drum lesson double bass playing

[dlOcOlb]

1:30 - 1:33

@tythornton_

[Mirozenx]

nice video, what snare is that and what heads do you have on it please? thanks

[adriandrum]

@Mirozenx thanks. the main snare (and the whole kit) is a Mapex Deep Forest limited edition - the drums are made the same as the Orion series but the material is Cherrywood - comes with 24k gold plater hardware, very unique kit - i actually ended up selling it a few years ago

[Mudvaynedrummer]

Can you comment on your throne height and height of the snare drum? I'm a tall guy and am trying to find the sweet spot

[adriandrum]

@Mudvaynedrummer I find most effective for throne height/leg position is to keep your legs bent just a little bit above a 90 degree angle - maybe about 95 or 100 degree angle. for snare height I find it's about the same - I set my arms at exactly a 90 degree angle, so that my forearms and perfectly horizontal, and set the snare height just maybe an inch below my arms/sticks, do there are never any accidental rim shots

[RaymundoBerrelleza]

im bout to go try this i been playing for 4 months but i got a double bass 4 days ago

[adriandrum]

@Midnight77Angel glad you found it helpful....i also played single bass for quite a while before i started double bass, so my left food was like a childs when i began

[TheBoaConstrictor95]

This is the first video I watch that actually explains how to solve my problems. Thanks dude. You have a very nice kit.

[adriandrum]

@TheBoaConstrictor95 thanks dude, glad you found this perspective helpful

[shekinabass]

amigo el sonido hace al baterista que sonido mas pesimo tienes saludos bro

[adriandrum]

@shekinabass gracias. tambores no son tan difíciles. Relájese y disfrute!

[shekinabass]

@adriandrum gracias bro solo era sujerencia

[Reezymoney]

Hell yeah. Thanks man I found this to be a very helpful video.

[adriandrum]

@Reezymoney cool! thanks for the support, i may make a few more of these kind of vids

[meatbeater1000]

everyone thinks there is a techniqe like a way u should play just like build up your sppedd like this guys siad

[DarthFuckingSpam]

Really helpful. Thanks. I think it's really important to start slowly and this video brings home the importance of not trying to instantly sound like Mike Portnoy.

[TheEmotifNinja]

ahead drumsticks!?!? i have the same ones

[FrozenSun416]

Very helpful video, thanks!

[BrekisRevenge]

This Video Helped alot, With Continuious, But I Have Troubles Doing things Like, Rast Beats, Switching From Single To Double Bass, In a single song. :) Great Excercises For Straight Doubles Though.

[xalalalala]

Tks for the tips! i'll keep practicing until i get it. But man the left arm right leg thing is really difficult... ;)

[xalalalala]

And what about continuous double bass play... is is me or is it really difficult to play? By the way this video is great and it helped a lot.

[adriandrum]

@xalalalala

continuous double bass play can be more "difficult" as it requires a more extended amount of time of unbroken focus - it is like stopping your thoughts (which is very important in drumming!) - it is easier to stop thinking for only a couple seconds, but when you have to focus for a longer period of time it becomes more difficult as you have a larger window of time for thoughts to come up and your focus to be unbroken. i suggest focusing on breathing only when you play.

[xalalalala]

Hey hey! Maybe i'll ask a stupid question but... i play with a yamaha dtxplorer at home just for fun but i really love double how double bass sounds like and i'm trying real hard to play it. But with this kit i'm using the hi hat pedal as a second bass and it just doesn't feel right as they are diferent. My question is: is it important to have the same kind of pedal for each foot so we get the same rebound?

[adriandrum]

@xalalalala

i did the same thing when i used to practice on a DTX at school - i prefer to have a double pedal so that the feeling of the pedals can be as close as possible, but in any case it is just muscle memory and your foot will adjust and adapt to whatever it is you are using if you use it over time - i suggest also checking if you're able to adjust your hi-hat pedal so that it is comfortable for you, if it is possible

[hiimtucker]

@xalalalala double bass pedals dont come separate lol. if you buy a double bass pedal...there are two peadals. no worries. the Tama Iron Cobra is an amazing double pedal

[SecretdwarfRS]

@xalalalala Haha I did exactly the same for about 5 months. The hi-hat pedal just doesn't have any rebound, and that's what you need in double bass playing. Yesterday I bought the Tama Iron Cobra Junior pedal, and I'm happy to have a working hi-hat again.

