There's no doubt that you can hear Sid's bass clearly on this one. Basic, but it's there. It can be heard throughtout this gig, especially on "Bodies", when Jones' guitar lead came out. They tended to turn the bass amp down or even off for most of their US gigs and poor old Sid was usually so smacked off his tits that he didn't even realise.
The song is clearly ironic: Rotten goes "guess who's dead, guess who's glad...so glad" with moral rage, pointing the finger at us gawping at the horror of cheapened life - why not just kill yourself?
im sorry but belsen was a gas is the easiest song to play on bass. i learned it by ear. but i have disagree with everyone saying sidd couldnt play bass. he could play.. just not in the beginning. he taught himself like steve and paul. eventually he was able to hold a beat. but stilll he couldnt play on stage for alot of concerts cause he was so drugged up.
Nope, no dumb-fuck skinhead anthem here. Sorry to disappoint you, but the Sex Pistols (yes, even Sid) were polar opposites from Nazis. Although Nazis, like the Black Panthers, have a right to their opinions... The Sex Pistols wanted to shock, and that they did... jolted England and everyone else out of their happy post-hippie complacency...
Nope, no dumb-fuck skinhead anthem here. Sorry to disappoint you, but the Sex Pistols (yes, even Sid) were polar opposites from Nazis. Although Nazis, like the Black Panthers, have a right to their opinions...
`sid was a allright bass player i dont know why people say he cant play bass fucking bulshit sid could play he just messed around to much but he still played u can hear the bass playing in this whole concert just the sound mix was fucked on most of there later gigs some of the shit he did on bass looked cool and careless and pure punk thats what it was about !! there should be more bands like this in the world
@PBANDSNOW That's because the verb is "hear" not "here"... here is where you should learn something about expresing yourself and then learn something about punk rock history too... Syd was the punk rock generation icon even without playing a single note... if you want to hear great musician techniques you surely choose the wrong music kind... because that's not punk rock... punk rock is simple... three tones and all the rage and passion you can take from your insides
@MauroCanteros ur right, i just noticed i spelt it wrong, though to be perfectly honest i dont give a rats ass. I can hear his bass, please realize that that long thing you wrote literally makes no sense when it comes to what i wrote
No one could inject the sheer ferociousness along with melody into music the way the Sex Pistols could, not even the heaviest of the "evil" heavy metal bands...
@Casperthedopestghost mmm...not quite. I saw the Dead kennedys at Coffman Union at the University of Minnesota in 1983. They could be as scary as the Sex Pistols, but not quite as musically ferocious. I saw the Sex Pistols live in 1996 in Milwaukee. One of the best concerts I have ever been to.
@Casperthedopestghost mmm...not quite. I saw the Dead Kennedys at Coffman Union at the University of Minnesota in 1983. They could be as scary as the Sex Pistols, but not quite as musically ferocious. I saw the Sex Pistols live in 1996 in Milwaukee. One of the best concerts I have ever been to.
sid was more talented than what he wanted people to know, he was a great painter and he wrote many poems....he played guitar and drums before then he went on to bass so he could join the pistols. he just liked to say he was shit at everything...he even wrote this song, chords included....been reading a book abotu him recently you see
@boffinme80 i agree with u, and i also thinks its interesting that when youtubers think of sid they attribute him to Heroin, bad bass, nancy and him being this stone cold dude. Sid was actually a kind and loving person...before nancy
@boffinme80 Dont forget Joe Strummer, Joey ramone, iggy pop, alice cooper. And anyways the pistols were steve, paul, wally nightengale, and malcolm. Sid and Johnny simply filled the space. Though i agree with u completly.
theyr whole set sucked that day,totally uninspired but this song just killed it!best version i ever heard,i guess they were tired of playing the same old songs
Belsen was a gas, I heard the other day In the open graves where the Jews all lay "Life is fun and I wish you were here" they wrote on postcards to those held dear.
everything you people say about the pistols and all rock stars is like reading one of those sick sad gossip mags...get a fuckin life..none of you know anything about them and more importantly why would you want to...get a grip!!!!
