The prophet Joe Smith, when caught PORKING his teen maid, "revealed", for the 1st time, that polygamy was ordered by God (Wife #1 didn't buy this BS)
Later only to become legal, LDS flip-flopped on polygamy
Romney's family though, illegally immigrated to Mexico to keep polygamy. (Mitt's dad slipped back across the RioGrande to be fist Mexican American to run for president)
FLDS follows Joseph Smith openly while LDS became more clever with politics and polygamy. It's what their prophet says
For the people who want polygamy banned because allegedly there is the possibility of one or more partners getting abused, I look forward to them taking up the struggle to ban monogamy, since abuse happens there as well. Different relationship structures are not any more abusive, it is the people in those relationships that determine whether they are abusive or not. Just like polygamy, guns don't kill or abuse people, people abuse or kill people.
@ItsYourcailonCN8 Carolyn's Jessop book Escape do you know if it's also aveilable in spanish want to start reding it right now this a hero woman she should help other girls that want to escape the ranch and are brain wash. Congratulations Carolyn for you book. Even if it's not aveilable in Spanish i'm going to try to read it in English with a dictionary on the side as my eNGLISH IS NOT TO GOOD
S IT TRUE THAT THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS HAS BEEN IN DROUGHT SINCE TRANSFERRING WARREN JEFFS TO TEXAS PRISON????HOW MANY THAT HAVE POSTED HAVE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, UNMARRIED 14 YEAR OLDS? WHAT HAVE ANY OF YOU DONE ABOUT THE BABIES UNDER 14 WHO ARE BEING USED FOR PROSTITUTION AND PORN? UTAH CODE STATES MARRIAGE..14 WITH CONSENT OF PARENT...
@chubbypekingnese- I like your post. personally though I think the issue surfaced when it was made aware of the happenings in the FLDS and the YFZ compounds. Underage and forced marriages are aganist the law. The state left the compounds alone until they were aware of the abuse. Under Jeffs power the religon became a cult. But to agree with your post I, who is not a polygamist, dont see an issue with mutiple marragie between consenting, willing adults who are free to also be themselves.
@bear010356 Very Well said i totally agree "CONSENSUAL WILLING ADULTS " not children with no decision making abilities being forced-in to this with fears of being sent away with no family contact and no way to survive. i think the group focuses waay tp much on the religous aspect and much of the problem has a lot to do with 1man trying ti rule an entire community NOT GOOD just like politics and democracy cant satisfy all neither can this!!!!!!!!
Why does the media view polygamy as bad but homosexual marriage is OK?
Shouldnt we allow both since they are both personal choices of the people involved?
Im sure not all polygamist marriages are abusive like not all homosexual marriages will be void of abuse.
If we agree to remove what our society has deemed the "moral norms" then we should allow people to do what they want. Even if you dont like what comes from it.
@chubbypekingnese i dont think its the polygamy part, its mostly the fact that underage girls are being forced into marriage. So it isnt always their choice, this is what the government is trying to prevent. Honestly i dont think they care about the multiple wives thing at all
I just don't know what to think about polygamy in the mormon community. I believe that if it were a jointly agreed situation that had nothing to do with religion that it could work for some families, but when people are born into the lifestyle and feel as though they are in danger of being 'banished' the situation forces people to live unhappy lives. There's also something particularly off-putting about the age differences and forced nature of some of the marriages.
Yes, I agree that she is brave..etc.. ok, agreed. However, let's not get carried away: I TOTALLY believe her story, yes, but come on... I'm sure that her writing a book had SOMETHING to do with receiving royalty cheques, and this appearance plugs it ALOT. Once again, I totally agree; very brave woman, and I do believe what she is saying, but I like to take everything with just a tiny grain of salt and just a tiny healthy hint of cynicism. Just my opinion.
It is slavery. Some one I know wrote a letter To Senator John McCain about it, and They wrote back we have viewed this as a religious freedom. It's wrong and NON-AMERICAN
can anyone give me any information on how to write a book? I'm from the FLDS and I have another side to the story besides the Polygamy. It's not even about the Polygamy. the FLDS are completely different than everyone thinks. I need to tell my story.
