@PanteraFan6969 i know he used a kramer baretta 2 and a kramer jersey star? again kramer stagemaster and definately gibson les paul take ya pick i think he uses kramer a lot in the late eighties.
@inspectorcal i no he played a fender stratocaster cream colored but i can never fine one like he played the ones around me are cheap like 120 and not worth picking up
@PanteraFan6969 its hard to get a good one,,,you get what you pay for i suppose,,unless you got john norums money your probably looking at at least a grand upwards,,,,,,,ive had a few and most have been pigs to play,,so i ended up by building my own from parts to my specs,,mabe you could try doing that.good look with your ongoing search anyway.
I'm talking about the fact that Joey and the techs made "The Final Countdown" a "vocal" album, rather than the type of guitar-oriented album they had done on their first two releases. That was one reason John left the band. "Love Is Meant To Last Forever," for example, is essentially the song "The Final Countdown" redone as a guitar-oriented song. "Eternal Flame" would fit in perfectly on the first two (and best) Europe releases, but it has little in common with the poppy Europe of FC and later.
Well firsty, it wasnt Joey Tempest who made those "changes". If they were any changes to the songs they woud have been made by the record company, Sony. And these two are my favorite albums of all time, TFC and Total Control. Without the catchy tone of TFC Europe wouldnt have made it this big, without it they probably wouldnt be around today writing all their new stuff that is just simply the best new rock we can hear today.TFC coud been have been harder, but then rock history woud been changed.
Actually, after the recording was completed, the entire band went home, but Joey stayed with the techies and did the mixing. The 100% non-metal, bubble-gum sound may have been what the record company wanted, but it was Joey who made the changes. It's true that if Europe hadn't abandoned metal they wouldn't have been nearly as popular. And they did write some great pop songs from TFC on.
Best new rock? Wow. I'll take Symphony X or Blind Guardian or Pagan's Mind, etc., any day. I'm not into pop.
Ok, I know pretty much all there is to know about Europe and I have never heard that story. So im not putting much trust to it. Pop? Have you heard their newer albums from 2004 til now? It's Rock/Hard Rock, no way near pop?
Go back and read the interviews with John Norum from that time. He talked about it quite a few times.
Yes, I've heard their newer albums. And yes, they've moved away from the bubble-gum sound. I'm talking more about the TFC and Kee era. Recent releases go far too much for the current trendy (nu-metal) sound for my taste, and the songs are a bit generic (especially considering the intense impact that their first two releases had), but it's definitely an improvement having John Norum in the band.
Ok, ill do that. Well everyone has different opinions, thats life ;) I'd prefer Norum over Kee, though theyre both awesome guitarrists. Who didnt like the "cheesy-era" back then? ;) Woud rly like them to play some old songs from Total Control, Goran is still doing som cool stuff and he's still got his voice, what a koncert it woud be.
maybe ur right i forgot bout the genesis stuff...but u must consider too that we dnt knw that much about norums early songs...for me i am of course a fan of malmsteebn from begining...just wanted to discover more about norum..and if really got inspired by yngwie...or vice versa...they were close friends and swedish
They are close friends, grew up in the same country(And Sweden is f-ing small, i live here.), and they started playing about the same time, so i think that they both influences each other.
hey man btw i like the swedish bands they all have this melodic evil touch in guitar riffs..can u suggest me some other swedish bands to listen to...like malmsteen and john norum??
well, at first when i was searching for this song. i found that one with the bangels first. And since it was my homework to learn it (my teacher showed it to me and i thought it was really cool) i was kinda suprised;).
i don't really care if you don't believe me, because i don't know you, but John is my second cousin <3
glkgamerlol 4 weeks ago
I love this song!
TheKeessar 1 month ago
john the best
ROKER506 6 months ago
Been listening to him for years and it's been a while since I have listened to this song, and I obviously still love it!!
KillerNinja650R 8 months ago
Cool song.
DontShakeItUp 9 months ago
INTO ETERNAAAL FLAME
thefreezingmoon1 9 months ago
I from Poland...
...but I LOVE Swedish music and musicians :D They can rock !
