Tourdion

[Pharos1505]

Hai , I'm sorry the intrument isn't a bagpipe bis it is a hurdygurdy . You can hear that typical zje zje zje sound at the end of the track. Only the hurdy gurdy pruduces this sound, whith a little piece of wood under one of the strings.

[Stone1944]

where are the pics from?

[SkinnyGuy31]

Hey, if I'm not mistaken, I know a couple of the people at 0:54-1:03. Center guy is Christian Henry Tobler, a big name in the European martial arts community. Do you know them as well, or just took the image from their website or something?

(What's odd to me is 2:00-2:05 looks like CHT on the right, but it looks like they're wielding LARP weapons, which isn't what I would expect from the group. Perhaps it's just somebody else in a Churburg suit or maybe they use such weapons for fun.)

[TheNineLivez]

we sang choir to this song in school

[Petraphage]

Nice instrumental version...

It would be interesting to find a video of people actually DANCING this Tourdion.

[2nopainforcakes]

wow, great version

was this "popular music" at that times?

[TenshiChihuahua]

Playing this in school.

Oh the glockenspiel D:

[JonValkenberg]

Great! I wouldn't have thought that a non-vocal version could be that good!

[dreacul]

I bow with respect to you all peoples with great tastes!

[TommyLuthi]

RIDE! DIE ! SACRIFICE!

[hmAddicted]

Thank you for the video, but actually you could have written the name of the performers in description, so there's no need to parse all the comments. Also it would be interesting to get to know the source of the background pictures. I guess it's some of that reenactment festivals, but when and where did it take place? Thanks one more time.

[nicblouin]

Anyone have more bagpipes videos...I normally watch rock/techno...but bagpipes are just so awesome !!

[CoachG1000]

This was all the rage in the Summer of '86......1486....after that pesky Plague was under control.

[Boursiero]

French lyrics :)

|: Quand je bois du vin clairet, Ami tout tourne, tourne, tourne, tourne, Aussi désormais je bois Anjou ou Arbois, :|

|: Chantons et buvons, à ce flacon faisons la guerre, Chantons et buvons, les amis, buvons donc! :|

Quand je bois du vin clairet,

Ami tout tourne, tourne, tourne, tourne,

Aussi désormais je bois Anjou ou Arbois.

[AmiralSAS]

@Boursiero A ce flacon faisons la guerre !!!!

[Lorellennia]

amazing!

zu meinen oberstufenchorzeiten war das der renner =)

[YeOldeTune]

Amazing. Truly amazing.

[Apu007]

Einfach nur geil, die perfekte Musik um Wein und Met zu trinken.

[mayamayagirl]

ah sweet this is a great version. im going to use it on my History project :)

[Taevara1]

@mayamayagirl Good luck with the project! :-)

[ThomasRenneis]

Corvus Corax - Tourdion

[piersonic]

I heard many versions of Tourdion but this is magnificent ! Who interprets so well this music? Thank you for having posted it !

[piersonic]

I have already heard many versions of the "tourdion" but this one is terrible! I looked but I did not find who interpreted this one! I like the instrument which plays behind the bagpipe... Classic French!

[Taevara1]

@piersonic Hi,

Terrible? I hope you mean terrific!

The artists are called "Theatrum Instrumentorum" (Italian)

The title of the CD is "Dulces et Fortissimae"

New Tone Records

Barcode number: 8 012980 673329

I hope you can order it in a cd-store, good luck! : )

[piersonic]

@Taevara1 In french "terrible" also mean " formidable or extraordinary "... It can change everything in another language ! Still thank you!

[phr4nk3rd00d13]

@piersonic Yes, I'm sure you meant something along the lines of "terrific." I see you are a native French speaker! Cool! I looked up what "terrible" means in French, and it's somewhat of a false friend. In French, it can mean something negative or something good. In English, this is not the case. I hope I didn't come across as rude or mean! I love languages and linguistics. P.S. You may also like Corvus Corax's rendition of this same piece. I'm taking French in school this year; I'm excited. :D

[piersonic]

@phr4nk3rd00d13  Iam learning english seriously now...with youtube ! Fucking false friends ! I like the Corvus Corax rendition too,and i am playing now this tune with my french bagpipe. Good luck for your french lessons!

[phr4nk3rd00d13]

@piersonic You might also like "livemocha(.)com" ... it's a good website. it's free, too, unlike Rosetta Stone. Do you have any videos of you playing the bagpipe? I'm going to check out your channel... I love bagpipes... Thanks, by the way. :D

[piersonic]

@phr4nk3rd00d13 We are soon going to make a video for two bagpipes ...

[thierst1]

Je trouve cette version instrumentale très belle et j'aimerais savoir si vous connaissez une version mp3 de cette chanson et si oui comment pourrai-je me la procurer?.Merci à l'avance pour votre réponse.