Cheers!

[NewYorkJets99]

Hey man, thanks so much! I'm 15 and have been playing for about a year and half. Double bass has been the thing that has probably pissed me off the most. I have tried similar exercises to yours, and now I'll try this one when I have the time. Thanks again!!!

[ReverendBjarkePlague]

what kinda pedal did you use?

[adriandrum]

@ReverendBjarkePlague Pearl Eliminator

I used to have an Iron Cobra but I switched - and regret it - like alot of pearl stuff, the eliminator is mostly hype, i found it 'slow and heavy', if i could have my iron cobra back i would

[LizardKing1324]

thank you very much for you insight on the proper double bass technique. i have had much more luck on the quest for double bass and i realize it is going to be a very long task and i must be patient

[adriandrum]

@LizardKing1324 yeah, like learning/developing anything, it is a process, but that doesn't imply that it is difficult or not fun people just tend to make it that way by getting ahead of themselves. the process of developing yourself can be quite fun, like being a kid again.

[LizardKing1324]

i seem to be having the same problem as a lot of other people who commented on the video. I got my DB pedal about a year ago and my left foot still sucks. im pretty sure my left pedal is much more difficult to hit and requires much more force to kick. I tried hitting the left pedal with my right (dominant) foot and still had trouble hitting a note. Are there any ways to adjust the left pedal to make it easier to kick? great video by the way it has greatly helped me

[adriandrum]

make sure your springs on both pedals are set to an equal tension and that they more or less look the same in how they are set up.

otherwise, be aware that if you're new to double pedal. your right foot will be much stronger than your left from all the time of only playing with your right foot and not your left.

glad you enjoyed the video. starting slowly with short patterns, and the playing around with different speeds is a cool way to work on your technique and muscle strength.

[mdavidification]

@LizardKing1324 Yes most pedals have a adjustment part for the left kicker youll need a drum key but yes it is possible same with the right

[jut21012]

hey thanks for this vid there isn't too many starting out double bass videos out there. what is your pedal set up?

[HeadbangersGalore]

very impressive, but i was wondering if you had any tips for adjustments on a DB? i play DB with the pedals as well, but i feel as though i have to exert much more force to kick my slave pedal than the one attached to my bass drum, but i also don't know if it's just cause i am right-handed and so my left foot is just naturally weaker. do you know of some adjustments that can be done? THANK YOU.

[adriandrum]

i use a double pedal and my left is also weaker from my right. this isnt so much 'natural' as it is simply years of me using my right foot more than my left, and so it is simply more developed and i have more control with my right. i played single pedal for about 5 years before i ever even tried double. you can always give the left side of your body more focus and attention to develop it, try simply playing for 3 months with only your left foot, your right wont diminish and the results will come

[HeadbangersGalore]

alright thank u so much sir

[theworldofrocknroll]

i have the exact same problem i have ben playing double bass for two years but am going no where my left leg gets tired really quick and can't keep up with my right i could probably do eighth notes at about 130 with my left but when i put my right foot in it fucks up big time and am getting annoyed is there different ways i could build up my left to match my right

[adriandrum]

go very slow and be very patient, because you have to remember your left foot is like a babies, it is new to playing drums - going slow and being patient will help you have a look at your technique too, and allow you to adjust and experiment with new and different your technique - i know this all seems plain and simply but you'd be surprised how much you start to really develop when you stop trying to hard to develop lol expectations can fuck with you, and everyone wants to be a DB wizard

[stephanie1234509]

great advice, thanks

=D. helped a lot

[jcrm05]

Thanks for the vid Mann!

[hyperguido]

nice vid, but the double bass rolls are in 32nd notes. isnt it better to play 16th?