Yes. When they came to an overblown end I was hypnotised by the hype to a cringe-worthy degree. To admire something is not the same as hoping that it will rub off on you by obsessing over details - especially if that something is authenticity. That's a cliche I still don't really know the truth of but I've got some clues. In my own boring opinion, when they lost Glen their style lost some of it's substance. Style was an important part of them, but you need different elements sometimes.
i got into the pistols when i was 12-13 in 1978 when the pistols were nearly over but i knew fuck all about them apart from that bollocks was cool...i hope youre not one of them who says !i saw the pistols" lol...very very few people saw the pistols...
dude i didnt mean to offend you i just hear people who say they saw the pistols..i even heard a guy say he saw the pistols...hes 4 years younger than me plus hes a knob and simply didnt...why oh why??? the reason i got into punk at such an early age was that my cousin who is 4 years older got me into punk...and guess what? he really did see the pistols at some place in manchester called the electric circus i thinkhe really did do as well..he said there were not that many there...
Don't worry, no offence . My own issues over getting punk wrong!. I do still genuinely some of the punk bands. I think the pistols probably had a natural shelf life but it could have been handled better. What do I know though? Don't answer! It's weird, I knew kids who liked them at 11 and some thought it was over in 1978.
I think you almost either had to be so clued up that you were part of the scene, or just in the right place at the right time to have seen the pistols live.
I removed my 1st reply because I put lol and I wasn't really lol-ing, I find my cluelessness too depressing :) I was in a similar boat to you but believed a lot of bollocks that McLaren, Julie Burchill (who's admitted she was talking shit) said about them. I Glen Matlock not only contributed more creatively but they already had the hooligan element and didn't need Sid. That's all based on reading and tv of course. You're right just to like the music. Image is great but going on and on kills it.
one of my top 5 pistols songs. simple but very effective . sid played well at this gig no matter how fucked up he was (allegedly he took smack beforehand) wich made john think fuck this i,ve had enough. cos he was trying to keep sid away from that shit all through the american tour. the pistols thought this winterland show was one of the worst they,d done. but i think they sound fuckin great. watch the filth and the fury for the full story on this.
if sid had of got his smack he wouldnt be able to fukn see what wrong with u he wudve passed out and he didnt take smack before this gig he played the whole gig fuk u idiot BrasilNYC fukn retard
wtf is tht brasilnyc dickhead on about. so fucking wot if he couldnt wots ur problem, glen matlocxk wos a fucking faggot that went to college the pistols wouldnt sound the same with out sid he was the agressive factor . u fuckin yankee twat go fuck yourself and die cunt
Steve Jones is playing killer rock and roll on this unusual song, doing head and body gyrations in sync with his flourishes on the riffs. Syd does indeed seems to be playing and he's tight with group, keeping pace with Cook; Rotten's singing brings it all together, I mean when he sings "guess whos dead" it is absolutely scabrous like hes firing nails and spikes from his throat, he really conveys the horror that song seems to be scratching at.
Sid couldn't play......what's this, all of two chords? I could learn that today and be playin the gig tonight. Must be he got his smack that day. Watch the last gig at Winterland......Sid was a fuckin' toss pot. Should have never booted Matlock and maybe theyd've done another album. Fuck McLaren too......fuckin' waste of egg and sperm that sod
@straiber It was Sid. Sid's drug abuse was Sid. Plus, it doesn't even matter, his drugs. HE KICKED ASS. They all did. Lots of people do drugs and people don't go around blaming it on others. I do them. It's me. It was Sid himself. And He ROCKED
this is the dogs bollox,absolute brilliance,its a shame he can't perform like this now instead of advertising butter,ho dear ho dear belsen was a gas.
Sid couldn't play well as heard in Dallas but Johnny Rotten wanted Sid for his bad boy image and attitude. However, if you listen to the final concert at the Wintergreen he's not so trashed and you can clearly hear him playing. It's like he finally learned the songs at the very end. Sid you did your best RIP.
It was called Winterland. According to Johnny, this last concert was the one and only concert during the American tour that Sid was playing under the influence of heroin. (So John said in the book Rotten). Its a good sound.
Do you mean that Sid was completly on drugs during the gig in San Francisco? If my brain is still working good, the only gig where Malcom MacLaren was here was in Winterland!
On the first page - 'One of the reasons I stayed w/ Sid on the bus during the American tour...was to keep him away from drugs...The minute we hit San Francisco, somehow or other, Sid managed to escape and get himself a whole parcel of heroin...that buggered him up. Totally. As a result, dear reader, the Winterland show was a disaster." I dont know if that meant he was completely on drugs.
