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  • For 1 this should be called "An Archeological discovery, with speculations of the Garden of Eden"..not "The Real Garden of Eden"..and God did things in ways that they would not make sense so man can't boast and say that they figured it out..and I realy don't understand why it is so hard for people to believe in One True God! Creator! but have no problem believing in "gods"..if one of these Archeologists were to actually feel the Holy Spirit fill them even just once they wouldn't doubt God!..

  • ^_^ she tried to used her thoughts to prove GOD's. The furthest she could go is 2500 years ago :) For fame, this is so far a women can go

  • It does say "Tyrus" in the Ezekiel 28 Chapter... am not seeing Tyre. If one would care to study what is being said?... Tyrus is a similtude for a created being. Tyre is a place. Just a thought.

  • Ok, from this programme I have taken it as. 1. there is no creator God, 2 Adam lived after the period of King David. as a historian presenting this she mentions it was 2500 years ago, but does not present any evidence to back it up, only gives a theory. If Adam was a banished King of Jerusalem, does this mean he became the king of Tyre?. if she is a Jew or Israelite how can she prove it if Israel history is Myths. Hebrews/Israelites & Jews don't exist either. Their identity is made up.

  • i don't like this woman.i never do that really.Just not like someone(mistrust-on guard).But something seems off.4:43.

    not watching the rest.

  • @Matthew1944 I post what I want to post, you don't like it,I'm not losing any sleep over it. Your need for attention with a page and more of comments speaks well enough.Post your own videos blowhard or leave a few commments then leave it at that. Your nothing but a fool with nothing to say to me,so don't bother replying back, I'm not interested in anything you feel need to post. Thank You. You jerks that flood religous videos,with page after page of your dribble.Please grow up.

  • @liellibg relax man, please don't be a hater. With only 481 characters allowed it's hard for any in depth conversation. We should not let it degenerate with name calling like "jerks, fools and dribble" Let's keep it civil. Im sure God would prefer that

  • I want a role in her sacred garden

  • wow some of these comments!?! I have to ask myself, what bible are these people reading and what kinda drugs are they on..... wow, incredible!

  • i wanna eat her apple

  • Did God send her to make this doc? I think I will pray and ask Him myself.

  • Satan will speak through anyone who lets him.... this seems very simular to the garden scene,where the enemy through intellectual articulation gets man to question God's authority...thus falling.smh.... Jer.17:5 Thus saith the Lord;Cursed be the man that trusteth in man,and maketh flesh his arm,and whose heart departeth from the Lord.

  • @eboburn You, as a Christian, are under a new covenant. Jeremiah is an old covenant book that does not apply to you.

  • @ Did you miss the parts written were Jesus was sleeping,cast out demons,healed the sick,the cripple,the blind,the weak in spirit. Please tell me who on earth, can grow one inch taller,or make one hair gray on their head, by only speaking it? Only one, Jesus Christ God in the flesh.

  • @liellibg Just like all the other pagan-god men.

  • If God needs to rest...are we sure it is "God"?

  • This broad is crazy! She need to get some where and sit down!

  • by the way the most confusing documental i.ve ever seen

  • this girl its full of crap nothing she said make sense :(

  • I liked it but she is only able to grasp the the 5th & 6th 1st & 2nd Temple day periods.Noah is the 4th day period, Adam the 3rd. Jesus being of the 6th day cast out as was Adam. On the 7th Jesus God rested in death in Heaven he awoke on the 3rd day. As you can see the creation story goes all the way up the generations of man into today. I go prepare a place for you Gods creation is not yet done.Gen is a story within a story within a story.She's also missing Eve & fallen ones lusting each other

  • ARCADIA in Pelloponisos Greece was the Paradise,and Phoroneus,the father of Pelasgus was the first real Man!!

  • The Garden is also sybolic of the womb a holy place where the soul comes from Gods seed holy river and is bond to the flesh made of the elements of earth. While in the womb we are nutured cared for,then cast out, the water breaks we born into a new dimension take our fist breath of air into life on earth. Jesus also said we must also be born back into Heaven.

  • @durwinpocha I've read the bible many years, I also see pre adamic periods. Most don't understand that the garden stoy is the destruction of what at one time was paradice. Just as God put Noah in the ark,he placed the man in the garden. When he went in it was paradice but walked out into thorns & thistles. Noah went into the ark and came out into a completly different world than before. Moses stumbled upon what at one time was the east gate of the Garden,God's Holy Place of gathering,Holy Ground

  • from the sumarian tablets the Garden of Eden location is the pyramids of giza built in a time before man and still existing at the time of the first man Adam, a man who went to Hell and stayed there until Jesus Christ carried him into heaven.