[adriandrum]

well the notation is only really relevant to the tempo - for example playing 32nd notes at 100 bpm is the same as playing 16th notes at 200 bpm - if i do think of them at all, i tend to think of them in terms of 16 notes because alot of songs i play are between 180 and 220 bpm

[railfreek]

Excellent technique. It took me at least 3 months to be able to pl,ay a double base beat even mediocre. The group of 4, 5 etc is an excellent technique. I paid thousands for lessons all I had to do was go to u tube..... Dudes got quick feet.

[morganix007]

Hey dude I notice that when I use the double pedal, I have like more control on my left foot. I notice that I hit harder with the left foot than my right foot, but when it comes to play with each one individually, I play faster with my right foot. Would U know what is my problem there?

[adriandrum]

the different capabilities of your 2 feet are likely based on the experience and application you have had with the two - i find it very rare that both feet start out with equal attention paid to them (very rarely does one start off with a double kick, or needs one for that matter as beginner playing wont have that much bass drumming)

so i would just work on where one foot is weaker than another, and do exercises that will strengthen the weaker foot in those particular areas

[pardinmyswag]

i got the same crap too

its weird ass hell

[silasjones04]

Hey man, you were talking about closing your hi-hat to really here your bass drums. You have probably done this before, but if you really want to here your bass drums, close you hi-hats and turn your snare off. I started practicing like that and I couldn't believe the difference in the sound. If you haven't done that yet, then you should try it.

[adriandrum]

yeah definitely, sometimes i prefer snares off. danny carey from tool does this alot on his songs actually, thats the first place i noticed it in rock music.

its nice because it lets all the other toms resonate freely as they are originally intended to sound, without any extra buzz

now all those clever drums techs at the big drum companies need to invent a snare that doesnt do that lol

[silasjones04]

Yea, I know. I listen to tool all the time. Danny Carey is badass. George Kollias is my favorite right now. Yea, I love the way the drums sound with the snare off. Definitely man, I wish they would invent a snare like that. lol

[sashayjoshy23]

hey!i cant get my doble pedal to work right!does it has to be tight or loose? and is the heel suposed to be down?pleas someone help me!?thanks!

[adriandrum]

play around with different tensions and see what supports you - there is no right or wrong technique, there are different techniques and some you may find more effective than others - i havent done any videos on technique and its a dificult thing to explain with words only - check out some of the vids online of different techniques and try some, and see what works for you

[SpaceCowboy617]

Make sure tension is not mega tight but a bit tight and make sure your beaters are 4 inches away from the bass drum and play heels down for a year before playing heel up and use a metronome

[hyperguido]

is that really a good way to practise? it sounds pretty serious. im right so left is a little weaker so heels up and down are harder for my left feet

[fordV84wheeler13]

thats how i practice! i count by 4s

[DrummingMofo]

im pretty good with Double Bass, but my left foot pedal has always been uneven, not tensioned properly, and now my left foot is fucked, how do i get it back to normal?

[TheWezel1995]

Are you shure both pedals are very loos?

(sry fr bad english i'm dutch)...

[DrummingMofo]

my left pedal is.... my right one is perfect, i think its just the pedal itself

[adriandrum]

if both pedals are tensioned the same, you shouldnt have a problem - alot of players have more difficulty with their left than their right, may need some extra attention

[CodyGrey]

Is that a Gretsch kit?

[adriandrum]

no, mapex deep forest cherry wood. it was a nice kit, limited edition 6 ply cherry wood (same construction as the Orion basically) with gold plated hardware - sold that kit about a year ago though and about to move on to a new drumset...

[typan1995]

this is very cool

[samyiverson]

whats that about bpm?

[adriandrum]

im not sure if i understand your question, can you rephrase?

[samyiverson]

whats BPM ?

