look up ZeroRWHP or tonydsrt4....both of them are in the 10's...and my stock turbo car run's 12.8's...spikin 19 holdn about 14...24 inch M and H's. aftermarket suspension and 3 inch exhaust big front mount
The amount of ignorant, uneducated, and just plain ridiculous comments on this video is way beyond anything I have ever seen on any other video on YouTube.
@MrReubenjoyner Thats weird because I own a supercharged 91 Mustang and an E-85 SRT and my SRT destroys my Stang in every way. I have a harder time driving the SRT because its too much power for such a light compact car.
@hootieti Just for fun dude :P If we say these things in person people get all spastic and stuff. There's no internet cops so we losers say whats on our mind here! lul
Ford Lightnings rock!! I have a silver '01 with black rims and upgraded air intake and exhaust. Im at about 325hp. Im looking to get a whipple supercharger when I have the money. The SRT4 is ok. I think its ugly myself and slow off the line.
@MrMustangFan87 How can you say the tires are better? Did you ask the guy with the SRT yourself? Yes, it may take 18-20 psi, but we also have 4 less cylinders and cranking out 230 horse stock and with a simple tune and a cold air intake can get over 300 horse. Also, who gives a rats ass how light something is? You can put a Hybusa motor in a smart car and wax a Ferarri and it weighs nothing... Ford guys are so simple minded. :D
@76plymouthscamp LMFAO it takes a turbo and 20 psi to beat an almost stock lightning. Not to mention it has better tires and is way lighter. Look at the details closely before you say stupid shit
@MrMustangFan87 You're retarded. the lighting has twice the engine and a supercharger. You expect any naturally aspirated 4cylinder to keep up with a boosted v8? the lightning has the advantage by far. Look at the details closely before you say stupid shit.
@FadedRX8 Dude you must be retarded. If it was a stock turbo i could understand but its not. A stock turbo is set up to handle about 12-14psi ,hes got a bigger turbo ,and 4cyls are lighter and faster than most cars + a bigger turbo = A beast car (if it wasnt a dodge) ...I can beat V8 camaros and Ram Trucks in my moms escort.....There would be no hope for 'em if i got a turbo ,exhaust, exhaust manifold and intake......and again the SRT has better tires so it shouldve hooked up better at the start
@MrMustangFan87 That made no sense. A lightning comes stock with a supercharger, costs more, and is slower. I have an 86 mustang and it's comments like this that makes racing YouTube arguments retarded.
@davido83 I said if the SRT had a stock turbo I could understand about people whining.....and No fucking shit Lightings come Supercharged. I have an 87 GT and maybe getting an 86 GT soon. So again SRTs are slow pos cars especialy if the almost lose to a stock Lightning
@MrMustangFan87 You truly are a retard aren't you? SRT-4's are hardly slow factory for under 20 thousand dollars. Especially when you can get them for 7-8k around 60-80k miles running 14's off the lot. You make muscle enthusiasts roll in their graves. Let the big boys who know somethings about cars talk here. Move along lil mustang fan.
@davido83 Look at the message to 76Plymouthscamp........read at the bottom or get your mommy to read it for you "A-L-M-O-S-T S-T-O-C-K" .......hmmmm let the big boys play ..........The 8k SRT-4 or my 2k 380hp '87 Mustang GT.....Yeah Im pretty sure I got the better deal there considering I got a beast mustang instead of a pos Neon
@davido83 I bought a 2000 Mustang GT for $3500 that was running 13.4's when i got it. by the time I have $7k tied up in the car it will be running low 11's (Vortech v2 system)
@davido83 About twice as much as a 2v Mustang. You can upgrade to forced induction for $1600 if you buy the head-unit separately and piece together the kit. For about $6k you have a car capable of running in the low 11s.
@mikedero08 I call BS on that one, a 360WHP SRT4 with 500lbs of weight reduction and drag slicks barely gets under an 11.9 and it costs hella more than $3k to get there.
@mikedero08 And the other thing you failed to grasp was the $6k was the all-in price, for $9k you can purchase the mustang, add forced induction, swap ring and pinion gears, swap for a carbon fiber driveshaft, add an aftermarket intake manifold, throttlebody, plenum, headers, get a programmable flash tuner with launch control, and buy a set of NT555's all to run a pass in the low 10's.
@Jaes2KGT i was saying u are wrong for saying the srt4 sucks....if u think mine is slow check out my channel i have a 1/8th mile run with my stock turbo srt4 just exhaust,solid mounts and bigger ic. they dont suck, they are fast cars for the money. my friends is big turbo stock internals and he runs high 11s in the 1/4 so u shut ur asshole BITCH!
@Jaes2KGT 13.7 is quick for a stock trubo 4 cylinder. what does ur car run? what do u drive? u seem to act like u are the shit? ur a worthless internet troll go suck ur on cack
@stairmaster3001 13.7 is crap, I've tuned a 2.0 Soltice GXP that runs 12.7's all stock except for the hood/intake piping. and thats a 2.0 not a 2.4. I drive a Mustang in case the 2KGT wasn't self explanatory.
@Jaes2KGT lol no it isnt........darell cox has the red sled running 8s.......mustangs are fucking wack. and u never answered my question?? what do u drive? what does it run??
@stairmaster3001 Let me clarify for you since you apparently need it, The fastest a stock displacement engine SRT4 will run is in the 11's. My Mustang runs in the high 12's low 13's on a naturally aspirated 2v 4.6 with stock internals.
@Jaes2KGT so u have double the displacement and cylinders than i do. my run was with dry rotted street tires.....gimmie some 10 inch slicks and ill be running 13 flats al day. and btw nigel alexander ran 10.24 in the 1/4 with stock bottom end...it is still a 2.4 Liter engine.
@Jaes2KGT lol but the supercharger uses up power running off the serp belt. turbos run of exhaust so no hp/tq loss. u will always make more power with a turbo charger because of that.
@stairmaster3001 Superchargers also have pulleys so peristaltic drag can be reduced, and they also produce more boost and can be piggy backed to a turbo system
@davido83 I wouldn't bother with Craigslist. A v2 is $400 used, intercooler another $400, used lightening MAF $80, injectors $225. Still think its impossible?
@Jaes2KGT LOL okay. Let the big boys talk. Go back to your own little world. When you want to race a real car message me. I'm in the military and travel A LOT. So please enlighten.
@davido83 not sure what being in the military has to do with anything. I live near Quantico. If you're near me, bring your pseudo car and we can race. If you drive like you talk, perhaps I should run you in reverse.
@Jaes2KGT psuedo? Military meaning I get free trips wherever and I wouldn't mind stopping by. Ever heard of context clues? And if you think your car can beat an srt-4 in reverse you are highly mistaken and know nothing about cars.
@Jaes2KGT Your knowledge of cars show by the way you post. An srt-4 is nowhere near your typical ricer buddy. What would be the point in a large diameter exhaust? I have stock pipes dual exhaust catless. What makes you think it has a fart can? Youtube badass.
@davido83 turbo 4 cylinders are garbage. You'll realize that by the end of your 20s. I own Secondlap auto parts. What do you have to show for, oh wise adolescent?
