am confused, was badge man behind the wooden fence or behind the white wall zapruder was on filming?. as in were they (badge man and railroad worker) between the white wall and wooden fence??
the gunman resembles david ferrie the reddish hair and longated eyebrows ......view a pic of david ferrie around 1963 and the gunman behind the picket fence......
@SUSSTURUCU That's something I've wondered too. If he knew he had been shot (grasping his throat right before the fatal shot) why didn't he duck down in the seat/floorboard? The only thing I can think of would be the shock or pain of that first shot.
@SUSSTURUCU Kennedy wore a back brace due to severe back pain he suffered after PT-109 was rammed by a Japanese destroyer in WW2. Kennedy was slammed to the deck of the PT boat and suffered a severe back injury. It plagued him the rest of his life. Also, Kennedy was hit by another bullet in the back just before or after the shot to his neck. He was probably in shock. All of this took about 8 seconds to transpire.
Awwww! He was scared! He said, If I had known this, I wouldn't have given the interview cause that's too close to home right now.....meaning now whoever was behind this now knew who saw the real killers and would kill him :(
Senator Yarborough was very suspicious about many aspects of the case, including LBJ's behavior in the motorcade that day and in the investigation afterwards. In any event, the evidence overwhelmingly proves a conspiracy, and has for nearly 50 years. That's why the majority of people in the world are not fooled by the Warren Commission.
I am doubtful about what Ed Hoffman says because S. M Holland and other railroad workers ran around from the overpass to the picket fence and saw no gunman and certainly no gunman pass a rifle to anyone. Ed Hoffman's dad said his son was prone to exaggeration and didn't believe what he had said.
I think there WAS a gunman there that moved off before the railroad workers got around there.
I don't believe this guys story. After he goes through his account of that day, he makes the statement "to be honest with you" several times. This would seem to be an indication that he was not being honest about something he said before. He is subconsciously saying that to ease his fears that his story will be unbelievable.
@SUSSTURUCU There is an image in the Moorman photo that can be interpreted as being a shooter in a police uniform. Whether it's real or just light between leaves is debatable. The problem with 'badgeman' appears to be that IF at the concrete wall he would prob have been seen (and would be about two and a half feet tall). If further back in the parking lot he would need to be on a step ladder to be seen where he is in the Moorman photo. Search for it on youtube
@SUSSTURUCU The hairline fits neither. Right now my attention is focused on real police officer Roscoe White. We need to see a picture with his hairline in 1963. The only other candidate is Lucien Sarti. Identifying badgeman would open things up a lot.
why do u farkers care who killed the president you are all pussies to do anything anyways u live in a country that has guns in its laws u need to take out the crime bosses 1 by 1 slowly u will reclaim your country back from these red neck bible bashing scum farks otherwise shut up put your head down and chew on more grass u stupid pussie ass american motherfarkers but that wont happen because making money and being selfish comes first in your country know america is finished it to corrupt
@insanenbrain Yeah that's all we need is some pussy Brit to tell us how to get our country back , what a fucking typical arrogant , self righteous blue blood piece of shit ! Like you know to figure out our country you dumb fucking turd ! We had to fight for our independence against you fucking scum bag british , not to mention how you fucked India and Hong Kong pussy boy . What about the I.O.U for saving you panzy ass from Hitler little boy? I train two hours a day bro I'll beat you down fagot
@jjj255able i am not brittish marther farker i am Australian which means your wrong again Australia has been in every war you dumb cunts have invented for your fat corporate banks to get richer in the last 120 years all u need to worry about is fema camps marther farker your own greedy rockerfellers want you CHIPPED and herded like COWS shut up and get your self ready to take out your country's elite because there think taking out russia and china will save them it wont it it wiil be the end
You call us Cow's and yet you Australians gave up your guns quickly, without a fight, with a minimum of bleating and I might add with your CUNTS shivering. So much for the bullshit Crocodile Dundee Image..right mate? I guess you should call yourselves.
The Mutton From Down Under!
Play your Didgeridoo Blue--Play your Didgeridoo--All together now!---Give me your guns now sport---Give me your guns now---sheep don't need guns sport---so hand em over right now!
Be glad those police on the bridge didn't see you trying to get their attention! Because after this incident, whoever knew to much died, many of them mysteriously, count your lucky stars pal!
Let's say.... I'm a conspirator. I want JFK dead. I plan the assassination and decide that the BEST place to do it is in the open surrounded by witnesses and high-rise buildings potentially full of people who could see, where I can plant my shooters and hope -- HOPE!! -- no one sees them. Real geniuses, these conspirators..... What a joke. Oswald, alone, deal with it. The sooner you all get over all the hokus pokus of conspiracy theory, the sooner you'll regain your sanity.
@coolrog7564 The problem with people like you is that you buy into this propaganda philosophy that "the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it," and you think the common citizen is a dope willing to have the wool pulled over his eyes. Cover story, my ass. People do not have to be government shills to examine things and see for themselves that these conspiracy theories are the purest kinds of pure nonsense. We're not "buying the government's story." We just see more clearly than you do.
@wolfwilliams hey thanks for straightening me out. I should have realised that crimes that create a national and international power and policy shift are only done by lone nutjobs and small rogue factions. now that you have pointed out that all the evidence that points to a conspiracy is just pure coincidence we can all rest easy.
@coolrog7564 Evidence pointing to a conspiracy? Then why hasn't 50 years of dogged pursuit by you guys turned up anything substantial? I know... the government is one step ahead of you at every turn, foiling you again and again. And the "policy shift".... Give us a break. There are always groups that hate the policies of the person in charge. Just because that person gets killed doesn't lead logically to a conspiracy. You guys have wanted to see conspiracy from the beginning, so you created one.
@wolfwilliams Exactly there is no such thing as a conspiracy. I can't even fathom why the word is still listed in the dictionary. look up colonel fletcher prouty. he has first hand knowledge of how the intelligence community works.
@coolrog7564 Right.... because there have been conspiracies means that all things are necessarily conspiratorial. That's quite a leap you're implying. "Illogical" is also in the dictionary, but that doesn't mean every word you type fits that modifier.... Oh, wait.....
@coolrog7564 Bro... there is nothing substantial to debate here. It has been 50 years and not an inch of movement in the direction of verifying any of these conspiracy theories. The government can NOT have been able to hide all the shit you guys claim they've hidden. It's time for the CT diehards to come in from the cold.. or come out and play... or whatever. There really is nothing left to see here....
@wolfwilliams they have been stonewalling,redacting and sending out misinfo for 50 years not to mention there are still many classified documents not available. good luck in the future strawman you're going to need it.
@hans1559 Hmmm... Where to begin? First, they're called "bullets." Second, it's "equates to" or "equals," not "equals to." Third.... Three bullets, from the same direction, even the same gun!!! THAT'S how simple it is...
The fat fuck with the glasses sounds like a fat old fucking fool who now wants attention.....He is fucking crying and "NOW" mentioning that he did actually see this railroad man....gtfo, Put 2 and 2 together, if you heard a shot behind you and then the president is dead from a gunshot...that happend to be behind you then thats the assassin...but no dont say anything or try to or get attention of authorities that those guys went that way or something.
. This man in the film (Gordon Arnold) was the one witness who probably got the best view of the assasination. He was right on the grass knoll by the shooters and filmed it all. But the CIA took his film immediately after the shooting and we will probably never see it
lol so fake.... deaf guy says he " suspiciously saw 2 men 2 hundreds yards away in a parking lot?" who the hell looks suspicious at 2 hundred yards away???? how can u tell ?
