@slovan youre not the only one...thank god i'll get to play this game again when the HD collection arrives,my PS2 version is starting to break...its amazing how i can still play it though it does freeze sometimes
I'm not sure how old Solidus is meant to be but I'm pretty certain that Raiden is meant to be younger than Snake - probably early- to mid-twenties? After all, wasn't that the point - that Snake was the older, more experienced one and Raiden was younger and therefore less experienced?
The patriots erased Raiden's memory for this training,it seems ridiculous but that's the explanation given by the game.
But MGS 3 doesn't say anything about Solidus' birth, it only gives the date of the begining of "Les enfants terribles". We don't know much more about Solidus, is he born during the project? We don't know.
Solidus is Raiden father that would Solid Snake and Liquid his uncles and Big Boss is grandfather. I would what family reunion is like when those 4 men meet each other.
You've got it wonrg, Solidus is not Raiden's Biological father. Solidus killed Raiden's parents and than became his Godfather because he named him Jack.
you're right, solidus is raidens adopted father and snake is his uncle. he's got a pretty big family tree with the snakes. that's why solidus called him a monster.
''Solidus didn't seem to recognize him on the bridge but he sure does now!''
You obviously weren't paying attention to the dialogue then, when Solidus first encounters Raiden he looks at him in silence and says to himself ''where do I know him from?'' so yes he did recognise Raiden but didn't have a full confirmation on who he was at that point in the game.
Wait, at 1:35, is that a barcode on Raiden's chest? It's also continually visible troughout the rest of the clip. But he got his artificial body after MGS2, right? So what's the barcode doing on Raiden's body?
After This, when raiden Meets up With snake, IF you happened to pick up the Shaver,..snake will have used it : ), and he will look Like he did in teh GC Version of MGS1: the Twin snakes, just slightley older, kinda coo actually
The poster of his vid is overreacting about the plot of MGS2. First of all, Solidus did recognize Raiden on the bridge. He clearly says "Where do I know him from...?" .
Also, there is a reason why Raiden's memory has been altered. If you actually followed the plot of this game, you'd know about the S3 plan and what it stands for.
The plot may not the completely believable, but it sure makes a lot of sense after you figure it out.
"And whatever shadowy organization (the Patriots?) decided to take their highly skilled child warrior, erase all his real life skills through expensive mental implants, retrain him via VR, then send him into battle! SURE, THAT'S REAL BELIEVABLE. Seriously MGS2 wtf."
When Raiden said he only had VR Training, he was lieing.
dawg, its all a part of the Patriots plan,. To rais teh ultimate Soldier, since "all the clones of big boss" was "missing" Solidus was Gone, Solid snake was Gone,. Liquid was gone, And Big boss himself was restrained in a coma to one of teh AI's
funny how u can think of names w/ jack in it like: jack the ripper black jack jack simpson jack griffin jack clinton jack bush tha jack that went up the hill and had sex w/ jill jack clooney jack pit jackifer aniston JACKam sandlers jack myers jack gates
But what is funny is at the end of MGS1 Solidus Snake was named the President of the United States and he's a terrorist here but Solidus is a third one of the Snake brothers
ok dude firts of all...solidus clearly said on the bridge..."where do i know him from?"
and solidus clearly stated why raiden couldnt remember..."high concentration of cerebral implants" that means the patriots have put im plants in his brain to alter his memory.
and raiden was born in the late 70's...he was a child in the 80's...
so let me get thi straight, i know that raiden (aka Jack, aka Null (Perfect Soldier)) is from portable ops, but is big boss in sons of liberty the original solid snake (from snake eater) and if it is how come his eye patch is on the other side
in a way, its a deep emotional trauma for him. if you hear rose and raiden talk, rose sais he has constant nightmares, cant sleep confortably with anyone etc. i guess this conversation was a reminder
Solidus fucked his eye up on purpose, I swear. He wants to be Big Boss so bad. I mean, think about it. He just HAPPENED to have an eyepatch laying around after the harrier battle? wtf?
And about Solidus not looking like Sean Connery, I'm assuming that that's just Big Boss' METAL GEAR appearance. See, on the title screen of MG2, Snake looks like Mel Gibson. Does he look like Gibson now?
Raiden isn't around Snake's age. The Liberian Civil War started in December of 1989, and Raiden says he was 6 when he held his first AK. He's anywhere between 23 and 26.
That late? Dang, when I hear '80s I assume 80-87 or so. I didn't think it'd be at the tail-end like that. I guess that does make it a bit more understandable.
