The Canterbury Scene like Caravan is hard to understand at first. There are so many groups and albums out there it is unreal. You tube only has a small amount of this music posted. Yes or Pink Floyd is great, and Caravan,Gong and Soft Machine are something else. 100% mind melting. You will love it for years.
@tonkehar Canterbury is more reserved than other prog, but once you figure out what's going on, other groups seem a little garish. If you haven't discovered Hatfield and the North, National Health, Gilgamesh, and Egg, check them out.
@echopractic Love Hatfield and the North, National Heath, Gilgamesh and Egg anything prog . like Curved air, Camel, Pulsar, Clearlight, Gong. since 1972. So much prog out there to listen...it's awesome. I have them all on vinyl records.
It took me two years to really get in to this music.Then one day it hit me...wow! I want to turn ppl on to this group and this music. It's so great...you will love it!
@hiddenlion Yummy donuts with powered sugar. It takes awhile to get to center. The music will fill you mind with dreams of the Land of Grey and Pink because dreams are always ending far too soon. Try one today. It's called Caravan the sweetest song you will hear. Yummy!
@frankzappa92 It certainly SOUNDS a lot like it, but then riffs based on a I-bVII root movement were rather thick on the ground at the time (going back at least as far as The Kinks' "You Really Got Me"). The Soft Machine did their own version with "We Did It Again" in 1968. It's probably just as well that, as with harmonic progressions, small-scale melodic gestures can't be copyrighted!
What few people credit the bands to come out of the Wildeflowers with is SOUL. They weren't "soul bands," as such, but for that matter, weren't "prog," either, as there's no such term when they were first writing, performing, and eventually recording. Nor were they "fusion" bands, god help us, at least not until Soft Machine changed direction post-Robert. What they were were bands with broad, broad musical tastes who maintained room 4 Wyatt's and Richard Sinclair's aching, soulfulness.
not for the ignorant impatient sarcastic assholes who cant listent to a song that lasts more than 3 minutes thought id just say that cos some tossers thing all good songs end in 3 minutes fuck off tosser try an lisen open your senses shit wipe
An evocative, wintry, hauntingly beautiful piece.. A shame the live versions offer only a truncated version of the first movements, going back to the intro @ 3:48 instead of 5:19 on this album version.
One can play this again and again and never tire. A masterpiece indeed. Sinclair makes it his anthem. I think Zappa did Hot Rats after this. I am listening to it for the 1st time on head phones and the sax and base are soooo clear.
It's just dawned on me during listening and enjoying this, how much it reminds me of Frank Zappa's 'Gumbo Variations' or even 'Peaches en Regalia' from 'Hot Rats'. Dispite the influences; it's quality music nonetheless. Groovy!
@TheVidkid67 - Caravan are easily the most boring group from canterbury. Heck it sounds like they copied carol kings "i feel the earth move under my feet" which was a huge #1 hit at the same time (1971). Very simple and repetitive, only basic major+minor chords, little use of complexity harmonically. No real musicianship, just average players, nothing more. Soft Machine were the most adventurous interesting complex risk takers of canterbury, and all of prog and fusion for that matter.
@cocardeux - I think that the writer of the caravan is best comment must not like the defining elements of real canterbury much then, as caravan is easily the most accessable pop side of it, with only slight canterbury shadings. For him to dismiss egg,hatfield,softmach,nat.health,etc means he likes lite quaint english pop with shades of basic rock jamming instead of canterburys main defining elements of odd times, jazzier leanings, and experimental weirdness, all which caravan generally ignores
@progjazzfusion hello, I agree with you on the value and quality of soft machine, egg, hatfield, etc and I have been absorbed ( forgive the pun ) by these groups since late 60s and have seen them many times and know some personally, that doesnt make my opinion any more valid of course. ultimately its a matter of opinion, but caravan really excited me when I heard the 1st lp with its soft machineish psychedelic feel, and they became more accessible and pastoral, but have that quality and essence.
@puddypuss - thanks, yeah I bought the first caravan recently too, after being into all the other canterbury groups for a few decades now, just to give caravan another chance. I tried to get into it but its just too simple mellow repetitive pop, nothing much to grasp on to for me. I also had the caravan album with the man in a suit standing by a mirror, and liked only 1 song, so i dont know what else to get by these guys to give them another chance. any recommendations of them at their best?
