The 7 Characteristics of Hell (Based on Near Death Experiences)

[Ejet1223]

God doesn't seem that holy, when he banishes people into eternal hell fire just for not believing in him. You could be the kindest person in the world, and get sent to hell just for not believing in a god? That seems just about batshit crazy to me.

[alyosha24601]

@Ejet1223 Sounds crazy to me too. That's not why he does it. He does it because he rightly evaluates us as evil - and also WANTING TO REMAIN EVIL. "Believing in him" is tied up with change. If we want to change, if we see what we are and don't like it, he will rescue us. Most folks tell him to buzz off, not because they want a hell, but because they like to run their own lives, and that means "evil" unfortunately. All of us. Who hasn't lied, stolen, lusted, hurt someone at least once?

[RDD756]

this is bullshit... you cant take pictures of it. people never know what hell even fucking looks like. of there even IS one. >_>

[alyosha24601]

@RDD756 You are correct. The whole subject lies at the very edge of our perception, and science can't get to it at all. Still, there are so many many anecdotal accounts occurring just at the moment of death, in addition to a few very detailed accounts from near death experiences. The biblical account matches these descriptions. I even have a friend whose cousin's father-in-law asked for his relatives to put out a fire "in his hospital room" that he saw the very moment he died! Could it be hell?

[pleasereason]

@alyosha24601

Actually science CAN get to "it all" in these cases. It's called a DMT trip. Your brain releases a massive amount of the stuff in near death circumstance, and also to a lesser degree in sleep.

There has been extensive research by a few people in this area, and the evidence strongly suggests that DMT is largely responsible for alien abductions, out of body experiences, heaven and hell experiences, etc.

[pleasereason]

@alyosha24601

That's not to say there isn't a soul. But the idea of heaven and hell with god responsible is both appalling and unreasonable. I'm sorry but I've experienced this. I also have two friends, brothers, who died for minutes each. There isn't a heaven or a hell. There is a place with unimaginable potential, that cannot be pegged by a black/white view of heaven and hell. You can make it hell, you can let it be heaven. And that's the best way to put it as words don't do the trick.

[alyosha24601]

@RDD756 Just keep pretending that there is no justice in the universe and then find out for sure once it's too late! Good strategy! (Insert evil laughter here!)

[HypaSonicDeathMonkey]

Characteristic eight: copious amounts of bullshit.

[alyosha24601]

@HypaSonicDeathMonkey So, I take it you've been to hell and back and therefore speak with authority? Thank you for another statement of religious belief, but I prefer evidence. My evidence is NDEs here. If you have evidence, please reply, but no more religious remarks without evidence please.

[HypaSonicDeathMonkey]

@alyosha24601

Hurm. Nope. Have a nice day. :D

[HypaSonicDeathMonkey]

@alyosha24601

Oh, and just for clarification? Anecdotes do not and have never counted as scientific evidence. You seem to be having a bit of a problem there.

[alyosha24601]

@HypaSonicDeathMonkey How do you explain someone who is unconscious on a hospital bed, but can recount a conversation that occurred at the same time in another part of the building? Your naturalism does not hold up.

[pleasereason]

@alyosha24601

evidence and perception are not the same thing. the fact that you use that as your justification, and also are an opponent of post-modernism is XD XD XD awesome.

[alyosha24601]

@HypaSonicDeathMonkey You'll find out for sure one second after your death. In the mean time, keep pretending there is no justice in the universe so you can keep on believing and doing whatever you want!

[EmbraceWithin]

why the hell is this a response to Guns n' Roses's Paradise City???

[alyosha24601]

@EmbraceWithin Because hard rockers always seem to have more interest in hell. Can you tell me why?

[CntthnkO15]

NDE are the brains way of coping with the fear, a little psychology for you.

[alyosha24601]

@CntthnkO15 It's a little harder to write off the incidents where unconscious patients have recounted conversations at the operating table, or even in adjoining rooms. People possess a spirit - we're not just meat and chemicals.

[CntthnkO15]

@alyosha24601 All that says is the mind wasn't sleeping, just the body was. Does not mean you can go around making shit up by saying it was a spirit. That's called being delusional.

[alyosha24601]

@CntthnkO15 It's delusional to claim a spiritual nature when an unconscious hospital patient later recounts a conversation, event, or object a hundred feet away? I'd say if these things really happen, that your materialistic, naturalistic worldview is seriously in error. You need to align with reality. Of course, if they are not happening anywhere on the globe, then sure, I am delusional. Yes, if there are no miracles, no God, no knowledge of the future, etc., then I need to join the party!