I'm glad this woman got a lot of support!!! I think this interview should be enough to justify the "attack" by the feds when they took the children from that compound!! I hope the children are saved from this!
"Escape" is an amazing book and very real and eye-opening. I think everyone should read this. It's hard to believe that even today this is still happening. A great book and Carolyn Jessop is a very brave woman.
You mean stop racism, give women the right to vote, advance in society with out being brain washed for sex.
Being the fastest growing religion in the world even after being discriminated for 9-11 when the US destroyed there own WTC which was based on the moques of MEcca just to get oil.
You mean stop racism, give women the right to vote, advance in society with out being brain washed for sex.
Being the fastest growing religion in the world even after being discriminated for 9-11 when the US destroyed there own WTC which was based on the mosque of MEcca just to get oil and was threatened that Islam is only really the truth.
You mean stop racism, give women the right to vote, advance in society with out being brain washed for sex.
Being the fastest growing religion in the world even after being discriminated for 9-11 when the US destroyed there own WTC which was based on the mosque of MEcca just to get oil and was threatened that Islam is only really the truth.
Stolen Innocence & Escape sound like very good books to read. Though the statistic's are few that leave: It is worthy of praise to see these women get out of this twisted corruption of their society/cult that they've been involved in. I believe once they leave it, they have their minds set that they do not want to be apart of it & that is why they are leaving: Their mind is made up to separate themselves from it.
I've just finished the book and while she doesn't specifically address this she does say near the end of the book:
"Brian is Jewish and he took me to his synagogue and taught me about some of his beliefs and traditions. It was interesting to me, but at the moment I'm not in the market for another God."
I guess she doesn't really consider herself anything, and I can't say I blame her.
I don't see how the cult doesn't get in trouble for plural marriages. The constitution does allow freedom of religions, but can limit with laws.
If you listen carefully to her you can sometimes hear that creepy "accent" come out that all the women in the FLDS are taught to have. (watch more videos and you'll see.) I say that with no disrespect to Carolyn. God bless her. :)
I believe it has to do with not seeking to be seen as different or more beautiful then the other. It's seen as vanity & a threat & is frowned on, as she (Carolyn Jessop) said in her interview here. I know it is hard to catch everything with so many details.
I'm reading her book right now. She is a very brave woman and I applaud her. I wish more of these women would see the bondage they are being kept in by their husbands and their religion and would get out like she did.
alot of these women are excluded from society as we know it, and are poorly educated with few oppourtunities not even have access to their own monney, women that manage to leave often loose everything they have and have to learn to live in a whole new world with little or no support from others around them
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The prophet Joe Smith, when caught PORKING his teen maid, "revealed", for the 1st time, that polygamy was ordered by God (Wife #1 didn't buy this BS)
Later only to become legal, LDS flip-flopped on polygamy
Romney's family though, illegally immigrated to Mexico to keep polygamy. (Mitt's dad slipped back across the RioGrande to be fist Mexican American to run for president)
FLDS follows Joseph Smith openly while LDS became more clever with politics and polygamy. It's what their prophet says
dleechristy 3 weeks ago
That one dislike was because he/she didnt approve of that hairstyle at 2:07
RoxxannasHorrorShow 2 months ago
Carolyn, you're my hero!
evocational 2 months ago
For the people who want polygamy banned because allegedly there is the possibility of one or more partners getting abused, I look forward to them taking up the struggle to ban monogamy, since abuse happens there as well. Different relationship structures are not any more abusive, it is the people in those relationships that determine whether they are abusive or not. Just like polygamy, guns don't kill or abuse people, people abuse or kill people.
RatedRepublican 4 months ago
i hope everything works out for her
thanceforever 4 months ago
@ItsYourcailonCN8 Carolyn's Jessop book Escape do you know if it's also aveilable in spanish want to start reding it right now this a hero woman she should help other girls that want to escape the ranch and are brain wash. Congratulations Carolyn for you book. Even if it's not aveilable in Spanish i'm going to try to read it in English with a dictionary on the side as my eNGLISH IS NOT TO GOOD
mariebk10 5 months ago
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S IT TRUE THAT THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS HAS BEEN IN DROUGHT SINCE TRANSFERRING WARREN JEFFS TO TEXAS PRISON????HOW MANY THAT HAVE POSTED HAVE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, UNMARRIED 14 YEAR OLDS? WHAT HAVE ANY OF YOU DONE ABOUT THE BABIES UNDER 14 WHO ARE BEING USED FOR PROSTITUTION AND PORN? UTAH CODE STATES MARRIAGE..14 WITH CONSENT OF PARENT...
