Gaza: Beyond the blockade

[AbuAvital]

Thinly veiled arab propoganda. Far from unbiased news.

[thetruth4uguys]

Naval blockades are a legitimate instrument that states employ for self-defense

Britain had Dutch coast under blockade in 1799.

Britain had French under blockade in 1806.

Britain had Denmark under blockade in 1807.

Saudi Arabia declared that it was placing a naval blockade on the Red Sea Coast of Yemen in November 2009

the UN itself instituted a blockade of Iraq after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990

Cuba was under the U.S blockage in 1962.

[Tobias8164]

if u had taken my land destroyed my home killed my familie memmers. I wouldt call u israeli terrorrist for innocent..

[Tobias8164]

i´m gonna... bitch ur not gonna do or say shit. u terrorist.

just remember. what goes around comes around.

[Tobias8164]

if u had taken my land destroyed my home killed my familie memmers. I wouldt call u israeli terrorrist for innocent..

no one had died from the rockets. its just another chance for u scums to do more damange. to kill more children. murder more palestinian womens.

there has been more incedens where palestinian familie has donated there organs to save u israeli scums.

[Tobias8164]

israel is a terro nation. it should be wiped of the map.

as israeli terro forces the do everyday in palestine.

[ahmeddeedatsatan]

FUCK ISraeLAM !!!!

LOL

[nasir440]

3. Israeli Northern District Commissioner Israel Koenig:

We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.

'Hashomeir Hatsaeer' newspaper 1976

[nasir440]

2. April 13, 1983 article by Gad Becker in the Israeli daily, Yediot Ahronot

The Arabs will never win over us by throwing stones. Our response must be a nationalist Zionist response. For every stone thats thrownwe will build ten settlements. If 100 settlements will existand they willbetween Nablus and Jerusalem, stones will not be thrown. If this will be the situation, then the Arabs will only be able to scurry around like drugged roaches in a bottle.

[nasir440]

1.French-Israeli journalist, Amnon Kapeliouk, did attribute a quote to Begin New Statesman, June 25, 1982 article criticizing Israels invasion of Lebanon. The author posited:

For this reason the government has gone to extraordinary lengths to dehumanize the Palestinians. Begin described them in a speech in the Knesset as "beasts walking on two legs".

[usergently]

Zionists pigs!

[kaholeanyim]

If you see Gazans face to face you will see animalistic hatred, aggression, and monstrous expressions that can't be normal under any circumstance.Boxing them in and feeding them sedatives are the only solution to an overly inbred animal such as the Gazans; if we had four legged animals that behaved the same, we would kill them.

[n8glenn]

Racist.

[kaholeanyim]

we have a right to actively, and aggressively defend ourselves. When confronted with crazies, passive defense just doesn't work.

After the Israeli war of independence several thousand Arabs came into Israel and moved to Gaza; now there are over a million. Do you think people rushed to Gaza to marry and live there? The original few thousand intermarried and produced again & again until there is now a population of people similar to the AnimalPeople from Will Smith's movie "I am legend".

[fuelairburst]

here,s a nice thought,a lot of hamas will not see the sunrise tomorrow.

[see8no8evil]

fuelairburst: Do you know that you are admitting your lust for killing children? Israel kills children! Israel must die! We don't want you scum on this planet ! We don't want baby killers in the world.

[fuelairburst]

one israeli is worth atleast 100 palestinians so it,s running about right

[n8glenn]

You are wrong. Your life is not worth any more than any one else's, even if that life belongs to one of the races which you deem to be beneath you. You are not the chosen race, you're not the master race, you're just a racist.

[YasharMJ]

zionists beleive they are the "chosen people" !

zionism is just another form of racism and nazism!

[luxcretia2]

and all "3 great" religions believe they are the "one and only path" to whatever....

that`s a dangerous way of thinking

[fuelairburst]

with all that depleted uranium around gaza,s power shortages will be solved. the whole dump will glow in the dark,problem solved thanx to the IAF

[Neil708]

We are really concerned about the plight of people at Gaza.

Let's send our peace to them through our prayers, meditation, etc.