@Jaes2KGT You're website looks like garbage. Basic HTML. You make yourself look like the young one. Haha. Your place is a fucking hole in the wall. Turbo 4 cylinders are such garbage yeah. Go talk to Ken Block. Sounds like you need a lesson in cars.
@Jaes2KGT For someone who claims to be knowledgeable on cars and the owner of a business, you sure bitch like a child whos parents just let him get on YouTube for the first time. Grow up dude. I dont even remember what I commented on that you replied to but I can tell that you are a complete idiot. Its very clear that you are ignorant and have no mechanical knowledge. Your opinionated comments make you look like a total jackass.
@davido83 How the hell did I know you were about 19? Have you eve turned 20 yet? You were 16 years old June 2008, no wonder you think the SRT4 is a good car, its probably your only car.
@SchultzLD i'll never own an auto but stop hatin! if you leave it in D you'll be in 4th right before throttle is given, then it has to shift down to 2nd or whatever gear he was in. Most people who race start in the gear that they wanna be in
lol you know what i like to do? go to my local rent a car shop, rent their corvette for 300 that night, bet my life savings at the local strip and watch them wheep. lmao. seriously though, if im racing that fast, and my windows are down. ROLL THEM UP. its like adding 50 horses at that speed. seriously, it creates SOOO much drag. i actually won a race by rolling my windows up. honest to god. i fucking laughed my ass off and at the end of the race, i told him about it and he started laughing too!
its a pickup more weight to tote nd u got smoked and u may hav him at top end but it a heavy truck vs a lil car so in your own lil world i geuss your cool
alright, the maker of this video is full of shit... it says stock turbo, even though srt4's are supercharged stock.. and it says 20 psi, which if it had a turbo on 20 psi (the supercharger wont make that) it wouldnt get spanked by a 405 hp truck
@TheRiseagainstfan srt4s come with turbos not supercharges what are you talking about look it up you must be thinking about the first generation cobalt ss cars that came out supercharged for like the first 2 years then upgraded to turbo after that
@ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL youre right, i was mixed up, not with cobalts but with the original srt4 preproduction was supercharged... and still theres no way this is producing 20lbs on stock turbo, and if it was it wouldve won
@TheRiseagainstfan im sorry to say but they didnt bro the neon srt 4 only came into production from 03-05 the 03s were the slowest 04 and 05 all came with stage 1 parts from the dealer all three years were turbo i had one mine was pushing 20#s on stock turbo all you had to do was reroute some lines and your done instant boost on those with a diablo programmer you were good to go
@rarelibra truck lets off after the car started pulling so thats a win enough for me you can tell the truck didnt let off till after the car passed him up
@phogallen1 The 2010 is not a 5.0 it is a 4.6 with 100 less horsepower and a 5 speed I also have a factory 3.73's. The new 5.0 is about 1.7-2 seconds faster than the 10 stock!!
@TheMacMan35 Dude, they may be slow, but literally ANY Honda is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Ford (or Chevy/Dodge for that matter) in terms of build quality. Sure, the SRT-4 is definitely way faster, but he's right. They're just American made crap. Have you driven a new Ford/Chevy/Dodge lately? ie: I'm a HUGE Vette guy and even I can't stand how cheap and "plastic" they feel now. Ever see the Top Gear episode were they flex the back bumper in several inches with only 2 FINGERS pushing on it? Nuf said.
@70Chevelledude When comparing the feel of a new Honda to the feel of a new Ford/Chevy, the Honda feels like a Mercedes Benz or a BMW by comparison. Honda & Toyota always have, & always will be built better. Just a fact. Still love my Vette's, but we just don't make em like we used to. America has gone cheap, & doesn't look like it's coming back...HOW can you put the same plastic steering wheel that's in the Cobalt, in a $70,000 Z06?? Just feels cheap...My 93 Honda is tighter than my 2010 Ford.
@fretwizard420 what about cadillac? you cant tell me that cadillacs feel plastic. and USDM has alot of luxurious cars and brands so dont go talk shit on american made cars because every car manufacturer has their goods and their bads and your basing all your facts on your opinions not actual facts.
@70Chevelledude So it's my opinion that the same cheapo shitty interior parts that are in the Cobalt are also in the Vette?? I've driven both. They're in there. Believe me. And Caddy's are nice, but I wasn't referring higher end cars such as them. Just the "average" car most can get. I'm still gonna stand firm on this one. The Japs just make tighter, better quality stuff than we do. I work on all types of cars every single day, so I see it all. Not hating on our shit, but I see it first hand.
@Jaes2KGT Ha ha, no way! I would never buy a Ford. One of the perks with my job is getting a free company vehicle to drive. 2010 Ranger with NO options....Woo Hoo!
@fretwizard420 I wouldn't base my opinion on a base model pickup truck. I prefer Ford to other American manufacturers. Then again, I have owned several from Contour SVT's to Mustangs to a Lincoln MKX. I won't buy a GM product is because I know a GM powertrain engineer that drives an F350 and my brother works for EDS who programs GM vehicle software and has tried for years to copy Ford's fuel injection programming. As For Chrysler, I owned one, and never will again.
@Jaes2KGT I've had several other Fords throughout the years, a Mustang, a Taurus, a Windstar, and even a Mercury or two. All loaded to the max with options. I actually like the Ranger the best out of them all! Once I went Jap though, I never went back. I've just had alot better luck as far as quality is concerned. To each their own though. It's all one's opinion. As long as you're happy with your car, who cares what it is, right?
@DC2slammed LMAO you called me a goof! im not hating! i have a grip of honda friends and i have respect for hondas but when people start talkin shit on chevy im gonna talk shit back LOL so STFU!
@fretwizard420 your a fucking top gear fanboy retard, never compare a civic to a vette again, and besides that 70k that you spend on a vette isn't made for it to "be a nice car inside" it's made to shit and get on the track. If you think it's overpriced, then you are one of those pussies that needs air conditioning and heated seats. BADASS car aren't built for luxury.
@garrittpwl OK troll, just settle down. Nobody said Civic's were cool. Just because a car is fast & expensive, doesn't mean it forgets how to be built worth a shit. You go drive a 911 Turbo & tell me it's built as poorly as a ZR1. Is that car for "pussies that need AC & heated seats? No, it GETS you pussy in it's AC & heated seats. For the record I deleted the AC & power steering from my car for the track. Heated seats? Please. Seems the only track you drive is in Forza in your parents basement
@fretwizard420 yup you're right forza in my basement, dipshit, if you're going to look at my videos, look at them all. one of my fucking karts has the power to size ratio of a 500 horse fox body mustang, 0.2 litres pullying 25 horse out of an OHV engine. One of my karts would kill your "track" car. and porsche's are "nice" but they DO NOT get you pussy.
@garrittpwl Just TRY and roll down the strip in a 911 Turbo and tell me you don't have vagina panties hittin' you in the face left and right LOL. Sure, the Porsche doesn't do the job entirely for you, but it definitely helps. Hell, I've had bitches fallin' over a shitty Celica let alone a 911 Turbo. You roll up in a Rarri or a Porsch....game over! Shits in the bag, even if you're ugly as sin. Most of them are just gold diggers who only see dollar signs...