NOSERPICOINUTAH 5 months ago
I love this Woman SO much,
brandon10175 8 months ago
@chubbypekingnese- I like your post. personally though I think the issue surfaced when it was made aware of the happenings in the FLDS and the YFZ compounds. Underage and forced marriages are aganist the law. The state left the compounds alone until they were aware of the abuse. Under Jeffs power the religon became a cult. But to agree with your post I, who is not a polygamist, dont see an issue with mutiple marragie between consenting, willing adults who are free to also be themselves.
bear010356 8 months ago
@bear010356 Very Well said i totally agree "CONSENSUAL WILLING ADULTS " not children with no decision making abilities being forced-in to this with fears of being sent away with no family contact and no way to survive. i think the group focuses waay tp much on the religous aspect and much of the problem has a lot to do with 1man trying ti rule an entire community NOT GOOD just like politics and democracy cant satisfy all neither can this!!!!!!!!
NANCYSIMPSON85 8 months ago
@NANCYSIMPSON85 thank you... i've been saying this same thing in other threads
MsPollywogg 4 months ago
She has such an amazing book and she's such amazing person I'm so glad she followed her heart and got away!
LittleM43 9 months ago
Why does the media view polygamy as bad but homosexual marriage is OK?
Shouldnt we allow both since they are both personal choices of the people involved?
Im sure not all polygamist marriages are abusive like not all homosexual marriages will be void of abuse.
If we agree to remove what our society has deemed the "moral norms" then we should allow people to do what they want. Even if you dont like what comes from it.
Isnt that tolerance of other ideas?
chubbypekingnese 10 months ago
@chubbypekingnese i dont think its the polygamy part, its mostly the fact that underage girls are being forced into marriage. So it isnt always their choice, this is what the government is trying to prevent. Honestly i dont think they care about the multiple wives thing at all
yourcriptanite1 7 months ago
@yourcriptanite1 The title is ESCAPED FROM POLYGAMY.
If their beef was about under aged girls getting force into marriage Id think they would have put that in the title.
The age of consent is different in different parts of the country.
I know a few people that would swear up and down that they were "forced" into a bad marriage...and I went to their weddings
Cohersion doent neccessarily meet the legal definition of forced.
Im just saying that the media needs to be just as liberal w/ this
chubbypekingnese 6 months ago
I am glad I'm an atheist. Religious extremism is dangerous.
Theclowcard 11 months ago 3
I just don't know what to think about polygamy in the mormon community. I believe that if it were a jointly agreed situation that had nothing to do with religion that it could work for some families, but when people are born into the lifestyle and feel as though they are in danger of being 'banished' the situation forces people to live unhappy lives. There's also something particularly off-putting about the age differences and forced nature of some of the marriages.
SugarSigur 1 year ago
Just because this woman had a bad experience doesn't mean that polygamy is bad. It means that one husband was bad. Duh.
verse1923 1 year ago
Yes, I agree that she is brave..etc.. ok, agreed. However, let's not get carried away: I TOTALLY believe her story, yes, but come on... I'm sure that her writing a book had SOMETHING to do with receiving royalty cheques, and this appearance plugs it ALOT. Once again, I totally agree; very brave woman, and I do believe what she is saying, but I like to take everything with just a tiny grain of salt and just a tiny healthy hint of cynicism. Just my opinion.
ammarios 1 year ago
What a brave woman.
vtoodler 1 year ago
It is slavery. Some one I know wrote a letter To Senator John McCain about it, and They wrote back we have viewed this as a religious freedom. It's wrong and NON-AMERICAN
GuyItalian 1 year ago 3
can anyone give me any information on how to write a book? I'm from the FLDS and I have another side to the story besides the Polygamy. It's not even about the Polygamy. the FLDS are completely different than everyone thinks. I need to tell my story.
SmitHolm 1 year ago
@SmitHolm Yeah.......
