only 100k
SteeleJester 1 month ago
51 person did their coming out
Quebecgoldthabest 1 month ago
I believe the SRT10 holds the #4 spot on the Nür. Bested only by to Radicals and a Gumpert Apollo which are magnitudes of price more expensive. Just because we didn't kill a snow leopard and log an acre of rainforest to make the interior doesn't mean it's not good.
the934x4 1 month ago
@the934x4 The Viper ACR is 4th, not the SRT-10.
AnonymoussourceL0L 1 month ago
@kickwagon i totally agree that race was such bs viper was wide every time i call bs on that one
Peep18m 1 month ago
Its American...DUH!!!!
DellSmith21 1 month ago
how can they say this is more civilized? more civilized than what? a plan crash?
atnotthiolnoy1 1 month ago
..." a big red V10 axe murderer!...I do like it tho!"
IceColdGeico 1 month ago
I remember when I first watched this review. It was the turning point for me concerning Top Gear's credibility as far as reviewing cars. Every corner in that race the Viper took very wide. The Viper is routinely commended for its great handling. This race was staged.
kickwagon 1 month ago 16
@kickwagon i agree with you 100%
XchrismurphyX 1 month ago
@kickwagon Srry I'm french... what do you mean by staged
??
DUBARTIFY 1 month ago
@DUBARTIFY Staged, as in "set up", like the BMW was already determined to be the winner, hence the Viper driver taking every corner way wide.
kickwagon 3 weeks ago
@kickwagon okok
DUBARTIFY 3 weeks ago
@kickwagon Wow you are all grown up now and realized what tv show means. Congrats.
GrindMicro 1 month ago
@GrindMicro Jeremy is idiolized as a car guru. His opinion is highly respected, so you're saying his biased nonsense concerning American cars is okay cause it's just a TV show? Don't be stupid.
kickwagon 3 weeks ago
@kickwagon Mind you this isn't Top Gear.
dude2106 1 month ago 17
@dude2106 Regardless of the name of this show, Jeremy is a Top Gear host. He's reviewing these cars with the same approach he does with the cars on Top Gear, along with the other two hosts (James and Hammond I believe).
kickwagon 3 weeks ago
@kickwagon That might be true, but the fact of the matter is that Jeremy's approach in this show is NOT the same as the whole Top Gear show, nor the magazine.
You might think Jeremy's credibility is gone, but that is another thing.
dude2106 3 weeks ago
@dude2106 i have so much trouble finding the clarkson viper vid with a vette commercial at the end, but i always begin my search with top gear. what was this from??
PepperGnome12 1 week ago
@kickwagon Dear boy, you must have your head stuck in a garbage bin. If you were paying even a second's notice. This is not Top Gear. Its Jeremy's own show. Now that you know, get your head in that bin again.
aric0913 4 weeks ago
@aric0913 Dear douchbag, Jeremy reviews these cars in the same manner on Top Gear. Don't be an idiot.
kickwagon 3 weeks ago
@kickwagon if he's never driven the viper before and doesn't understand it's handling characteristics, it's done. but i'd expect someone new to the viper to understeer like a bitch. i agree with you, i don't think this is a real race. a true racing car driver would learn how to handle any sort of car relatively quickly. at least simply enough to guide it around a track faster than a car with -200hp. so it's not top gear? doesn't detract from the fact that the race is staged. you're all so smart.
SeanMS3 3 weeks ago
@SeanMS3 True. I now for a fact that some Beemers come with really sorted rubber as standard, could really be a case of the Viper not having as good a set of tires on? It should have won but the guy was sailing wide on a lot of the corners imo too.
Has to be tires :o/
NumeroUnoUberMoose 3 weeks ago
@kickwagon Sure it's not a fair race, it's set up for entertainment pourposes. Still, that does not make the Viper any less shit, it really is an awful car.
xGabicca 3 weeks ago
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aitcity 3 weeks ago
@kickwagon the viper has always been known for its raw power..not handling. you want a car that is great for handling then look up a GT-R now thats a fucking car with some nice handling.
HellSoldyr 3 weeks ago
you cant just hop into a viper and expect to be able to tame it, especially someone as bad at driving as jeremy. its not that kind of car, theres not even any traction control. i think the nurburgring time speaks for itself
HowYouSayOwned 1 month ago
The Z4, aka the poor man's Viper.
EugeneCamilleri 1 month ago
LOL america need 8.2L engine to make sport fast car in other side bmw hit the goal with only 3.2L engine what a diference
PoorIllyrian 1 month ago
@PoorIllyrian BMW does't make super cars, more like sport Coupes and Saloons.
The viper would be plenty fast with a 4 Liter V-6 since it's pretty light.
I think you're just upset that American engines are always torquier than European engines.
ysflightman 1 month ago
@ysflightman HAHAHAAHAH 4L is light 4L shows with how much fuel engine work LOLLL
PoorIllyrian 1 month ago
@PoorIllyrian Judging by how poor your english is, you didn't even understand my comment. Because what you just said doesn't make any sense in relation to what I said. I was talking about the Vipers weight, not the engine volume.
ysflightman 1 month ago
@ysflightman Go play with barbies :D :D cars aint ur best side
PoorIllyrian 1 month ago
@PoorIllyrian Not my best side? I own a 1979 Datsun 280ZX which I repair myself, and restored with 2 other friends. I also go out to my local track, BlackHawk Farms Raceway at least once per month.
I'm going to assume cars aren't YOUR best side, and neither is English.
ysflightman 1 month ago
@PoorIllyrian Dur! That was more like action entertainment for television than real racing. "America" didn't need an 8.2L to compete with a 3.2L forced induction car. Dodge CHOSE n/a over forced induction intentionally for the Viper because its concept is based on being a roadster. Any clue what a roadster is? It's a big engine with two seats and not much else. No bells/whistles or bling-bling. Can you imagine if they did use a turbo? Forced induction is not some kind of esoteric technology.
thybigballs 1 month ago
@thybigballs
Sorry to be a grammar nazi, but its N-A, not n/a. :)
Dasfunkehzeit 1 month ago
@Dasfunkehzeit "Its" indicates possessive. Try "it's" the next time you're being a grammar Nazi.
thybigballs 1 month ago
...against the?
TheBounceMaster 1 month ago
aerial atom!?!? of course not! nothing that else that is street legal will EVER beat that!
MarsuveezBlack 1 month ago
A Viper against a freak'n toy car? are you kidding me?
zecafureca 1 month ago