@letsgobassfishin Yeah, I still would. They are very fast...for a neon, but still a 4 banger neon.Everybody under estimates a sleeper at some point tho...always sucks.
@GoFoMoCo I just watched your video against the Neon...Awesome man love it, i think they are fun little grocery getters but if you wana do some real racing theres no replacement for displacement haha
@FreedomTeam6 Because whats meant by that is by having a larger engine you can generate more low end torque with much more reliability, lots of my friends drive DSM's and shit and they crank 30 psi in their cars and make the same power as my supercharged mustang but they also rebuild their shit every month almost and ive got around 50,000 miles on my supercharged motor with not a single problem, so can tuners make the power? sure...but its not as reliable is all
@jknif35 Actually my good friend owns his own performance shop, not guna say the name cuz he does good work and i dont wana discredit him but his shop got a brand new evo as a demo car and after doing some engine work and tune they made 430hp 380 ft lbs on their dyno and blew the engine just 2 weeks later. Evo and STI are great cars and more reliable but you just cant push those engines to high HP's and expect them to last for years
@Chadb89 im not being a dick when i say this at all. But people run 600-700 hp evo's as daily drivers for years. 400-500 whp evo's are even more common and require no more maintenance than a stock car really. If your friend blew that car up on 430 whp, then he doesn't need to be tuning an Evo. Period. Most evo's on the road are at that range and they don't blow up in two weeks haha. you shouldn't work on things if you don't know how to tune them of course they will blow up.
@jknif35 i dont know what kind of experience you have with engines...but look i promise you it cant happen...either do it yourself and show me or find someone because EVERY person ive talked to met or worked with who had an evo, sti, eclipse, honda, acura etc who tried to make big power had issues and broke stuff very often, do you have any idea how much boost, fuel and timing it takes for a 4 cylinder to make 700hp?..let me just say if you get that engine to last 25,000 miles your jesus himself
@Chadb89 about 35 or so psi 1500 or so cc injectors, twin walbro and a gt35r kit. Just took my EVO to mellon racing in mississippi. he has a 720 whp car he DAILY DRIVES and has for years.(2006) idles like a stock want if he wants it to lol. But this is coming from a guy who "doesn't have experience with engines"
@jknif35 ok heres my point tho, the thing about cars that make their power from boost is when you drive em around town nice and easy and never even get into boost your running on about 200hp or less the only time that engine makes 720hp is for about half a second at the top of the rpm band with 35psi like you said so yeah he can have a car capable of it and drive around nice and easy no problem but he CANNOT rip on that car day in and day out like you could a NA V8 making 700 hp...always breaks
@Chadb89 im sorry man i just disagree. you can make 600 awhp on a stock evo bottom end all day long. you're gonna have to build the guts out of the stang motor. That being said, the mustang is much less reliable than the stock motor evo in that case to me. Everyone is different i guess. His evo is daily driven 20+ mpg and over well over 600 awhp on pump gas 93 octane. the motor is moderately built but is still a 2.0 at the end of the day. And he rips the car plenty :)
@jknif35 but the bottom end isnt whats the problem, the problem is if you want to squeeze 150hp + out of each piston its guna take an insane amount of abuse, the rods, bearings, and other internals are guna have to be beefed the hell up, a stock anything is reliable and how does that make sense....you can make 600hp on a V8 with less mods than a inline 4 so saying youd have to build the shit out of it compared to the evo doesnt make much sense to me.
@Chadb89 if youre talking about building a v8 n/a then you will certainly build it more than the evo. if youre going blown v8 you still need a stand alone return fuel system and not to mention a massive blower set up. All the evo needs really is a big turbo kit, e85, and injectors, and a 70$ fuel pump lol @35psi. No motor build really needed i mean yeah it would last longer but the stock set up would hold out just fine. Maybe a set of head studs and retainers for the cams.
@jknif35 Ok i just realized you dont know what your talking about....i have a 97 GT mustang with a vortech blower at 8-9 psi on stock fuel injectors, stock ignition and stock internals making 410 hp now with the stage 2 meth kit bigger injectors and advancing the timing a little bit il be at 530 ish depending on a few things, and thats it, if you think you can put a big turbo and injectors on an evo and make 700hp reliably your insane dude have fun doing that...35psi on stock internals will blow
@Chadb89 I promise you a stock evo 9 with bigger injectors, gt35r turbo kit, e85, and walbro pump, the obvious bolt ons, and maybe some cams just to lope :) will make 650-700 hp. i will side with you and say some head studs would do the car some good but the stock bottom end would hold it.....mellon tuning made 790 awhp and DD's his. It has upgraded internals but thats basically 800 whp. the 550-700 region is doable but i will say 700 hp is on the upper limits of the motor without a build
my point is you have a vortech on a gt with some bolt ons..... its a v8 blown car. I have an evo stock motor stock turbo that would walk it haha. Not talking shit just saying its cheaper to mod and don't even tell me that you think the stock gt block will hold more than an evo without a built motor lol
@jknif35 dude both ways 600hp is awesome. Im just saying a 600 hp evo honestly is just as safe and driveable and arguably more than a v8. I have two friends with ~650whp kb cobras who drive then alot but not DD. The guy who tuned my car has a 700whp evo he drove everyday for years and got 18-20 mpg.
@Chadb89 however you slice it, its all in the individual.
my friend built his Evo to make 700awhp with his own hands and never has had an issue. he is now running low 10's on e85 and he daily drives it on 93octane getting about 24mpg.
full weight with a small audio system, and ice cold a/c. he bought the car with 13k miles...... his current setup has been reliable for the last 40k miles. the car now has 64k miles.....
@rotor13 Dude this is pointless, for one stop saying stock motor, is it the original BLOCK (shell) sure but internals to the ying yang are forged and built to make 700 hp and btw E85 holds more moisture than gasoline and it eats through steel fuel lines quickly so i hope he enjoys that....and ask your friend everything hes had to do to maintain that car cuz if he beats on it at all basic oil changes wont be enough. anyone with a 700hp car can puttz around and make the car last.
@rotor13 Look it up the moisture rusts the fuel lines from the inside out unless you replace em all, it literally says it if you look it up....gasoline diesel they all absorb moisture but E85 does it more than them all, flex fuel vehicles have diff fuel lines.....700hp on stock crank rods and pistons is bullshit
@Chadb89 car built after the late 90's have their fuel systems treated with anti corrosion processes and coatings built in.
MANY people have tested the corrosive nature of ethanol..... taking a hardline or hose fuel line and letting it sit over the course of 3 weeks... no rust, no pitting, no etching, rubber not eaten away.
The misconception is that you NEED to upgrade your fuel system.... you dont. you just need a recalibration of the ECU.
@Chadb89 And you can call bullshit on my buddies stock bottom end Evo9 making 700hp all you want all day and night.... but there are PLENTY of videos out there of stock block evos pulling between 500-800hp on stock bottom ends with nothing more than mild headwork and decently thick headgasket.
AND he makes the 700hp running 37psi of boost on a 6262.