Either this guy is lying, or Gordon Arnold is lying, Gordon Arnold said after he heard a shot badgeman jumped over the fense and kicked him and took his camera.... then took off. Ed Hoffman is saying badgeman shot then handed over the gun to the other guy and took off.
they should measure the height of gordon arnold in the picture, like they did to badgeman on discovery, and see if gordon arnold is the same heigth as the gordon arnold in the picture
I believe that the truth about the assasination of President JFK will be discovered one day. It must happen. There is no possibiliy that no one will tell the truth, it had to be plenty of people in the conspiracy. It often happens that people want to tell the truth before going to die. There is high likelyhood that some of them watch these materials. Guys do not be silent any more.! You have the human duty to reveal the truth, do not wait, otherwise you will go to the worst place in the hell.
Hard to believe this guy. He says he tried to tell the FBI and they didn't want to listen and offered him money. How could he have had that kind of conversation, he's deaf mute!?
@r1o9s8s6 just because he is deaf mute doesnt mean that he cant communicate with people. its called sign language. i believe that he is fully capable of having a conversation..
Dorothy Kilgallen, a crime reporter of the New York Journal, obtained a private interview with Jack Ruby. She told friends that she had information that would "break the case wide open". Aware of what had happened to Bill Hunter and Jim Koethe, she handed her interview notes to her friend Margaret Smith. On 8th November, 1965, Kilgallen, was found dead. It was reported she had committed suicide. Her friend, Margaret Smith, died two days later.
2:28" I went to the FBI.They offered me money to keep quiet.They didn't want me to say anything." SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW -ANOTHER INSIDE JOB.FBI-CIA-SECRET SERVICE-FUCKING TRAITORS-MAY THEY BURN IN HELL.
What this REALLY boils down to is this. Do we have a secret enclave of people working with the CIA , FBI and organized crime who have hijacked our Constitutional Republic, and do WHATEVER they please, while lying to and deceiving the American Public? Is it time that we DEMAND TRUTH? I think it is way overdue. We are being LIED to OVER and OVER by criminals who have ruined the USA.
@WillSee11 Do we have a secret enclave of people working with the CIA , FBI and organized crime who have hijacked our Constitutional Republic, and do WHATEVER they please.
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.THE USA HAD BEEN TAKEN OVER BY SCUM EVER SINCE JFK WAS KILLED.
RFK WAS STOPPED AS SOON AS HE GOT STARTED-everyone knew he would be the next presdent. Everything since then has been LIES & MORE LIES.
people have to remember when you are involed in a event either on purpose or not things slow down and you do remember every little detail ,especialy somthing as dramatic as this was there is no dout there was a conspriacy. i wish i was wrong i really do but greed is the root of all evil the greed of the goverment started on this day and has continued to this very moment. i still love my country but just like a cheating spouce you may still love them but you'll never trust the same way again
Ok Oswald shot twice one missed and the other struck him in the back which then exited out of his neck.The grassy knolls shot which I believe some one shot from there but it was just a distraction so WILLIAM GREER the driver can take the fatal head shot that's why he keeps looking back to see if he's dead there is no other reason for a CIA AGENT to slow to a near stop in a situation like that.He then later that week got promoted it's on file you can look it up.GREER did it left hand chest high.
@rylestknuckles The images shown in the color photo have been added for dramatic effect. They're not there in the original Moorman photo which is a black and white Poloroid. Arnold was not there the day of the assassination regardless of what he says. He said "Badgeman" shot at the president, climbed over the fence and demanded Arnold surrender his film while kicking him. Meanwhile, scores of people in Dealey are running towards the knoll and they don't see Arnold. His story is a fabrication.
@LoneNutter1 Those "scores of people" were in a state of hysteria, partner. People in that state of mind don't take the time to memorize little details.
@whitethronebooks Little details? According to Arnold he was in plain sight. There were few people on the knoll at the time of the shooting. So if there are hundreds of people running towards the knoll someone should have seen Arnold on the ground while a man in a police uniform was kicking him. Jean Hill and Mary Mooreman never saw Arnold. Neither did Charles Brehm or Abraham Zapruder who would have been less than 30 feet away to Arnold's left. Arnold's story is a complete fabrication.
"your talking bullshit" No capital letter, wrong use of "You're and a curse word "do u honestly believe what your saying?" No capital letter again, u is not a word, believe what your (you're) saying? "look again you blind bollix." Again, no capital letter but finish with an insult.
What specifically should I be looking at?
If you could arrange to reply in a manner that respects the language and the reader I'd be happy to hear from you.
yeah, that deaf guy just happened to noticed an awful lot in a short amount of time...The fish stories continue to grow and more people are there as the years go by...Heck, I was there and I wasn't even born yet....
grassy gnolls man missed though or else jfk head woulda moved possiblymore to the left first, it almost goes stright back leading me to beleive the driver did hit em but the shooters were all over and even one in the drain system that is also right where the grassgnoll man is. There areother videos showing bullets of all kinds hitting the cars window frame at top, lots of shots were fired again i think the head shot came from in the car.
Badgeman was later confirmed to have been seen 20 miles east of the shooting, puffing a Cuban getting head from a puerto rican babe. His hands still greasy and the outline of a .222 shell in his back left zipper pocket. Nile Fluser who allegedly saw but didn't hear him was coincidentally another deaf mute that FBI agents couldn't understand. A picture of the grassy knoll was taken in full 1080i HD from a supposed time traveler with an advanced Chinese camera phone but was confiscated immediatel
@uranorexic - Yeah thanks for that pal. Ever thought that the fact I was questioning it sorta implied I didn't quite believe it because things didn't add up. And damn I posted that a YEAR ago :S
Read James Ellroy's "American Tabloid" It gives a very intruiging but (fictional) account of how the conspiracy may have played out.
This was a well planned and executed hit on the most guarded man of the time and anyone who believes the Hoover's or Warrens description of events is simply deluded
May Gordon Arnold live/rest in peace....i can totaly understand his pain. If i could, i would shoot every corrupt asshole in our Govt. I hope they read this too, cause they are cunts and the biggest pussies on this planet. Fuck them and if there is a hell, i hope they burn and get a pinnapple shoved up their ass like hitler in that 1 movies with Adam Sandler!
im beginning to think that oswald was working under cover for the FBI to gather information to help shut these people down in the CIA and was set up to be the fall guy for the shooting. thats why hoover had all records of oswald destroyed after the shooting took place.
The guy on the left in the interview at the end also was in another documentary where he believed Oswald acted alone......also shown on cable TV......which one was correct? Are they trying to confuse the issue? Naaah, yeah right.
@brokencasket Sorry for posting 2 months later, but that dude on the left is Gary Mack. His story changed after he became custodian of the 6th floor museum in the Texas Schoolbook Depository in later years. Wanna keep your job?.. tell e/one Oswald did it from the sniper's nest up there. They tell me one isn't actually allowed to look out of the window though, in case one sees the chance of actually hitting JFK is slim.
one question please. ok its been over 40 years now since kennedy was killed and say the average age of the man involved was for instance 40 years old. ok that means most of the men are dead now or all of them. why dont they come out with the truth now and release the records if ever for the people to find out the truth????? its not like we could convict dead men now??? or is the fact. that once history is written it can never be changed????? or would we think less of our government knowing ????
@brokencasket i agree with ya. a man once said that if we knew everything that has happend in history it would set us back a 100 years. not just the jfk killing but what if there was really aliens and they told us?? would people nut out that bad to find out they walk among us?? im not saying im a alien hunter and im trying to prove it but i used the alien question as a four instance. whats your opinion??? thanks friend.
I do wonder what all secrets the Late Ted Kennedy took to the grave with him.
The things regarding this, the assanation of his brother.
at 7:13 he's crying saying "they killed the President" and I am crying with him. We all have been. Kenedy's picture was on the mantles of American homes Who else has that honour? What other politicial leader has a honoured place on the fireplace mantles as J.F. K? Not since Lincoln or Washington. Amazing series! Thanks for posting it here!
