@supertrouper2 One program put the idea that Caligula added a sweetener called defrutum to his wine which was mixed in a lead bowl. His excessive drinking would have damaged his health, resulting in his near-death experience.
@paisabombom2133 Have actually watched and understood any of the stuff you say you've watched? Claudius is far from "retarded". He has a limp and he stammers, but he is highly intelligent.
Caligula was as bent as many Roman emperors from the get go but in fairness his worst atrocities occurred after he survived what may have been encephalitis, which can be the equivalent of putting a brain in microwave. Whatever the truth it can't detract from John Hurt's brilliant performance.
@deriter64 Another theory was that Caligula suffered lead poisoning due to a sweetener that was made in a lead bowl to retain the flavour and add to wine. Caligula drank a bit excessively and damaged his brain as a result. That and with the fact he was at Tiberius' mercy as he family died at the emperor's orders, he likely had a warped regard for human life in general.
@pirateking193 he was reminding caligula of what he was saying, just before caligula went off on a flight of fancy caused by his headache he had been saying that he "should of killed (tiberius) when he had the chance" for having lots of debts.
@Coleburg The one benefit of a proscription. Tiberius' stepfather Augustus knew that well when he was know as Octavian and did the same to anyone he and Antony believed murdered Caesar or sided with Brutus and Cassius.
Make a list of political opponents with great wealth. Label them as traitors, murderers, enemies of the state, etc. Forgo due process of the time. Kill them and anyone else you see fit. Compensate their wealth and leave their families impoverished.
Great series with outstanding performances by all. But for this segment, John Hurt pulls out all stops! His performance of this madman (Caligula has been labeled the "poster child" for sociopaths!) is just incredible.
7:07 ) Right about now, I would be thinking about packing my goat skin with a few clean loincloths to take with me as I did the bonny off to the 7 hills.
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HBO's Rome sucked. Unlike "I Claudius" it had too many historical mistakes, not that "I Claudius" hasnt. One is that Tiberius left the Empire with lots of money, not debts.
Both shows were modern interpretations of historical events. They took liberties, but the general themes still ring true. I really enjoyed both shows.
Finally, an opinion of reason. The purposes of both "Rome" and "I, Claudius" are to ENTERTAIN. They are based on historical events, not meant to be taken literally has history. Are some viewers really that credulous that everything they see must be literal and true?
@jonwiley True, especially for I Claudius. He was a moderate ruler but becomes more sympathetic figure if the other emperors are shown with such negative characteristics (likely exaggerated) and especially with Caligula. How can we emphasize with Claudius if we show Augustus' graceful rule, Tiberius stern focus on economics, Caligula's appeal to the common people and legions and Nero's love of theatre and arts to the Eastern provinces? Not as much I say.
In the Mayan and Aztec civilizations, serial killers were not identified as the deranged murderers we know them to be today; rather, they were viewed as being annointed by the gods. Thus, they were placed in positions of immense religious power, able to slaughter thousands to appease the Sun god. Unfortunately, a variation of this theme still exists. Just look at the religious cults that have been in the news because their leader ordered them to drink poisoned koolaid. These things still happen.
funny really, when you think about all the hideous things done throughout human history in the name of religion etc etc, and what we know today about schizophrenia etc etc (not wishing to tarnish all schizophrenics with the brush of tyrants!). Just makes me think.
Calligulla's psychotic.
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fishfulofdollars 1 year ago
I read somewhere that the Emperor Caligula actually suffered from a brain tumor.
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supertrouper2 1 year ago
@supertrouper2 One program put the idea that Caligula added a sweetener called defrutum to his wine which was mixed in a lead bowl. His excessive drinking would have damaged his health, resulting in his near-death experience.
3baxcb 1 year ago
did claudious have some mental illness cuz everytime i c in the movie caligula or any rome series and they always put a retarded guy as claudious
paisabombom2133 1 year ago
@paisabombom2133 Have actually watched and understood any of the stuff you say you've watched? Claudius is far from "retarded". He has a limp and he stammers, but he is highly intelligent.
womanofnoimportance 1 year ago
Caligula was as bent as many Roman emperors from the get go but in fairness his worst atrocities occurred after he survived what may have been encephalitis, which can be the equivalent of putting a brain in microwave. Whatever the truth it can't detract from John Hurt's brilliant performance.
deriter64 1 year ago
@deriter64 Another theory was that Caligula suffered lead poisoning due to a sweetener that was made in a lead bowl to retain the flavour and add to wine. Caligula drank a bit excessively and damaged his brain as a result. That and with the fact he was at Tiberius' mercy as he family died at the emperor's orders, he likely had a warped regard for human life in general.
3baxcb 1 year ago
what did claudius mean when he said that he should have killed him when he had the chance
pirateking193 1 year ago
@pirateking193 he was reminding caligula of what he was saying, just before caligula went off on a flight of fancy caused by his headache he had been saying that he "should of killed (tiberius) when he had the chance" for having lots of debts.