@Chadb89 Diesel is not at all corrosive..... the additives in diesel, which are mostly lubrication and sulfur reducers makes it impossible for diesel to rust.
i've had diesel sit in my grandfathers truck for almost 2 years because he was restricted to a wheel chair, and the only BAD thing that happened was that it took about 10 cranks to start up. and had NO issues pushing the 60+ psi it was modified to.
@Chadb89 just get your head outta your ass and do the research for yourself..... forget the "lab tests" and pay attention to the REAL WORLD tests. because you forget, people talk about ethanol and its corrosiveness with PURE ethanol.... it has completely different properties when mixed with 15% gasoline.
@Chadb89 my neighbors been through 3 civics in the past year and a half and my mustang is still strong with the exception of getting new tires and fixing my ac
@Chadb89 the problem is not the displacement.... its the tune..... if your friends' dsm's are getting rebuilt every month then something is TERRIBLY wrong with either their parts selection and/or their tuning.
i've had my FD rx7 making 450hp/380tq on 93 for the last 2 years logging in about 25k miles and not one problem at all.
a comment like yours is a two-way street. just because what you see as small is less, can also mean that big is less to someone else, its all in the experience as well
@rotor13 thats all well and fine but this other guy is saying a 700hp evo is a daily driver you can woop on and still get 30,000 miles out of AT LEAST .... im calling bullshit...Buschur racing out of ohio the guys who HOST the DSM shootout has had their car at the track the last 3 years ive gone and every year it breaks after 5 or 6 runs and it made 730 hp one year and 800 somthing the following two, my point?..They are a PERFORMANCE TUNING SHOP if it happens to them it will happen 2 u
Wow.. He must not realize how much he loses hitting the limiter like that.
UndertheRadarTM 2 days ago
If he didn't spend so much time on the rev limiter in 1st gear, he would have taken that Skittle.
SickG6 2 days ago
Adz get aids
toms5oh 6 days ago
What was the top speed? The Lightning had the supercharger wound up real tight
Woodbrother21 1 week ago
svt lightings are fast, but are ugly as fuck.
azdodgesrt4 1 week ago
wow typical dodge. ford lets off and starts slowing down and the dodge has to go flying by thinking he won..
FordsRule351 1 week ago
look up ZeroRWHP or tonydsrt4....both of them are in the 10's...and my stock turbo car run's 12.8's...spikin 19 holdn about 14...24 inch M and H's. aftermarket suspension and 3 inch exhaust big front mount
Zultan06 1 month ago
type ZeroRWHP and realtuned performance in
Zultan06 1 month ago
Hell Blow it up
f150muddin321 1 month ago
The amount of ignorant, uneducated, and just plain ridiculous comments on this video is way beyond anything I have ever seen on any other video on YouTube.
mikedero08 1 month ago
@mikedero08 like comparing a 91 mustang that weighs 2800 lbs to an srt4 that weighs the same.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
i love the lightnings but that guy has got to take better care of his truck.. that paint was fucked...
SirTomothy 1 month ago
he lost the 1/8,1/4, and mile. Then passes the person. Hell my 300C eats srt-4's
vector150 2 months ago
@vector150 hahahahaha
mikedero08 1 month ago
@mikedero08 Not sure what your hahahaing about. Must of been something I said. So put your money where your mouth is or leave it in the driveway.
vector150 1 month ago
turbo kicked in after 12 seconds lol
JustinConcussion 2 months ago
I lol at your driving.
tyhicks2 2 months ago
Congratulations... you beat a pickup truck.
mathiastheok 3 months ago
@mathiastheok a pickup truck that runs a 13.9, the same as an NA 2v mustang.
Jaes2KGT 2 months ago
SRTs are gay. There for little boys who can't handle a V8
MrReubenjoyner 3 months ago
@MrReubenjoyner Thats weird because I own a supercharged 91 Mustang and an E-85 SRT and my SRT destroys my Stang in every way. I have a harder time driving the SRT because its too much power for such a light compact car.
mikedero08 1 month ago
@mikedero08 try changing the gears you fucking retard. Its hard, I know.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
the srt may have won, but im a sucker for lightnings ;-)
aulvalenzuela21 3 months ago 2
@aulvalenzuela21 the srt didnt win.
Stangsoldier13 1 month ago
hell rev limiter batman
hootieti 3 months ago
Can't we all just accept that Ford gets its ass kicked by any SRT ever made?
Thanks
uMadBroBro 4 months ago
@uMadBroBro yet another ignorant comment on the internet...why do you guys keep doing this.....
hootieti 3 months ago
@hootieti Just for fun dude :P If we say these things in person people get all spastic and stuff. There's no internet cops so we losers say whats on our mind here! lul
uMadBroBro 3 months ago
Ford Lightnings rock!! I have a silver '01 with black rims and upgraded air intake and exhaust. Im at about 325hp. Im looking to get a whipple supercharger when I have the money. The SRT4 is ok. I think its ugly myself and slow off the line.
usnavyet3 4 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 How can you say the tires are better? Did you ask the guy with the SRT yourself? Yes, it may take 18-20 psi, but we also have 4 less cylinders and cranking out 230 horse stock and with a simple tune and a cold air intake can get over 300 horse. Also, who gives a rats ass how light something is? You can put a Hybusa motor in a smart car and wax a Ferarri and it weighs nothing... Ford guys are so simple minded. :D
76plymouthscamp 4 months ago
oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh its a truck. god i know nothing about cars
sportagus3 4 months ago
With an Srt10 it would have been the same result.
FoxSoFly 4 months ago
lol I laughed my ass off watching this. 405hp and a SRT4 kept up even after a bad start??? hahahaha Get a SRT10 Ford fag =D
76plymouthscamp 5 months ago
@76plymouthscamp LMFAO it takes a turbo and 20 psi to beat an almost stock lightning. Not to mention it has better tires and is way lighter. Look at the details closely before you say stupid shit
MrMustangFan87 4 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 You're retarded. the lighting has twice the engine and a supercharger. You expect any naturally aspirated 4cylinder to keep up with a boosted v8? the lightning has the advantage by far. Look at the details closely before you say stupid shit.
FadedRX8 4 months ago
@FadedRX8 Dude you must be retarded. If it was a stock turbo i could understand but its not. A stock turbo is set up to handle about 12-14psi ,hes got a bigger turbo ,and 4cyls are lighter and faster than most cars + a bigger turbo = A beast car (if it wasnt a dodge) ...I can beat V8 camaros and Ram Trucks in my moms escort.....There would be no hope for 'em if i got a turbo ,exhaust, exhaust manifold and intake......and again the SRT has better tires so it shouldve hooked up better at the start
MrMustangFan87 4 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 That made no sense. A lightning comes stock with a supercharger, costs more, and is slower. I have an 86 mustang and it's comments like this that makes racing YouTube arguments retarded.
davido83 3 months ago
@davido83 I said if the SRT had a stock turbo I could understand about people whining.....and No fucking shit Lightings come Supercharged. I have an 87 GT and maybe getting an 86 GT soon. So again SRTs are slow pos cars especialy if the almost lose to a stock Lightning
MrMustangFan87 3 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 You truly are a retard aren't you? SRT-4's are hardly slow factory for under 20 thousand dollars. Especially when you can get them for 7-8k around 60-80k miles running 14's off the lot. You make muscle enthusiasts roll in their graves. Let the big boys who know somethings about cars talk here. Move along lil mustang fan.
davido83 3 months ago
@davido83 Look at the message to 76Plymouthscamp........read at the bottom or get your mommy to read it for you "A-L-M-O-S-T S-T-O-C-K" .......hmmmm let the big boys play ..........The 8k SRT-4 or my 2k 380hp '87 Mustang GT.....Yeah Im pretty sure I got the better deal there considering I got a beast mustang instead of a pos Neon
MrMustangFan87 3 months ago
@davido83 14s off the lot? That might impress the ricers but that's about it. LOL
YouSoundButtHurt 3 months ago 2
@davido83 wow the big boys who know something about cars?? if you knew anything you would realize a 14 second car is nothing to brag about...
