The problem isn't tourneys or tourney players. The problem is Smash being as shitty franchise and Smash fans, whether tourney players or not, refusing to acknowledge the problem.
It would be a lot more accurate if "Fox only" were removed. There are a lot of top tier characters in the game besides Fox (I use Marth, Falco and Jigglypuff).
And while I prefer Final Destination, I do understand that in tournaments (which I've never been to) only a few maps such as Hyrule Castle are banned (due to the games taking way too long).
"Tourneytards" don't even play brawl. Cause it's not as fun. Like honestly, the game is fine as a party game, but the engine's too floaty and it's not as good as Melee. Also, you really don't see people pick only final destination, especially when you're allowed to pick a stage as a counterpick. Pokemon Stadium is good for fox because he can upsmash some characters off the low ceiling super fast.
lol no this no that no everything but got final destination then ppl that sell thing can just say that no this no that no everything but got final destination
But I assure you tourneys are not Fox only.. Not by a long shot... In fact other Fox players are mildly rare compared to the number of Falco / Marth players in the Metagame..
I'm going to say something that will hopefully settle all this shit about tourny fags VS ... you guys. Melee and 64 are for us competitors. You guys can have brawl, cause it's not any good on a tournament level. So we get melee, you guys get Brawl, K? Is that fair enough? And BTW, there are multiple neutral and counterpick stages, not just FD. And C.Falcon is used waaaay more than fox in a tournament level. Get ur facts strait before you guys rant, aight? Just for future reference ;)
I'm going to say something that will hopefully settle all this shit about tourny fags VS ... you guys. Melee and 64 are for us competitors. You guys can have brawl, cause it's not any good on a tournament level. So we get melee, you guys get Brawl, K? Is that fair enough? And BTW, there are multiple neutral and counterpick stages, not just FD. Get ur facts strait before you guys rant, aight? Just for future reference ;)
@nZocob FIrst off i'm gonna say Fuck Brawl. I don't want that shit either. Second, I like how you didn't say shit about Fox. I'm with the no items thing but I still play on something other then Final Destination like Temple, Pokemon Stadium, and Green Greens. But one fuckin character all the fuckin time? Don't want that shit....
This video sums up with how i feel about 99% of the tourneytards out there. They might as well hack the game and disable every feature in the game, remove items completely and just make fox the only character available and final destination the only selectable stage.
If i wanted to play a game that didn't have items and was on a final destination like stage, i'd play a street fighter game.
@HiJackMan18 The video and the joke itself was created by players who dislike the competitive scene, which sought to create a more fair environment based more upon the skill of the players, rather than the random events that are the items. For the most part, the "tourney tards" aren't forcing you to play in a restrictive way; they simply implement it in tournaments. And I've never actually met or known anyone who forced people to play this way. No one can stop you from playing the way you want.
@GuardianOfTheKey It's not that they're forcing anyone to play their way. It's that they have huge pompous rods up their asses about playing a game so differently than the way that it was clearly made to be played that they're easy to make fun of. They play SSB like it's Guilty Gear and even admit that the game isn't fit for competition without their stupid rules. They should just play a fighter designed for competitive play. They also mock everyone who doesn't play their way. They deserve it.
@eatenbyrobots who is "they"? are you talking about players at a tournament that you attended? Players that are arguably the most respected voices in the Melee community? or are you talking about some low-level scrubs that have biased views about the competitive scene?
there are differences between the Smash series and a traditional fighter, some differences being more appealing to Smash players. There is no game designed to have the qualities of both Smash and a purposely competitive game.
@GuardianOfTheKey also, why does every player that plays a game have to play it the way it was "intended" to be played? one thing I like about video games is that there isn't always one way to play, the players and the community often end up reinventing how to play video games.
and which rules strike you as truly being "stupid"? for the first couple years of Melee, most rules had items and a very wide range of stages. The rules have adapted to the changes in the Melee competitive scene.
Using the resources given to you is adapting. Items change the battlefield, giving new opportunities to gain an advantage. Removing items does not show off "true skill". It shows off one's ability to utilize one aspect of the game. A truly skilled player should be able to maintain an advantageous position in any circumstances. If a Starman throws off your game, you really shouldn't be playing. I had no issue when the original came out when I was *10* (hint: fucking dodge the one who gets it).