KrystianHaynek 11 months ago 2
@KrystianHaynek They certainly can :D
clem070605 8 months ago
Happy Birthday to you John Norum, my guitar god.
valleschibel 1 year ago
I liked the Bangles version better....
kaindarkwind 1 year ago
aparte de tocar como los dioses,tenes una voz espectacular,genio descoses la guitarra,ninguno te iguala!!
aurora6702 1 year ago
killer album, great axe work through and through
nickstrix 1 year ago
One is burning in an eternal flame x)
stephj6 1 year ago
This is amazing! :-)
Timberke1 1 year ago
John Norum is the vocalist? Wow!
berengervsdago 1 year ago
@berengervsdago no, its goran
MaddBadgerr 1 year ago
John you're really one of the best.Ilike Goran at vocals too,I think he sticks better with you than with Malmsteen..
PatrickDiAngelo 1 year ago
Wow I like Goran alot better with Norum. I can hardly understand what he says when he sings with Yngwie. He's MUCH better with Norum!
instrumentalmind 1 year ago
pure awesomeness!!
LCNRC 1 year ago
Marty Friedman owns this guy. Yngwie invented this sound.
HaohmaruOfTheWind 1 year ago
@HaohmaruOfTheWind
Marty Friedman? Yngwie? Come on, they all have their own styles and way of playing. No way that Marty Friedman "owns" him. What's wrong with you?
hotrodswe 1 year ago
@hotrodswe You're so right!! And imo guitarplaying ain't a competition..it's just as you say different styles..Btw, great song :)
Bjorkoby 1 year ago
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Bjorkoby 1 year ago
John norum has played with eddie meduza and his so fucking great
TheACDCjonas 1 year ago
Norum and Goran are perfect partner!!
umakara55 1 year ago
i been looking for a guitar like his and cant fined it can some one help me
PanteraFan6969 1 year ago
@PanteraFan6969 i know he used a kramer baretta 2 and a kramer jersey star? again kramer stagemaster and definately gibson les paul take ya pick i think he uses kramer a lot in the late eighties.
inspectorcal 1 year ago
@inspectorcal i no he played a fender stratocaster cream colored but i can never fine one like he played the ones around me are cheap like 120 and not worth picking up
PanteraFan6969 1 year ago
@PanteraFan6969 its hard to get a good one,,,you get what you pay for i suppose,,unless you got john norums money your probably looking at at least a grand upwards,,,,,,,ive had a few and most have been pigs to play,,so i ended up by building my own from parts to my specs,,mabe you could try doing that.good look with your ongoing search anyway.
inspectorcal 1 year ago
awesome John Norum he is the truly best
aphasia1972 1 year ago
Got this one on LP. ;)
thefreezingmoon1 1 year ago
The hole album is great. John and Göran is god combination
jaktmark 1 year ago
Sounds like it could pass as the next pokemon intro.
iGalvanize 1 year ago
muy bueno,desconocia el talento vocal sumado a como toca la guitarra ,un verdadero genio!
aurora6702 2 years ago
The intro reminds me of power metal!
0HeAvEn1aNd2HeLl3 2 years ago
john har spelat ihop med eddie meduza
rosengren666 2 years ago
( ***** )John Norum
great guitarist
I leave in response to Walter Giardino
Ruben8979 2 years ago
Thanks.
I can't speak english very well so I don't know if you understand me very well =S
Is never John Norum the singer in his solo's album ?
I don't know if you understand ^^
manu6495 2 years ago
Hello manu6495! On this song the singer is Goran Edman. Great Singer!
catrevenger 2 years ago
Is John Norum the singer ?
Great Song =] !
manu6495 2 years ago
cool
armando268 2 years ago
This is what "The Final Countdown" album would have sounded like if Joey Tempest hadn't mixed out all of Norum's guitar work...
doghousepiiman 2 years ago
What the f are you talkin about?
Mannerson 2 years ago
I'm talking about the fact that Joey and the techs made "The Final Countdown" a "vocal" album, rather than the type of guitar-oriented album they had done on their first two releases. That was one reason John left the band. "Love Is Meant To Last Forever," for example, is essentially the song "The Final Countdown" redone as a guitar-oriented song. "Eternal Flame" would fit in perfectly on the first two (and best) Europe releases, but it has little in common with the poppy Europe of FC and later.
doghousepiiman 2 years ago
Well firsty, it wasnt Joey Tempest who made those "changes". If they were any changes to the songs they woud have been made by the record company, Sony. And these two are my favorite albums of all time, TFC and Total Control. Without the catchy tone of TFC Europe wouldnt have made it this big, without it they probably wouldnt be around today writing all their new stuff that is just simply the best new rock we can hear today.TFC coud been have been harder, but then rock history woud been changed.