Raiden is alright. I like Solid Snake and Big Boss better though. Still, I'm pretty sure that they weren't erasing his memory just to retrain him as an ultimate soldier. Sure, that may have been one purpose, but the main goal was to test the new Metal Gear A.I., so that way the Patriots could control the flow of information in the U.S. So it's not about that. It's a huge ass twisted conspiracy.
I just wanted to point out that when they say he looks like Big Boss they could mean young Big Boss (MGS3's Naked Snake) who resembles Kurt Russel's character Snake Pliskin from those crappy old films Escape From NY and Escape From LA whom Solid Snake resembles (His allias Pliskin is a reference to this) rather than old Big Boss who looks like Sean Connery. Of course it is also possible that they dont look alike but are meant to look alike, just like Liquid Snake and Solid Snake.
Did Ocelot know that Olga walked in!? :O And Yes Raiden Is awesome! Even tho Kojima Made Raikov (MGS 3 Raiden) A Gayo! Heh Awesome Games tho!! Love 'em to bits!
Yeah, i've just played this Game (Rida00 was my old account btw) and Raiden is actually a great character heheh his voice is wookid, he'll be THE character in MGS 4 tho I think! Hope he doesn't die tho.. Like Gray Fox did :( Old Snake... Well we need more info on him. We need English Voiced Trailers! & Actual Gameplay Scenes! :)
He might be badass in MGS4, but he's the bitchiest bitch in THIS game. Back when I first played it, I was pissed that I had to play as him. But now he just makes me laugh. Though I think I'd take him more seriously if he had a better voice actor. The guy who voiced Raikov would be good.
Raiden and Rose should get their own reality show. Maybe I just gave MTV a bad idea.
SpartanForgeWorld300 2 months ago
@slovan youre not the only one...thank god i'll get to play this game again when the HD collection arrives,my PS2 version is starting to break...its amazing how i can still play it though it does freeze sometimes
NEMESIS1191 3 months ago
I cannot believe ten years has passed since this game was released.
slovan 6 months ago 5
Medal Gear Rising IS GONNA BE SO AMAZING
9cloudersprofile 9 months ago
was he going to be horny or else....?
taking punch from beauty tough woman when he is naked...
lol...
C0olD3x 9 months ago
@DaGoldPicasso that guys are gays
beatdathaguy98 11 months ago
I still think it should've been Jack the Stripper.
CannedBacon 1 year ago
@CannedBacon *Ow OWWWW!!*
dogzluvr13 7 months ago
What was that guy doing to Raiden? With the machines?
silentxXxstride666 1 year ago
Confusing game.
bleedingfukurou 1 year ago
I'm not sure how old Solidus is meant to be but I'm pretty certain that Raiden is meant to be younger than Snake - probably early- to mid-twenties? After all, wasn't that the point - that Snake was the older, more experienced one and Raiden was younger and therefore less experienced?
Mooncinder 1 year ago
who is big boss?
satsugekibukouken 1 year ago
when olga said that her "child" (sunny) was kidnapped by the patriots
doesn't mean that after mgs2 it's mgs rising right....
bigman3004 1 year ago
I just like the fact that poor Raiden is standing there butt naked around two men lol! Raiden is awesome, hes my fav. char out of the mgs series
GoddessofMurder 1 year ago
This was the only part of the gaame I couldnt do! I got here on extreme but couldnt press the button hard enough. I just gave up :(
slickrick301988 1 year ago
wow
MEGAMAN7659 1 year ago
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i hate playing as raiden he such a pussy
cjcool91 2 years ago
Aaaaaaaaarghaaaaaaa!! XD
edssdd 2 years ago
its been a while hasnt it
E36BmwTurbo 2 years ago
The patriots erased Raiden's memory for this training,it seems ridiculous but that's the explanation given by the game.
But MGS 3 doesn't say anything about Solidus' birth, it only gives the date of the begining of "Les enfants terribles". We don't know much more about Solidus, is he born during the project? We don't know.
PepetteP69 2 years ago
solidus was born separate from snake and liquid he may have been born in the 60's after operation snake eater
or something like that
MEGAMAN7659 1 year ago
Solidus is Raiden father that would Solid Snake and Liquid his uncles and Big Boss is grandfather. I would what family reunion is like when those 4 men meet each other.
DamuEmran 2 years ago
You've got it wonrg, Solidus is not Raiden's Biological father. Solidus killed Raiden's parents and than became his Godfather because he named him Jack.
Popwer 2 years ago
i know that but he would still call them uncle or step-uncle and that his godfather or step father.
DamuEmran 2 years ago
raiden xD he sounds just like axel and reno! Got it memorized!