As far as Malcolm being there, supposedly Malcolm was uninvolved, flew on a plane with only
ok i didn't know that, and it's very interesting. I don't know if Winterland was really a disaster, it's just a strange gig, where any mumbers of the band are on their own trip. Steve sometimes stopped to play, leaving Sid alone with Paul Cook (at the end of "bodies" and on "liar") It's easy to say but we can feel that the sex pistols were not the same.
Yes, I agree with you. and I believe its fair to say we can never know what in John's mind made it a disaster. To me it is a great concert but one that is heavy with an ominous mystery. And that, of course is only one thing that makes it different, (though they were all different). I also read a supposed phone conversation that Sid gave a reporter a few days later in which he asked 'John wasnt too good was he?' meaning in the last concert. Thats how they saw it. Truly, it was so long ago...
I saw this interview too, i really don't know if it's true or not. A few days later, Johnny wanted to reform the sex pistols without Sid and Malcom MacLaren but Steve Jones refused... I supposed that Steve was influenced by Malcom at the time. Too bad. If i must keep one gig of the sex pistols, it's in San Antonio. Johnny sang with rage, Sid was out of control and Steve too. A real punk gig. I got it on LP but the sound is not very good.
Yes, from what I gather Steve and Paul both thought Malcolm wanted only the best for them at the time. John said that the relationship between he and Steve was horrible at that time. The division was deep. I agree with you on that with San Antonio. It does stand out. So much emotion and energy. All powers in synch :-)
I would have loved to have heard the outrage this song caused back in the day.
LexL94 1 month ago
Ironically Sid was a big Bowie fan, and Lydon actually quite liked Pink Floyd, and I won't even mention the Utterly Butterly adverts.
lynus111 1 month ago
I swear there was a cowbell in this song! ;)
Lifeblesser 2 months ago
Sid was more Nancy than Nazi.
The swastikas were just symbolism, flipping the bird to the WWII generation that was running the show back then.
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@SlovakDJH Skinheads have anti-racist movements too, you know.
TheAngryJosh 2 months ago 2
A great song. The song tells about how they were shocked like any all of us about the nazi atrocities.
ookkonaaoulusta 2 months ago
so...Sid was a nazi right?
icantdrawpictures 3 months ago
@icantdrawpictures go back to sleep
meeces13 1 month ago
@icantdrawpictures No. The sex pistols wore swastikas and stuff for shock value. And they succeeded.
MrJohneybgood 3 weeks ago
this was there best song ever.
SuperThegunners 4 months ago
0:06
nch8 4 months ago
Quality !!!!!
weiry1356 4 months ago
"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? Good night."
DcHewlett 4 months ago
sid is so sexy holy fuck.
CherieSimonRitchie 5 months ago 4
I like this music, nice 1000 points
heber78 6 months ago
Sid was useless.
Sirscorps 6 months ago
@Sirscorps No he wasn’t. You can here his bass. He did exactly what he needed to do: nothing.
PBANDSNOW 6 months ago
@PBANDSNOW lol....you win!
Sirscorps 6 months ago
@Sirscorps Thank you. I wanna pony, and a dinosaur, and a time machine, and a new elmo. Lol.
PBANDSNOW 6 months ago
@PBANDSNOW You'll have to settle for Elmo. I'm on disability & can't afford too much in this economy.
Sirscorps 6 months ago
@Sirscorps This isn’t the first time this damn economy has robbed me of a dinosaur!
PBANDSNOW 6 months ago
@PBANDSNOW You know as well as I know that there's no such thing, that's just crazy talk.
Sirscorps 6 months ago
@Sirscorps If you set out to disappoint...
...you succeeded.
PBANDSNOW 6 months ago
@PBANDSNOW I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, lol. Maybe i'll get you a time machine for Xmas.
Sirscorps 6 months ago
@Sirscorps Haha. This is getting stupid now! But seriously, do you not believe in dinosaurs?
PBANDSNOW 6 months ago
@PBANDSNOW No, I was jokin' around. They existed.
/Kudos on the banter, btw.
Sirscorps 6 months ago
@Sirscorps Ya, banter is fun when you have noting better to do!
PBANDSNOW 6 months ago
@PBANDSNOW & while having a "few" bottles of Spotted Cow!!!