Just like you shouldn't be playing if you rely on a starman to win.
Explain to me how you can adapt to a random exploding box/ random starman appearing for the other player. You DON'T. How can you adapt to something that is random? It make matches unfair. Using items doesn't show true skill at all. You can't determine who is the truly better player because items are random. Without items, it's just you and the opponent. making the match as fair as possible.
@StriCNYN3 One would think that, what with items being random and all, a mach wherein they're allowed would still come down to the skill of the individual player. It's not like items inherently favor one player over the other. You have just as much of an opportunity to take them and use them as your opponent does, and if you can't, then you need to be able to adapt your play-style to compensate. Taking out items because you're unable to do that reflects worse on you than it does the game, dude.
@Cyberxion But when you have items like a starman which gives you invincibility, it completely changes the flow of the match, and the loosing player can quickly take a stock. And if it were a close match between two players, then the loosing player with the star would win only by the star, and only because he was lucky.
It's best to turn all that off if you're playing competitively. If not then hell yea, put all the items on =). But to see who's the better player, turn them off. that's all =)
@NihilistDandy 3. Items make the fighting oversimplified and edgeguarding becomes too easy. (ex. just knock them off the stage and throw a bomb, bat, bumper or anything when their jumping back, if they airdodge they'll fall, if they take the hit they'll fall). Real skill is when you win only by your own doing, not the game giving you lucky chances.
"If a Starman throws off your game, you really shouldn't be playing"
If you can't win a match without one, you really shouldn't be playing
wouldn't being best at the game mean you just dominate all aspects of it? Wouldn't being the best mean that no matter what items or settings there were, you could adapt and overcome?
''FireFox only'' got you a like!
OrkTv 3 days ago
It was funny at first, but it got silly after the first scene. The one where they are fighting at war was pretty cool, though.
soul1112 4 days ago
No killing other cars
Snaking only
Slim line slits.
Shaby15v 1 week ago
770 people are foxes.
Grahav 2 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I agree; competitive players don't deserve Brawl. They deserve Melee.
darkelf456 3 weeks ago
No Free speech
No Rights
No Fair Use
No Jobs.
ACTA Only
FINAL DESTINATION.
BurningAegis 1 month ago 5
@BurningAegis
NO SOPA
NO PIPA
NO ACTA
INTERNET ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION COMICS.
IamNCortex 3 weeks ago 3
Noch character development, no plot, violence only, FINAL DESTINATION!
:,D so f**ing true
BurnSchulz 1 month ago
No X-Ray moves, No Fatalities, Liu Kang only, Final Destination.
megamormonman3212 1 month ago
You guys are commenting all WRONG
No criticism, no compliments, no quotes, no "first," no jokes...
Final Destination.
(jk lol)
jaythephoenix 1 month ago 2
No wands, Fawkes only, Chamber of SecreFINAL DESTINATION
lukebn 1 month ago
I want to see the tourneyfags' reaction if they remove Fox and Final Destination and Force items into the game in the next SSB.
fierothehedgehog 1 month ago
Even though this is an oldie that hasn't aged well, that Final Destination Movie joke gets me every time.
Davtwan 1 month ago
NO DESTRUCTIBLE ENVIROMENTS
NO PLANES
NO TANKS
NO CARS
NOOB TUBES ONLY
...Modern Warfare 3.
MrSolomonGoldsmith 1 month ago 2
Luckily we have better game(s), like Melee. :3
Rubyiris 2 months ago
foxes + final destination = renard
MegaManlego 2 months ago in playlist Favoritos 2
I see how it is.
NO items.
NO tripping
Link ONLY
Battlefield.
Zakary42 2 months ago
No people no books no videos no war no peace final destination
adriangustavo02 2 months ago
This video is made even more funny when you come to the realization that Brawl is complete shit.
Yosefhouser 2 months ago
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Mobius14 2 months ago
haha hilarious nice job swordsman3003, super732sayin, you got owned
ajsheehan4410 2 months ago
Oh god I lol'd at the movie one
frigidkitsune 2 months ago
My God do I love this video.
swordsman3003, I want to have your babies.