  • Thanks for putting the whole episode on without the need to change every 10 mins or so. This is a great idea. Real universities have taught how professional bible scholars show that the Eden story was aetiological myth about origins of suffering for hundred (s?) of years, but this is a refreshing new take from a proper bible scholar at a real university. To anybody with university education in the Old Testament, this episode is sound, if not proven, reasoning. Excellent work.

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  • Wow sexy anchor

  • The story is about the first sin... Why we are born in sin today... Why sacrifice was part of the Old Testament and later why God sent his son to be killed. This WAS NOT a story about who did what and who gets more blame.

  • @BMLafhameyer Jews, whose book the "OT" is, don't and never have been believed the concept of being born in sin. Who, EXACTLY died on that cross? If it was Jesus-the-god, then how can God die? If it was only Jesus-the-human, then all Christians have in the death of Jesus is a human sacrifice.

    And what, EXACTLY does God say about human sacrifice in the original Jewish "bible"?  In Deuteronomy, God calls Human sacrifice something that He hates, and an abomination to Him!:

  • @Matthew1944 I'm not speaking as a Jew, but a Christian... and we do believe that all people are born in sin. Not going to give you a Bible lesson. Research this on your own. As far as Christ on the cross... In the Old Testament, God himself orders a child's sacrifice to test the faith of a man... God sacrificed his own son, so that we could be saved... which is also why we don't make sacrifices in blood anymore. We are talking about two totally different interpretations...

  • @BMLafhameyer God sacrificed his own son, so that we could be saved... which is also why we don't make sacrifices in blood anymore. We are talking about two totally different interpretations...

    Yes that is what Christianity thinks but then Christianity is pagan-based.

  • @Matthew1944 if "Jesus lives" how can he have been sacrificed?

  • @leffehoegaarden He doesn't live. He died and remains dead. It's the man-god Jesus of Paul's mythology that lives in people's minds.

  • @Matthew1944 sorry, that question was directed to someone else. nice to see this video provoking a frenzied response. you know when the sweet spot has been hit by how loud and irrational they become.

  • @leffehoegaarden I kind of tend toward more civil conversations. Unfortunately the frenzy, name calling and arrogance is far more common Takes the interest right out of even bothering to post.

  • @Matthew1944 lol... aaaaahh... I see how your point of view is based now as well.. Explains a lot. lol

  • To all Feminists, as whom it seems this video was made for... Women were never accused of being at fault for the fall of Adam an Eve... Another miss quote by the english arab girl.. lol BOTH Adam and EVE were thrown out of the Garden... (Out of God's presence) Because instead of doing the one thing God asked of them, they were corrupted by the Devil... BOTH...

  • @BMLafhameyer READ YOUR BIBLE. it was eves fault and she was punished for it with the pain of childbirth. Look it up and stop bending the bible, believe it or drop it but don't bend it.

  • @leffehoegaarden LOL... Are you kidding me with this? I'm not bending the Bible.. Are you like five years old? They were both punished for the act of eating from the tree of knowledge. And yes, she was given the pains of child birth. Stand for something a bit more substantial then what you think I'm saying....

  • @BMLafhameyer Re-read your bible BML - They were thrown out of the garden to prevent them from eating from the tree of eternal life.

  • @Matthew1944 LOL... ok.... Again, not up to teaching someone about the Bible, but it seems as though you are the one that should really get in there and read the Bible. I mean just roll the sleeves up and spend some time on it. They were thrown out of the garden of Eden, sir, for eating of the tree of knowlege. Period.... Thanks for playing.

  • @BMLafhameyer Genesis 3:22 the LORD God said: 'Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil; and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.' 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed at the east of the garden of Eden the cherubim, and the flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way to the tree of life.

  • @Matthew1944 Very good!! I like the enthusiasm!! lol Now... this among a few things were aaaaall part of the punishment of the first sin. Keep going!!

  • @BMLafhameyer Let me help... After the list of things that were set into motion because of the first sin, God says "Because You have listened to your wife, and have eaten from the Tree about which I commanded you, saying 'you shall not eat from it'." ... Very important part that leaving out would be very convenient for you. Lucky I'm hear to help!! ;)

  • @BMLafhameyer Yeah, Mr. Phd, I'm so glad you were "hear" to help too.