Sirscorps 6 months ago
@Sirscorps Haha I wouldn’t know about that, i’m 15 and I live in a very right wing (terrible) household.
PBANDSNOW 6 months ago
There's no doubt that you can hear Sid's bass clearly on this one. Basic, but it's there. It can be heard throughtout this gig, especially on "Bodies", when Jones' guitar lead came out. They tended to turn the bass amp down or even off for most of their US gigs and poor old Sid was usually so smacked off his tits that he didn't even realise.
BigBedunga 6 months ago
The song is clearly ironic: Rotten goes "guess who's dead, guess who's glad...so glad" with moral rage, pointing the finger at us gawping at the horror of cheapened life - why not just kill yourself?
barfcoswill 7 months ago
im sorry but belsen was a gas is the easiest song to play on bass. i learned it by ear. but i have disagree with everyone saying sidd couldnt play bass. he could play.. just not in the beginning. he taught himself like steve and paul. eventually he was able to hold a beat. but stilll he couldnt play on stage for alot of concerts cause he was so drugged up.
firelord276 8 months ago
The song is taking the piss out of the nazis. Dont u get irony?
glynnboo 8 months ago
Nope, no dumb-fuck skinhead anthem here. Sorry to disappoint you, but the Sex Pistols (yes, even Sid) were polar opposites from Nazis. Although Nazis, like the Black Panthers, have a right to their opinions... The Sex Pistols wanted to shock, and that they did... jolted England and everyone else out of their happy post-hippie complacency...
SlovakDJH 8 months ago 19
Nope, no dumb-fuck skinhead anthem here. Sorry to disappoint you, but the Sex Pistols (yes, even Sid) were polar opposites from Nazis. Although Nazis, like the Black Panthers, have a right to their opinions...
SlovakDJH 8 months ago
@panzermiskolc wow, you totally dont get the song
Casperthedopestghost 9 months ago
Misinterpreted skinhead anthem like it or not. We must CLASH
fastacid714 9 months ago
The band looked and sounded particularly iconic there.
ManilaSyndicate 9 months ago
sid DID write belsen!!!
bobe76 10 months ago
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im pretty sure Sid wrote this song (music or lyrics, not sure, but i know he had some hand in it when he was in Flowers of Romance)
RiotSunsetStrip9 10 months ago
im pretty sure Sid wrote this song (music or lyrics, not sure, but i know he had some hand in it when he was in Flowers of Romance)
RiotSunsetStrip9 10 months ago
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when the sex pistols broke up, the feeling of punk died
firelord276 10 months ago
when the sex pistols ended real punk dies
firelord276 10 months ago
i think i can actually hear some good bass from sid!!!
locolew998 1 year ago
@locolew998 Yeah, me too.
Techlounge 1 year ago
@locolew998 I heard he sat up all night with a Ramones album, learning to play bass, and then the next morning, he could play!
dark3rbol 10 months ago
@locolew998 if you watch the winterland concert when steves lead falls out sid is left playing the bass
tvdxrools 8 months ago
I love sid he was a very big PUNK icon I
hulkerHero 1 year ago
i agree i love thi song
jcthomas521 1 year ago
`sid was a allright bass player i dont know why people say he cant play bass fucking bulshit sid could play he just messed around to much but he still played u can hear the bass playing in this whole concert just the sound mix was fucked on most of there later gigs some of the shit he did on bass looked cool and careless and pure punk thats what it was about !! there should be more bands like this in the world
gungor1985 1 year ago 3
@gungor1985 i can here his bass
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
@PBANDSNOW That's because the verb is "hear" not "here"... here is where you should learn something about expresing yourself and then learn something about punk rock history too... Syd was the punk rock generation icon even without playing a single note... if you want to hear great musician techniques you surely choose the wrong music kind... because that's not punk rock... punk rock is simple... three tones and all the rage and passion you can take from your insides
MauroCanteros 1 year ago
@MauroCanteros ur right, i just noticed i spelt it wrong, though to be perfectly honest i dont give a rats ass. I can hear his bass, please realize that that long thing you wrote literally makes no sense when it comes to what i wrote
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
SEX PISTOLS BESTE BAND TER WERELD
chicagocaam 1 year ago
No one could inject the sheer ferociousness along with melody into music the way the Sex Pistols could, not even the heaviest of the "evil" heavy metal bands...