UltramanCronos 2 months ago
Thank you very much to transcribe the video. I'm Spanish and I understand English, but Y understand much better if I read. Seriously, thanks.
MrAwenjavi 2 months ago
creepypastas
no sense
horror only
final destination
caledograndao 2 months ago
CALL OF DUTY MW3
NO PERKS
NO GRENADES
NO KNIFING
NO SKILL
M9 ONLY
Final Destination
TeleportSandwich 3 months ago 3
I'm a filly and what is this
Azardea 3 months ago
HALO; REACH
NO ABILITIES
NO SHIELDS
NO VEHICLES
NO FUN
DMR ONLY
Final Destination
BansheeHallow 3 months ago
Tournies go pretty much like this, no fun at all
BansheeHallow 3 months ago
no! everything
mindless1433 3 months ago
Marvel vs. Capcom:
NO MAGNETO
NO STORM
NO MANGO SENTINAL
SERVBOT ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION
prosepokemon 3 months ago
WAIT A SECOND
TheBriarCP 4 months ago
why do I keep coming back to watch this video?!
xXTurkinatorXx 4 months ago in playlist xXTurkinatorXx's favorites
No soap..
Radio..
Final Destination.
Datiz0 4 months ago
Some parts were pretty funny, but over all that was pretty retareded
super732sayian 4 months ago 25
@super732sayian: "Some parts were pretty funny, but over all that was pretty retareded"
This is the best comment I have ever heard and perfectly describes my own feelings towards this video.
swordsman3003 4 months ago 42
what is this it makes no sence
cajb687 4 months ago
Melee tournyfag reporting. No items, Final Destination, ...but I brought Falco.
lengeta 4 months ago
tf2.
NO MELEE
NO NEEDLEGUNS
MEDIC ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION
OoOImWithCrazyOoO 4 months ago
@OoOImWithCrazyOoO Team Healing 2?
GreenGearMood 4 months ago
@GreenGearMood Lmao basicaly
OoOImWithCrazyOoO 4 months ago
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, MLG.
IMadLarkin 4 months ago
Oh God -.-
Matirod 4 months ago
DC Universe Online
NO BARRELS
NO TURRETS
ICE TANKS ONLY
FINAL DEST-BATCAVE
HDKalculator 4 months ago
League of Legends:
NO ITEMS
NO JUNGLE
MID ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION!
CreatingMagic 4 months ago
Team Fortress 2
HEAVY ONLY
NO MINIGUN
NO PUNCHING
SANDVICH ONLY
FINAL DESTINA...I mean, 2Fort
BroadwayRonMexico 5 months ago 4
World of Warcraft
NO ARMOR
NO WEAPONS
WARRIORS ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION
BroadwayRonMexico 5 months ago
The problem isn't tourneys or tourney players. The problem is Smash being as shitty franchise and Smash fans, whether tourney players or not, refusing to acknowledge the problem.
Axelhander 5 months ago
Starcraft
NO AIR UNITS
NO UPGRADES
TERRAN ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION
BroadwayRonMexico 5 months ago 4
firefox only !!! LOL
vannallezzennogwat 5 months ago
1:49-2:02 LMAO
flamebunny700 5 months ago
wut. am. i. watching.
Jason2743 5 months ago
nerds are the cancer in any multiplayer game
BassLiberators 5 months ago 2
>implying tourney players are enforcing anything >.>
jujitsutide 5 months ago
i imagine the format would be "no x, y only, final destination"
Lupercaleb 5 months ago
Tourney tards are the nintendo equivalents of MLG try hards on Call of Duty
01creativenamehere10 5 months ago
Guilty Gear is awesome!!!
WHATS THIS?
NO INSTANT KILLS
TESTAMENT ONLY!
PARIS!! eh i mean FINAL DESTINATION
KONPALegendz 5 months ago
Tekken 6 is friggin' sweet!
WHAT'S THIS?
NO ITEM MOVES!
NO CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS!
NO UNBLOCKABLE ATTACKS!
KAZUYA MISHIMA ONLY!
AZEZEL'S CHAMBER!
VIOLATER9000 5 months ago 3
I'm gonna take a dump.
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!!!
NO ANUS!!!!!