[DenVette73]

what morons these towel heads are, Ireal will not take the shit from your puny rockets, proportinate responce, kick the shit out of these masc draped scumbags, a dead muslim makes a happy American, Twintowers

[philipdcrusader]

Its no propaganda, my friend. When Hamas send rockets to Israel there is already a reason to attack Gaza. Its logic, my friend and that's the reason the world leaders are silent when bombs rain in Gaza. Yes, people are waking up to realize that any rocket will have disproportionate response. Look at Hizbollah now, they are now afraid to attack Israel because they know the devastating consequence. Im glad you laugh. At least, here is a glimmer of hope for your idiocy.

[Babay70]

"Это не война Израиля с Палестиной, это война третьего тысячелетия с первым. Воюют не разницы в религиях или экономике, а разницы в цивилизациях.

[zapataella]

we need an international brigagade.again...lets fight!!!!

[lonovik]

All Zionazi terrorist pigs must be nukes, They are talking about shity thugs occupier citizens but they are oppressing the native people, This is violation of international law. Why was international community silent on this ?

[engsolom2000]

after allmost 7 days of the israeli strikes,430 palestenians were killed,2200 injured,while in israel,4 deaths,30 injuries!!!250 palestenian HOME MADE rockets were launched!!hundreds of tons of israeli bombs were thrown on gaza from an israeli US made f-16s and apatchi choppers!!!!30% of the palestenian deaths is in women and childreen(UN onrwa),gaza is the most populated area in the world.50 % of gaza inhappitants r under 20 years old.chek the numbers so u be sure am not bullshiting u!

[thia1955]

Israel(zionists) is not the problem because they are invader do not accept good thing from them. The real shame is the arabs they are coward and can not do anything and they just blame on their leaders(puppets for the west). I am ashame to be an arab because just recenlty in Greece because the police killed one person and the whole people stood up but the coward arabs would just blame it on their puppets without doing anything. Arabs just can not talk and their faggats and trators... very sad..

[philipdcrusader]

How can we provide a secured land for Palesti nians when they send rockets to its neighbor? Israel is not racist, otherwise there will be no Arabs, Druze, Christians, Beduoins, etc... in their land. Always treat the problems objectively.

[Migsterl]

More propaganda bullshit. PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP!!

You mention in "their" land, I just laugh at you.

[n8glenn]

I'm sorry, but any state which defines itself as NOT the state of it's citizens, but the state of a particular race is racist. The fact that the second class citizens of israel (arabs, druze, etc) have not yet been expelled completely (as many people in israel openly propose doing) means nothing. No one could deny that they are not given the same significance as jews in israel. If they were, it would be a sorry excuse for a "jewish state".

[res05aum]

neglenn said "I'm sorry, but any state which defines itself as NOT the state of it's citizens, but the state of a particular race is racist"

And that includes all of the Islamic states that persecute non-Muslims.

[n8glenn]

Absolutely. 100% agree. Any state which persecutes non-muslims is a racist state, that seems obvious.

[musl1m]

Kurtilein3 you are an idiot. Thats just like saying 9/11 can be justified because the "non violent" people of America didnt stop the government killing 1M people in Iraq and thousands in afghanistan.

[amricaiscowardnation]

i want all people of the world to see this video and know that isreal does this with full support from the americans. so it is important for all arabs and muslims to stop trying to have friendly relations with americans. they are your enemy as you can plainly see. you must learn to hate them despise them and never trust them.

[farmr63]

amricaiscowardnation aka darkmastr1.

What a STUPID thing to say...considering that YOU are an AMERICAN yourself,LOL. You are also from the US Military (Navy). Putting "china" on your profile doesn't take away the FACT that you served on the USS Kearsarge LHD-3 from 1996-2000. Then had to change your username when you were presented with your actual comments that admitted to that.

[n8glenn]

Israel assassinates people in gaza on a regular basis, then they complain because the palestinians are launching rocket attacks. If they would stop killing palestinian leaders, the rocket attacks would stop.

[bocafutsal]

Israel should of course have been given part of Germany instead of Palestine.