@progjazzfusion I know what you mean in a way,and as I said before its ultimately a personal thing. I think caravan like most artists obey the law of creative entropy and by the 4th lp and departure of david sinclair they were going mainstreamish like most in 70s. I can only suggest 1st 2 and some sessions. to me at best theyve got that dreamy whimsical feel its happy coincidence if you like complexity egg soft machine etc combine it with the softer melodic side, and unfortunately compexity tbc.
@progjazzfusion can disappear up its own orifice.I remember mike ratledge saying once that soft machine would continue , but with different members, and I think they missed robert wyatt a lot. also, I would put caravan in the edward lear child like school of eccentricity with mont campbell in the more philosophical camp. as things went on it seemed many " prog " to use the hated put down word groups were into a kind of empty virtuosity. would recommend jade warrior , g f fitzgerald ,and piblokto
@progjazzfusion Yeh I mean, if it's not harmonically or rhythmically complex it's automatically crap. Stop being a music snob, some of Pink Floyd, King Crimso's music is made up "simple major and minor chords" and is still amazing.
Caravan with Richard Sinclair were too short-lived but at least they paved the way for Soft Machine and even bands like Traffic. Thanks for posting this.
Both Soft Machine and Traffic actually preceded Caravan, with both Soft Machine and Traffic releasing their debut albums in 1967, and Caravan releasing theirs' the following year.
Geoff Downes recently said Caravan was one of his favorites. So, I came here to see how Caravan sounds, since I had never heard of them.
It is as if Downes was pointing, showing to us where treasure was buried. This is musical treasure that I have discovered! Caravan is amazing. If I had a radio station I would play this song.
My fave piece of music ever, "dazzling" is a great description spencer261. I played soccer with them with a tin can after a gig in Penzance in "75 - we won hands down! Class act.
Outstanding! I had posted this on Facebook in three parts before, but now it's a hole in one (ha). Most of my friends don't like this kind of thing, but I keep ramming it down their throats anyway, in the vain hope that they might acquire some taste along the way.
This is The Most Monumental B-Side Ever and The Best of Caravan's body of work!
jonathanrobins558 2 days ago
MASTERPIECE ... One more from the 70's !!!
Marco33185 1 week ago
Excellent- I never get tired of hearing this or seeing the band perform it live.
blackfieldpain 1 week ago
16:01 - wow.
cobian2006 2 weeks ago
love the sound. i hear some Coltrane and Traffic.
mrd3frank3 3 weeks ago
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tonkehar 1 month ago
The Canterbury Scene like Caravan is hard to understand at first. There are so many groups and albums out there it is unreal. You tube only has a small amount of this music posted. Yes or Pink Floyd is great, and Caravan,Gong and Soft Machine are something else. 100% mind melting. You will love it for years.
tonkehar 1 month ago
@tonkehar I think yes are much more inventive than any canterbury.
thelilymoore 1 month ago
@tonkehar Canterbury is more reserved than other prog, but once you figure out what's going on, other groups seem a little garish. If you haven't discovered Hatfield and the North, National Health, Gilgamesh, and Egg, check them out.
echopractic 2 weeks ago
@echopractic Love Hatfield and the North, National Heath, Gilgamesh and Egg anything prog . like Curved air, Camel, Pulsar, Clearlight, Gong. since 1972. So much prog out there to listen...it's awesome. I have them all on vinyl records.
tonkehar 2 weeks ago
@tonkehar yes!
tonkehar 2 weeks ago
It took me two years to really get in to this music.Then one day it hit me...wow! I want to turn ppl on to this group and this music. It's so great...you will love it!
tonkehar 1 month ago
1 person doesn't know what the hell real music sounds like.
rfrakctured 1 month ago
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tonkehar 1 month ago
Canavan is like a jelly dounut. It takes a while to get to the center. One day it will just hit you....and then ....wow!...
tonkehar 1 month ago
@tonkehar Do you eat gargantuan jelly donuts or something?
hiddenlion 1 month ago
@hiddenlion Yummy donuts with powered sugar. It takes awhile to get to center. The music will fill you mind with dreams of the Land of Grey and Pink because dreams are always ending far too soon. Try one today. It's called Caravan the sweetest song you will hear. Yummy!
tonkehar 1 month ago
Rock progressif à son meilleur
MegaAndreNo 1 month ago
I went to the land of grey and pink. Its a nice place.
thelilymoore 1 month ago
@thelilymoore Dreams are always ending far too soon! In the land of grey and pink!
tonkehar 1 month ago
this track always makes me hungry...got the munchies...where's my kabab...transported to another dimension..
camphor210 2 months ago
Fantastico
pablobenitez1 2 months ago
That's a fucking masterpiece...but at 20.53 it really looks like sunshine of your love (cream)..is it just in my opinion??
frankzappa92 2 months ago
@frankzappa92 It certainly SOUNDS a lot like it, but then riffs based on a I-bVII root movement were rather thick on the ground at the time (going back at least as far as The Kinks' "You Really Got Me"). The Soft Machine did their own version with "We Did It Again" in 1968. It's probably just as well that, as with harmonic progressions, small-scale melodic gestures can't be copyrighted!