NO BUTT!!!!!
NO TOILET!!!!!
DIARRHEA EVERYWHERE ONLY!!!!
FINAL DESTINATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!
ImSpidey2 5 months ago
@ImSpidey2 O_o
HardcoreHaris 5 months ago
@HardcoreHaris I'm freaky. Aren't I?
ImSpidey2 5 months ago
Its frickin funny, but i just couldnt press the like button ._. theres tons of games that are imbalanced out there, Brawl is just one of it
Funny vid tho
JoeKageri 5 months ago
@JoeKageri wtf that doesnt even make any sense
WalkthroughsMadeEasy 5 months ago
HAHAHAHA! this was hilarious
Diablo edition needs to be put in ;)
ZawadaP 6 months ago
Writing a comment on Youtube.
What's this?
No keyboard
Vowels only
Final Destination
Mithoskun 6 months ago
@Mithoskun please stop copying other users' comments, its not funny. fuck off.
3AndAQuarterMen 6 months ago
@3AndAQuarterMen You actually expect me to trawl through pages of comments to see if it's been posted before?
Mithoskun 6 months ago
Idk, yeah they dont cause brawl is worse than melee :P
mankoriginal 6 months ago
1:15 - 1:25 Lol
TutorialGirl185 6 months ago
the "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG" scene is my phones ringtone XD
AcTivESkaTeR14 6 months ago
It would be a lot more accurate if "Fox only" were removed. There are a lot of top tier characters in the game besides Fox (I use Marth, Falco and Jigglypuff).
And while I prefer Final Destination, I do understand that in tournaments (which I've never been to) only a few maps such as Hyrule Castle are banned (due to the games taking way too long).
Also, Brawl sucks.
tanteishoryu 6 months ago
I don't get it
Lufttygger306 6 months ago
brawl sucks every character is so slow
kevinmccann5 6 months ago 2
Brawl wasn't just a fuck you to tourneytards, though, it hurt everyone else too.
Um, they cut Mewtwo, in case you forgot.
THEY CUT
MEWTWO
It's ok though, I've replaced that made up fakemon character with a Mewtwo psa and it works fine.
egdeltur666 6 months ago
Final Destination 5 - 10 years TRAILER, MUST check!! /watch?v=a8EwXLnrW14
tuscan3101 6 months ago
No trolls,
No retarded comments,
No rage war comments,
WATCH THE F*CKING VIDEO. (oh, and final destination)
Seiga 6 months ago
Google chrome only**
Final destination...
ashrakin 6 months ago
youre doing it WRONG D=<!!!
WHATS THIS?!?!?!
NO VIDEOS!!!
NO GAMES!!!
ONLY ACCIDENTS!!!
FINAL DESTINATION MOVIE!!!!!
ickkck8bcs 6 months ago
i play competitive smash and this is hilarious! idk if you guys could consider me a "tourneyfag" because i play for fun when i want to
PocketAces1796 6 months ago
"Tourneytards" don't even play brawl. Cause it's not as fun. Like honestly, the game is fine as a party game, but the engine's too floaty and it's not as good as Melee. Also, you really don't see people pick only final destination, especially when you're allowed to pick a stage as a counterpick. Pokemon Stadium is good for fox because he can upsmash some characters off the low ceiling super fast.
(The more you know)
Kelohmello 6 months ago
@Kelohmello thank you, tourneytard
SwizzleMix 6 months ago
@SwizzleMix Never been to a tourney in my life. I'm fuckin awesome.
Kelohmello 6 months ago
YOURE DOING IT WRONG!!
TheRedEGreen 7 months ago
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TheRedEGreen 7 months ago
What's this poop: no food no disposal no butts final Destanation
Theninjagunboy 7 months ago
i get the final destination; but what's with choosing FOX?
BoomMediaProductions 7 months ago
@BoomMediaProductions Fox was traditionally considered the best character for standard Tournament play in Super Smash Bros Melee.
erectinGear 7 months ago
Let's play mw2 wait no secondaries, no grenades, no knifing, dropshotting only final destination
UNIT3Dxkillz 7 months ago
what's this?
no rope
no candlejack
fina
ps3hater221 7 months ago
This video:
NO COLOUR
NO ACTUAL PEOPLE
STICKMEN ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION
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hilarioustwaddlRI 7 months ago
FAIL!
falling0gravity 7 months ago
time for a comment.