  • @Matthew1944 aaaaand.. you are Welcome.. That wasnt so hard, was it?

  • I think the real Eden is to much for this lady to take... It's so funny how bad she wants to speak against the Bible. She miss quotes the Bible to seem more right about her own view. lol

  • lol... You can turn any story into whatever you want it to be if you try hard enough... lol She misses the whole point of the story and the origin of the story. It was written by people that believed in God... She almost argues with people because, "That's not what... I .... think it was!" The garden is meant to explain the basics of the beginning... Everyone that believes in the stories of the Bible believe this and was placed in the Bible for that reason! BUT not the Arab english girl

  • @BMLafhameyer If you have so little experience of life that you cannot detect the diference between a Greek and Arabic name I'm not surprised your views on the bible are similarly narrow. This woman is a highly respected biblical scholar, she has a Doctorate in the subject. You don't agree with her understanding of the bible? I'm sure we'll all get over it.

  • @leffehoegaarden Which bible? The original Tanakh in the original form or the edited, mistranslated and interpolated old testament?

  • @leffehoegaarden LoL... ok.. I'm not Greek or Arabic.. although I dated an Arabic Jew once... I'm not an expert in the sir names of others. This doesnt indicate my experience in life.. which giving your ability to write a legitimate argument, doesnt say much for yourself. lol Re-reading this post.. I was speaking about the miss givings of the "SCHOLAR". Not knocking her origin. lol Plus, I really dont care. Oh.. and biblical scholar of what?? Hoping the Bible is wrong?? lol

  • @BMLafhameyer Almost forgot... I have a PhD in biblical studies.. Crazy.. right? lol This Scholar, if you will, just brings up points she'd like to make.. which is mostly that the Bible is wrong. Then she goes about supporting that point doing the very thing everyone does when trying to prove of disprove the Bible. Not surprised by her or your thoughts on the matter.

  • @BMLafhameyer Every civilization, past and present, has a creation MYTH and each one is different. It was primitive man's way of explaining beginnings and their relationship to the world in general. Nice stories around a fire that today's more educated people are gullible enough to believe.

  • @Matthew1944 I'm highly educated. Thanks for playing.

  • @BMLafhameyer Why do the words "pin" and "balloon" come to mind?

  • @Matthew1944 You like popping balloons?? Thought I'd take a shot at it.... Let's do another!!!!!

  • @BMLafhameyer You're pretty arrogant and puffed up. Yes, balloons do come to mind.

  • @Matthew1944  Not at all... Just defending a point I put down in the "Comment on the Video" area of the page from people that want to belittle them because they themselves don't really understand. Arrogant?.. yes, but that comes from playing college football. Puffed up?.... Not usually.. I'm just poking fun at how serious people will get on "YouTube" Are you puffed up?

  • Real Israel is BLACK. Adam and Eve were BLACK and NOT white! Real Israel is still in captivity in the US/America. The captivity is almost over. We must not seek for the garden of Eden but work for each other and for God YHWH.

  • @dienaarvanYahuah LOL... Youre kidding... right?? People from that area and Israel wasn't black or white... they were more Arabic then either... lol Stop trying to make the Bible into a race war. Damn..... lol

  • @BMLafhameyer Jewish DNA shows their origins to be in the middle east - Persia and those regions. You are right - Arabic.

  • I can't believe someone helped to fund this show.

  • @74seeley I helped fund this program and I approve of it's message. (BBC is funded by the television licence fee due from all tv owners in Britain, which I proudly pay)

  • What a load of Rubbish and she should take this as a compliment !!

    I think this and I think that I believe this and I believe that, and God has preserved His Holy word for thousands of years and here comes Francesca throwing it all way everything based on her owns little mind assumption !! What happened to "Do not lean on your own understanding but TRUST in the LORD" ??????

    Bible scholar my DONKEY!!!

  • @TheJesusisLORDamen

    Amen to that all the way!!!!!

  • @TheJesusisLORDamen And exactly where does it say that a real biblical scholar has to be a believer or to take everything at face value, or cannot question the literal meanings of the Bible? Hmmm?

  • @TheJesusisLORDamen Don't be daft. Universities have been teaching most of what she says in the other episodes for decades. She hasn't said much new at all. You talk as if she is the first person to challenge a literalist interpretation of the bible. Bible scholars have been doing that for centuries - very successfully.