[CntthnkO15]

@alyosha24601 All that says is the mind wasn't sleeping, just the body was. Does not mean you can go around making shit up by saying it was a spirit. What I said still stands... Nice little tangent you went on there though. THE MIND IS AWAKE, THE BODY IS PARALYZED. This is called a lucid dream or NDE. You can purposefully induce yourself to either of these things. It is quite easy, YouTube it. I bet you'll love it, MAGIC, haha.

[alyosha24601]

@CntthnkO15 Look, I'm not mad at you, I'm not just trying to argue, but just let me point out the logic: A person's mind may be awake, but how is it possible to recount an event that happened on another floor of a building? You can dream but you can't accurately relate an event you were not there to observe. This is exactly what witnesses relate. I don't think you are just chemicals and electricity CntthnkO - you have an eternal spirit.

[CntthnkO15]

@alyosha24601 Being a skeptic, I wouldn't believe nonsense like that for a second. Just like any of that UFO bullshit, the crap the media feeds you, accepting Jesus will get you a one way ticket to Heaven after you're dead, blah blah. No thank you, you got some proof? I'd love to see it.

[alyosha24601]

@CntthnkO15 How about fulfilled prophecy in the Bible? Only God predicts the future accurately. If you recognized that certain predictions were made and fulfilled regarding the future, would you be shaken and ask God for mercy? What sort of proof would you accept?

[CntthnkO15]

@alyosha24601 If everything in the bible was 100% true, I'd believe it. Anyone can make guesses and say I'm right if they get one out of a hundred correct. And show me all the prophecies that came true. And it doesn't prove God's existence because the contradictions in the creation story wouldn't allow God to exist. Unless God lied in the bible about how the earth was created, or made a mistake or something like that; but God doesn't make mistakes, he is all knowing, all powerful, omnipresent...

[alyosha24601]

@CntthnkO15 There are prophecies in the Bible that were fulfilled 2500 years after they were made to the exact day! I know of three of them. Hundreds of exact prophecies, not including those about the future, which you're about to see. There is even an amazing code beneath the text, and a "web" of sevens, in addition to other mathematics. I've been studying the Bible 40 years, have a Master's in OT, and still find more and more. It's there, but your heart isn't ready. You won't see it.

[CntthnkO15]

@alyosha24601 My heart isn't ready? What the fuck. Why don't you just say, I'm not delusional enough to fall for any of that bullshit. And you haven't shown me any proof of these hundreds of prophecies. And still, the creation story is bullshit and you haven't honestly responded to that yet.

[alyosha24601]

@CntthnkO15 I take a lot of time every day to answer objections. Yours are not unique nor especially difficult. I have studied prophecy for 40 years and can indeed show you some amazing proofs. I can also explain creation - just read some of the hundreds of posts on my channel, I know my science.But when I read your comments, I can just tell you don't really want to know. I'm not being mean, I just feel like you're looking for another Christian to bash. You won't hear God till you really want to

[CntthnkO15]

@alyosha24601 40 FUCKING YEARS AND YOU STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF CONTRADICTION? What that tells me is you wasted 40 years of your life on magic and that I should stay away from anything along the lines of prophecy. Thanks, I didn't think you would help, but you did.

[CntthnkO15]

You're saying all this like you have been there... No one has obviously been there, all this is just fed to you to scare you into believing their delusional bullshit. Grow up and think for yourself. Question the unknowable.

[alyosha24601]

@Mirewood God is restricted by justice. There has to be justice in the universe. And God disagrees with your evaluation. He would ask you a question like, "Have you ever even thought of something wrong?" On the other hand he has a plan to rescue us. I lived in a Buddhist country for nine years. I can tell you your romantic notion of Buddhist monks is inaccurate! All people are self-centered and potentially insidious in the right circumstances. The trick is to see God's perspective, not ours.

[alyosha24601]

@Mirewood God has a very different perspective than we do. Our ideas of "good" and "bad" are based on comparison with each other, so in practice we all just compare ourselves to Hitler and conclude we are "good". God isn't like that. He has a different way of evaluating us, of approaching us, and of helping us, but he demands we accept his logic. We can not simplistically conclude we are "good" and he is "bad" then expect his favor. If you want to hear more, I'm here. Cheers!

[groundrunner752]

1) WTF, why is this a response to Crazy Train of all things? 2) NDE's mean jack squat. People who have had an NDE report all sorts of different experiences even those of different religions who see their own personal version of Heaven/Hell and not necessarily the Judeo-Christian version. 3) Seriously this is nothing but a scare tactic to believe in freakin nonsense.

[alyosha24601]

@groundrunner752 I'm just reporting and summarizing other people's reports - I freely admit that I have never visited hell myself. And finally, since you are not God yourself, since you are just speculating using your own religious view, what you actually mean to say is, "I HOPE this is freakin nonsense!" (Scream here for effect!)