[oliversinhell]

well said !

[cutegual]

Just beg to the Palestinian to work hard and free themselves, cuz we Eritrean Went through this and nobody helped us. USA,Russia and other big Western were fighting us. So the same thing is happening to Palestine.

May Allah Help you my ppl!!!

[fraud66]

Too bad Hitler didn't get to gas every jew on earth. At least he got a good number of them. Thanks Hitler!

[clyphox]

you should be ashamed of a comment like that. In germany in the 60s and 70s the students went militant and some even started killing known Nazis from those dark days.. When the riots and histeria subsided they saw they had become as bad as the facists they hated so passionatly.

I'm glad to say I owe my existence to the human love between people. i grew up as a white kid in africa and if it weren't for the peace promoted by sanity there could easily have been a bloodbath. be very weary of hate

[sullathegenius]

Hitler is pleased with your comments.

[random0815]

at the latest when the journalists get banned there should be no doubt whats happening, its a slow catastrophe and the whole west just watches it, i can already hear the "we couldnt have known", probably not even that..

[saad1505]

this is not news any more

[WhatAboutBut]

I hope your point is that its happened for so long that its not news any more??

[saad1505]

that's what I mean

[KhmerD0g]

we have a jew problem. we need a final solution to the jew problem

[5thinstar]

The Israeli Govt, has defied the U.N for over sixty years,it continues to build settlements and force out Palestinian people. This has been condemned by the U.N, it is time for Israel to be severely punished by the rest of the world, how? hmmmm,the yanks invaded a place called Iraq for it's refusal to comply with the U.N....Maybe it's time to do the same to Israel

[Webins]

The funniest part of all this, is that everyone is still expected to shed tears over the "Holocaust" every damned year.

The "Holocaust' is like a magic wand, wave it and you can do anything you want to anyone.

[MuslimGhost]

Worse than these disgusting jewish pigs are these filthy, treacherous, cowardly arabs.. especially the egyptians and jordanians.. those egyptian cowards shoot palestinian people who cross the border to try and BUY supplies for their families. Those corrupt retarded arab leaders could put an end to this with a few phone calls.

[seeker1881]

Not a mention of the Egyptians who also maintain this blockade.

[WhatAboutBut]

that's cause their puppet of a dictator is in the pockets of some people..!! (and yeah hes a dictator that's the definition when the man is been the "president" for decades)

[demerc]

the sad boring reality is one of old cliche, which is that both sides are ultimately to blame. Zionist Israel instigates but the martyrdom retributionist culture of Islam/Arabs keep the Palestinians making the same mistakes which leave them hardly blameless. Overall though, Israel is in the position of power, where they could be mature, but this will never happen and neither will the Palestinians ever stop their Vendetta mentality against Israels evil immature policy.There's not much hope.

[kurtilein3]

from an israeli perspective, it makes perfect sense.

whenever a rocket lands on israeli soil, fired from gaza, the borders will stay closed for lets say 28 hours. as soon as this time is over, the borders open. one single rocket during this time resets the counter.

either they stop firing rockets, or they will all die very soon. now the people in the gaza strip have to decide if they want to fire rockets until they die, or if they stop to get open borders.

[kurtilein3]

however, i personally think that this is too cruel.

israel needs to find a better solution. and they need to stop the whole madness with the settlements.

[WhatAboutBut]

it amazes me how stupid a remark that is.. U are actually promoting collective punishment??

Do u have any idea what that means?? Im really surprised that u believe that a 3 years old baby should get punished cause some hoodlums do something wrong..!! Is that an Israeli moral code??

[kurtilein3]

ive been playing devils advocate here. did you read both of my comments, or did you only see one of them?

by the way, the rockets coming from the gaza strip also dont care about 3-year-old children. and its the terrorists that use the normal population as a cover ;) this also invites collective punishment. if the non-violent people in the gaza strip would stop the terrorists, there would be no problem. but somehow they dont want to do it. so why shouldnt israel punish all of them?