The United States Government goes and pulls off a thing like Watergate and then it wants me to believe that the JFK assassination wasn't a conspiracy, too? I'm not buying it. Yes, I know that Watergate happened after the assassination, but a government that is corrupt enough to do something like Watergate wouldn't shrink from participating in an assassination.
sorry but the deaf guy is full of bs because sam hollan and two cops along with 2 other railroad workers were watching the motorcade from the rr overpass where the deaf guy claims the rifle was handed off.....holland and party witnessed the shooting from about twenty feet behind this guy......bs
hey local punk 101, if you read the other comments most other people that have informed themselves have realized that all the conspiracy crap was people like you blaming the govt. for all their problems , refusing to believe that in a free society anybody as low as oswald could actually be guilty of this, this was no different than sirhan, or hinkley or j e ray , back in 64 the kennedys and the warren commision knew this , keep reading all your conspiracy theories
there was no badgeman , it`s all baloney , so many people have made so much money on books claiming all kinds of things even confessing to being one of the shooters, the echo in dealy plaza made many people think there was a shooter nearby but science has proven the 3 shots came from the book depository `s 6 flr , many witnesses recanted their strories later , history chanells the magic bullet debunks all the conspiracy crap and all the shooters
@MultiJoeyo That's right. Keep drinking the Kool-aid. Pull the covers over your head and go back to sleep. Your masters like it when you lick their boots.
Ed Hoffman has been changing his story for years. Even members of his immediate family have reported to authorities about this. Ed is not a credible witness. In addidtion, Gordon Arnold would have appeared in the Mary Mooreman Polaroid photo that Gary Mack used to create the myth of Badge Man. Even Arnold has been changing his story as well. Sorry folks, there's nothing here. It's all made up and altered to make the "evidence" fit the story.
Sorry - but you foolish and ignorant "conspiracy theorists" look at ANYTHING and can put some sort of spin on it!
LHO was a lonely, pathetic, misguided soul with NOTHING to live for and who desperately sought attention in the only way he knew how. What better way than to kill the most powerful person on the planet??
@howboutyomama Im not gonna say he wasnt there to shoot the president but i will tell you he did not shoot him....The fatal head shot was from the front, and the shot that hit the presidents back was not from oswald because if it was, it would not have passed through JFK's body at the angle needed to hit connely who was in front of him.
Back in the 90s I bought a video tape with an interview conducted by a reporter interviewing a prisoner named James Files. Files said he killed Kennedy from the Grassy Knoll. I also believe Gordon Arnold and see no reason why he would make up such a story. With the photographic evidence makes the argument even the more compelling.
For years I've wondered and often thought that Kennedy was Murdered by our Government but never have I heard of such a compelling arguments and If these men are telling the truth, and I belive they are, then some one or something should be done. This evidence should be comprised with others and a D.A, with some BALLS needs to stand up and do something. It's my belief that because JFK spoke out against a secret sociaty then this would be why he was killed.
Vincento Adamello Brenta Bugliosi is ABSOLUTELY NOT interested in the real matter off the assassionation, he is however very interested and determent in a disney attempt to proove that the WC was right
300 million suckers fooled by 8 buffoons and also buffoons do indeed get children
LBJ tried to get Jackie Kennedy to sit in his car & Yarborough to sit with JFK. That way he could kill two men he loathed at once, & not have to risk getting Jackie shot too or having to feel guilty for blowing her husband's brains all over her. But JFK said No, he wanted his wife with him.
The video is on YouTube by the way, one of JFK's aides tells what happened.
The more you dig into the assassination the more the liar and mentally ill line up, Arnold, Hoffman, Ruby, Cooper, and the hit just keep on coming. This doc has been banned in England because of all the lawsuits it has created, a total scam
Yes, and NONE of the other couple of hundred witnesses in Dealey Plaza confirm Arnold's story. Zapruder and Sitzman would've seen Arnold, if he were really there. If Yarborough could see him from the car, many more people would also have seen him.
You haven't seen the first part of this piece where Mary Moorman took a picture that shows this man. And this guy Gordon left the next day for Korea as a soldier.
I tell you my lone-nut shit, because I know you are a gullible moron. So get your toilet paper ready because here it comes. Long and slimy shit.
"The government will never lie to you. Do not believe any good people who say Conspiracy. Do not think about anything, just accept what government says".
And above all else, the next time you read my lies, do not think: "Am I a gullible moron"?
Ethrion ...Gordon Arnold was filming the parade, he didn't see anyone shoot the president. THe man he saw was in a police uniform and took his film, weren't you listening?
I don't believe that the shooter was behind the fence, because i have seen a photo of kennedys head with the bullet right in the back, so doesn't it mean that the shooter was behind kennedy, not next to..? that's just my theory..
How would a deaf mute know that there is now proof that there was a supposed railroad worker there when no one has ever said anything about it. Also, the FBI was directly linked to the coverup retard
I believe he could be telling the truth because red neck southerners and wasp FBI agents are often types who are ignorant enough to consider deaf/mutes simpletons, and can be made to go away just like children, by offering them candy - or money. I know people like that.
LOL this Ed Hoffman has been proven to be a bullshitter. Gordon Arnold was another opportunist who, like so many people, decided to place himself in a historical event.
u are nothing..just a fucking bug..like most humans..most are losers..like little bugs who are here and then die..and u think your life is so important when it isnt..its nothing...your just like a bug...disposable....so fuck off....
@ChiroQuacker I am just helping people like you, Who can't think for themselves .Why so hostile??Does this strike a nerve?? Was it your grand daddy?? You can't stop a snowball thats been rolling for 45 years Pal, So deal with it or go comment on Justin Beaver, That's about your speed!
When I saw this film,I thought these guys are all nutters! Seeing faces in bushes then painting faces & figures proves nothing.I saw faces on the wallpaper on my bedroom wall,when I was a kid,but I was delirious at the time!-What's their excuse? -& the witnesses all contradict each other,so who can we believe?
What I don't understand is how Gordon Arnold could have been stood so close to the 'badgeman' and the guy wearing the hard hat and to not have noticed that the 'cop' was carrying a rifle and who would have been aiming it. I mean in the photo he is stood pretty much right next to them behind the fence. Also the guy in the suit who told him to get out of the area basically moved Arnold right down to where 'badgeman' was. Could someone clear this up for me please?
he's not standing next to them, the three figures are just aligned that way in the photo. he was standing several feet in front of the fence (on the plaza side) and they were behind the fence.
The thing is, this old fashioned, restored picture has inadequate depth perception. The badge man and train worker (if there were any) would have been quite a few feet behind Gordon. Gordon in the 1st part clarified he was clearly in front of the fence and he pointed to where he thought he heard the gunfire from. This was before he had even seen this photo. The photo confirmed that where he pointed out as the source of the gunfire was the exact spot the badgeman would be in.
Find it funny how conspiracy theorist will see a shooter in this blob, yeat when they are shown ironclad evidence that it was LHO all alone they are called shills
@migo53333 Vincent Bugliosi. 1,664 Physical Pages (plus 1,128 pages on accompanying CD-ROM containing over 10,000 citations and footnotes plus all testimony from WC plus the HSCA).
@migo53333 which guy, ed hoffman, beverly oliver, jean hill and gordon arnold have changed their story since the 70's since money was waved in their faces. Gordon Arnold claimed that badge men beat him wife the rifle he shot JFK with in front of the crowd, he was one disturbed individual
@Obelisk2290 only heard of jean hill....gorden arnold story doesnt matter....I"ll listen to people like sam holland and his buddies on overpass...and there description of what they saw behind wooden fence....cigarette buts footprints in mud and on bumper all makes sense......oh and all of these workers who witnessed this were not asked to testify before that sham called the WC........
@migo53333 what do cigarrete butts and mudd on bumpers have to do with assassination. Also remember that the WC was made up of reps and dems who never agree on anything plus many assistants and lawyers no chance of conspiracy
@Obelisk2290 you dont know the details do you??? youtube sam holland to start..and then checkout how much testimony was deleted.......sorry my friend same people that wacked jfk, wacked rfk.......