SabakuNoIzy 2 years ago
no when he says a foul wind is blowing he means he just farted and doesnt want to be blamed so he leaves
danscomprider 2 years ago
that was akward when i first saw raiden naked. ITs surprising it didn't say nudity on the case
dadkwashere 2 years ago
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i looked at the back of substance case and it said it
actionfigureflix 2 years ago
"a foul wind is blowing, we shall speak again" is ocelots way of saying i need to take a dump.
Acuraintegraman1 2 years ago 3
I looked at the substance case and it said it
actionfigureflix 2 years ago
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ChaosXUnleashed 2 years ago
Raiden is really a awesome character i don't care about what people says
Apedemak8 2 years ago 15
Well said, dude!
FlyingAlchemist 2 years ago
thanks^^
Apedemak8 2 years ago
No trouble!
FlyingAlchemist 2 years ago
you're right, solidus is raidens adopted father and snake is his uncle. he's got a pretty big family tree with the snakes. that's why solidus called him a monster.
shazamkid 2 years ago 3
His yelling at 1:12 made me cry. It must have been horrible. But, at the same time I thought of the song 'Let Me Blow Ya Mind' :-I
KarleeTheWizard 2 years ago
if raiden's adoptive father is solidus, that means his adoptive uncle is solid snake. but raiden only knows solidus. he doesnt know snake as a uncle
iskoconquers 3 years ago 3
"A foul wind is blowing, we shall speak again" PRICELESS.
Arcane1Soldier 3 years ago 11
i forgot what a solid voice solidus had
RoboTurkeyNinja 3 years ago 4
John Cygan ftw.
darthbandon10 3 years ago 5
The exact year is 2009. Change your video description.
alster724 3 years ago
"if"
PuppyMonkey 2 years ago
Tanunt 21
Hahhahahha
stinkyroseboy 3 years ago
hmm I´d like to torture raidenXDD
TRaxRose 3 years ago
1:15 raiden sounded like Goku lol
sbwrestlefan92 3 years ago
ROFL 1:15 raiden gets raped xD
partycakeboy92 3 years ago
"I knew that they would recrute you".
Wait, does Solidus mean FOXHOUND OR The Patriots?
nairobi26 3 years ago
''Solidus didn't seem to recognize him on the bridge but he sure does now!''
You obviously weren't paying attention to the dialogue then, when Solidus first encounters Raiden he looks at him in silence and says to himself ''where do I know him from?'' so yes he did recognise Raiden but didn't have a full confirmation on who he was at that point in the game.
Zepp900 3 years ago
Wait, at 1:35, is that a barcode on Raiden's chest? It's also continually visible troughout the rest of the clip. But he got his artificial body after MGS2, right? So what's the barcode doing on Raiden's body?
Overblade9 3 years ago
It's a tattoo.
deprofundis442 3 years ago
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wtf? who's Raiden?
englishboy42 3 years ago
ocelot puts it right
the21stsergeant 3 years ago
why is raiden neked
lawlietXcake132 3 years ago
wait... isn't ocelot russian? then why does he not have a russian accent when olga does?
doogwooop 3 years ago
Ocelet is half-russian, half-american. But he doesn't care about either country.
belfastlawd91 3 years ago
If U Notice Olga Is Wearing the Tiger Stripe Camo From MGS3
Kaifanjr 3 years ago 3
After This, when raiden Meets up With snake, IF you happened to pick up the Shaver,..snake will have used it : ), and he will look Like he did in teh GC Version of MGS1: the Twin snakes, just slightley older, kinda coo actually
Stonecold8911 3 years ago
Heh, that's what happens when your the son of The Sorrow. Poor Ocelot. . . . .not. lol
sarget566 3 years ago
Raiden doesn't have a dick...pause at 4:07 to see
2dmg3 3 years ago
it's Covered by Ocelot's Head
ObeliskWhite6307 3 years ago
when does ocelot get turned into liquid completely?
pantyfan302 3 years ago
he doesent play mgs 4 if ya can ull know
edxedxedxedx 3 years ago
he dosent
ff9zidane199 3 years ago
The person that posted this video fails at knowing Metal Gear info.
ThoraxeRMGSAMA 3 years ago 2
The poster of his vid is overreacting about the plot of MGS2. First of all, Solidus did recognize Raiden on the bridge. He clearly says "Where do I know him from...?" .
Also, there is a reason why Raiden's memory has been altered. If you actually followed the plot of this game, you'd know about the S3 plan and what it stands for.
The plot may not the completely believable, but it sure makes a lot of sense after you figure it out.