[WhatAboutBut]

I saw ur second comment "i personally think that this is too cruel" is giving in to the fact that its on some level all right to do so. (ur accepting the underlying assumptions) Which its NOT valid! Not in a modern world, but again i dont know about Israeli morals.

Alone that u bring up an issue about terrorist not thinking about others so let us not do too, is wrong. At least NOT an argument. Ur declaring ur self as a terrorist, just so u know!

f ur last q: cause NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GUILTY

[WhatAboutBut]

u have to excuse me if im rude, but i cant stop laughing about this comment: "if the non-violent people in the gaza strip would stop the terrorists, there would be no problem". This is SOO propaganda! i hope u see the ironic in this:

If the non-violent people in the gaza strip where GODS, there would be no problems.

Yeah the children of Gaza should stop terrorists.. yeah RIGHT i dream of that too.. lol

can we assume that u believe the Israeli gov is using same tac as Palestinian terrorists?

[xxashyy]

Its just amazing how Israel gets away with these war crimes no other nation would get away with these types of abusive crimes but Israel. This makes dafur look like a walk in the park.

[electango]

War crimes? The Palestinians want to fight militarily and bomb Israeli cities and for Israel not to supply the people who are trying to kill Israelis is a war crime? What, pray tell, is a war crime in your world?

[xxashyy]

Those rockets hardly kill anything in Israel but damage good Israeli property. Meanwhile Israel continues to have a POLICY on collective punishment against the Palestinians with blockades, checkpoints, illegal settlements, F-16 bombing raids, strafing apartment houses, and using depleted uranium.

[electango]

Those rockets are rudimentary now but if replaced as intended in the future by more effective, more powerful rockets, the crews manning the rockets now will become much more dangerous. That's why Israel needs to stop them now before they get more dangerous. Actually, Israel is acting with remarkable restraint. Most other nations would react in a much more draconian manner.

[xxashyy]

The Israel's says that they're "defense" is against homemade rockets but most of the world believes those actions stack up as WAR CRIMES. I didnt make this up.

[electango]

Only losing armies commit war crimes. Is Vladimir Putin going on trial for the war crimes of the Russian Army in Chechnya? Will any Russian Army personnel go on trial for the disappearances of 200,000 Chechen Muslims? Of course not, because war crimes trials are for losers like Milosevic. Talk of war crimes is hot air.

[ferrozm]

You know Ahmudinijad misquote isn't such a bad idea after all. Wipe Israel off the map.

[chewbaca1989]

But he didn't say that. Sad thing that Israelis act like .... fill in the blank.

[ferrozm]

I know thats why I said misquote

[electango]

Have you actually thought about the effect on the whole region should Monkey Ahmedinejad's psychotic, genocidal plan come to reality? Does it concern you that perhaps millions of innocent Arab, Jewish, and Iranian civilians would die and millions more disabled for life? It concerns me that you don't think Monkey Ahmedinejad's idea isn't horrible and horrifying. Upon further reflection, it would be easier and better for humanity if Monkey Ahmedinejad were wiped off the map, don't you think?

[AcePilot101]

There is one (1) Jewish nation, i.e., Israel.

There are over 50 Islamic nations, including at least seven (7) Arab states. Why not deport all the Palestinians to Saudi Arabia or Yemen? If they can't live in peace, teach them how to swim and dump them in the ocean.

[blackiron60]

How many Israelis have died in rocket attacks? How many Palestinians have died in the response? There's your answer. Israel is an internationally recognized country with "citizens" it must protect. The Palestinians have no such status and suffer as a result - throughout the world and throughout history, those who are considered to be "non-citizens" are generally the ones who are abused with impunity by the powerful.

[mounir1426]

Realnews it was about time to cover the humanitarian disaster imposed upon Palestinians!!

(I was getting skeptical on what was judged news worthy by the RN team...)

[kurydebarcelona]

south africa

[odin422]

Killers.