@Obelisk2290 roger craig was adallas cop who did his own investigation and died because of it..........just another coincedental premature death of those people who tried to ask questions.......
am confused, was badge man behind the wooden fence or behind the white wall zapruder was on filming?. as in were they (badge man and railroad worker) between the white wall and wooden fence??
BLOOD1MONEY 1 week ago
the gunman resembles david ferrie the reddish hair and longated eyebrows ......view a pic of david ferrie around 1963 and the gunman behind the picket fence......
al18631963 3 weeks ago
AND I CAN't UNDERSTAND SOMETHİNG..
WHY DİD NOT JFK İNCLİNE AFTER FİRST SHOOT ?
IF JFK İNCLİNED, HE DİDN'T DİE...
WHY DİD HE NOT İNCLİNE AFTER FİRST SHOOT ?
SUSSTURUCU 1 month ago
@SUSSTURUCU That's something I've wondered too. If he knew he had been shot (grasping his throat right before the fatal shot) why didn't he duck down in the seat/floorboard? The only thing I can think of would be the shock or pain of that first shot.
z0mbi3jesuz 1 month ago
@z0mbi3jesuz MaYBE...HE HAD A STROKE AFTER FİRST SHOOT...AND AFTER HE HAD STROKE,HE COULDN'T İNCLİNE
BECAUSE FİRST BULLET CAME TO KENNEDY's NECK
İN HUMANS, NECK HAVE GOT A LOT OF NERVOUS CELLS WHİCH COME FROM BRAİN
I THİNK HE HAD STROKE AFTER FİRST SHOOT or ZAPRUDER FİLM WAS ORGANİZED BY SECRET SERVİCES..
SUSSTURUCU 1 month ago
@SUSSTURUCU Kennedy wore a back brace due to severe back pain he suffered after PT-109 was rammed by a Japanese destroyer in WW2. Kennedy was slammed to the deck of the PT boat and suffered a severe back injury. It plagued him the rest of his life. Also, Kennedy was hit by another bullet in the back just before or after the shot to his neck. He was probably in shock. All of this took about 8 seconds to transpire.
dougalmac54 2 weeks ago
Awwww! He was scared! He said, If I had known this, I wouldn't have given the interview cause that's too close to home right now.....meaning now whoever was behind this now knew who saw the real killers and would kill him :(
MissItalombiana09 1 month ago
Senator Yarborough was very suspicious about many aspects of the case, including LBJ's behavior in the motorcade that day and in the investigation afterwards. In any event, the evidence overwhelmingly proves a conspiracy, and has for nearly 50 years. That's why the majority of people in the world are not fooled by the Warren Commission.
TheLensSolution 1 month ago 3
Senator Yarborough was talking about someone else. When asked if the guy that jumped flat was over on the grassy knoll he said no.
funkmasterjee 1 month ago
I am doubtful about what Ed Hoffman says because S. M Holland and other railroad workers ran around from the overpass to the picket fence and saw no gunman and certainly no gunman pass a rifle to anyone. Ed Hoffman's dad said his son was prone to exaggeration and didn't believe what he had said.
I think there WAS a gunman there that moved off before the railroad workers got around there.
funkmasterjee 1 month ago
I don't believe this guys story. After he goes through his account of that day, he makes the statement "to be honest with you" several times. This would seem to be an indication that he was not being honest about something he said before. He is subconsciously saying that to ease his fears that his story will be unbelievable.
jollincones 1 month ago
But J.EDGAR HOOVER DİD NOT ACCEPT TO BADGE MAN or ANY ASSASSİN ON GRASSY KNOLL...
IS BADGE MAN TRUE ???
SUSSTURUCU 1 month ago
@SUSSTURUCU There is an image in the Moorman photo that can be interpreted as being a shooter in a police uniform. Whether it's real or just light between leaves is debatable. The problem with 'badgeman' appears to be that IF at the concrete wall he would prob have been seen (and would be about two and a half feet tall). If further back in the parking lot he would need to be on a step ladder to be seen where he is in the Moorman photo. Search for it on youtube
funkmasterjee 1 month ago
@funkmasterjee He should appear quite a bit west along the fence above the three people on the steps.
tregoj1 1 month ago
@SUSSTURUCU more than likely when you watch the zapruder film.
of course hoover wouldnt accept that, no one in the government would #corrupt
Guerillaradio13 1 month ago
@Guerillaradio13 You can be right...
WHO WAS THE BADGE MAN ???
I THİNK THAT BADGE MAN WAS JACK RUBY or DAVİD FERRİE
SUSSTURUCU 1 month ago
@SUSSTURUCU The hairline fits neither. Right now my attention is focused on real police officer Roscoe White. We need to see a picture with his hairline in 1963. The only other candidate is Lucien Sarti. Identifying badgeman would open things up a lot.
tregoj1 1 month ago
FBI offered him money to keep quiet...yeah right....!
no288 2 months ago
@no288 what part don't you believe? I suppose he made it all up,maybe he and Lee Bowers got together and concocted the whole story!
nicenonya3 2 months ago
why do u farkers care who killed the president you are all pussies to do anything anyways u live in a country that has guns in its laws u need to take out the crime bosses 1 by 1 slowly u will reclaim your country back from these red neck bible bashing scum farks otherwise shut up put your head down and chew on more grass u stupid pussie ass american motherfarkers but that wont happen because making money and being selfish comes first in your country know america is finished it to corrupt
insanenbrain 3 months ago
@insanenbrain Yeah that's all we need is some pussy Brit to tell us how to get our country back , what a fucking typical arrogant , self righteous blue blood piece of shit ! Like you know to figure out our country you dumb fucking turd ! We had to fight for our independence against you fucking scum bag british , not to mention how you fucked India and Hong Kong pussy boy . What about the I.O.U for saving you panzy ass from Hitler little boy? I train two hours a day bro I'll beat you down fagot
jjj255able 2 months ago
@jjj255able i am not brittish marther farker i am Australian which means your wrong again Australia has been in every war you dumb cunts have invented for your fat corporate banks to get richer in the last 120 years all u need to worry about is fema camps marther farker your own greedy rockerfellers want you CHIPPED and herded like COWS shut up and get your self ready to take out your country's elite because there think taking out russia and china will save them it wont it it wiil be the end
insanenbrain 2 months ago
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@insanenbrain
You call us Cow's and yet you Australians gave up your guns quickly, without a fight, with a minimum of bleating and I might add with your CUNTS shivering. So much for the bullshit Crocodile Dundee Image..right mate? I guess you should call yourselves.
The Mutton From Down Under!
Play your Didgeridoo Blue--Play your Didgeridoo--All together now!---Give me your guns now sport---Give me your guns now---sheep don't need guns sport---so hand em over right now!
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@All @wolfwilliams is a TROLL!!!!
FrankCIanton 4 months ago
@All @wolfwilliamsis a TROLL
FrankCIanton 4 months ago
Be glad those police on the bridge didn't see you trying to get their attention! Because after this incident, whoever knew to much died, many of them mysteriously, count your lucky stars pal!
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This Evil LBJ statement WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
cruisersism 5 months ago
The government is not in charge. They are not hiding anything. If they were, they would be many steps behind.
studp1 5 months ago
so this dude gordon is standing right next to "badgeman" who is kililng the president? why would he do it standing around people?