WHATS THIS?!?!
NO FUNNY CONTENT
NO THUMBS UP
FOX ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION
MegaBlindfire 7 months ago 3
I lol'd every time they said final destination XD
Thingie5 8 months ago
thumbs up for final foxanation
EpicAwesomeMarioMan4 8 months ago
LOL 1:33
No Final Destination
Final Destination
fuzzieproductions 8 months ago 2
No final destination..final destination!
WarpxD 8 months ago
What happened to 2:32?
bamsb90 8 months ago
@bamsb90 It looks like we've hit some kind of wormhole! We're moving through time!
homestarsgurl 8 months ago
Lets play xbox
No controllers
No poop
No men
ninjagunboy 8 months ago
Ahja that was awesome me miko
ninjagunboy 8 months ago
lol no this no that no everything but got final destination then ppl that sell thing can just say that no this no that no everything but got final destination
MyDarkstriker 8 months ago
this is hilarious.
inb4thumbsupkids 8 months ago
I think I'll start up a new Werewolf the Apocalypse campaign.
But wait!
No dice!
No rulebooks!
Kitsune only!
Final Destination!
TheRigster1138 8 months ago
lol smash brothers tournies, so cute
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SamsonGiles 9 months ago
No custom textures! No BRSTM's! Final Destination!
TheCorruptPlague 9 months ago
I friggin love the "Firefox only" portion XD
lazydudemanguy56 9 months ago
FOX ONLY! FINAL DESTINATION!
lilymaypup 9 months ago
I LIKES IT!!
chcoman123 9 months ago
Nothing to do with the video, fag. But funny.
benos 9 months ago
This is the worst video ever
freakingawesomeguy1 9 months ago
Guys u are sick
vanessawella 10 months ago
I still don't get it.
ZOMbyNE 10 months ago
NO NO!!! all u youtube users are doing it all wrong!!!!!!!
NO LIKES
NO FAVORITES
NO COMMENTS
Final destination
mynameispelly 10 months ago
Hey! Let's Play Final Fantasy! WHATS THIS?! No weapons No Shields No controllers Hands only! Final Destination
replayerguy12 10 months ago
Brawl it should be no items, MK only, Brinstar.
Kaffei4Lunch 10 months ago
lol 1:12 thumbs up if you know what I mean.
smellslikelithium1 10 months ago 20
Fox / Zelda player here. xD
But I assure you tourneys are not Fox only.. Not by a long shot... In fact other Fox players are mildly rare compared to the number of Falco / Marth players in the Metagame..
connordoc3 10 months ago
Wanna go watch youtube?
i know!
no signal, NO YOUTUBE, FINAL DESTINATION
rockonmyfriend 10 months ago
The following was actually on the original Final Destination poster:
"No accidents, no coincidences, no escapes.
FINAL DESTINATION"
Idude893 10 months ago
Lets play Call of duty!
(WHATS THIS!)
No guns
no skins
no controllers
FINAL DESTINATION
AceDubsteP 10 months ago
I'm a guy who likes the Melee competitive scene...but this was pretty hilarious. Final Destination ftw <3
Ariphilus 11 months ago
No dislike, no bad comments, final destination
captaintaco2345 11 months ago
Unfortunately everything listed wasn't a fighting game and therefor the terrible analogy doesn't work.
legendofsource 11 months ago
@legendofsource Super smash brothers brawl is a party game with fighting atheistic's
Leekduck 10 months ago
I see some angry tournyfags. RAWR
metaknight says hi, falco says bye
Blueforce707 11 months ago
I'm going to say something that will hopefully settle all this shit about tourny fags VS ... you guys. Melee and 64 are for us competitors. You guys can have brawl, cause it's not any good on a tournament level. So we get melee, you guys get Brawl, K? Is that fair enough? And BTW, there are multiple neutral and counterpick stages, not just FD. And C.Falcon is used waaaay more than fox in a tournament level. Get ur facts strait before you guys rant, aight? Just for future reference ;)
nZocob 11 months ago
I'm going to say something that will hopefully settle all this shit about tourny fags VS ... you guys. Melee and 64 are for us competitors. You guys can have brawl, cause it's not any good on a tournament level. So we get melee, you guys get Brawl, K? Is that fair enough? And BTW, there are multiple neutral and counterpick stages, not just FD. Get ur facts strait before you guys rant, aight? Just for future reference ;)
nZocob 11 months ago
@nZocob FIrst off i'm gonna say Fuck Brawl. I don't want that shit either. Second, I like how you didn't say shit about Fox. I'm with the no items thing but I still play on something other then Final Destination like Temple, Pokemon Stadium, and Green Greens. But one fuckin character all the fuckin time? Don't want that shit....