RaMr0d100 3 months ago
@davido83 I bought a 2000 Mustang GT for $3500 that was running 13.4's when i got it. by the time I have $7k tied up in the car it will be running low 11's (Vortech v2 system)
Jaes2KGT 2 months ago
@MrMustangFan87 Oh and by the way. That Lightning isn't stock. Tard.
davido83 3 months ago
@davido83 I wouldnt brag about having a 15 hp advantage over stock, it might as well be stock.
Jaes2KGT 2 months ago
@Jaes2KGT Oh wait how much can you get an SRT-4 for? That's right.
davido83 2 months ago
@davido83 About twice as much as a 2v Mustang. You can upgrade to forced induction for $1600 if you buy the head-unit separately and piece together the kit. For about $6k you have a car capable of running in the low 11s.
Jaes2KGT 2 months ago
@Jaes2KGT lol i bought my srt for 6000 and put 3k into it and i run low 11's. thats what happens when you do all your own work and dont pay for it.
mikedero08 2 months ago
@mikedero08 I call BS on that one, a 360WHP SRT4 with 500lbs of weight reduction and drag slicks barely gets under an 11.9 and it costs hella more than $3k to get there.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@mikedero08 And the other thing you failed to grasp was the $6k was the all-in price, for $9k you can purchase the mustang, add forced induction, swap ring and pinion gears, swap for a carbon fiber driveshaft, add an aftermarket intake manifold, throttlebody, plenum, headers, get a programmable flash tuner with launch control, and buy a set of NT555's all to run a pass in the low 10's.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@mikedero08 Checkout dragtimes-com for a dose of reality. The SRT4 sucks.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT wrong
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 substantiate your claim with facts or shut the fuck up.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT i was saying u are wrong for saying the srt4 sucks....if u think mine is slow check out my channel i have a 1/8th mile run with my stock turbo srt4 just exhaust,solid mounts and bigger ic. they dont suck, they are fast cars for the money. my friends is big turbo stock internals and he runs high 11s in the 1/4 so u shut ur asshole BITCH!
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 Dumbfuck, your car would run a 13.7 in a quarter. Wow. I'm speechless, I bet that impresses all the riceboys.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT 13.7 is quick for a stock trubo 4 cylinder. what does ur car run? what do u drive? u seem to act like u are the shit? ur a worthless internet troll go suck ur on cack
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 13.7 is crap, I've tuned a 2.0 Soltice GXP that runs 12.7's all stock except for the hood/intake piping. and thats a 2.0 not a 2.4. I drive a Mustang in case the 2KGT wasn't self explanatory.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT of cousre u have no vids to prove anything....
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 Doesn't matter, the facts are this, 11 seconds is the brick wall for an SRT4, much like 6 seconds is for a Mustang.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT lol no it isnt........darell cox has the red sled running 8s.......mustangs are fucking wack. and u never answered my question?? what do u drive? what does it run??
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 Let me clarify for you since you apparently need it, The fastest a stock displacement engine SRT4 will run is in the 11's. My Mustang runs in the high 12's low 13's on a naturally aspirated 2v 4.6 with stock internals.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT so u have double the displacement and cylinders than i do. my run was with dry rotted street tires.....gimmie some 10 inch slicks and ill be running 13 flats al day. and btw nigel alexander ran 10.24 in the 1/4 with stock bottom end...it is still a 2.4 Liter engine.
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 and you have boost AND lag. The fact still remains, displacement trumps all.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT not really. stock turbo hits full boost at 1500 rpms. its not laggy at all.
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 Compare that to a roots style supercharger which makes boost practically from 650 RPM.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT heres a stock motor car in the 10's.
Zultan06 1 month ago
@Zultan06 SURE, and the stock turbo boosts at 20 PSI too.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT lol but the supercharger uses up power running off the serp belt. turbos run of exhaust so no hp/tq loss. u will always make more power with a turbo charger because of that.
stairmaster3001 1 month ago
@stairmaster3001 Superchargers also have pulleys so peristaltic drag can be reduced, and they also produce more boost and can be piggy backed to a turbo system
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT False. Why don't you check craigslist more often bro.
davido83 1 month ago
@davido83 I wouldn't bother with Craigslist. A v2 is $400 used, intercooler another $400, used lightening MAF $80, injectors $225. Still think its impossible?
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT LOL okay. Let the big boys talk. Go back to your own little world. When you want to race a real car message me. I'm in the military and travel A LOT. So please enlighten.
davido83 1 month ago
@davido83 not sure what being in the military has to do with anything. I live near Quantico. If you're near me, bring your pseudo car and we can race. If you drive like you talk, perhaps I should run you in reverse.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT psuedo? Military meaning I get free trips wherever and I wouldn't mind stopping by. Ever heard of context clues? And if you think your car can beat an srt-4 in reverse you are highly mistaken and know nothing about cars.
davido83 1 month ago
@davido83 bring your POS with its larger diameter exhaust than engine bore.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT Your knowledge of cars show by the way you post. An srt-4 is nowhere near your typical ricer buddy. What would be the point in a large diameter exhaust? I have stock pipes dual exhaust catless. What makes you think it has a fart can? Youtube badass.
davido83 1 month ago
@davido83 turbo 4 cylinders are garbage. You'll realize that by the end of your 20s. I own Secondlap auto parts. What do you have to show for, oh wise adolescent?
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT You're website looks like garbage. Basic HTML. You make yourself look like the young one. Haha. Your place is a fucking hole in the wall. Turbo 4 cylinders are such garbage yeah. Go talk to Ken Block. Sounds like you need a lesson in cars.
davido83 1 month ago
@davido83. Do you know the difference between a 400hp srt4 and a 400hp sn95? .70 seconds. Mustang wins Dipshit. What website?
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT For someone who claims to be knowledgeable on cars and the owner of a business, you sure bitch like a child whos parents just let him get on YouTube for the first time. Grow up dude. I dont even remember what I commented on that you replied to but I can tell that you are a complete idiot. Its very clear that you are ignorant and have no mechanical knowledge. Your opinionated comments make you look like a total jackass.
mikedero08 1 month ago
@davido83 How the hell did I know you were about 19? Have you eve turned 20 yet? You were 16 years old June 2008, no wonder you think the SRT4 is a good car, its probably your only car.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
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Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
Who the hell hits the rev lim in a Auto? What a turd. Leave it in D OD off, you wont look like a tool that way.