STATUSthesleepers 5 months ago
Let's say.... I'm a conspirator. I want JFK dead. I plan the assassination and decide that the BEST place to do it is in the open surrounded by witnesses and high-rise buildings potentially full of people who could see, where I can plant my shooters and hope -- HOPE!! -- no one sees them. Real geniuses, these conspirators..... What a joke. Oswald, alone, deal with it. The sooner you all get over all the hokus pokus of conspiracy theory, the sooner you'll regain your sanity.
wolfwilliams 6 months ago
@wolfwilliams with your detective and deduction skills they don't have to be geniuses a simple cover story will do.
coolrog7564 6 months ago
@coolrog7564 The problem with people like you is that you buy into this propaganda philosophy that "the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it," and you think the common citizen is a dope willing to have the wool pulled over his eyes. Cover story, my ass. People do not have to be government shills to examine things and see for themselves that these conspiracy theories are the purest kinds of pure nonsense. We're not "buying the government's story." We just see more clearly than you do.
wolfwilliams 6 months ago
@wolfwilliams hey thanks for straightening me out. I should have realised that crimes that create a national and international power and policy shift are only done by lone nutjobs and small rogue factions. now that you have pointed out that all the evidence that points to a conspiracy is just pure coincidence we can all rest easy.
coolrog7564 6 months ago
@coolrog7564 Evidence pointing to a conspiracy? Then why hasn't 50 years of dogged pursuit by you guys turned up anything substantial? I know... the government is one step ahead of you at every turn, foiling you again and again. And the "policy shift".... Give us a break. There are always groups that hate the policies of the person in charge. Just because that person gets killed doesn't lead logically to a conspiracy. You guys have wanted to see conspiracy from the beginning, so you created one.
wolfwilliams 6 months ago
@wolfwilliams Exactly there is no such thing as a conspiracy. I can't even fathom why the word is still listed in the dictionary. look up colonel fletcher prouty. he has first hand knowledge of how the intelligence community works.
coolrog7564 6 months ago
@coolrog7564 Right.... because there have been conspiracies means that all things are necessarily conspiratorial. That's quite a leap you're implying. "Illogical" is also in the dictionary, but that doesn't mean every word you type fits that modifier.... Oh, wait.....
wolfwilliams 6 months ago
@wolfwilliams Thank you for an interesting conversation but all you really do is set up strawmen and knock them down.
coolrog7564 6 months ago
@coolrog7564 Bro... there is nothing substantial to debate here. It has been 50 years and not an inch of movement in the direction of verifying any of these conspiracy theories. The government can NOT have been able to hide all the shit you guys claim they've hidden. It's time for the CT diehards to come in from the cold.. or come out and play... or whatever. There really is nothing left to see here....
wolfwilliams 5 months ago
@wolfwilliams they have been stonewalling,redacting and sending out misinfo for 50 years not to mention there are still many classified documents not available. good luck in the future strawman you're going to need it.
coolrog7564 5 months ago
@wolfwilliams Go make some cookies!!! TROLL!!
FrankCIanton 4 months ago
@FrankCIanton You again.....? As intelligent as ever, I see. Go flip a few more burgers, or pump a little more gas, Jethro....
wolfwilliams 4 months ago
@wolfwilliams bullits came from different directions equals to CONSPIRACY, that's how simple it is
hans1559 4 months ago
@hans1559 Hmmm... Where to begin? First, they're called "bullets." Second, it's "equates to" or "equals," not "equals to." Third.... Three bullets, from the same direction, even the same gun!!! THAT'S how simple it is...
wolfwilliams 4 months ago
The fat fuck with the glasses sounds like a fat old fucking fool who now wants attention.....He is fucking crying and "NOW" mentioning that he did actually see this railroad man....gtfo, Put 2 and 2 together, if you heard a shot behind you and then the president is dead from a gunshot...that happend to be behind you then thats the assassin...but no dont say anything or try to or get attention of authorities that those guys went that way or something.
Marspilot8 6 months ago
. This man in the film (Gordon Arnold) was the one witness who probably got the best view of the assasination. He was right on the grass knoll by the shooters and filmed it all. But the CIA took his film immediately after the shooting and we will probably never see it
MirrorImageOfYou 6 months ago
James Files was the man he saw behind the fence... he confessed it was him.
MirrorImageOfYou 6 months ago
lol so fake.... deaf guy says he " suspiciously saw 2 men 2 hundreds yards away in a parking lot?" who the hell looks suspicious at 2 hundred yards away???? how can u tell ?
LiftAngry 6 months ago
Surprised they didn't try to silence Ed Hoffman..oh wait never mind.
JENDALL714 6 months ago
just brilliant... these guys should file for reopening the case! LHO was just the guinea pig in this case!
tigersoup 7 months ago
ohmygoodness:(
Simone2true4U 7 months ago
Either this guy is lying, or Gordon Arnold is lying, Gordon Arnold said after he heard a shot badgeman jumped over the fense and kicked him and took his camera.... then took off. Ed Hoffman is saying badgeman shot then handed over the gun to the other guy and took off.
LiftAngry 8 months ago
@LiftAngry he didnt hand over the gun immediately... you are not linking it correcly.... listen again!
tigersoup 7 months ago
@tigersoup files said he was dressed like a railroad worker, badegman is def not wearing rail road worker clothes.
LiftAngry 7 months ago
they should measure the height of gordon arnold in the picture, like they did to badgeman on discovery, and see if gordon arnold is the same heigth as the gordon arnold in the picture
LiftAngry 7 months ago
his military card will tell him his heigth at his age in the picture
LiftAngry 7 months ago
I believe that the truth about the assasination of President JFK will be discovered one day. It must happen. There is no possibiliy that no one will tell the truth, it had to be plenty of people in the conspiracy. It often happens that people want to tell the truth before going to die. There is high likelyhood that some of them watch these materials. Guys do not be silent any more.! You have the human duty to reveal the truth, do not wait, otherwise you will go to the worst place in the hell.
md131 8 months ago
Hard to believe this guy. He says he tried to tell the FBI and they didn't want to listen and offered him money. How could he have had that kind of conversation, he's deaf mute!?
r1o9s8s6 8 months ago
@r1o9s8s6 just because he is deaf mute doesnt mean that he cant communicate with people. its called sign language. i believe that he is fully capable of having a conversation..
Jillee111 7 months ago
Dorothy Kilgallen, a crime reporter of the New York Journal, obtained a private interview with Jack Ruby. She told friends that she had information that would "break the case wide open". Aware of what had happened to Bill Hunter and Jim Koethe, she handed her interview notes to her friend Margaret Smith. On 8th November, 1965, Kilgallen, was found dead. It was reported she had committed suicide. Her friend, Margaret Smith, died two days later.
ed11561 8 months ago
2:28" I went to the FBI.They offered me money to keep quiet.They didn't want me to say anything." SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW -ANOTHER INSIDE JOB.FBI-CIA-SECRET SERVICE-FUCKING TRAITORS-MAY THEY BURN IN HELL.
ed11561 8 months ago
What this REALLY boils down to is this. Do we have a secret enclave of people working with the CIA , FBI and organized crime who have hijacked our Constitutional Republic, and do WHATEVER they please, while lying to and deceiving the American Public? Is it time that we DEMAND TRUTH? I think it is way overdue. We are being LIED to OVER and OVER by criminals who have ruined the USA.
WillSee11 9 months ago
@WillSee11 Do we have a secret enclave of people working with the CIA , FBI and organized crime who have hijacked our Constitutional Republic, and do WHATEVER they please.
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.THE USA HAD BEEN TAKEN OVER BY SCUM EVER SINCE JFK WAS KILLED.
RFK WAS STOPPED AS SOON AS HE GOT STARTED-everyone knew he would be the next presdent. Everything since then has been LIES & MORE LIES.
ed11561 8 months ago
how come the color enhaced photos only "enhance" the blue shirt and yellow helmut but not the green leaves on the trees?
rab200 9 months ago
i still subscribe to a conspiracy theory, but this looks like a hoax
rab200 9 months ago
people have to remember when you are involed in a event either on purpose or not things slow down and you do remember every little detail ,especialy somthing as dramatic as this was there is no dout there was a conspriacy. i wish i was wrong i really do but greed is the root of all evil the greed of the goverment started on this day and has continued to this very moment. i still love my country but just like a cheating spouce you may still love them but you'll never trust the same way again
myfriendangel1 9 months ago
This is incredible!
whitethronebooks 9 months ago
seeing his reaction after all these yrs, idk if you could fake something like that..he looked like he saw something he didnt want to see deal.