Thanks for your exciting Youtube commentary!

[motogriso1]

oh I see it is StupidFlix. good one

[alyosha24601]

@motogriso1 Yes. I think it's better if we all just keep up play time and try to forget about "Stupidflix" - at least as long as we can.

[HUNDuffman]

@alyosha24601 What if i am afraid of not existing at all, and the fact that i have to exist to suffer reassures me? God is supposed to know that if he exists... you suck

[alyosha24601]

@HUNDuffman What if? You can tell by trying an experiment: turn the burner on your stove to "high" then turn around, hop right up on your seat and then start partying! No, there is justice in the universe, despite what we want or pretend. I encourage you to grit your teeth and get serious with your creator.

[HUNDuffman]

@alyosha24601 I am serious with my parents

[alyosha24601]

@HUNDuffman God is your parents. You didn't come from some oceanic goo - you were made in the image of God and he wants to reconcile with you. I encourage you to take a month and look into these issues deeply. And God has his own ways of responding. You'll see it if you give him a chance.

[HUNDuffman]

@alyosha24601 If you are a good man, it is because you have been promised that if you are good, you will go to heaven after death. But if you werent being promised something, why would you be good at all? Your goodness is insincere, and you live in it so much that you are not even feeling its insincerety. If i do something good, then that was because i was raised to be empathic and helpful. And its not my fault that i cant be convinced of gods existance: he cant punish me for that if he exists.

[alyosha24601]

@HUNDuffman No, I'm not good at all! In fact, most every thought I have is self-serving and often plain ugly. Sure I look "good" on the outside, but people can't see inside. I need rescue. As for "its not my fault: ...he cant punish me for that if he exists." that God that just might exist does indeed plan to punish. He gives you one (humiliating) escape to help you escape the mess, but it's his plan, never yours. Again, I urge you to set aside your own logic for a month, just to investigate his

[alyosha24601]

@thegiftworld Not so. God reveals himself as a God of "Justice and Mercy" in Ps. 103. He represents himself as both a God of love, but also a God of truth and judgment. The idea of the "Santa Claus" God is a modern invention - it is not biblical. I'll tell you something else about God - his characteristics have nothing to do with what WE think of him. We don't change him; he wants to change us. // Oh my, I must go to bed giftworld or my wife will pop me! Nighty-night!

[alyosha24601]

@thegiftworld What is it you object to? I think everything I have presented is thoroughly biblical. I hope so.

If you got hit by a bus today, what would happen to you? Heaven, hell, nothingness, reincarnation? I am happy to attempt biblical answers. I know the Bible pretty well if you have questions. I don't like the devil by the way; I hope I am not helping him!

[alyosha24601]

@thegiftworld Seriously, are you drunk? I'm not quite sure what you're talking about!

Well, thanks for visiting; I hope your new career as God works out!

[alyosha24601]

@thegiftworld (No, if you were God, you wouldn't keep spelling prophet wrongly.)

I think my message is basically just biblical; I don't believe I've added any twist of my own. Have you ever read the Bible? I'm just parroting the Bible - it has the authority, not me. I'm just a normal guy with lots of problems.

[jay1jayf]

well played sir.... science using fear to control people since day 6

[alyosha24601]

@jay1jayf I don't want to control them - I want to save them! What do you want?

[jay1jayf]

@alyosha24601 sorry for going ahead of myself.... but in history Religion has been use to control the people and fear is known as one of the most prominent tactics so i made my conclusions, i have a conflicted feelings about it because i personally see how its just a myth but also can see how it can be another person's life.

[alyosha24601]

@jay1jayf You are right, religions will always be used for control. But take a step outside yourself and try not to picture "a religion" but rather "a creator". From his perspective, it really doesn't matter what conclusions or ideas men have about him. It doesn't matter how people use their religions for control. If there really is a creator, and logic demands a creator precede a creation, all that matters (his perspective) is that you connect with him and line up with his thinking.

[alyosha24601]

@jay1jayf My point is - it's not about us. If there is a creator, we have to find him. Life is a sort of courtship. God wants us to choose him, but he doesn't want to coerce us. It's like a young man attempting to woo a certain girl. He wants that girl to choose him, but he cannot force her. Openly displaying power or riches is also kind of force. God won't do it, and that's why he doesn't get much respect from the world. He never interferes with our will. But he can indeed answer us.

[tunglour]

OH YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD OH YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL AND SUFFER FOR ALL ETERNITY OR SOME SAY CEASE EXISTING OH GOD LOVES US SO MUCH

[alyosha24601]

@tunglour Yes, I'm certain there is no justice or accountability in the universe. Just keep doing whatever you want - I'm sure it will all work out for you. Just try not to think about it.