Or just put capacitors in series, that way you didn't shunt anything, and added tons of back pressures. Each capacitors constant slows the signal down until you get one deep cold cranking amperage. A car stereo just uses one, creating back pressure on the battery side, but the time constants of many slow the power back to the battery and heat up the overunity side.
Hi, l have built the lawton and RE-BUILT the lawton circuit . Over and over again,,Check my componet values ect. I really havent seen that much improvement in production over any of the other PWM I have built and put to test Including the LM324 units and mod's So if you can,,,, I would like to try your circuit but can't quite make it out on the screen/monitor. can you tell or send me via e-mail a schematic+componet list? I have built/wound the Rodin coil &Mods as well Thanks
@hhoforvolts Hi Richard ! finally found a way to reach you!,,,tried thee e-mail address but dosent seem to go thru,, you can mail me at Edlipton88@yahoo.com and then I will "for security reason's" give you my ISP address,, had been having virus's hitting me and REALLY giving me a bad time here on this computor, down all wk end, Thanks Richard, Ed
The link to the circuit use to be in the info box but is gone, and now I can't add it. I will send it to you by P.M. I have had as hi as 1700% with different setups.
Believe it or not as a small child, I put a paper clip into a light socket and I still have the scare on my right index finger............We learn by many failures
@hhoforvolts would like to see some improvement in my effort too increase HHO production. Have tried many many PWM's and modifications but haven't been able to get past 30% improvemennt over orig MPG's. Lawton units ect. Haven't tried the Boyce yet and may well tackle that as well, could you please e-mail the schems& componet values to your circuit Please. Or tell me where too find it? It dosent show up well enough on the monitor to eliminate chance. Thanks Ed
Power supplys are are real problem, I'm running off a 12 v acid battery feed by a 75 amp charger converter, just got some of the parts in your circut, still waiting on back order of Damd Fast Diodes, want to triger 3 fets to go thru a cascade of 1,2 hrz pulses, only found 1 ferrite rod so far, were did you get yours, and is ferrite the only good core for frequency ? Thanx
The reason I ask, is because I have heard that certain coils can interfere with some reading instruments. If the current is a mix of both ac and dc, the instruments might have trouble giving a proper value. But It is not my purpose to be a "partybreaker" here!
You have found something interesting and it should be investigated more! I just think that is is more proof of energy gains in a system if it can do some kind of practical work, perhaps light up a lightbulb or run a fan. Good luck!
Good question.early on I made AC bypass filters for the current shunts to filter out any AC signal, no change. I have used true analog meters too and no change. The meter inside the power supply also shows the same as the supply current meter. Now here's the kicker, bring the tuning way out of the resonance point and the meters are the same. With the new circuit any draw higher then 3.9amp the over unity drops and at 12.4 amp it is 1:1, no over unity. Read chapter 10.pdf about lighting a bulb
Ok the current draw with a amp meter in the 12 volt feed from the power supply is 0.450 amps, ithats 5.4 watts. Rod Buck converter and HHO cell are in series placed across the 12 volts source. The amp meter is located between the cell and the Rod Buck converter circuit. That amp meter reads 3.9 amps. Total watts are 46.8. Voltage across cell is 2.5 volts. Cell is consuming 3.9 watts. Total Rod Buck over unity current draw is 3.9 / 0.45 = 867% You would expect it to be same on both meters.
So it is the rod buck that gets the most energy from the cirquit then? What can the rod buck be used to do? I am just curious :-) Is it possible to connect another HHO unit across the rod buck to get more gas total?
As with the Bedini motor you are limited on what you can do with the BEMF. What I think I should do is build a current limiter for the power supply, setting it to a resistive load for 0.45 amps. I think that may settle the question. You can add more cells across, but there is a point where the circuit will over heat. I want to add one on more delayed one shots to energise the rod or rods when the MOSfet is off for more current. Thanks for all of your good questions.
Or just put capacitors in series, that way you didn't shunt anything, and added tons of back pressures. Each capacitors constant slows the signal down until you get one deep cold cranking amperage. A car stereo just uses one, creating back pressure on the battery side, but the time constants of many slow the power back to the battery and heat up the overunity side.
ftlqed 4 months ago
8xA circuit is the way to go
theoneagain 5 months ago
Hi, l have built the lawton and RE-BUILT the lawton circuit . Over and over again,,Check my componet values ect. I really havent seen that much improvement in production over any of the other PWM I have built and put to test Including the LM324 units and mod's So if you can,,,, I would like to try your circuit but can't quite make it out on the screen/monitor. can you tell or send me via e-mail a schematic+componet list? I have built/wound the Rodin coil &Mods as well Thanks
Eddlipton 1 year ago
@Eddlipton I don't know what happen to my posted circuit, it used to be HD.
E-mail me at rfmmars@cox.cox for the lastest.
Richard
hhoforvolts 1 year ago
@hhoforvolts Hi Richard, I have been having "computor problems" AGAIN !!,
Have since tried to send you e-mail and it dosent go through, you can send me a e-mail at; edlipton88@yahoo.com and will go from there via "reply".