MrRothstein44 11 months ago
Ok Oswald shot twice one missed and the other struck him in the back which then exited out of his neck.The grassy knolls shot which I believe some one shot from there but it was just a distraction so WILLIAM GREER the driver can take the fatal head shot that's why he keeps looking back to see if he's dead there is no other reason for a CIA AGENT to slow to a near stop in a situation like that.He then later that week got promoted it's on file you can look it up.GREER did it left hand chest high.
HebrewHammer631 11 months ago
Wow.. I just got chills down my spine seeing that colorized version of the Badgeman picture. I couldn't imagine how Gordon felt.
rylestknuckles 11 months ago
@rylestknuckles The images shown in the color photo have been added for dramatic effect. They're not there in the original Moorman photo which is a black and white Poloroid. Arnold was not there the day of the assassination regardless of what he says. He said "Badgeman" shot at the president, climbed over the fence and demanded Arnold surrender his film while kicking him. Meanwhile, scores of people in Dealey are running towards the knoll and they don't see Arnold. His story is a fabrication.
LoneNutter1 11 months ago
@LoneNutter1 Those "scores of people" were in a state of hysteria, partner. People in that state of mind don't take the time to memorize little details.
whitethronebooks 9 months ago
@whitethronebooks Little details? According to Arnold he was in plain sight. There were few people on the knoll at the time of the shooting. So if there are hundreds of people running towards the knoll someone should have seen Arnold on the ground while a man in a police uniform was kicking him. Jean Hill and Mary Mooreman never saw Arnold. Neither did Charles Brehm or Abraham Zapruder who would have been less than 30 feet away to Arnold's left. Arnold's story is a complete fabrication.
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@LoneNutter1 your talking bullshit, do u honestly believe what your saying? look again you blind bollix.
cruisersism 9 months ago
@cruisersism Let's look at your message;
"your talking bullshit" No capital letter, wrong use of "You're and a curse word "do u honestly believe what your saying?" No capital letter again, u is not a word, believe what your (you're) saying? "look again you blind bollix." Again, no capital letter but finish with an insult.
What specifically should I be looking at?
If you could arrange to reply in a manner that respects the language and the reader I'd be happy to hear from you.
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
hes death and mute what if hes lying?
MrDewcore 1 year ago
yeah, that deaf guy just happened to noticed an awful lot in a short amount of time...The fish stories continue to grow and more people are there as the years go by...Heck, I was there and I wasn't even born yet....
76reliant 1 year ago
ed hoffman's own dad called him out as a total fraud with this story.
jacktorse28 1 year ago
If anyone has any doubts about this piece please read "Head Shot".
landis444 1 year ago
grassy gnolls man missed though or else jfk head woulda moved possiblymore to the left first, it almost goes stright back leading me to beleive the driver did hit em but the shooters were all over and even one in the drain system that is also right where the grassgnoll man is. There areother videos showing bullets of all kinds hitting the cars window frame at top, lots of shots were fired again i think the head shot came from in the car.
RobMonty248 1 year ago
Ed Hoffman is one of the, if not THE most reliable, believable witness in this entire episode. At least that's my opinion.
zenmeister451 1 year ago
Badgeman was later confirmed to have been seen 20 miles east of the shooting, puffing a Cuban getting head from a puerto rican babe. His hands still greasy and the outline of a .222 shell in his back left zipper pocket. Nile Fluser who allegedly saw but didn't hear him was coincidentally another deaf mute that FBI agents couldn't understand. A picture of the grassy knoll was taken in full 1080i HD from a supposed time traveler with an advanced Chinese camera phone but was confiscated immediatel
BasicallyImPro 1 year ago
@uranorexic - Yeah thanks for that pal. Ever thought that the fact I was questioning it sorta implied I didn't quite believe it because things didn't add up. And damn I posted that a YEAR ago :S
Darvinho9 1 year ago
@uranorexic it couldn't possibly be that they are standing on something?! OPen up your mind pal.
andy413 1 year ago
IM SORRY BUT YOU CANT FAKE THOSES FEELINGS ! HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH
bamerloko23 1 year ago
CRAZY !
bamerloko23 1 year ago
The badge man was the officer who was supposedly shot by Oswald after the shooting, and was also used as JFK's autopsy body.
TPBXDRicky420 1 year ago
Read James Ellroy's "American Tabloid" It gives a very intruiging but (fictional) account of how the conspiracy may have played out.
This was a well planned and executed hit on the most guarded man of the time and anyone who believes the Hoover's or Warrens description of events is simply deluded
milly100 1 year ago
HOGWASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrJuanlennon 1 year ago
4:28 onwards fails to convince me in any way.
0oPadmano0 1 year ago
evidence like this is a helluva lot more convincing than any of that Warren Commission garbage..
reefergladness 1 year ago 21
May Gordon Arnold live/rest in peace....i can totaly understand his pain. If i could, i would shoot every corrupt asshole in our Govt. I hope they read this too, cause they are cunts and the biggest pussies on this planet. Fuck them and if there is a hell, i hope they burn and get a pinnapple shoved up their ass like hitler in that 1 movies with Adam Sandler!
derekgbraun 1 year ago
Ed Hoffman shows where he saw the shooter, by the fence on his right
facing the Elm Street but Mr. Gary Mack shows another location of the fence
facing the TSBD where he thought there was a badge man.
"HE WAS WRONG" !!!! It has been proved at "Badge Man at Grassy Knoll clip"
Verdelufe 1 year ago
im beginning to think that oswald was working under cover for the FBI to gather information to help shut these people down in the CIA and was set up to be the fall guy for the shooting. thats why hoover had all records of oswald destroyed after the shooting took place.
39tommyboy 1 year ago
The guy on the left in the interview at the end also was in another documentary where he believed Oswald acted alone......also shown on cable TV......which one was correct? Are they trying to confuse the issue? Naaah, yeah right.
brokencasket 1 year ago
@brokencasket Sorry for posting 2 months later, but that dude on the left is Gary Mack. His story changed after he became custodian of the 6th floor museum in the Texas Schoolbook Depository in later years. Wanna keep your job?.. tell e/one Oswald did it from the sniper's nest up there. They tell me one isn't actually allowed to look out of the window though, in case one sees the chance of actually hitting JFK is slim.
moyadapne 1 year ago
one question please. ok its been over 40 years now since kennedy was killed and say the average age of the man involved was for instance 40 years old. ok that means most of the men are dead now or all of them. why dont they come out with the truth now and release the records if ever for the people to find out the truth????? its not like we could convict dead men now??? or is the fact. that once history is written it can never be changed????? or would we think less of our government knowing ????
39tommyboy 1 year ago
@39tommyboy
Well, what would you think of your government? His assassination allowed the current political/military mess.
brokencasket 1 year ago
@brokencasket i agree with ya. a man once said that if we knew everything that has happend in history it would set us back a 100 years. not just the jfk killing but what if there was really aliens and they told us?? would people nut out that bad to find out they walk among us?? im not saying im a alien hunter and im trying to prove it but i used the alien question as a four instance. whats your opinion??? thanks friend.
39tommyboy 1 year ago
I do wonder what all secrets the Late Ted Kennedy took to the grave with him.
The things regarding this, the assanation of his brother.
at 7:13 he's crying saying "they killed the President" and I am crying with him. We all have been. Kenedy's picture was on the mantles of American homes Who else has that honour? What other politicial leader has a honoured place on the fireplace mantles as J.F. K? Not since Lincoln or Washington. Amazing series! Thanks for posting it here!
clarencecmcgee 1 year ago
We have 25+ yrs b4 they release all the docs to make sure everybody
will be dead that was alive then. It was unilaterally allowed 2 happen
at all levels globally 2 prevent WW3 &to stop Camelot
of what JFK tried to accomplish. JFK was the last Pres
that had total control of the direction of the country and everybody in
high places didn't want to go that way because it didn't benefit them.