[happosai21]

the jews really try anything to get rid of the arabs which are left and clinch to their own country where they were throws out by ethnic cleansing 60 years ago. i bet they would even build some gaschambers and just kill them if they could and the world wouldn't notice

[truthspeaker969]

zionism = fascism, nuff said

[charlessmyth]

If Gazans were not also dedicated to attacking & killing Egyptians supplies could come in by the Gaza-Sinai border, so Israel is blameless. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire and failure of the British Mandate, the land was open to anyone who seized it. Israel has an historic claim, but by right of conquest is legitimate within the context of an Israeli state. This why statehood is important for property rights. Gazans are not fighting for freedom, they are fighting for Islamic hegemony.

[crock703]

If the historic Israelis hadn't wiped out the Canaanites, and that diaspora had a story that entitled them to the land, would they be justified in stepping in and doing to the Israelis what they do to the Palestinians now?

This is retarded. I don't believe most Gazans are fighting for Islamic hegemony, b/c I've known some Palestinians.

If the U.S. & Israel would realize that they can end 'Islamic hegemony' w/ culture instead of power, it'd be a no-brainer.

[Rundstedt1]

It is now postulated that the ancient Israelis were the canaanites, although two different social groups of the same. What became the Isrealis were the underclass of the canaanites who revolted against the oppressive nature of their masters. But I agree with you, I don't think anyone has entitlement to the land because of some supernatural agreement. I could just as well use this new info to argue that the land should belong to the Proletarian; ancient myths should not be used as land deeds.

[charlessmyth]

Globalization may act to improve the resolution of future problems since this would enable a more uniform application of international law which could be applied to the circumstances which arise over time, when states irrevocably fail or when their territorial claims change. This is particularly difficult in regions where what have been tribal lands, are restructured as nation-states. Afghanistan, Iraq, sub-Saharan Africa, for example. Others such as Kosovo and Albania use this cynically.

[crock703]

Agreed. I see little difference between Israeli claim to entitlement of the land and Manifest Destiny.

[charlessmyth]

21st century history begins in 1948. Entitlement to land is contingent upon who can take it, hold it, use it for productive activity, use it as collateral, or trade it for other things to others of their choosing, with the rights to such activity backed up by the power of the state, which levies taxes for the service. This is capitalism, which resolves conflicts through peaceful trade & the law. And is why PALs need a stable non-Islamic state. Globalization may act to improve future problems.

[cycimian]

Charley, Unless your one of the 10 people who own all the gold on earth dont go for globalization.When a coutry looses its rights to determin through process of its own individual identity then you have the corporate raiders who soon are rewritting the Constitution like in the States, Canada, Mexico,And Ireland to name a few.When a foreign power says no you cannot develope your own energy program like in Canada with PetroCan.And your talk about NonIslam shows you dont get out of the country much

[charlessmyth]

The Muslims I have contact with, in my locality, are perfectly OK people. Race or morality is not bound by faith and/or the lifestyle which goes with it, unless a few ideologues want it to. The principle of the state is a European contrivance designed to conduct war backed up by nationalism in lieu of money. Patriots work cheap. Energy policy should not be an aspect of the state, which would avoid the complication of the interstate conflicts you expressed concerns about.

[wedapeepole]

very good comment

[crock703]

"Entitlement to land is contingent upon who can take it, hold it, use it for productive activity..."

Says who? You sound absurd, sorry.

Your statement contradicts your secondary point early that claimed Israel is entitled to the land, b/c they have a fairytale about God telling them he likes the best, and that it belongs to them.

Were the Palestinians not farming on that land for centuries?

[crock703]

I'm sure some form of capitalism will be more of a conflict diffuser than a theocracy. My point was that this conflict is backwards - the nations purporting to be founded on ideas, are trying to win the conflict w/ physical power alone.

Bill Cosby, Jim Henson, Jimi Hendrix, etc (our real cultural products) can diffuse the growth of Islamic theocracy. Its a deadbeat philosophy, but in the face of poverty and disproportionate & belligerent force from an outsider, it looks more attractive.

[charlessmyth]

Says those who take it and hold it. The Romans farmed a lot of what is now Great Britain, but I don't know of any Italians making claims on the land. The Israeli claim based on God doesn't stand up in law, but is simply a counter argument by those who believe in God.