CountAbel 3 years ago 3
zarlasheenaza, u suck
glitchman0505 3 years ago
"And whatever shadowy organization (the Patriots?) decided to take their highly skilled child warrior, erase all his real life skills through expensive mental implants, retrain him via VR, then send him into battle! SURE, THAT'S REAL BELIEVABLE. Seriously MGS2 wtf."
When Raiden said he only had VR Training, he was lieing.
WCarnation 3 years ago
He wasn't lying, he simply didn't remember everything about his past life. His memory was manipulated, wasn't it?
filipeflower 3 years ago
dawg, its all a part of the Patriots plan,. To rais teh ultimate Soldier, since "all the clones of big boss" was "missing" Solidus was Gone, Solid snake was Gone,. Liquid was gone, And Big boss himself was restrained in a coma to one of teh AI's
Stonecold8911 3 years ago
null is grey fox
swarznegger 3 years ago
gore45 3 years ago
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Jack Man...Jack likes to jack off...
pancadaver 3 years ago
But what is funny is at the end of MGS1 Solidus Snake was named the President of the United States and he's a terrorist here but Solidus is a third one of the Snake brothers
Kaibaman21 4 years ago
*Too the guy who posted this*
ok dude firts of all...solidus clearly said on the bridge..."where do i know him from?"
and solidus clearly stated why raiden couldnt remember..."high concentration of cerebral implants" that means the patriots have put im plants in his brain to alter his memory.
and raiden was born in the late 70's...he was a child in the 80's...
make sense yeah?
pay attention next time k?
Audi0Villain 4 years ago 4
did he get it shot off from raiden when he was in the harrier hince the eyepatch
Kingk00pa281 4 years ago
thanks, was just a ll confused, i like the mgs series but i sometimes get confused, too many snakes lmfao
gowdyman 4 years ago 2
Gray Fox was killed under Metal Gear REX's foot, remember?
filipeflower 4 years ago
so let me get thi straight, i know that raiden (aka Jack, aka Null (Perfect Soldier)) is from portable ops, but is big boss in sons of liberty the original solid snake (from snake eater) and if it is how come his eye patch is on the other side
gowdyman 4 years ago
Ever MGS game has some sort of torture thing in it, I want to know what MGS4's torture scene will be.
Frostedpunk55 4 years ago
that looks exacly like the torture room in metal gear solid 1
BlackOps2014 4 years ago
yea i guess they intended it to be like that. ocelot- "inside arsenal of course, were also inside the memory of shadow moses."
xXTHEONEXx91 4 years ago
thats true
BlackOps2014 4 years ago
Damn, I love Solidus' voice actor. Plays Canderous too in KOTOR.
ThecanadianColin 4 years ago 4
whoa..wait a minuite..did Raiden know the whole time that he was a child solider or did he just lie about it??
deathod 4 years ago
in a way, its a deep emotional trauma for him. if you hear rose and raiden talk, rose sais he has constant nightmares, cant sleep confortably with anyone etc. i guess this conversation was a reminder
xXTHEONEXx91 4 years ago
if that is big boss with the eye patch then they messed up because in mgs3 snake is shot in the right eye not the left
clarketuber 4 years ago
it's not big boss. it's solidus
M4d3m4n 4 years ago
oh ok thanks.
clarketuber 4 years ago
Actually, the patch is on the left eye.
AllSystemsGo314 4 years ago
Ya I know it is on the left eye but Snake is The big boss and in MGS3 Snake is shot in his right eye.
clarketuber 4 years ago
Solidus fucked his eye up on purpose, I swear. He wants to be Big Boss so bad. I mean, think about it. He just HAPPENED to have an eyepatch laying around after the harrier battle? wtf?
yuyuzja 4 years ago
lol dude i agree with you yuyuzja
BlackOps2014 4 years ago
and big boss just HAPPENED to have an eyepatch on the off chance he got capped in the eye?
adw117 4 years ago
haha yea i guess man idunno
BlackOps2014 4 years ago
wait I heard somwhere that solidus was made the same age as big boss? I dont know if thats true but that what I was told
redsN64 4 years ago
That's not true.
ZarlaSheenaza 4 years ago
oh ok I just didnt know
redsN64 4 years ago
Man, I love Solidus Snake's voice. It is Canderous Ordo from Star Wars KOTOR hahahaha. Nice video!
AndresDrakulAlcaide 4 years ago
1:12 what the hell kind of scream was that? I won't sleep tonight.
horay4shrooms 4 years ago
mgs 2 was my favorite...
itstastybacon 4 years ago
imagine the embarrassment of being tied up naked in front of 2 old men. and hope they don't do something nasty.
rockinmommy 4 years ago 2
they didn't erase his skills, they manipulated his memories to make him believe he obtained his skills through VR training!