It was the perfect murder. WATCH THE STURGIS STORY! We were
seconds from global Nuclear annihilation.
blurpybutt 1 year ago
I followed this event since I was 8 yrs old&saw Oswald's
murder on live b&w tv at my grandmothers house&she told
me to never forget it&follow it because it was history&I did just that.
I've read&watched everything I could4decades. With creditable
witnesses dieing mysteriously,&the WC circus,&everybody in high
places hating Kenendy,the mafia,Cuba,CIA,Castro,ColdWar crisis
threat of Nuke War,like Mic Jagger sang in Sympothy for the Devil,
"who killed the Kenedys when after all it was you&me".
blurpybutt 1 year ago
The United States Government goes and pulls off a thing like Watergate and then it wants me to believe that the JFK assassination wasn't a conspiracy, too? I'm not buying it. Yes, I know that Watergate happened after the assassination, but a government that is corrupt enough to do something like Watergate wouldn't shrink from participating in an assassination.
rickyfan3956 1 year ago
sorry but the deaf guy is full of bs because sam hollan and two cops along with 2 other railroad workers were watching the motorcade from the rr overpass where the deaf guy claims the rifle was handed off.....holland and party witnessed the shooting from about twenty feet behind this guy......bs
migo53333 1 year ago
hey local punk 101, if you read the other comments most other people that have informed themselves have realized that all the conspiracy crap was people like you blaming the govt. for all their problems , refusing to believe that in a free society anybody as low as oswald could actually be guilty of this, this was no different than sirhan, or hinkley or j e ray , back in 64 the kennedys and the warren commision knew this , keep reading all your conspiracy theories
MultiJoeyo 1 year ago
EVERYBODY KILLED JFK
2uentindward 1 year ago
there was no badgeman , it`s all baloney , so many people have made so much money on books claiming all kinds of things even confessing to being one of the shooters, the echo in dealy plaza made many people think there was a shooter nearby but science has proven the 3 shots came from the book depository `s 6 flr , many witnesses recanted their strories later , history chanells the magic bullet debunks all the conspiracy crap and all the shooters
MultiJoeyo 1 year ago
@MultiJoeyo That's right. Keep drinking the Kool-aid. Pull the covers over your head and go back to sleep. Your masters like it when you lick their boots.
localhero101 1 year ago 6
They killed Jesus, Kennedys, Ghandi, King, etc.... all men to do good because they have EVIL HEARTS !!
luap123311 1 year ago
DEAF-MUTE WITNESS SAID THE SMOKE PUFF CAME FROM THE
PICKED FENCE ALONG THE ELM STREET ABOUT 20 FROM THE CORNER.
This video insist in the badge man being by the retaining wall with the head the
size of cat, wich has been proved that is impossible by the analysis of
the " BADGE MAN AT GRASSY KNOLL"
Verdelufe 1 year ago
Ed Hoffman has been changing his story for years. Even members of his immediate family have reported to authorities about this. Ed is not a credible witness. In addidtion, Gordon Arnold would have appeared in the Mary Mooreman Polaroid photo that Gary Mack used to create the myth of Badge Man. Even Arnold has been changing his story as well. Sorry folks, there's nothing here. It's all made up and altered to make the "evidence" fit the story.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Many other witnesses saw the puff of smoke
in the same spot like he did, Along Elm street by the fence.
The disguise used by the shooter and the railroad man
make sense because no cop saw anybody after the shooting.
So far he makes a lot of sense. Now show me where at Youtube
shows Ed Hoffman's family saying he change his stories.
Probably his family were threaten or paid money to discret him.
P.S. Do not need to be only Youtube show his family making
comments anywhere.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@Verdelufe You posted the same message on another site. You can read my reply there.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 With all due respect. VINCENT BUGLIOSI
who believes in a lone assassin,You must be kidding!!!!
If you believe everything in his book then you don't belive LBJ
is major cumplice. I talk about apples and you about bananas.
You already has your mind set up when you say " As family threats
please, get real. " Remember how many die who talk too much
or was witness, A LOT OF THEM DIED." I guess when you see
"Rush to Judgment " or the "TMWKK" you just do not believe anything.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
Sorry - but you foolish and ignorant "conspiracy theorists" look at ANYTHING and can put some sort of spin on it!
LHO was a lonely, pathetic, misguided soul with NOTHING to live for and who desperately sought attention in the only way he knew how. What better way than to kill the most powerful person on the planet??
GET A LIFE in trying to explain this away!!
howboutyomama 1 year ago
@howboutyomama Im not gonna say he wasnt there to shoot the president but i will tell you he did not shoot him....The fatal head shot was from the front, and the shot that hit the presidents back was not from oswald because if it was, it would not have passed through JFK's body at the angle needed to hit connely who was in front of him.
Timinater1994 1 year ago
@Timinater1994 THE FIRST SHOT WAS FATAL TOO !!!!
The neck wound was a entrance shot, WC says that was
a exit wound. Notice Z film slow motion JFK being pushed
against the seat violently right after the sign then he grabbed
his neck. The autopsy report was altered. JFK might never
been hit from the back from no one. Go see the clip
"BULLET HOLES AT LIMOUSINE" they sent this car to Detroit
replaced the windshield and no forensic analyses were made
The real sign of the conspiracy.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
Back in the 90s I bought a video tape with an interview conducted by a reporter interviewing a prisoner named James Files. Files said he killed Kennedy from the Grassy Knoll. I also believe Gordon Arnold and see no reason why he would make up such a story. With the photographic evidence makes the argument even the more compelling.
Rock123 1 year ago
For years I've wondered and often thought that Kennedy was Murdered by our Government but never have I heard of such a compelling arguments and If these men are telling the truth, and I belive they are, then some one or something should be done. This evidence should be comprised with others and a D.A, with some BALLS needs to stand up and do something. It's my belief that because JFK spoke out against a secret sociaty then this would be why he was killed.
wesleymcculloch2 1 year ago
mind-blown
is this legit??!!
maidaid 1 year ago
there was 2 oswalds. Jesse Ventura > Warren Commision (who nixon admited on his tapes was just a hoax in america)
beezyb42011 1 year ago
Vincento Adamello Brenta Bugliosi is ABSOLUTELY NOT interested in the real matter off the assassionation, he is however very interested and determent in a disney attempt to proove that the WC was right
300 million suckers fooled by 8 buffoons and also buffoons do indeed get children
Vincento is one off those
kodiakbeer1 2 years ago
I believe Arnold & Senator Yarborough.
LBJ tried to get Jackie Kennedy to sit in his car & Yarborough to sit with JFK. That way he could kill two men he loathed at once, & not have to risk getting Jackie shot too or having to feel guilty for blowing her husband's brains all over her. But JFK said No, he wanted his wife with him.
The video is on YouTube by the way, one of JFK's aides tells what happened.