Thanks, Is this Thee "Ainsle circuit or a modified version?' Anxiously awaiting your response, Thank you in advance Ed
Eddlipton 1 year ago
@hhoforvolts Hi Richard ! finally found a way to reach you!,,,tried thee e-mail address but dosent seem to go thru,, you can mail me at Edlipton88@yahoo.com and then I will "for security reason's" give you my ISP address,, had been having virus's hitting me and REALLY giving me a bad time here on this computor, down all wk end, Thanks Richard, Ed
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graywackeknifebdr 1 year ago
when will you post the 800% circuit !
vid009 2 years ago
The link to the circuit use to be in the info box but is gone, and now I can't add it. I will send it to you by P.M. I have had as hi as 1700% with different setups.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
iF you put a paper clip in a wall socket what have you learned ? Thank God for us whom survive curiosity and benefited.
hgraphs 2 years ago
Believe it or not as a small child, I put a paper clip into a light socket and I still have the scare on my right index finger............We learn by many failures
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
@hhoforvolts would like to see some improvement in my effort too increase HHO production. Have tried many many PWM's and modifications but haven't been able to get past 30% improvemennt over orig MPG's. Lawton units ect. Haven't tried the Boyce yet and may well tackle that as well, could you please e-mail the schems& componet values to your circuit Please. Or tell me where too find it? It dosent show up well enough on the monitor to eliminate chance. Thanks Ed
Eddlipton 1 year ago
hi,
are you part of the b-hex group?
paul
oddssodds 2 years ago
I don't understand, need more info.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
He's talking about the "Bob Boyce Hex-Controler" group.
I sure wish I could get my hands on the Hex-Controler..... I know it would realy do some cool things with the Rodin Coil.
mikepowers420 2 years ago
Power supplys are are real problem, I'm running off a 12 v acid battery feed by a 75 amp charger converter, just got some of the parts in your circut, still waiting on back order of Damd Fast Diodes, want to triger 3 fets to go thru a cascade of 1,2 hrz pulses, only found 1 ferrite rod so far, were did you get yours, and is ferrite the only good core for frequency ? Thanx
llewgnal 2 years ago
I got the rods from the Ukrane..see ebay. You can use 6" rods, 17ga wire.
Damm fast diodes are also known as Shckelly diodes, you can get some for now from old PC power supply.
I have used up to 12KZ with these rods.
Good luck
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
The reason I ask, is because I have heard that certain coils can interfere with some reading instruments. If the current is a mix of both ac and dc, the instruments might have trouble giving a proper value. But It is not my purpose to be a "partybreaker" here!
You have found something interesting and it should be investigated more! I just think that is is more proof of energy gains in a system if it can do some kind of practical work, perhaps light up a lightbulb or run a fan. Good luck!
2550osiosterdalen 2 years ago
Good question.early on I made AC bypass filters for the current shunts to filter out any AC signal, no change. I have used true analog meters too and no change. The meter inside the power supply also shows the same as the supply current meter. Now here's the kicker, bring the tuning way out of the resonance point and the meters are the same. With the new circuit any draw higher then 3.9amp the over unity drops and at 12.4 amp it is 1:1, no over unity. Read chapter 10.pdf about lighting a bulb
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
Interesting. I sometime wish I was an electrician to understand more of schematics... :-)
2550osiosterdalen 2 years ago
When you say 800% overunity, what exactly is 8 times better than "normal"? Is it HHO, or more watts than you put in, or something else??
2550osiosterdalen 2 years ago
Ok the current draw with a amp meter in the 12 volt feed from the power supply is 0.450 amps, ithats 5.4 watts. Rod Buck converter and HHO cell are in series placed across the 12 volts source. The amp meter is located between the cell and the Rod Buck converter circuit. That amp meter reads 3.9 amps. Total watts are 46.8. Voltage across cell is 2.5 volts. Cell is consuming 3.9 watts. Total Rod Buck over unity current draw is 3.9 / 0.45 = 867% You would expect it to be same on both meters.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
So it is the rod buck that gets the most energy from the cirquit then? What can the rod buck be used to do? I am just curious :-) Is it possible to connect another HHO unit across the rod buck to get more gas total?
2550osiosterdalen 2 years ago
As with the Bedini motor you are limited on what you can do with the BEMF. What I think I should do is build a current limiter for the power supply, setting it to a resistive load for 0.45 amps. I think that may settle the question. You can add more cells across, but there is a point where the circuit will over heat. I want to add one on more delayed one shots to energise the rod or rods when the MOSfet is off for more current. Thanks for all of your good questions.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
So in simple terms the gains comes from BEMF and resonance? But it is probably more complicated than that... :-)
2550osiosterdalen 2 years ago
Maybe but please read "Chapter9.pdf" and "Chapter10.pdf" by Patrick J. Lewis" for more insight. Always keep your B.S. filter finely tuned.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
do you have the link to these chaper9 and 10 pdf searched google and nothing jumps out. PJL was a childerns book writer.
XRRep 2 years ago
Good bloody *GODS* you're funny! Thank you.
Desertphile 2 years ago
Thanks for the nicest response you ever posted. Maybe there's hope for you after all.
Richard
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
You're welcome. If you put on a big red nose, it would complete your clown act.
Desertphile 2 years ago
So the 3.9 amps your seeing comming out of the cell is the electrons from the decompposition of the water molecules. right?
XRRep 2 years ago