lAVXl 11 months ago
@lAVXl The whole 1 character thing is fake and douchy. I play Jiggs, Falco, and Marth in tournaments. I promise you that "fox only" is fake
nZocob 11 months ago
STOP! This is now way to fight a war, boys! LOL
pooptouyube 11 months ago
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1:45 whats this? sings No Zonday no moving away from the mic to breath only...........FINAL DESTINATION! lol man.
paislypanda 11 months ago
1:45 whats this? sings No Zonday no moving away from the mic to breat only..............FINAL DESTINATION! lol man
paislypanda 11 months ago
i lold at the firefox
Lemileant 11 months ago
I still don't know what's Final Destination!
ZeroOfBells 11 months ago
Person 1: Let's got to the Fast Food House!
Person 2: EFF YEAH!
*both people drive to the Fast Food House*
Person 1: We're there! Let's go grab some grub now!
Person 2: Wait! No fries, no shakes, chicken sandwiches only, Final Destination!
superfroman 11 months ago
706 are tourneyfags...
Noxcurio 1 year ago
Hey guys lets watch TV!
No volume
No cable
No channels
Static only...
FINAL DESTINATION!
Jelley0 1 year ago 5
Hey swordsman! lets go to school!
wait, whats this!?
no books
no teachers
only pencils!
FINAL DESTINATION!
Auuman 1 year ago
Hay gaiz, let's play Pokemon!
Wait, what's this!?
No Legends
Eggs Only
Final Destination!
Altimadark 1 year ago
Jajajaja That's FUNNY !!!!
TheSmashBrosFan1 1 year ago
some1 is mad
Reneblade 1 year ago 58
@Reneblade lol true.
substandardlives 10 months ago
Youtube is sooooo cool
NO VIDEOS WITHOUT ADS
NO APPEALING GRAPHICS
JUSTIN BIEBER JOKES ONLY
Final Destination!
LyrixKN 1 year ago
@LyrixKN calm down.
marcheong 1 year ago
I sadly couldn't stop laughing.
drummerboysareawesom 1 year ago
704 tourneytards didn't like this video
nobby4 1 year ago
No trolls, no drama... Final Destination.
Ebb1993isgreat 1 year ago
No Character Development
No Plot Line
Violence only
5nal Destination (In theaters this august)
TySketch 1 year ago
Youtube users, I need you to write a funny comment.
What's this?
No "dislike jokes", no "Justin Bieber jokes"
Final Destination.
TheNati4 1 year ago 199
@TheNati4 No Dislikes, Likes Only, Final Destination. That's 1 I'll agree 2! ^_^
YTPrule 11 months ago
@TheNati4 No "CSI jokes"
fawell00 7 months ago
i know a good one
"playing on my iphone WAIT YOUR DOING IT WRONG NO APPS NO PHONE CALLS TEXTING ONLY FINAL DESTINATION
quickboomerang1998 1 year ago
aaaaa? give a thum up if you think the 5th guy sounds a little gay
brenica1000 1 year ago
aaaaa? give a thum up if you think the 5th guy sounds alittle gay
brenica1000 1 year ago
Everyone shut the fuck up and watch the goddamn video stop arguing you losers.
AxeInfection 1 year ago 2
This video sums up with how i feel about 99% of the tourneytards out there. They might as well hack the game and disable every feature in the game, remove items completely and just make fox the only character available and final destination the only selectable stage.
If i wanted to play a game that didn't have items and was on a final destination like stage, i'd play a street fighter game.