SlovakDJH 1 year ago 2
@SlovakDJH i know you wrote this a long time ago, but the Dead Kennedys could
Casperthedopestghost 9 months ago
@Casperthedopestghost mmm...not quite. I saw the Dead kennedys at Coffman Union at the University of Minnesota in 1983. They could be as scary as the Sex Pistols, but not quite as musically ferocious. I saw the Sex Pistols live in 1996 in Milwaukee. One of the best concerts I have ever been to.
SlovakDJH 8 months ago
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@Casperthedopestghost mmm...not quite. I saw the Dead Kennedys at Coffman Union at the University of Minnesota in 1983. They could be as scary as the Sex Pistols, but not quite as musically ferocious. I saw the Sex Pistols live in 1996 in Milwaukee. One of the best concerts I have ever been to.
SlovakDJH 8 months ago
easy there best song even better live pure class
MrMichaelsture 1 year ago
It was 1978 ! oh dear oh dear oh dear!
battensoul 1 year ago
lots of bass in this guys, just turn ur fucking ears on
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
@PBANDSNOW fucken ay ,i dig this bass line .fuck the myths
raunchy1313 1 year ago
Long live Sid!! :D And I love you johnny!! <3
KattKeroscene 1 year ago
this movie is the last
live USA 1979
I wanna see more.. thanks
ROGICFACTORY 1 year ago
@ROGICFACTORY 1978 actually
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
Love Johnny's manic laugh.
Fuck heroes ("Join the army,Be a man,kill someone...")
celebrant9 1 year ago
best song they did easy
MrMichaelsture 1 year ago
great band but this is just twaddle
jazyuill1 1 year ago
Belsen was so cool! :(
clementles 1 year ago 3
@clementles it was funny wasn't it ;] , i'd like to pee in those .....
Matefeedkillreknot 1 year ago
sid was more talented than what he wanted people to know, he was a great painter and he wrote many poems....he played guitar and drums before then he went on to bass so he could join the pistols. he just liked to say he was shit at everything...he even wrote this song, chords included....been reading a book abotu him recently you see
Bretwantsfun 1 year ago 6
jimmy kimmel was too good for her!
HellVomit09 1 year ago 2
Jonny fucken Rotten.
drainu1 1 year ago 2
na na na na na na na na na, ha ha ha ha haha ha
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago 42
so raw and angry love it
kimfromlimerick 1 year ago 2
sex pistols r the fuking best
the0nlybullet 1 year ago 3
the sex tracks are originals by the charisma of rotten
alejbron79 1 year ago 2
rotten is cool
alejbron79 1 year ago 3
AWSOME!
propaghandi2 1 year ago
WHAT A NICE MESS
SuperPissflaps 1 year ago
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boffinme80 1 year ago 33
@boffinme80 Too bad he killed his wife He loses all credibility there
kitsunethefox 1 year ago
@kitsunethefox But his wife killed him, think of that
PBANDSNOW 11 months ago
You're right man. I agree with you.
sidfurious24 1 year ago
@boffinme80 i agree with u, and i also thinks its interesting that when youtubers think of sid they attribute him to Heroin, bad bass, nancy and him being this stone cold dude. Sid was actually a kind and loving person...before nancy
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
@boffinme80 Dont forget Joe Strummer, Joey ramone, iggy pop, alice cooper. And anyways the pistols were steve, paul, wally nightengale, and malcolm. Sid and Johnny simply filled the space. Though i agree with u completly.
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
@boffinme80 You fucking rock!!!! Awesome comment!!!!
SunlitTrollFilms 1 year ago
@boffinme80 It would have died anyways...London Calling, i love the more than any band to ever live but punk couldnt have survived such a fatal blow
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
Yet people say that Sid couldn't play bass. At first he couldn't, but here he sounds flawless. He got better with a few lessons.
boffinme80 1 year ago
I agree, and Sid is awesome so I'm not cutting him down, but there is a chance that he's unplugged.
lokrat2 1 year ago
@lokrat2
I know. But he improved for a while
boffinme80 1 year ago
sounds fukin great
SuperPissflaps 2 years ago 3
Cookies face at 1:32, ha ha!!!!! Bless ya Paul!!!!
theverge69 2 years ago
i would guess he wasn't as high as usual that night.
moonlily1 2 years ago
i,ll never listen to them again poofy cunts
johnstrain801 2 years ago
sid is really playing for once he aint that bad its raw thats fucking mad the sound didnt have to be perfect its punk
gungor1985 2 years ago
aahh ha ha!
ever get the feelin' ya being cheated!
topshowgroom 2 years ago
1:35 lol
1Beatlemaniac1 2 years ago
this is fucking classic song:D .. i like it.. :)
Koudy161 2 years ago 5
This song was to be recorded as their 5th single,but Lydon left the band straight after this gig and the rest,as they say,is history.........