[crock703]

All theory aside, there is no way I can look at Israel/Palestine and say that Israel is entitled to the land because - A, they were stronger; B, the Palestinians were unfortunate enough not be as far along in adopting Western-style govt and financing; C, Israel has a fairytale about entitlement that allows them to suspend their normal moral code & embrace racism w/o guilt.

[t4705mb6]

If this "news" cast was honest, the very first thing they would do is to bring up the ILLEGAL occupation of Palestine by Zionists through the ILLEGAL BALFOUR AGREEMENT.

The jews could BUY a new homeland ANYWHERE in the world if the Rothschilds would back the purchase.

The Zionists not only intend to totally MURDER all Palestinians but ANYONE that is a "non jew". Their long term goal is to kill anyone not "reformed" to their world view.

Seek the TRUTH!

[RationalLiberty]

uh, riight...

I think arguing whether israel is legitimate now is not productive and its not practical. Especially when you consider the fact that the Palestinians were offered division by the UN before 1948-they didnt accept it, Jews drove them out, they lost, and now Israel is recognised as a country due to force used half a century ago.

Israel is legitimate today. However the tactics they use to undermine palestinians are not.

[t4705mb6]

"Practical"????

You are a VERY stupid person.

[RationalLiberty]

couldnt figure out the right word there.

My point is maintained though.

Israel is a NOW a legitimate country. Everyone (meaning UN, arab states) have recognised Israel. And why?

Because of what I said.

Israel fought a war, they won in a zero sum match. Palestinians lost. When the arabs went to war to "restore" Palestine, they took the land for themselves.

Palestinians lost, especially after they were given an option to split Palestine with the Jews.

My point remains.

[crock703]

Well, it it wasn't 100 years ago, and plenty of those people still live there, and their Palestinian identity wont be washed away for several generations. Having Palestinians become a permanent diaspora will just inflame the middle east further.

You can say "tough cookies", but they wont. So b/c the problem isn't going away, and b/c their grievances are legitimate.. what's the solution? Probably one that doesn't include punishing the gen pop and sowing seeds of resentment in the next generation

[crock703]

didn't see your preceding comment..

Agree that arguing Israel's legitimacy is pointless. You pretty much contradict yourself though when you go on to list a series of failed post-war reconciliations as justification for Palestinian expulsion.

If Israelis can't diffuse the conflict with its offended former neighbors then they don't deserve exclusive use of the land, or the world's support. ylkfdava;kjdhf;jakb

[RationalLiberty]

i agree with both your comments crock703,

the part about palestinian grievances being legitmate, about palestinians inflaming the region through their being disenfranchised, through isreal screwing up and having the US sheild them, but I dont understand the part about contradicting myself through a series of postwar reconciliations.

I find that the circumstances surrounding Israel's creation with the legitimate international body acknowledging them after the war of 1948 proves their legitimacy

[t4705mb6]

I am a pragmatic person. I don't give a SHIT about religious dogma.

The FACTS are the FACTS.

Israel is a "country" the same as "jews" are a "race".

Palestine was stolen by the British & given to the Zionist Rothschilds group in exchange for the central bankers financially FORCING the US into WW I.

It was a secret DEAL!

The Zionists "Israeli" government, financed through the Rothschilds & friends world bank holdings, intend to MURDER ANYONE not supporting their "cause". KILLERS!

[RationalLiberty]

I have never heard of your "facts".

Wasnt the US forced into WWI from "neutral rights" and the sinking of the Lusitania? It may have been a bs reason anyway, but it had nothing to do with Rothschilds buying Palestine. Link me to your source.

[t4705mb6]

Read the BALFOUR AGREEMENT.

[oliversinhell]

The Lusitania was sunk in 1915 , the us didn't go to war till late in 1917  ! doesn't seem like they were in much of a hurry !

[P3coTrain]

if they want peace why dont stop the occupation of palistine!

[ArtypNk]

Israelis are assholes, just like Hamas. Attack, blockade, starvation, death, retaliation. Story of the region.

[MopacMurtaza]

In death we will find justice.