  • OK so I guess she never heard of Liliath which was Adams first wife. God made Adam and Liliath at the same time from the dust of the earth. They were equals. when Adam started to lay in submission to him Liliath rebelled and called out the name of God and this was forbidden. She was cast out and then God made Eve out of one of Adams ribs so she was of him and would be subservient to man!  Biblical Scholar my ass!

  • the figure she's talking about on the british museum is the hanging garden of babylon...

  • sorry to BBC

    

  • crap video

  • I must believed in the word of God in the bible than the Lady who doesn't know bible

  • Lots of conjecture with few facts. The subject matter is closer to a second-rate graduate thesis in religion than a BBC program.

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  • no it was ppl over the centuries and the council of nicea that decided what was kept in or took out of the holy bible

  • women will always try and misguide people, it was a women who gave adam the apple, dont get me wrong there are some outstanding women who know the path of God fine, but when I see women making these kind of docs its very annoying.

  • Here's a different take on the narrator's idea of the story of Eden as an allegory for the loss of Jerusalem. What if "Eve" was the king's wife who talked him into refusing to pay tribute, because some "snake" of a counselor "poisoned" her against the king? Just a thought...

  • All these human genetics are from two person ??? Unavailable

  • @sunilrafi1 The earliest man and woman we can trace through DNA evidence lived thousands of years apart. They weren't Adam and/or Eve.

  • one day.. I'm gonna marry that gal..

  • @REALITY2point0 goodluck... :)

  • 8:00 While the book of Genesis does not say"the serpent is Satan,"one who reads the whole of the Bible is left with no doubt concerning his identity.

    Genesis also doesn't say that "the seed of the woman" refers to Christ, yet what theologian does not take Genesis 3:15 to refer to how the devil inspired men to put Christ to death & how Christ rose victorious from the grave?

    Also, Rev. 12:9 & 20:2 have passages reading, "the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan"

  • The Catholic Church is a perversion of Biblical Christianity. Infant Baptism washes away the sins of a young child? These people cannot hold to the literal truth of the Bible, otherwise their man-made religion would have no basis.

  • I think she farted at 35:12.

  • she's the most beautiful women looking for the truth.

  • the garden of eden is not on planet earth its in another place in the universe where Our Lord God is living, adam & eve are being transported from paradise to planet earth for they have sinned fallen from the grace of god...

  • @81MIRAFLOR its not really stated but its assumed its earth as the earth has just been created.

    Also its stated many times about the earth.

  • This women is a lair and very subtle in the way she tells the story....Beware!!!

  • @14624 she's not a liar, she just thinks, doesn't take things at face value. It's a trait not seen in religious people these days, you know, thinking.

  • @antonymagic82 But there is a difference between 'thinking' and 'going crazy'. A lot of what she says here is so far off from conventional thinking that it will be difficult to accept. Another problem is that given that this is a documentary, she doesn't cite any sources or references other people saying similar things. It therefore seems like she is just coming up with a crazy idea based on what would seem to be a very weak foundation (i.e. the mere word 'garden').

  • @Viljarism Ah but who is to say what is crazy, and what is just deep thinking? Seriously: Christians believe in a talking snake, an invisible space daddy, they have an imaginary friend that they sing songs to, etc. I often find that the unconventional idea's are often the real ones. We as a human race live our day to day lives doing and accepting things which are actually misconceptions. The Christmas tree for example, was a Pagan decoration century's before Christianity.

  • @antonymagic82 CAN I GET AN AMEN????

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  • Just another BBC film attempting to discredit the bible and known tradition.

  • So if we still carry the original sin of adam and eve. What did Jesus die for. I thought it was for our sins? So shouldn't we be born sinless because of what he did? The sin was in the old testament, we are suppose to be living in the new. Wasn't Jesus's birth the beginning of the new testament? Didn't he say to disregard the old and begin with the new? For he is the new covenant?

  • @Avalon2580 well we cannot deny the sin in the world, and evil people as Hitler , or Stalin , or Paul Pot...etc.Jesus died for our sin, it doesn't mean that we are sinless now...but those who believe in Him are forgiven.Because Jesus is the perfect sinless substitute for those who accept Him as a Substitute.

  • this video is all about what you think, your view (talking about the presenter) .The Bible is true, God is true & He does not lie, & no matter what you think, your thoughts don't change the truth. the secrets of the Kingdom are revealed to the Righteous, not atheists who Dis-Honor God.

  • Good try, but the story is an allegory, and you are far from it.

  • you can not find the garden of Eden, it was before the world wide flood.

  • bible schollar, she dont know her own bible. read Romans 5:12-21...

    12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

    19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

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