BigBedunga 2 years ago 9
where is this from
sandandr2 2 years ago 2
Winterland Ballroom, Jan 14, 1978. Last Sex Pistols concert with Sid Vicious.
RampinUp46 2 years ago 3
Thank you so much for putting this video on youtube!!!
PunksWithPistols 2 years ago 6
:O hes actually playing....
STRUMMERandVICIOUS 2 years ago
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Wow, that's really nice to know.
The sex pistols wrote their own music? HOLY CRAP!
itsreallynotacat 2 years ago
yeah, i read that sid wrote this song :D
danipetepete 2 years ago 4
Sid did write this song.
Flipper79able 2 years ago 2
i know =)
danipetepete 2 years ago 2
one of them gave a fuck by this point cos mclaren fuked them over
SquidLickShaun 2 years ago
theyr whole set sucked that day,totally uninspired but this song just killed it!best version i ever heard,i guess they were tired of playing the same old songs
Monchi2006 2 years ago
I you cant be bothered to play the whole song.Why bother, Its not a anti jew song. Listen to the lyrics
essex68 2 years ago
no it isn't. Its satirical taking the point of views of the nazis until it tells them at the end to be a man and kill themselves.
IdleOz 2 years ago
Sid kicks ass in this performance...bithchin
vandutch1 2 years ago
Belsen was a gas, I heard the other day In the open graves where the Jews all lay "Life is fun and I wish you were here" they wrote on postcards to those held dear.
cluckinfold 2 years ago
lol
HellVomit09 2 years ago
johnny rotten kicks serious ass!
crazyloverboy0808 2 years ago 49
@crazyloverboy0808 finally something about another member and not just always Sid.
rothkappchen 1 year ago
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Belsen was a fuckin NAZI-CONTRETACION-CAMP.
Bergen-Belsen-Gass the Jews!!!
TorcidaPorec 2 years ago
Belsen was a holiday camp,i read the brochure in Thomas Cooks,it said the views from the showerblock are breath taking ha ha
JINNERMAC 2 years ago
@JINNERMAC ur a fuckin poofter
johnstrain801 2 years ago
best fukn song
Sikjacksains 2 years ago
technically, there's better bass players. what the fuck
davidoffski 2 years ago
LIFE IS FUN!
PUKEsleepTUBE 2 years ago
Sid doesnt sound unpluged to me.
LORDHATE76 2 years ago
mind blowing performance. One of the greatest moments in rock and roll history. wish I'd been there
themanwithxrayeyes 2 years ago
I dont get it why they say this is their worst show. Dissonance is a big part of punk music, look at Black Flag.
crowbarftw 2 years ago
because the were just standing around, and they were tired, and not very lively.
Also, they were mad that they were playing infront of a lot of people.
rmcpix 2 years ago
Say what you want about them but they brought back free-style bad boy Rock n Roll when it was dying.
jcordj66 2 years ago
You are absolutely correct!! Totally agree.........
moecreek70 2 years ago
everything you people say about the pistols and all rock stars is like reading one of those sick sad gossip mags...get a fuckin life..none of you know anything about them and more importantly why would you want to...get a grip!!!!
rocker2009uk 2 years ago
Yes. When they came to an overblown end I was hypnotised by the hype to a cringe-worthy degree. To admire something is not the same as hoping that it will rub off on you by obsessing over details - especially if that something is authenticity. That's a cliche I still don't really know the truth of but I've got some clues. In my own boring opinion, when they lost Glen their style lost some of it's substance. Style was an important part of them, but you need different elements sometimes.
gerontodon 2 years ago
i got into the pistols when i was 12-13 in 1978 when the pistols were nearly over but i knew fuck all about them apart from that bollocks was cool...i hope youre not one of them who says !i saw the pistols" lol...very very few people saw the pistols...