Fredigundis22 1 month ago
@Fredigundis22 Thanks a lot!
frankzappa92 1 month ago
What few people credit the bands to come out of the Wildeflowers with is SOUL. They weren't "soul bands," as such, but for that matter, weren't "prog," either, as there's no such term when they were first writing, performing, and eventually recording. Nor were they "fusion" bands, god help us, at least not until Soft Machine changed direction post-Robert. What they were were bands with broad, broad musical tastes who maintained room 4 Wyatt's and Richard Sinclair's aching, soulfulness.
dantean 2 months ago
@dantean Best comment I ever seen on Youtube !
Kalawaxisator 1 month ago
@Kalawaxisator Thank you.
dantean 1 month ago
love listening to this while i oil paint :)
PudoozaTheConquer 2 months ago
not for the ignorant impatient sarcastic assholes who cant listent to a song that lasts more than 3 minutes thought id just say that cos some tossers thing all good songs end in 3 minutes fuck off tosser try an lisen open your senses shit wipe
Kingboru31 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos 4
An evocative, wintry, hauntingly beautiful piece.. A shame the live versions offer only a truncated version of the first movements, going back to the intro @ 3:48 instead of 5:19 on this album version.
zismoura 3 months ago
One can play this again and again and never tire. A masterpiece indeed. Sinclair makes it his anthem. I think Zappa did Hot Rats after this. I am listening to it for the 1st time on head phones and the sax and base are soooo clear.
tobyruncorn2 3 months ago 3
class
puggo 4 months ago 4
wow...i'm stunned. this is killer. i wish i had known about these guys earlier.
adamfunk1234 4 months ago 2
this is wonderful.
blazkowicz1 4 months ago
It's just dawned on me during listening and enjoying this, how much it reminds me of Frank Zappa's 'Gumbo Variations' or even 'Peaches en Regalia' from 'Hot Rats'. Dispite the influences; it's quality music nonetheless. Groovy!
petermcintyre100 4 months ago
masterpeice... i before e except after c or fekin what
conanhayle 4 months ago
absolute masterpiece
conanhayle 4 months ago
Thanks for posting. Truely a classic!!
ylf54 4 months ago
Ahoy, all hippies on board
A masterpiece
Apis333 4 months ago
Oh my god, It's So good!
darkfakt 5 months ago
It's stuff like this that makes me wish it would last a lot longer than just twenty-two minutes.
CKru8789 5 months ago
I first heard this entire track in 1980 on the Friday Rock Show. Tommy Vance.
TheVidkid67 5 months ago
I have this on vinyl. Easily the best band to come out of Canterbury. The organ always reminded me of a Stylaphone lol.
TheVidkid67 5 months ago
@TheVidkid67 - Caravan are easily the most boring group from canterbury. Heck it sounds like they copied carol kings "i feel the earth move under my feet" which was a huge #1 hit at the same time (1971). Very simple and repetitive, only basic major+minor chords, little use of complexity harmonically. No real musicianship, just average players, nothing more. Soft Machine were the most adventurous interesting complex risk takers of canterbury, and all of prog and fusion for that matter.
progjazzfusion 4 months ago
@progjazzfusion yeah exacly... many people won't like what you wrote ;)
cocardeux 4 months ago
@cocardeux - I think that the writer of the caravan is best comment must not like the defining elements of real canterbury much then, as caravan is easily the most accessable pop side of it, with only slight canterbury shadings. For him to dismiss egg,hatfield,softmach,nat.health,etc means he likes lite quaint english pop with shades of basic rock jamming instead of canterburys main defining elements of odd times, jazzier leanings, and experimental weirdness, all which caravan generally ignores
progjazzfusion 4 months ago
@progjazzfusion hello, I agree with you on the value and quality of soft machine, egg, hatfield, etc and I have been absorbed ( forgive the pun ) by these groups since late 60s and have seen them many times and know some personally, that doesnt make my opinion any more valid of course. ultimately its a matter of opinion, but caravan really excited me when I heard the 1st lp with its soft machineish psychedelic feel, and they became more accessible and pastoral, but have that quality and essence.