SchultzLD 5 months ago 10
@SchultzLD the thing is the trans in it is probably worn and that's already in D
neversatisfiedlol 4 months ago
@SchultzLD His transmission was slipping, dumb-ass. Go read what added power does to stock automatics.
ironbloodus 4 months ago
@SchultzLD i'll never own an auto but stop hatin! if you leave it in D you'll be in 4th right before throttle is given, then it has to shift down to 2nd or whatever gear he was in. Most people who race start in the gear that they wanna be in
bgjon87 3 months ago
@SchultzLD
Thats what I was thinking! Dude needs a tune or something. Ive never hit the limiter in mine, and ive raced in D and OD off…
spartacusurf3 2 months ago
good race
99gsrVTECintegra 5 months ago
lol you know what i like to do? go to my local rent a car shop, rent their corvette for 300 that night, bet my life savings at the local strip and watch them wheep. lmao. seriously though, if im racing that fast, and my windows are down. ROLL THEM UP. its like adding 50 horses at that speed. seriously, it creates SOOO much drag. i actually won a race by rolling my windows up. honest to god. i fucking laughed my ass off and at the end of the race, i told him about it and he started laughing too!
fightingisfortheweak 5 months ago
its a pickup more weight to tote nd u got smoked and u may hav him at top end but it a heavy truck vs a lil car so in your own lil world i geuss your cool
jrdragracer22 5 months ago
Way to hit the rev limiter on an automatic transmission...next time let it shift itself and win, douche.
BountyXP 6 months ago
@BountyXP thats what i was thinking..
just13lazed 4 months ago
@ what MPH did u finally pass him?
yonkersracing 6 months ago
@yonkersracing when the lightning let off the gas pedal, that's when...
rarelibra 6 months ago
@rarelibra lol
yonkersracing 6 months ago
alright, the maker of this video is full of shit... it says stock turbo, even though srt4's are supercharged stock.. and it says 20 psi, which if it had a turbo on 20 psi (the supercharger wont make that) it wouldnt get spanked by a 405 hp truck
TheRiseagainstfan 7 months ago
@TheRiseagainstfan srt4s come with turbos not supercharges what are you talking about look it up you must be thinking about the first generation cobalt ss cars that came out supercharged for like the first 2 years then upgraded to turbo after that
ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL 6 months ago
@ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL youre right, i was mixed up, not with cobalts but with the original srt4 preproduction was supercharged... and still theres no way this is producing 20lbs on stock turbo, and if it was it wouldve won
TheRiseagainstfan 6 months ago
@TheRiseagainstfan none of them came supercharged bro and the car did win
ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL 6 months ago
@ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL the first one did
TheRiseagainstfan 6 months ago
@TheRiseagainstfan im sorry to say but they didnt bro the neon srt 4 only came into production from 03-05 the 03s were the slowest 04 and 05 all came with stage 1 parts from the dealer all three years were turbo i had one mine was pushing 20#s on stock turbo all you had to do was reroute some lines and your done instant boost on those with a diablo programmer you were good to go
ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL 6 months ago
@ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL car didn't win... you don't win from behind when the truck lets off the gas pedal for you... that's called getting pwned.
rarelibra 6 months ago
@rarelibra truck lets off after the car started pulling so thats a win enough for me you can tell the truck didnt let off till after the car passed him up
ELpincheWEROdeLETHAL 6 months ago
srt4 vs lightning
which is gayer?
Vathane 7 months ago
@Vathane answer = they are both equally gay. they are dick magnets!
docjones1979 6 months ago
truck was not even trying........too old driver.....LOL
jeepers2655 7 months ago
@phogallen1 The 2010 is not a 5.0 it is a 4.6 with 100 less horsepower and a 5 speed I also have a factory 3.73's. The new 5.0 is about 1.7-2 seconds faster than the 10 stock!!
1970351cmustang 7 months ago
it sucks they never made the lightning a 5 or 6 speed
PRZJ91 7 months ago
that lightnings paint is in BAD SHAPE.. OMFG.
LightningMAS 7 months ago
Damn lost to a truck!!I just raced a stage 2 with my 2011 5.0 (stock) it was definatley faster! It had a stage 3 emblem but it still lost!
1970351cmustang 8 months ago
Hey its a neon shitbox LOL
jambonfrais2 8 months ago
God Bless America
DanielBallHBKA 8 months ago
To all of you fucking haters, the srt4 will beat 95% of your cars. So please shut the fuck up. Both are very sick USDM cars. Stop the hate.
BryanLovesDub 8 months ago
@BryanLovesDub no it wont..they barley beat anything.
GoFoMoCo 8 months ago 2
@BryanLovesDub
Pretty sure I'm in the 5%, LOL. Not like I enjoy having one of those understeering skittles try to race me. Torque steer FTMFL.
bigworm76 8 months ago
@BryanLovesDub they arnt slow but they wont beat 95 percent of the cars common be reasonable
pvtgolddust 4 months ago
If all you morons need a CAR to get you women, you're doing it wrong.
850wagonT5 8 months ago
Did someone say Porshe? That's french for fresh vagina right?
GR8PHD 8 months ago
@GR8PHD hahah XD
NerdBriaan 8 months ago
Dear Mom, I wrecked your car racing a pickup. Signed DUMBASS.
GR8PHD 8 months ago
@TheMacMan35 Dude, they may be slow, but literally ANY Honda is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Ford (or Chevy/Dodge for that matter) in terms of build quality. Sure, the SRT-4 is definitely way faster, but he's right. They're just American made crap. Have you driven a new Ford/Chevy/Dodge lately? ie: I'm a HUGE Vette guy and even I can't stand how cheap and "plastic" they feel now. Ever see the Top Gear episode were they flex the back bumper in several inches with only 2 FINGERS pushing on it? Nuf said.
fretwizard420 9 months ago
@fretwizard420 honda makes lawn mowers lol and honda has been making PLASTIC feeling cars for years now lol
70Chevelledude 8 months ago
@70Chevelledude When comparing the feel of a new Honda to the feel of a new Ford/Chevy, the Honda feels like a Mercedes Benz or a BMW by comparison. Honda & Toyota always have, & always will be built better. Just a fact. Still love my Vette's, but we just don't make em like we used to. America has gone cheap, & doesn't look like it's coming back...HOW can you put the same plastic steering wheel that's in the Cobalt, in a $70,000 Z06?? Just feels cheap...My 93 Honda is tighter than my 2010 Ford.
fretwizard420 8 months ago
@fretwizard420 what about cadillac? you cant tell me that cadillacs feel plastic. and USDM has alot of luxurious cars and brands so dont go talk shit on american made cars because every car manufacturer has their goods and their bads and your basing all your facts on your opinions not actual facts.