HiJackMan18 1 year ago 2
@HiJackMan18 The video and the joke itself was created by players who dislike the competitive scene, which sought to create a more fair environment based more upon the skill of the players, rather than the random events that are the items. For the most part, the "tourney tards" aren't forcing you to play in a restrictive way; they simply implement it in tournaments. And I've never actually met or known anyone who forced people to play this way. No one can stop you from playing the way you want.
GuardianOfTheKey 1 year ago
@GuardianOfTheKey It's not that they're forcing anyone to play their way. It's that they have huge pompous rods up their asses about playing a game so differently than the way that it was clearly made to be played that they're easy to make fun of. They play SSB like it's Guilty Gear and even admit that the game isn't fit for competition without their stupid rules. They should just play a fighter designed for competitive play. They also mock everyone who doesn't play their way. They deserve it.
eatenbyrobots 1 year ago 4
@eatenbyrobots who is "they"? are you talking about players at a tournament that you attended? Players that are arguably the most respected voices in the Melee community? or are you talking about some low-level scrubs that have biased views about the competitive scene?
there are differences between the Smash series and a traditional fighter, some differences being more appealing to Smash players. There is no game designed to have the qualities of both Smash and a purposely competitive game.
GuardianOfTheKey 1 year ago
@GuardianOfTheKey also, why does every player that plays a game have to play it the way it was "intended" to be played? one thing I like about video games is that there isn't always one way to play, the players and the community often end up reinventing how to play video games.
and which rules strike you as truly being "stupid"? for the first couple years of Melee, most rules had items and a very wide range of stages. The rules have adapted to the changes in the Melee competitive scene.
GuardianOfTheKey 1 year ago
1:47
rip5m 1 year ago
lol
HydroAlexis 1 year ago
Using the resources given to you is adapting. Items change the battlefield, giving new opportunities to gain an advantage. Removing items does not show off "true skill". It shows off one's ability to utilize one aspect of the game. A truly skilled player should be able to maintain an advantageous position in any circumstances. If a Starman throws off your game, you really shouldn't be playing. I had no issue when the original came out when I was *10* (hint: fucking dodge the one who gets it).
NihilistDandy 1 year ago 3
Just like you shouldn't be playing if you rely on a starman to win.
Explain to me how you can adapt to a random exploding box/ random starman appearing for the other player. You DON'T. How can you adapt to something that is random? It make matches unfair. Using items doesn't show true skill at all. You can't determine who is the truly better player because items are random. Without items, it's just you and the opponent. making the match as fair as possible.
Real players don't need items.
StriCNYN3 1 year ago
@StriCNYN3 One would think that, what with items being random and all, a mach wherein they're allowed would still come down to the skill of the individual player. It's not like items inherently favor one player over the other. You have just as much of an opportunity to take them and use them as your opponent does, and if you can't, then you need to be able to adapt your play-style to compensate. Taking out items because you're unable to do that reflects worse on you than it does the game, dude.
Cyberxion 1 year ago
@Cyberxion But when you have items like a starman which gives you invincibility, it completely changes the flow of the match, and the loosing player can quickly take a stock. And if it were a close match between two players, then the loosing player with the star would win only by the star, and only because he was lucky.
It's best to turn all that off if you're playing competitively. If not then hell yea, put all the items on =). But to see who's the better player, turn them off. that's all =)
StriCNYN3 1 year ago
@NihilistDandy 3. Items make the fighting oversimplified and edgeguarding becomes too easy. (ex. just knock them off the stage and throw a bomb, bat, bumper or anything when their jumping back, if they airdodge they'll fall, if they take the hit they'll fall). Real skill is when you win only by your own doing, not the game giving you lucky chances.
"If a Starman throws off your game, you really shouldn't be playing"
If you can't win a match without one, you really shouldn't be playing
kngwa43 1 year ago
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DJHellAirious 1 year ago
@emurikaw Starcraft and Major League Gaming say hi
kngwa43 1 year ago
wouldn't being best at the game mean you just dominate all aspects of it? Wouldn't being the best mean that no matter what items or settings there were, you could adapt and overcome?
deadlygnome 1 year ago
@deadlygnome If you think RANDOMLY exploding boxes that are impossibl