[Taevara1]

@thierst1 Hi, there is not a mp3 version of this song, but there is another solution. I will write you a note about it later on. : -)

[piersonic]

@Taevara1 J'ai cherché , je ne trouve pas cette superbe version instrumentale ! Au secours ....Qui peut me renseigner ? Merci d'avance ...

[piersonic]

@Taevara1 Cette version instrumentale est superbe , mais impossible de la trouver ailleurs ! Au secours ...

[dasgilde]

WE HAVE SOME FAT KNIGHTS AT 2:14

[StringedStrumpet]

Trying to name all the instruments in this piece, as there are so many its quite a challenge. Starts off with some manner of shepherds pipes and perhaps a shawm? Sounds like some sackbuts and cornettos jfollowed then by a hurdygurdy making use of its trompette and drum. The last instrument is either a single soprano recorder or a consort of them, hard to tell. All of them so skillfully played to perfection. Was there a crumhorn?

[FilosofoDaCamera]

molto molto bello =)

[MysticRonin101]

Of what country in medieval times is this scenery?

[Taevara1]

@MysticRonin101 I don't know, alas I didn't take these photo's. I guess somewhere in Europe. : )

[neckreth]

@Taevara1 I think France could be a good guess

[rem5b]

@Taevara1

c'est Carcassonne , en France!

[rem5b]

@Taevara1

c'est la ville de Carcassonne en France!!!

[Taevara1]

@rem5b Merci beaucoup! : )

[Grimgor2a]

@MysticRonin101

Tourdion is a french song , France is the country where we can see more castle .

[werewurst]

@MysticRonin101

It is a variety of different epoches and countries. From 11th to 15th century. There are late germanic clothes and armour from England, Germany, Italy and France.

[XXMPZEC]

@MysticRonin101 Southern France..most likely

[Greencze]

alright, sorry then... but when somebody said that it was created in 15th century, i though.... oh nevermind :/

[frenchiecocorico1]

@Greencze Many people told absolute nonsense without any information on the subject. The simple fact to compare videos on the "Tourdion La Magdalena" by Pierre Attaingnant, 1530 could have give the right information as well as Wikipedia related article.

[Greencze]

the medieval is begining at 5th century and ending in 15th, so yes... this is still a medieval melody guys...

[frenchiecocorico1]

@Greencze Not at all this melody was published and certainly composed in 1530 (16° century) by Pierre Attaingnant in his first book of ayres for lute. This melody "La Magdalena" never existed previously anywhere in Europe. Moreover, its polyphonic style is typical from the french renaissance period. This facts are known for long time and can be certified by musical history books (including Wikipedia). SO IT'S A RENAISSANCE FRENCH MUSIC.

[frenchiecocorico1]

This is not a medieval song by an anonymous composer. This is a french guitar tune "Tourdion" by Pierre Attaingnant from "Premier livre de guinterne" (1529). Even the title is french. So it was composed during the renaissance era. The pictures weren't related to the music.

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 yes it's a song from the renaissance period BUT it isn't proofed that it's from Pierre Attaingnant, he was just the first who published it in that book, which is just a collection of common dances of that time...

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 Pierre Attaingnant was a publisher and a composer. It isn't proofed that he hasn't composed this Tourdion. But surely this melody didn't existed before he had published for the first time in 1529. So it couldn't be from around the year 1450 or you have to prove it. This is a pure invention of your own fantasy. Then it doesn't change the problem in anyway. This music is from the renaissance period and has no relationship with the medieval pictures of this video.

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 I totally agree! I never said, that the piece was composed in 1450... I just said, that Pierre Attaingnant published it (in 1529, i know...). Nobody knows if he was the composer! It isn't uncommon, that some artist steal music from other composers: especially at that time, because there wasn't such a copyright-system as in nower days.... And yes vid and music don't fit at all

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 Then none of the melodies contained in Pierre Attaingnant musical book were found in other previous sources. So all piece were new when they had been published.

All those facts seems to indicate Pierre Attaingnant was the only one composer of these melodies. But he hadn't ascribed autorship, So it's always difficult to know exactly the truth.

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 Wahoo! Now Pierre Attaingnant had stolen these melodies to others current composers. That's a very idiotic tales. I observe that you don't realize what would be the truth. Pierre Attaingnant was the first to published printed music in France. So because the process was new it would be the lutenists to bring him their compositions but in that case probably Pierre Attaingnant would noticed their names or they would be indicated in some current pupils manuscripts or in musical articles.