puddypuss 4 months ago
@puddypuss - thanks, yeah I bought the first caravan recently too, after being into all the other canterbury groups for a few decades now, just to give caravan another chance. I tried to get into it but its just too simple mellow repetitive pop, nothing much to grasp on to for me. I also had the caravan album with the man in a suit standing by a mirror, and liked only 1 song, so i dont know what else to get by these guys to give them another chance. any recommendations of them at their best?
progjazzfusion 4 months ago
@progjazzfusion I know what you mean in a way,and as I said before its ultimately a personal thing. I think caravan like most artists obey the law of creative entropy and by the 4th lp and departure of david sinclair they were going mainstreamish like most in 70s. I can only suggest 1st 2 and some sessions. to me at best theyve got that dreamy whimsical feel its happy coincidence if you like complexity egg soft machine etc combine it with the softer melodic side, and unfortunately compexity tbc.
puddypuss 4 months ago
@progjazzfusion can disappear up its own orifice.I remember mike ratledge saying once that soft machine would continue , but with different members, and I think they missed robert wyatt a lot. also, I would put caravan in the edward lear child like school of eccentricity with mont campbell in the more philosophical camp. as things went on it seemed many " prog " to use the hated put down word groups were into a kind of empty virtuosity. would recommend jade warrior , g f fitzgerald ,and piblokto
puddypuss 4 months ago
@progjazzfusion Yeh I mean, if it's not harmonically or rhythmically complex it's automatically crap. Stop being a music snob, some of Pink Floyd, King Crimso's music is made up "simple major and minor chords" and is still amazing.
masterofscotland 3 months ago
@progjazzfusion BOLLOXS YOU WANKER
conanhayle 3 months ago
@conanhayle who said that .... not me
conanhayle 3 months ago
Maybe it might be the fork in the road: the commercial path and the non-commercial path. All my friends got lost and are still lost.
tonkehar 5 months ago
Caravan with Richard Sinclair were too short-lived but at least they paved the way for Soft Machine and even bands like Traffic. Thanks for posting this.
mikemckv 6 months ago
@mikemckv
Both Soft Machine and Traffic actually preceded Caravan, with both Soft Machine and Traffic releasing their debut albums in 1967, and Caravan releasing theirs' the following year.
rangergranger 6 months ago
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so quintessentially english-its wonderful!-todays corporate industry woudnt touch this with a bargepole..(more fool them).
wjb270 6 months ago
so quintessentially english-its wonderful-todays corporate industry woudnt touch this with a bargepole..(more fool them).
wjb270 6 months ago
raffa like it
raffaznp 6 months ago
How have I heard of Yes, Rush and King C but not of these until today!?
TheModCon 6 months ago
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tonkehar 5 months ago
I have NO idea why these guys aren't mentioned in the same breath as Yes and King Crimson. CLASSIC!
TheMaskedJohnson 6 months ago
Fantastic ! Thanks for posting
argi1968argi 6 months ago
Geoff Downes recently said Caravan was one of his favorites. So, I came here to see how Caravan sounds, since I had never heard of them.
It is as if Downes was pointing, showing to us where treasure was buried. This is musical treasure that I have discovered! Caravan is amazing. If I had a radio station I would play this song.
derbystardom 6 months ago
C'est un peu à l'eau de roses, mais on s'entend que c'est très bon
MegaAndreNo 7 months ago
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cocardeux 7 months ago
epic jam uploaded entirely
earthless1990 7 months ago
Superb - brings back great memories. What an amazing and under-rated piece of music.
dpm49831 8 months ago 23
My fave piece of music ever, "dazzling" is a great description spencer261. I played soccer with them with a tin can after a gig in Penzance in "75 - we won hands down! Class act.
spikerooney011 8 months ago
great music
GreekRocker00 8 months ago
Outstanding! I had posted this on Facebook in three parts before, but now it's a hole in one (ha). Most of my friends don't like this kind of thing, but I keep ramming it down their throats anyway, in the vain hope that they might acquire some taste along the way.
lucianisidro 9 months ago 5
I don't know how you managed to load the full 22:40 but I am glad. The suite in its entirity needs to be brought to the ears of many.
derekethomason 9 months ago 3
FANTASTICA!!!
pierluigivillaclub 1 year ago
An absolute masterpiece in its dazzling entirety.
spencer261 1 year ago 36