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gerontodon 2 years ago
dude i didnt mean to offend you i just hear people who say they saw the pistols..i even heard a guy say he saw the pistols...hes 4 years younger than me plus hes a knob and simply didnt...why oh why??? the reason i got into punk at such an early age was that my cousin who is 4 years older got me into punk...and guess what? he really did see the pistols at some place in manchester called the electric circus i thinkhe really did do as well..he said there were not that many there...
rocker2009uk 2 years ago
Don't worry, no offence . My own issues over getting punk wrong!. I do still genuinely some of the punk bands. I think the pistols probably had a natural shelf life but it could have been handled better. What do I know though? Don't answer! It's weird, I knew kids who liked them at 11 and some thought it was over in 1978.
I think you almost either had to be so clued up that you were part of the scene, or just in the right place at the right time to have seen the pistols live.
gerontodon 2 years ago
i saw them! last year! hoooray!
jamierourketen 2 years ago
I removed my 1st reply because I put lol and I wasn't really lol-ing, I find my cluelessness too depressing :) I was in a similar boat to you but believed a lot of bollocks that McLaren, Julie Burchill (who's admitted she was talking shit) said about them. I Glen Matlock not only contributed more creatively but they already had the hooligan element and didn't need Sid. That's all based on reading and tv of course. You're right just to like the music. Image is great but going on and on kills it.
gerontodon 2 years ago 2
one of my top 5 pistols songs. simple but very effective . sid played well at this gig no matter how fucked up he was (allegedly he took smack beforehand) wich made john think fuck this i,ve had enough. cos he was trying to keep sid away from that shit all through the american tour. the pistols thought this winterland show was one of the worst they,d done. but i think they sound fuckin great. watch the filth and the fury for the full story on this.
fragz666 2 years ago
brilliant track brilliant band,
sid vicious rip.
coshthedriver78 2 years ago
if sid had of got his smack he wouldnt be able to fukn see what wrong with u he wudve passed out and he didnt take smack before this gig he played the whole gig fuk u idiot BrasilNYC fukn retard
punkrockenpunk 2 years ago
and btw u obviously dont understand heroin addiction. "he must of got his smack that day " wot a fucking arsehole
hiitsmehi 2 years ago
wtf is tht brasilnyc dickhead on about. so fucking wot if he couldnt wots ur problem, glen matlocxk wos a fucking faggot that went to college the pistols wouldnt sound the same with out sid he was the agressive factor . u fuckin yankee twat go fuck yourself and die cunt
hiitsmehi 2 years ago
i love all the assholes that think this is an antisemetic song. get a fucking clue, will ya.
lucybrown1 2 years ago
personnaly i love the song
Superjew14 2 years ago 2
best !!
sexpistols1993 2 years ago
Hear
Deadeye55 2 years ago
Love the ramones, Love the Pistols, the shite you here now ???, make your your own minds up.
You cant beat hard nasty, spitefull music.With Balls ,and thats what that was.
Deadeye55 2 years ago
right on
sidviciouslives420 2 years ago
so good
andreas271093 2 years ago
great performance. wish i could've seen them =(. and wow sid is actually playing bass haha
completecontrol77 2 years ago
Yes he plays the whole concert.,give or take, Makes you wonder why that had him turned down in Dallas.
jcordj66 2 years ago
You can get this on Itunes
halogamer238 2 years ago
Steve Jones is playing killer rock and roll on this unusual song, doing head and body gyrations in sync with his flourishes on the riffs. Syd does indeed seems to be playing and he's tight with group, keeping pace with Cook; Rotten's singing brings it all together, I mean when he sings "guess whos dead" it is absolutely scabrous like hes firing nails and spikes from his throat, he really conveys the horror that song seems to be scratching at.
barfcoswill 3 years ago
sid couldnt play? sounds like he's doing ok in this video.
lucybrown1 2 years ago
Sid couldn't play......what's this, all of two chords? I could learn that today and be playin the gig tonight. Must be he got his smack that day. Watch the last gig at Winterland......Sid was a fuckin' toss pot. Should have never booted Matlock and maybe theyd've done another album. Fuck McLaren too......fuckin' waste of egg and sperm that sod
BrasilNYC2007 2 years ago
Thats wat jones said.