Denseus1 1 year ago
JOHN HURT IS ABOSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING........WHAT A CAST........ THANKS FOR POSTING.............
rudel451 1 year ago 2
Tiberius actually left over three billion sesterces. He got it from killing rich political opponents and the rich in general.
Coleburg 1 year ago
@Coleburg The one benefit of a proscription. Tiberius' stepfather Augustus knew that well when he was know as Octavian and did the same to anyone he and Antony believed murdered Caesar or sided with Brutus and Cassius.
Make a list of political opponents with great wealth. Label them as traitors, murderers, enemies of the state, etc. Forgo due process of the time. Kill them and anyone else you see fit. Compensate their wealth and leave their families impoverished.
3baxcb 1 year ago
I love my sister-not like Gaius mind you, but, my sister's kids....
Ah, if the three of them had only one neck!
davesdatingtips 1 year ago
Great series with outstanding performances by all. But for this segment, John Hurt pulls out all stops! His performance of this madman (Caligula has been labeled the "poster child" for sociopaths!) is just incredible.
frtw4428 2 years ago 3
John Hurt is very very good at this acting thing.
ukprince9 2 years ago 3
@ukprince9
acting thing? He is RATHER good! Isn't he?!
Hee haw, hee haw, snnnoorrrtt.
CarltonBowlTrouser 2 years ago
i loved ROME
and you have to think of it all as historical fiction no body really knows what those people were like its all a interpertation
dannyo07 2 years ago 2
7:07 ) Right about now, I would be thinking about packing my goat skin with a few clean loincloths to take with me as I did the bonny off to the 7 hills.
crockyoshighty 2 years ago 5
The best thing about HBO's Rome was the actor who played Julius Caesar.
As good as I Claudius is, its Augustus is more like what Hadrian was like instead of the blond, skinny Machiavelli who brought down Marc Antony.
jaygatsby12 2 years ago
Tony "Baldrick" Robinson ;]
SauroniastyPL 2 years ago 4
I was waiting for him to say he had a cunning plan!
MauserK43 2 years ago 5
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HBO's Rome sucked. Unlike "I Claudius" it had too many historical mistakes, not that "I Claudius" hasnt. One is that Tiberius left the Empire with lots of money, not debts.
ANAMNEN20AR 3 years ago
Both shows were modern interpretations of historical events. They took liberties, but the general themes still ring true. I really enjoyed both shows.
Phillies64 2 years ago 4
Finally, an opinion of reason. The purposes of both "Rome" and "I, Claudius" are to ENTERTAIN. They are based on historical events, not meant to be taken literally has history. Are some viewers really that credulous that everything they see must be literal and true?
jonwiley 2 years ago 26
They're the same idiots who take the likes of The Da Vinci Code seriously.
Jitpring 2 years ago 5
@jonwiley True, especially for I Claudius. He was a moderate ruler but becomes more sympathetic figure if the other emperors are shown with such negative characteristics (likely exaggerated) and especially with Caligula. How can we emphasize with Claudius if we show Augustus' graceful rule, Tiberius stern focus on economics, Caligula's appeal to the common people and legions and Nero's love of theatre and arts to the Eastern provinces? Not as much I say.
3baxcb 1 year ago
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You suck cunt.
n4859 2 years ago
@n4859
Stop talking about your self like that,n4859.
And could you possibly find a better nick?
You illiterate asshole!
CarltonBowlTrouser 2 years ago
This is my favorite episode. John Hurt is a fantastic Caligula.
ronncarol 3 years ago 7
I couldn't agree more! This is the performance of John Hurt's career.
verkaforever 3 years ago 21
@verkaforever You're too easily impressed.
A1R5N1P3R 1 year ago
You are too difficult to impress!
verkaforever 1 year ago
Did the guy playing Caligula voice anything in Watership Down? His voice sounds really familiar.
mimitiramisu 3 years ago
John Hurt played Hazel in "Watership Down." Well spotted! :)
Kaminarikodomo 3 years ago 2
He also played General Woundwort in Watership Down in (7 episodes, 1999-2000)
Geistjaeger 2 years ago
A statue maker with an east end accent?!
Arkady63 3 years ago
In the Mayan and Aztec civilizations, serial killers were not identified as the deranged murderers we know them to be today; rather, they were viewed as being annointed by the gods. Thus, they were placed in positions of immense religious power, able to slaughter thousands to appease the Sun god. Unfortunately, a variation of this theme still exists. Just look at the religious cults that have been in the news because their leader ordered them to drink poisoned koolaid. These things still happen.
quantumforce100 3 years ago
the speech does not match with the mouth
lifematch 3 years ago
Caligula would be the first mentally ill Roman Emperor but he was not to be the last...
philsaspiezone 3 years ago 2
funny really, when you think about all the hideous things done throughout human history in the name of religion etc etc, and what we know today about schizophrenia etc etc (not wishing to tarnish all schizophrenics with the brush of tyrants!). Just makes me think.
MackerelCat 3 years ago
Yah. We just got rid of one raving maniac named George.
12stringsforme 3 years ago
degenerates
brucemccallum 3 years ago 2
lol, what a bunch of degenerots
iorixs 3 years ago