Mannerson 2 years ago
Actually, after the recording was completed, the entire band went home, but Joey stayed with the techies and did the mixing. The 100% non-metal, bubble-gum sound may have been what the record company wanted, but it was Joey who made the changes. It's true that if Europe hadn't abandoned metal they wouldn't have been nearly as popular. And they did write some great pop songs from TFC on.
Best new rock? Wow. I'll take Symphony X or Blind Guardian or Pagan's Mind, etc., any day. I'm not into pop.
doghousepiiman 2 years ago
Ok, I know pretty much all there is to know about Europe and I have never heard that story. So im not putting much trust to it. Pop? Have you heard their newer albums from 2004 til now? It's Rock/Hard Rock, no way near pop?
Mannerson 2 years ago
Go back and read the interviews with John Norum from that time. He talked about it quite a few times.
Yes, I've heard their newer albums. And yes, they've moved away from the bubble-gum sound. I'm talking more about the TFC and Kee era. Recent releases go far too much for the current trendy (nu-metal) sound for my taste, and the songs are a bit generic (especially considering the intense impact that their first two releases had), but it's definitely an improvement having John Norum in the band.
doghousepiiman 2 years ago
Ok, ill do that. Well everyone has different opinions, thats life ;) I'd prefer Norum over Kee, though theyre both awesome guitarrists. Who didnt like the "cheesy-era" back then? ;) Woud rly like them to play some old songs from Total Control, Goran is still doing som cool stuff and he's still got his voice, what a koncert it woud be.
Mannerson 2 years ago
We definitely agree on that! (John + Goran)
doghousepiiman 2 years ago
this man is truly a guitar prodegy eternal flame he stole my riff
erokist 2 years ago
maybe ur right i forgot bout the genesis stuff...but u must consider too that we dnt knw that much about norums early songs...for me i am of course a fan of malmsteebn from begining...just wanted to discover more about norum..and if really got inspired by yngwie...or vice versa...they were close friends and swedish
malmsteen80 2 years ago
Norum and Goran it cant be better than this, I know its an old song from the 80's but its still Great got TC cd and its Great.
To be honest you cant get enough of listining to JN and GE.
tibord72 2 years ago
wt the fucllll
this song rockssss
i think malmsteen is a fan of john norum....i smell some same riffs but i think john norum the first who made these dark riffs first
malmsteen80 2 years ago
They are close friends, grew up in the same country(And Sweden is f-ing small, i live here.), and they started playing about the same time, so i think that they both influences each other.
notuern 2 years ago
am goin to sweden then to develop in guitar skills:=D
malmsteen80 2 years ago
hey man btw i like the swedish bands they all have this melodic evil touch in guitar riffs..can u suggest me some other swedish bands to listen to...like malmsteen and john norum??
malmsteen80 2 years ago
Yeas, Look up Talisman!
ovsing 2 years ago
I would say that Malmsteen invented the entire style - neoclasical heavy metal thus he was first to have invented such riffs
szymonwoj1 2 years ago
You are right...
kimelleman 2 years ago
Wow 5 stars man! Norum is heavier really amazing! never heard these songs! awesome!
Queenmaniac2008 2 years ago 2
excelente cancion, jamas crei que john norum tuviera canciones tan buenas
FHEWENDER123 2 years ago
Marcel Jacob is one helluva songwriter/bassplayer. Norum is god on guitar.
svenzia 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing! This is one of my most favorite songs from John Norum. Norum rules!!!
melodytokyo 3 years ago
i would love to c john and yngwie play on a g3 with satriani that would be a sick show.
cfv22 3 years ago 7
When I saw the title I thought that was a cover for the song of The Bangels.. Lol
diegoescolochog 3 years ago
well, at first when i was searching for this song. i found that one with the bangels first. And since it was my homework to learn it (my teacher showed it to me and i thought it was really cool) i was kinda suprised;).
InFlamesWeTrust888 3 years ago
Which kind of amp he got? And any of you know which tubes his heads own?? Thanks :)
stemean 3 years ago
Non so le valvole, ma l'ampli era una Plexi da 50 w :D
LorenzoMilone 3 years ago
John Norum Best guitar!!!!
RayofJustice 3 years ago 7
best record :)
gizmoofire 3 years ago 8
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Great song to thrash to!!!
DefLeppardVanHalen 3 years ago
Great song!
John Norum is the best!
067martin 4 years ago 17