ROCKSLIDZ 2 years ago
do you make the testimony of those two men(young army guy+ man on the bridge at the time)a lie...??
aligoulou 2 years ago
meaning it could not have been oswald..... but his rifle and paperbag etc all found at the scene.......6th floor.?
some of this does not make sense unless he was working for ............who?.......who betrayed him?
with oswald acting alone and a seperate gunman
doesnt make sense.............
ebillyboi 2 years ago
the railroad man looks to the book depository building?
this to cover the action they were doing by firing as soon as oswald or someone does?
oswald prints on boxes and rifle found on sixth floor.
the audio tape of the bullet shots shows the shots were too close to be one gunmen .with a .bolt action rifle....
how did they know it was going to occur at that precise moment?
if oswald is acting alone as a gunmen as is suggested and would not tell anyone how did they know he was going to fire etc?
ebillyboi 2 years ago
@ebillyboi beacause oswald didnt act alone......he didnt realize that he would take the fall.....he was the patsy......
migo53333 2 years ago
the fact is the exit wounds indicate a synchronized hit...
professional. as a team to make sure.....
looks like inside job.....suiting everybody
mafia....cia
ebillyboi 2 years ago
The more you dig into the assassination the more the liar and mentally ill line up, Arnold, Hoffman, Ruby, Cooper, and the hit just keep on coming. This doc has been banned in England because of all the lawsuits it has created, a total scam
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
I'm surprised they didn't sell grassy Knoll coloring books after this stunt...
jay1jam 2 years ago
lol @ 2:31 "they didn't want me to SAY anything" "they wanted me to KEEP Quiet" lol....
loupremo 2 years ago
shit thats actualy what happend there are just 3 stories told semperatley without knowing eachothers that allighn perfectly shit shit shit thats real
lawrencebaxter10 2 years ago
Yes, and NONE of the other couple of hundred witnesses in Dealey Plaza confirm Arnold's story. Zapruder and Sitzman would've seen Arnold, if he were really there. If Yarborough could see him from the car, many more people would also have seen him.
AlfonsM 2 years ago
You haven't seen the first part of this piece where Mary Moorman took a picture that shows this man. And this guy Gordon left the next day for Korea as a soldier.
xander7ful 2 years ago
Arnold said that three days later he reported for his pre-assassination-scheduled transfer to the U.S. Army's Fort Wainwright in Alaska
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
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Geeez, how much shit can you people take from me?
I tell you my lone-nut shit, because I know you are a gullible moron. So get your toilet paper ready because here it comes. Long and slimy shit.
"The government will never lie to you. Do not believe any good people who say Conspiracy. Do not think about anything, just accept what government says".
And above all else, the next time you read my lies, do not think: "Am I a gullible moron"?
cdddraftman 2 years ago
7;04 and he nearly chokes on his fear....cannot say I blame him....
zertina 2 years ago
Ethrion ...Gordon Arnold was filming the parade, he didn't see anyone shoot the president. THe man he saw was in a police uniform and took his film, weren't you listening?
MuzikLady22 2 years ago
I don't believe that the shooter was behind the fence, because i have seen a photo of kennedys head with the bullet right in the back, so doesn't it mean that the shooter was behind kennedy, not next to..? that's just my theory..
EnergyDog23 2 years ago
How would a deaf mute know that there is now proof that there was a supposed railroad worker there when no one has ever said anything about it. Also, the FBI was directly linked to the coverup retard
TheHimalayanGorilla 2 years ago
I believed the guy, until he said the F,B.I tried to pay him off lmao
Cleveland1012 2 years ago
I believe he could be telling the truth because red neck southerners and wasp FBI agents are often types who are ignorant enough to consider deaf/mutes simpletons, and can be made to go away just like children, by offering them candy - or money. I know people like that.
orsonwagon 2 years ago
LOL this Ed Hoffman has been proven to be a bullshitter. Gordon Arnold was another opportunist who, like so many people, decided to place himself in a historical event.
sudaev 2 years ago
how is it he was in the picture? if i say i was there too will i magically appear in a photograph as well? let me try it
Dollarbob 2 years ago
God Bless Gordon Arnold. I feel your pain. I'm 53 and while i still have a breath of air in me ,I will never rest until the truth is told.
TheJetfighter666 2 years ago 20
@TheJetfighter666
u are nothing..just a fucking bug..like most humans..most are losers..like little bugs who are here and then die..and u think your life is so important when it isnt..its nothing...your just like a bug...disposable....so fuck off....
ChiroQuacker 1 year ago
@ChiroQuacker I am just helping people like you, Who can't think for themselves .Why so hostile??Does this strike a nerve?? Was it your grand daddy?? You can't stop a snowball thats been rolling for 45 years Pal, So deal with it or go comment on Justin Beaver, That's about your speed!
TheJetfighter666 1 year ago
@TheJetfighter666
i have a huge boner...so i got that going for me.
ChiroQuacker 1 year ago
When I saw this film,I thought these guys are all nutters! Seeing faces in bushes then painting faces & figures proves nothing.I saw faces on the wallpaper on my bedroom wall,when I was a kid,but I was delirious at the time!-What's their excuse? -& the witnesses all contradict each other,so who can we believe?
arvo56 2 years ago
gordon arnold was the muse for the song "gordon is a moron"
he's a liar you divs
JollymanAceofcards 2 years ago
What I don't understand is how Gordon Arnold could have been stood so close to the 'badgeman' and the guy wearing the hard hat and to not have noticed that the 'cop' was carrying a rifle and who would have been aiming it. I mean in the photo he is stood pretty much right next to them behind the fence. Also the guy in the suit who told him to get out of the area basically moved Arnold right down to where 'badgeman' was. Could someone clear this up for me please?
Ethrion006 2 years ago 5
he's not standing next to them, the three figures are just aligned that way in the photo. he was standing several feet in front of the fence (on the plaza side) and they were behind the fence.
prismaticmarcus 2 years ago
The thing is, this old fashioned, restored picture has inadequate depth perception. The badge man and train worker (if there were any) would have been quite a few feet behind Gordon. Gordon in the 1st part clarified he was clearly in front of the fence and he pointed to where he thought he heard the gunfire from. This was before he had even seen this photo. The photo confirmed that where he pointed out as the source of the gunfire was the exact spot the badgeman would be in.
MarxKnewBest 2 years ago
Find it funny how conspiracy theorist will see a shooter in this blob, yeat when they are shown ironclad evidence that it was LHO all alone they are called shills
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
@Obelisk2290 what ironclad evidence......he was setup... just like anyone else can be set up.....
migo53333 2 years ago
@migo53333 if you are so inclined Read Reclaiming History, his bio and the more than 4 dozen pieces of evidence and how unstable he was
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
@Obelisk2290 and who wrote this book?...obelisk.....
migo53333 2 years ago
@migo53333 Vincent Bugliosi. 1,664 Physical Pages (plus 1,128 pages on accompanying CD-ROM containing over 10,000 citations and footnotes plus all testimony from WC plus the HSCA).
40 Chapters,
32 Pages of Photos/Illustrations.
6 Pages of Charts/Diagrams.
71-Page Index.
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
@Obelisk2290 this guy in the vid is totally lying because sam holland and others were right there on the overpass at precisely this moment.....
migo53333 2 years ago
@migo53333 which guy, ed hoffman, beverly oliver, jean hill and gordon arnold have changed their story since the 70's since money was waved in their faces. Gordon Arnold claimed that badge men beat him wife the rifle he shot JFK with in front of the crowd, he was one disturbed individual
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
@Obelisk2290 only heard of jean hill....gorden arnold story doesnt matter....I"ll listen to people like sam holland and his buddies on overpass...and there description of what they saw behind wooden fence....cigarette buts footprints in mud and on bumper all makes sense......oh and all of these workers who witnessed this were not asked to testify before that sham called the WC........
migo53333 2 years ago
@migo53333 what do cigarrete butts and mudd on bumpers have to do with assassination. Also remember that the WC was made up of reps and dems who never agree on anything plus many assistants and lawyers no chance of conspiracy
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
@Obelisk2290 you dont know the details do you??? youtube sam holland to start..and then checkout how much testimony was deleted.......sorry my friend same people that wacked jfk, wacked rfk.......
migo53333 2 years ago
@migo53333 iknow who holland and jk simmons and roger craig is
Obelisk2290 2 years ago
@Obelisk2290 roger craig was adallas cop who did his own investigation and died because of it..........just another coincedental premature death of those people who tried to ask questions.......
migo53333 2 years ago
@Obelisk2290 and I'll ask u again why would the men who were on the overpass never called to testify?????