70Chevelledude 8 months ago
@70Chevelledude So it's my opinion that the same cheapo shitty interior parts that are in the Cobalt are also in the Vette?? I've driven both. They're in there. Believe me. And Caddy's are nice, but I wasn't referring higher end cars such as them. Just the "average" car most can get. I'm still gonna stand firm on this one. The Japs just make tighter, better quality stuff than we do. I work on all types of cars every single day, so I see it all. Not hating on our shit, but I see it first hand.
fretwizard420 8 months ago
@fretwizard420 and yet you bought the ford.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT Ha ha, no way! I would never buy a Ford. One of the perks with my job is getting a free company vehicle to drive. 2010 Ranger with NO options....Woo Hoo!
fretwizard420 1 month ago
@fretwizard420 I wouldn't base my opinion on a base model pickup truck. I prefer Ford to other American manufacturers. Then again, I have owned several from Contour SVT's to Mustangs to a Lincoln MKX. I won't buy a GM product is because I know a GM powertrain engineer that drives an F350 and my brother works for EDS who programs GM vehicle software and has tried for years to copy Ford's fuel injection programming. As For Chrysler, I owned one, and never will again.
Jaes2KGT 1 month ago
@Jaes2KGT I've had several other Fords throughout the years, a Mustang, a Taurus, a Windstar, and even a Mercury or two. All loaded to the max with options. I actually like the Ranger the best out of them all! Once I went Jap though, I never went back. I've just had alot better luck as far as quality is concerned. To each their own though. It's all one's opinion. As long as you're happy with your car, who cares what it is, right?
fretwizard420 1 month ago
@70Chevelledude you mean chevy makes plastic cars? fukn goof keep hating
DC2slammed 8 months ago
@DC2slammed LMAO you called me a goof! im not hating! i have a grip of honda friends and i have respect for hondas but when people start talkin shit on chevy im gonna talk shit back LOL so STFU!
70Chevelledude 8 months ago
@fretwizard420 your a fucking top gear fanboy retard, never compare a civic to a vette again, and besides that 70k that you spend on a vette isn't made for it to "be a nice car inside" it's made to shit and get on the track. If you think it's overpriced, then you are one of those pussies that needs air conditioning and heated seats. BADASS car aren't built for luxury.
garrittpwl 8 months ago
@garrittpwl OK troll, just settle down. Nobody said Civic's were cool. Just because a car is fast & expensive, doesn't mean it forgets how to be built worth a shit. You go drive a 911 Turbo & tell me it's built as poorly as a ZR1. Is that car for "pussies that need AC & heated seats? No, it GETS you pussy in it's AC & heated seats. For the record I deleted the AC & power steering from my car for the track. Heated seats? Please. Seems the only track you drive is in Forza in your parents basement
fretwizard420 8 months ago
@fretwizard420 yup you're right forza in my basement, dipshit, if you're going to look at my videos, look at them all. one of my fucking karts has the power to size ratio of a 500 horse fox body mustang, 0.2 litres pullying 25 horse out of an OHV engine. One of my karts would kill your "track" car. and porsche's are "nice" but they DO NOT get you pussy.
garrittpwl 8 months ago
@garrittpwl Just TRY and roll down the strip in a 911 Turbo and tell me you don't have vagina panties hittin' you in the face left and right LOL. Sure, the Porsche doesn't do the job entirely for you, but it definitely helps. Hell, I've had bitches fallin' over a shitty Celica let alone a 911 Turbo. You roll up in a Rarri or a Porsch....game over! Shits in the bag, even if you're ugly as sin. Most of them are just gold diggers who only see dollar signs...
fretwizard420 8 months ago
I think weight wins this battle. I would take the Lightning either way over the SRT and from a dig the Lightning would pull it big time.
joeason1010 9 months ago
Ferrell Parkway, Virginia Beach?!?
micger1785 9 months ago
Good job, now pull a boat with your Neon...
Messiah1666 9 months ago
If I lost to a neon I would go into hiding.
jcaled24 9 months ago
@jcaled24 not if it was a neon srt
letsgobassfishin 9 months ago
@letsgobassfishin Yeah, I still would. They are very fast...for a neon, but still a 4 banger neon.Everybody under estimates a sleeper at some point tho...always sucks.
jcaled24 9 months ago
@jcaled24
Thats why you will use every lame excuse in the book not to race one
FreedomTeam6 9 months ago
good race
oohklu 10 months ago
The supercharger was not hanging on it was sliping
builtnotbought13 10 months ago
srt4s are a joke. i walked all over one the other day in my N/A cobra lmao check my vids to see that funny shit
GoFoMoCo 10 months ago
@GoFoMoCo I just watched your video against the Neon...Awesome man love it, i think they are fun little grocery getters but if you wana do some real racing theres no replacement for displacement haha
Chadb89 9 months ago
@Chadb89 haha Thanks man. The only reason I raced him is because he was goin around tellin people he could smoke my car.
GoFoMoCo 9 months ago
@GoFoMoCo Psh wow what a tard, its even better when you know the person so you can rub it in their face haha
Chadb89 9 months ago
@Chadb89
why do people say that, no replacement for displacement?
Sure there is, replay the video
FreedomTeam6 9 months ago
@FreedomTeam6 Because whats meant by that is by having a larger engine you can generate more low end torque with much more reliability, lots of my friends drive DSM's and shit and they crank 30 psi in their cars and make the same power as my supercharged mustang but they also rebuild their shit every month almost and ive got around 50,000 miles on my supercharged motor with not a single problem, so can tuners make the power? sure...but its not as reliable is all
Chadb89 9 months ago 18
@Chadb89 what about an EVO? lol STI?
jknif35 6 months ago
@jknif35 Actually my good friend owns his own performance shop, not guna say the name cuz he does good work and i dont wana discredit him but his shop got a brand new evo as a demo car and after doing some engine work and tune they made 430hp 380 ft lbs on their dyno and blew the engine just 2 weeks later. Evo and STI are great cars and more reliable but you just cant push those engines to high HP's and expect them to last for years
Chadb89 6 months ago
@Chadb89 im not being a dick when i say this at all. But people run 600-700 hp evo's as daily drivers for years. 400-500 whp evo's are even more common and require no more maintenance than a stock car really. If your friend blew that car up on 430 whp, then he doesn't need to be tuning an Evo. Period. Most evo's on the road are at that range and they don't blow up in two weeks haha. you shouldn't work on things if you don't know how to tune them of course they will blow up.
jknif35 6 months ago
@jknif35 i dont know what kind of experience you have with engines...but look i promise you it cant happen...either do it yourself and show me or find someone because EVERY person ive talked to met or worked with who had an evo, sti, eclipse, honda, acura etc who tried to make big power had issues and broke stuff very often, do you have any idea how much boost, fuel and timing it takes for a 4 cylinder to make 700hp?..let me just say if you get that engine to last 25,000 miles your jesus himself
Chadb89 6 months ago
@Chadb89 about 35 or so psi 1500 or so cc injectors, twin walbro and a gt35r kit. Just took my EVO to mellon racing in mississippi. he has a 720 whp car he DAILY DRIVES and has for years.(2006) idles like a stock want if he wants it to lol. But this is coming from a guy who "doesn't have experience with engines"
jknif35 6 months ago
@jknif35 ok heres my point tho, the thing about cars that make their power from boost is when you drive em around town nice and easy and never even get into boost your running on about 200hp or less the only time that engine makes 720hp is for about half a second at the top of the rpm band with 35psi like you said so yeah he can have a car capable of it and drive around nice and easy no problem but he CANNOT rip on that car day in and day out like you could a NA V8 making 700 hp...always breaks
Chadb89 6 months ago
@Chadb89 im sorry man i just disagree. you can make 600 awhp on a stock evo bottom end all day long. you're gonna have to build the guts out of the stang motor. That being said, the mustang is much less reliable than the stock motor evo in that case to me. Everyone is different i guess. His evo is daily driven 20+ mpg and over well over 600 awhp on pump gas 93 octane. the motor is moderately built but is still a 2.0 at the end of the day. And he rips the car plenty :)
jknif35 6 months ago
@jknif35 but the bottom end isnt whats the problem, the problem is if you want to squeeze 150hp + out of each piston its guna take an insane amount of abuse, the rods, bearings, and other internals are guna have to be beefed the hell up, a stock anything is reliable and how does that make sense....you can make 600hp on a V8 with less mods than a inline 4 so saying youd have to build the shit out of it compared to the evo doesnt make much sense to me.