[adriandrum]

bpm stands for Beats Per Minute - im not using a metronome in this video so the bpm are not measured - you can use bpm as a measuring tool if you have a specific reason to take measurement, otherwise i dont consider measuring your bpm a necessity in practicing/development

[samyiverson]

thnx dude this video help me so much.. to use the double pedal we have to practice.. thats it :) thanks man

[TheWezel1995]

Beats p. Minutes

[libertycaps666]

awesome cheers dude was big help

[xJUNNiEx]

"i do recommend going both ways" lol good instructional video (not sarcasm)

[Chase911007]

haha he starts getting in to it at 5:10

[raptercollins555]

please reply to this and help me someone, ive played double bass for 2 years, for two years I have played medium speed, like lamb of god type of speed, I have worked and worked on it, but I have reached about 110 bpm speed and THAT IS IT I can NOT get any faster, i have tryed but my feet just wont do it, can some one help me like I said, I have played double bass for 2 years and even worked with metronome

[adriandrum]

im sorry, im currently unable to make any more drumming videos to focus in on technique, but there are some great videos showing leg movement on youtube - one thing worth considering though, is to let go of the need, urge and self created pressure to go faster - you may actually find more natural, effective development if you simply play and trust your body to do what it needs to and adapt - dont think/focus on it too much

[viperabs]

You haven't tried long enough. 110bpm doing what pace? I've played drums for a year and a half, and I can do 230bpm on the quarter note, with sixteenth notes on feet. Message me if you wanna talk more about it.

[suyash92toolfan]

wow man how did u manage that? iv been playin double bass for a year and a half as well and im only on 130 bpm...can u plz gimme some tips?

[KarlLeipzig]

can you play faster on the ground ? (with your feets just taping the floor)

[ca2per369]

you mean heel down???

[KarlLeipzig]

i mean on the floor without a basspadal

[ca2per369]

ooh ok..i understand you now...he probably can....i can so i bet he can

[viperabs]

There's no "wow" about it. If anybody sits at a kit with a metronome and just does double bass, they'll be fast within a short period of time. Hell I have videos showing me playing. Its nothing too special. Find a song that you can just barely keep up with all the way through (on the feet, of course), then play it until you're comfortable. Find a new song that you can barely keep up with.....etc etc

[WhipthehorsesEyes]

i would focus on your weaker side. you need them both strong for balance. don't focus just on speed, you won't get it without two strong legs. try some RRLR LLRL, or RRLRL LLRLR type hand exercises with your feet. playing good double bass goes deeper than just legs. i recommend the book 4-way Coordination, and the Encyclopedia of double bass drumming. Also, Joe Morello's Master Studies, but use your feet too. A year isn't that long, it's hard work.

Hope this helps.

[suyash92toolfan]

thanks alot man....ill be sure to keep an eye out for those books and will start those exercises today...im sure ur techniques will help...thank u very much

[alexaxxem]

it is very important that you "push" nothing easy ever comes to it. just push harder and find your fastest speed, try and play at that speed for 30 seconds every day at least solid, then build up to 60, then 90 if your pro.  but just push your feet faster, change pedal settings, maybe tighter springs, or further distance, work on beater distance, seems you reached hypertrophy in your playing, so change it up a bit, best way for improvment, is change

[EAaltv]

nice dude, i can play 4 strokes of 180 bpm speed. but i can't play 180 bpm continunsly. anyways thanks i'll go practise now

[adriandrum]

roughly 30 dollars canadian is what they cost me, if my memory serves me correctly....they will outlast several pairs of wooden sticks and stay solid for a long time, so they are worth the price - also their weight and size are quite evenly/perfectly matched unlike many wooden sticks - although wood sticks are awesome for their own qualities too

[adriandrum]

i believe those were the joey jordison sticks - for such small sticks they're quite dense and heavy - cool for metal drumming and anything that requires, loud, clearly defined strokes - they fall like hammers lol

[joshwinz]

Yeah they do. They were my first drum sticks and I grew out of them. I switch to Lars Ulrich Signature.

[IIxMCGOWANxII]

Buce vid

[nextyearshero]

i read a massive book on double bass playing and your video helped me so much more, 5 stars, legend :)

[TotalRandomRequest]

Good words!! Very wise!

[DrumCoalitionWithWar]

your bass drum sounds really high tune it down

good video

[anderl22]

i think its easyer to play faster with a tough drumhead xD

[DrumCoalitionWithWar]

ur cool

[slayer00911]

dude you are sick

how long have you been drumming?

[meckertyt]

This is good stuff. You're a great teacher-in-the-making!

[NettoCasanova]

Good video! Nice way to organize a double bass study. Thanks for sharing!

[ANTHONY11794]

thanks man :)

[knightboy77]

thanks