NexAngelus405 4 years ago
Screw internet slangs!
heardofrvb 4 years ago
Go to hell, you.
Smithkakarot 4 years ago
Raiden doesn't have a penis(Like we didn't know that already).
Pause at 4:07.
AoNinjaz 4 years ago
and your're the sort of person to notice that sort of thing
asdadogs 4 years ago 3
snake is 37 in this game... So is solidus
Yessur147 5 years ago
see, how come solidus looks like he's 60 then? I swear snake has had plastic surgery! He always looks the same
delonariel 4 years ago
No snake and solidus is 42 in this game
Simpan86 4 years ago
were u plying this
SylhetSweety16 5 years ago
One more thing: I think Solidus suddenly remembered Raiden because, well, he had a couple of hours to think back upon it.
Smithkakarot 5 years ago
And about Solidus not looking like Sean Connery, I'm assuming that that's just Big Boss' METAL GEAR appearance. See, on the title screen of MG2, Snake looks like Mel Gibson. Does he look like Gibson now?
Smithkakarot 5 years ago
I know, I was just being silly.
ZarlaSheenaza 5 years ago
If you compare him with the picture of Big Boss we see in MGS1, beside the fact that he's clean-shaven, he IS the spitting image of Big Boss.
POLE7645 4 years ago
and who was big boss? naked snake
Lew716 4 years ago
Yeah. That was Naked Snake. But look on the briefing in MGS1 and they show a picture of how he looked shortly before his death.
POLE7645 4 years ago
Raiden isn't around Snake's age. The Liberian Civil War started in December of 1989, and Raiden says he was 6 when he held his first AK. He's anywhere between 23 and 26.
Smithkakarot 5 years ago
That late? Dang, when I hear '80s I assume 80-87 or so. I didn't think it'd be at the tail-end like that. I guess that does make it a bit more understandable.
ZarlaSheenaza 5 years ago
Raiden is alright. I like Solid Snake and Big Boss better though. Still, I'm pretty sure that they weren't erasing his memory just to retrain him as an ultimate soldier. Sure, that may have been one purpose, but the main goal was to test the new Metal Gear A.I., so that way the Patriots could control the flow of information in the U.S. So it's not about that. It's a huge ass twisted conspiracy.
Jarbizu800 5 years ago
metal gear the best game ever
Shire69Dogg 5 years ago
I remeber watching my brother do this part! I wasn't supposed to though, lol.
Jaklover06 5 years ago
Raiden is ish just hair and voice throw him off but he's pretty cool i just prefer Snake FTW
DSFsonic 5 years ago
I just wanted to point out that when they say he looks like Big Boss they could mean young Big Boss (MGS3's Naked Snake) who resembles Kurt Russel's character Snake Pliskin from those crappy old films Escape From NY and Escape From LA whom Solid Snake resembles (His allias Pliskin is a reference to this) rather than old Big Boss who looks like Sean Connery. Of course it is also possible that they dont look alike but are meant to look alike, just like Liquid Snake and Solid Snake.
NotAnAverageAnimeFan 5 years ago
Did Ocelot know that Olga walked in!? :O And Yes Raiden Is awesome! Even tho Kojima Made Raikov (MGS 3 Raiden) A Gayo! Heh Awesome Games tho!! Love 'em to bits!
-Hellrider- (Craig)
Rida00 5 years ago
I loved this game. Radien is bad ass. I don't care what you say.
PhrexianZero 5 years ago
Yeah, i've just played this Game (Rida00 was my old account btw) and Raiden is actually a great character heheh his voice is wookid, he'll be THE character in MGS 4 tho I think! Hope he doesn't die tho.. Like Gray Fox did :( Old Snake... Well we need more info on him. We need English Voiced Trailers! & Actual Gameplay Scenes! :)
NakedSnake1989 5 years ago
He might be badass in MGS4, but he's the bitchiest bitch in THIS game. Back when I first played it, I was pissed that I had to play as him. But now he just makes me laugh. Though I think I'd take him more seriously if he had a better voice actor. The guy who voiced Raikov would be good.
yuyuzja 5 years ago
...Oh, wow, I like his scream when Raiden's oxygen is being sucked out of him.
Saihei 5 years ago
...That kinda sounds dirty man :P Ha! *Joke* :P
NakedSnake1989 5 years ago
XDDD
Oh god, that totally made my day.
Saihei 5 years ago