Chadb89 6 months ago
@Chadb89 if youre talking about building a v8 n/a then you will certainly build it more than the evo. if youre going blown v8 you still need a stand alone return fuel system and not to mention a massive blower set up. All the evo needs really is a big turbo kit, e85, and injectors, and a 70$ fuel pump lol @35psi. No motor build really needed i mean yeah it would last longer but the stock set up would hold out just fine. Maybe a set of head studs and retainers for the cams.
jknif35 6 months ago
@jknif35 Ok i just realized you dont know what your talking about....i have a 97 GT mustang with a vortech blower at 8-9 psi on stock fuel injectors, stock ignition and stock internals making 410 hp now with the stage 2 meth kit bigger injectors and advancing the timing a little bit il be at 530 ish depending on a few things, and thats it, if you think you can put a big turbo and injectors on an evo and make 700hp reliably your insane dude have fun doing that...35psi on stock internals will blow
Chadb89 6 months ago
@Chadb89 I promise you a stock evo 9 with bigger injectors, gt35r turbo kit, e85, and walbro pump, the obvious bolt ons, and maybe some cams just to lope :) will make 650-700 hp. i will side with you and say some head studs would do the car some good but the stock bottom end would hold it.....mellon tuning made 790 awhp and DD's his. It has upgraded internals but thats basically 800 whp. the 550-700 region is doable but i will say 700 hp is on the upper limits of the motor without a build
jknif35 5 months ago
my point is you have a vortech on a gt with some bolt ons..... its a v8 blown car. I have an evo stock motor stock turbo that would walk it haha. Not talking shit just saying its cheaper to mod and don't even tell me that you think the stock gt block will hold more than an evo without a built motor lol
jknif35 5 months ago
@jknif35 dude both ways 600hp is awesome. Im just saying a 600 hp evo honestly is just as safe and driveable and arguably more than a v8. I have two friends with ~650whp kb cobras who drive then alot but not DD. The guy who tuned my car has a 700whp evo he drove everyday for years and got 18-20 mpg.
jknif35 6 months ago
@Chadb89 however you slice it, its all in the individual.
my friend built his Evo to make 700awhp with his own hands and never has had an issue. he is now running low 10's on e85 and he daily drives it on 93octane getting about 24mpg.
full weight with a small audio system, and ice cold a/c. he bought the car with 13k miles...... his current setup has been reliable for the last 40k miles. the car now has 64k miles.....
and its on the original stock motor
i think your logic is is a bit wrong
rotor13 5 months ago
@rotor13 Dude this is pointless, for one stop saying stock motor, is it the original BLOCK (shell) sure but internals to the ying yang are forged and built to make 700 hp and btw E85 holds more moisture than gasoline and it eats through steel fuel lines quickly so i hope he enjoys that....and ask your friend everything hes had to do to maintain that car cuz if he beats on it at all basic oil changes wont be enough. anyone with a 700hp car can puttz around and make the car last.
Chadb89 5 months ago
@Chadb89 my buddy is running stock internals. the only mods are in the head.
e85 ONLY absorbs moisture if it sits for too long. and he has extensive fuel mods any way including a proefi 128 with flex fuel system.
e85 does not eat through steel. it eats aluminum. and its not as corrosive as you have been made to think.
rotor13 5 months ago
@rotor13 Look it up the moisture rusts the fuel lines from the inside out unless you replace em all, it literally says it if you look it up....gasoline diesel they all absorb moisture but E85 does it more than them all, flex fuel vehicles have diff fuel lines.....700hp on stock crank rods and pistons is bullshit
Chadb89 5 months ago
@Chadb89 car built after the late 90's have their fuel systems treated with anti corrosion processes and coatings built in.
MANY people have tested the corrosive nature of ethanol..... taking a hardline or hose fuel line and letting it sit over the course of 3 weeks... no rust, no pitting, no etching, rubber not eaten away.
The misconception is that you NEED to upgrade your fuel system.... you dont. you just need a recalibration of the ECU.
rotor13 5 months ago
@Chadb89 And you can call bullshit on my buddies stock bottom end Evo9 making 700hp all you want all day and night.... but there are PLENTY of videos out there of stock block evos pulling between 500-800hp on stock bottom ends with nothing more than mild headwork and decently thick headgasket.
AND he makes the 700hp running 37psi of boost on a 6262.
rotor13 5 months ago
@Chadb89 Diesel is not at all corrosive..... the additives in diesel, which are mostly lubrication and sulfur reducers makes it impossible for diesel to rust.
i've had diesel sit in my grandfathers truck for almost 2 years because he was restricted to a wheel chair, and the only BAD thing that happened was that it took about 10 cranks to start up. and had NO issues pushing the 60+ psi it was modified to.
rotor13 5 months ago
@Chadb89 just get your head outta your ass and do the research for yourself..... forget the "lab tests" and pay attention to the REAL WORLD tests. because you forget, people talk about ethanol and its corrosiveness with PURE ethanol.... it has completely different properties when mixed with 15% gasoline.
rotor13 5 months ago
@Chadb89 my neighbors been through 3 civics in the past year and a half and my mustang is still strong with the exception of getting new tires and fixing my ac
cskater18 6 months ago
@cskater18 exactly man see you get it haha
Chadb89 6 months ago
@Chadb89 the problem is not the displacement.... its the tune..... if your friends' dsm's are getting rebuilt every month then something is TERRIBLY wrong with either their parts selection and/or their tuning.
i've had my FD rx7 making 450hp/380tq on 93 for the last 2 years logging in about 25k miles and not one problem at all.
a comment like yours is a two-way street. just because what you see as small is less, can also mean that big is less to someone else, its all in the experience as well
rotor13 5 months ago
@rotor13 thats all well and fine but this other guy is saying a 700hp evo is a daily driver you can woop on and still get 30,000 miles out of AT LEAST .... im calling bullshit...Buschur racing out of ohio the guys who HOST the DSM shootout has had their car at the track the last 3 years ive gone and every year it breaks after 5 or 6 runs and it made 730 hp one year and 800 somthing the following two, my point?..They are a PERFORMANCE TUNING SHOP if it happens to them it will happen 2 u
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