661berkley 1 year ago
I'm glad this woman got a lot of support!!! I think this interview should be enough to justify the "attack" by the feds when they took the children from that compound!! I hope the children are saved from this!
maureen1002 1 year ago
"Escape" is an amazing book and very real and eye-opening. I think everyone should read this. It's hard to believe that even today this is still happening. A great book and Carolyn Jessop is a very brave woman.
722Shellea 2 years ago 5
ban religion
RoadlessPath 2 years ago 7
@RoadlessPath I agree!
lureepatrick 1 year ago
That's nothing compared to what human beings are willing to do in the name of their religion. Look at Islam for chilling examples.
Millicent124 2 years ago
@Millicent124
You mean stop racism, give women the right to vote, advance in society with out being brain washed for sex.
Being the fastest growing religion in the world even after being discriminated for 9-11 when the US destroyed there own WTC which was based on the moques of MEcca just to get oil.
hbk711x 1 year ago
@Millicent124
You mean stop racism, give women the right to vote, advance in society with out being brain washed for sex.
Being the fastest growing religion in the world even after being discriminated for 9-11 when the US destroyed there own WTC which was based on the mosque of MEcca just to get oil and was threatened that Islam is only really the truth.
hbk711x 1 year ago
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@Millicent124
You mean stop racism, give women the right to vote, advance in society with out being brain washed for sex.
Being the fastest growing religion in the world even after being discriminated for 9-11 when the US destroyed there own WTC which was based on the mosque of MEcca just to get oil and was threatened that Islam is only really the truth.
Thank You.
hbk711x 1 year ago
Stolen Innocence & Escape sound like very good books to read. Though the statistic's are few that leave: It is worthy of praise to see these women get out of this twisted corruption of their society/cult that they've been involved in. I believe once they leave it, they have their minds set that they do not want to be apart of it & that is why they are leaving: Their mind is made up to separate themselves from it.
Blessed2BeeAlive 2 years ago
I am reading Stolen Innocence and omg it is so distrubing and makes one wonder why someone can be treated that way you deff have to read it !!
BCBaily 2 years ago
@Blessed2BeeAlive I am reading Stolen Innocence now - what a good book!
lureepatrick 1 year ago
do you think she still calls her self a mormon?
cruwysgirl 2 years ago
I've just finished the book and while she doesn't specifically address this she does say near the end of the book:
"Brian is Jewish and he took me to his synagogue and taught me about some of his beliefs and traditions. It was interesting to me, but at the moment I'm not in the market for another God."
I guess she doesn't really consider herself anything, and I can't say I blame her.
jaseyboy 2 years ago
nope, she said in an interview question that she's nondenominational.
ifautumnends 2 years ago
Thanks, I'll check it out!
bonneeblu 2 years ago
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Do FLDS chicks give up that butthole
bitcheznhos 2 years ago
I don't see how the cult doesn't get in trouble for plural marriages. The constitution does allow freedom of religions, but can limit with laws.
If you listen carefully to her you can sometimes hear that creepy "accent" come out that all the women in the FLDS are taught to have. (watch more videos and you'll see.) I say that with no disrespect to Carolyn. God bless her. :)
Britbrat1988 2 years ago
why do all these women have the same hairdo?
blackxxflamingo 2 years ago
I believe it has to do with not seeking to be seen as different or more beautiful then the other. It's seen as vanity & a threat & is frowned on, as she (Carolyn Jessop) said in her interview here. I know it is hard to catch everything with so many details.
Blessed2BeeAlive 2 years ago
I'm reading her book right now. She is a very brave woman and I applaud her. I wish more of these women would see the bondage they are being kept in by their husbands and their religion and would get out like she did.
petlover60 3 years ago 4
You should read "stolen innocence" by elissa wall she's great . Its about the FLDS polygamy too.
tinateeni 2 years ago
wow this woman is truly an inspiration.
tmakgirl48 3 years ago 49
@tmakgirl48 Her two books Escape and Triumph are fantastic! I have so much respect for her!
Tyjo92 10 months ago
alot of these women are excluded from society as we know it, and are poorly educated with few oppourtunities not even have access to their own monney, women that manage to leave often loose everything they have and have to learn to live in a whole new world with little or no support from others around them
annoymemore 3 years ago 31