Superjew14 2 years ago 3
the best peformance of this song
ronald3326 3 years ago 6
agree
bartolomeo1981 3 years ago
Piece of History, I think rotten had the flu. What a Message 2,
TonyParanoit 3 years ago
Great perfromance from Rotten and one of their best songs. Even more amazing - is Sid really playing bass ? If so he's doin ok.
youcanhandlethetruth 3 years ago 5
FOR CHRIST SAKE.......malcom had nothin to do with Sids drug abuse...it was that whore nancy
straiber 3 years ago 10
Not to mention his fuckin mum
halogamer238 3 years ago
@straiber
bull shit, sid had been clean for a little while, and him and malcom took off and sid came back all smacked up, and johhny had, had enough, the end
smeagma 1 year ago
@straiber the best part of what u just said was the irony that nancy WAS a whore
PBANDSNOW 1 year ago
@straiber It was Sid. Sid's drug abuse was Sid. Plus, it doesn't even matter, his drugs. HE KICKED ASS. They all did. Lots of people do drugs and people don't go around blaming it on others. I do them. It's me. It was Sid himself. And He ROCKED
rothkappchen 1 year ago
this is the dogs bollox,absolute brilliance,its a shame he can't perform like this now instead of advertising butter,ho dear ho dear belsen was a gas.
dapper64 3 years ago
i agree
theanilo 3 years ago
Nancy killed sid with her fucking heroin and ideas She was more anarchist than Sid more punk
attis88 3 years ago
fuck yes!!
jonslick13 3 years ago 4
Sid couldn't play well as heard in Dallas but Johnny Rotten wanted Sid for his bad boy image and attitude. However, if you listen to the final concert at the Wintergreen he's not so trashed and you can clearly hear him playing. It's like he finally learned the songs at the very end. Sid you did your best RIP.
jcordj66 3 years ago 3
It was called Winterland. According to Johnny, this last concert was the one and only concert during the American tour that Sid was playing under the influence of heroin. (So John said in the book Rotten). Its a good sound.
aintpluggedin 3 years ago
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jcordj66 3 years ago
Do you mean that Sid was completly on drugs during the gig in San Francisco? If my brain is still working good, the only gig where Malcom MacLaren was here was in Winterland!
sidfurious24 3 years ago
On the first page - 'One of the reasons I stayed w/ Sid on the bus during the American tour...was to keep him away from drugs...The minute we hit San Francisco, somehow or other, Sid managed to escape and get himself a whole parcel of heroin...that buggered him up. Totally. As a result, dear reader, the Winterland show was a disaster." I dont know if that meant he was completely on drugs.
As far as Malcolm being there, supposedly Malcolm was uninvolved, flew on a plane with only
aintpluggedin 3 years ago
Steve and Paul, avoided them and vice versa, tho John said Sid was angry with Malcolm and wanted to attack him on sight.
aintpluggedin 3 years ago
ok i didn't know that, and it's very interesting. I don't know if Winterland was really a disaster, it's just a strange gig, where any mumbers of the band are on their own trip. Steve sometimes stopped to play, leaving Sid alone with Paul Cook (at the end of "bodies" and on "liar") It's easy to say but we can feel that the sex pistols were not the same.
sidfurious24 3 years ago
Yes, I agree with you. and I believe its fair to say we can never know what in John's mind made it a disaster. To me it is a great concert but one that is heavy with an ominous mystery. And that, of course is only one thing that makes it different, (though they were all different). I also read a supposed phone conversation that Sid gave a reporter a few days later in which he asked 'John wasnt too good was he?' meaning in the last concert. Thats how they saw it. Truly, it was so long ago...
aintpluggedin 3 years ago
I saw this interview too, i really don't know if it's true or not. A few days later, Johnny wanted to reform the sex pistols without Sid and Malcom MacLaren but Steve Jones refused... I supposed that Steve was influenced by Malcom at the time. Too bad. If i must keep one gig of the sex pistols, it's in San Antonio. Johnny sang with rage, Sid was out of control and Steve too. A real punk gig. I got it on LP but the sound is not very good.
sidfurious24 3 years ago
Yes, from what I gather Steve and Paul both thought Malcolm wanted only the best for them at the time. John said that the relationship between he and Steve was horrible at that time. The division was deep. I agree with you on that with San Antonio. It does stand out. So much emotion and energy. All powers in synch :-)
aintpluggedin 3 years ago