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 Stay cool! You never can be 100% sure about anything!!! That's live. Did you talk to him that time? I mean, i also think that he was the composer, but i just wan't remember that publishing doesn't meen composing fr sure... There nevertheless some sources that say: "Tourdion" by Anonymus... Now i could compare that peice with other compositions of him... But I don't think that i know much enough about his musicstyle to draw comclusions from that :D

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 I didn't assert about my own assumptions but of many music historian investigations specialy on Hélène Charnassé studies (specialist of the plucked instruments at National Center for Research Studies). As I told this "Tourdion" may not be allocate than a "16 th c french anonymous" because Attaingnant as printer didn't ascribed authorship. Nevertheless he was probably also the composer. But you assert fallacious theory when accusing Attaingnant stollen pieces from other composers.

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 I really think that u have much more knowledge about this topic and so on! And i need to say that i never wanted to attack the immunity of ur idol or hero or what ever. But my opinion is still, that nobody was there at that time, so nobody could know it exactly, nobody knows if it is maybe a variation of an old traditional tune (whic his also not unusual).... So stay calm and accept the usual way of scientific work....

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 Attaingnant is not my idol. My idol is historical truth and your opinion could never become at any time historical truth. When I said the melody of this Tourdion was known nowhere in France or in Europe previously Pierre Attaingnant published it, this is the result of music historical reseach. Why do you insist with an unbelievable tale that is the opposite of historical observations and why do you invent absolute nonsense? Your opinion is far to be "the usual way of scientific work".

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 You don't understand me! I have nearly the same opinion, i really have! I believe that pierre attaingnant wrote that piece and i don't tell tales (i did not do so, i think u missunderstand that most things i write :(...). I just want to remind that there is nowhere a 100% truth, especially in historical researches... Thats the point, there is NEVER a 100% truth in science... there are many examples And try to stay reliable!

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 Excuse me if I misunderstood you. But a personnal opinion could never replace historical researches and nobody could say its opinion is right because nobody was here at this time. History wasn't built like that. Evidently, history is not an absolute but an ongoing science and nobody could critisize it without a highest knowledge.

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 ah yes u got it!!!!!! That's what i mean :D. Nobody can be 100% sure,. Also my opinion about if he wroted it is: He is the composer! It's just that history isn't that easy to understand... It's important to remember that there is no 100% truth and who knows, maybe there was another composer and nobody reminds him, nobody knows...

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 It is what I wrote previously. For instance nobody could assert Pierre Attaingnant composed this Tourdion or not. What is sure the melody of this Tourdion didn't exist anywhere previously he printed it but historical researches SEEM to indicate he could be the composer.

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 fein hammers doch....

Seemes that we talked at cross-purposes^^

[frenchiecocorico1]

@HaH93 Mince alors çà c'est un comble= fein hammers doch...

Effectively it seems we talked at cross talked.

I'm very sorry

I saw on your channel that you play "german bagpipe". That's splendid. Here in France we have two big international festivals for bagpipe "Les interceltiques de Lorient" in Brittany and "Le festival des maitres sonneurs" at Saint Chartier in Auvergne. I wish you great pleasure with your instrument. I play myself classical organ.

[HaH93]

@frenchiecocorico1 efin nous sommes arriver^^

[StueyLestrange]

I've been in many reenactments, had my old helm bashed so hard it was stuck on my head.., kicked by a horse, pelted with rubber tipped arrows came very close to getting on the wrong end of a bollock dagger. but its a rush, i'm a Hospitaller, my ancestr was one also you think what your doing will always be different and special and it's a great way to learn also. i'd rather my end come while doing that than on some deathbed..in some hovel..in basildon LOL take a risk, enjoy the ride and learn.

[loppan109]

this video goes tho my favorit list ^^LOVE MEDIEVAL MUSIC A BIG FAN OF IT ^^^XD

[Blackbeast123]

Matrch of the swordmaster!!!!

[zzcoolfun]

its all fun and games until it becomes real.

[JVRottweil]

and then someone loses an eye

[Finwaell]

that goes for anything, you can as well spend your life behind a pc to be "safe" (and probably lose both eyes anyway that way :) )

[gorterk]

conosci la versione metal dei rhapsody of fire ?

[nocturnocultoinfame]

The March of Swordmaster

[SHEMELE]

2:01-2:07 looks like a musketter and a gendarmes fighting XD

[khayresister]

I LOVE THIS MUSIC!!!!!!!

[DrottningHel]

one of my favorite songs EVER

[kidrussian555]

very much like marching into battle music

[Fridabeekman]

That's the point x)

[decimaquinta69]

Ottimo

[Taevara1]

Grazie

[landsckenech]

This song is not medieval, it's a renaissance song, however it's so amazing.

[Wiligot]

Yeah,i agree,its renaissance melody,but somehow captures the spirit of Medieval times.

Just let's not forget that in some places of Europe in 1450'th those were still late Medieval times. :-)