its fun stuff, when dealt with properly. But always prepare for the worst. This was a stop gap setup while working on better setups. The best option is to make the bubbler strong enough to handle a full flashback, 2" abs properly glued works well. Adding a blow off valve is even better.
I used a 1 psi mini check valve that i got from US plastics. the reactor will build to 1 psi before cracking and bleading off into the storage tank. Then a pressure requlator for an air spray gun that i bought at harbor frieght controls the flow to the next check valve to the bubbler. you'll need this check valve because those type requlators arn't very sennstive. to put it in perspevtive most natural gas appliances use less than 1 psi .
Why not try something others have not done with these HHO cells. Why not just use a fine mist of water over the cells like in fuel injection. This might allow for less amperage needed to break the bonds of the hydrogen/oxygen molecules.
I was just wondering if stainless steel wood used to scrub pots and pans could be used in a chamber in which the water is sprayed in a fine mist. If it was in a gas state then even better. I believe the only stumbling block is the design issue. Imagination is needed at this point. Like Einstein said, "Imagination is more important then knowledge". :)
Steam would be better because it would take up most of that space. I was also thinking about a different cathode/anode setup. Maybe using a fine steel mesh with a configuration of positive negative positive negative but also alternating the mesh configuration. It's hard to explain without drawing what is in my brain.
meshes get good production volume but at high wattage costs, which makes them inefficeint. But then again I don't have a neural uplink with you to fully understand what you see. You must become part of the collective for that to happen. But try it out please, all the data we can get is great data.
yeah like using a ultrasonic fogger and then having a cell disassociate the 3 micron molecules in to their respective atoms. i might try this as it has been playing on my mind abit and you just gave me the giddy up. thanks
The torch itself is a flashback arrestor, it is loaded with bronze wool, this arrestor/bubbler is the next line of defense/safety, also I have another bubbler next to the cells. So in event of flashback it would have to pass through two arrestors, and two bubblers to get to the cells, and that just isn't gonna happen. The pressure/ volume of flow from the cells keeps it from flashing imediately when lighting it, if thats whats happening the opening of your torch is too big for the hho produced.
just make shure you don't accidently use sttel wool or the big bang (which I personally don't believe in) will happen right next to you
crazyFLkid 2 years ago
Love it...!
FlashBackKiller 3 years ago
Great idea. I'll be putting one of those into my bubbler. I've wanted to ignite hydrogen ever since I first built my cell but never had the guts too!
wh333t 3 years ago
its fun stuff, when dealt with properly. But always prepare for the worst. This was a stop gap setup while working on better setups. The best option is to make the bubbler strong enough to handle a full flashback, 2" abs properly glued works well. Adding a blow off valve is even better.
d3adp001 3 years ago
Yea, I was gonna put a blow off valve on the actual cell, but it's tough to find one that blows at low psi.
Speaking of which. What psi do you think is 'safe'. How much hydrogen pressure are we comfortable building up? How much is typical?
wh333t 3 years ago
I used a 1 psi mini check valve that i got from US plastics. the reactor will build to 1 psi before cracking and bleading off into the storage tank. Then a pressure requlator for an air spray gun that i bought at harbor frieght controls the flow to the next check valve to the bubbler. you'll need this check valve because those type requlators arn't very sennstive. to put it in perspevtive most natural gas appliances use less than 1 psi .
waynefink 2 years ago
I have one left, mine work perfectly, ebay item: 250259501819
amillionemails 3 years ago
Is this arrestor pressure tested..? You can get my arrestor at eliminategas(dotcom, or search ebay for item 250259467598
amillionemails 3 years ago
It seems like you'd need a plasma arc if I understand you correctly vquest. People are trying it. Have you done this?
cribcat1 3 years ago
Why not try something others have not done with these HHO cells. Why not just use a fine mist of water over the cells like in fuel injection. This might allow for less amperage needed to break the bonds of the hydrogen/oxygen molecules.
VisionQuest2012 3 years ago
not understanding what you mean. more explaination please
d3adp001 3 years ago
I was just wondering if stainless steel wood used to scrub pots and pans could be used in a chamber in which the water is sprayed in a fine mist. If it was in a gas state then even better. I believe the only stumbling block is the design issue. Imagination is needed at this point. Like Einstein said, "Imagination is more important then knowledge". :)
VisionQuest2012 3 years ago
I meant to say, Stainless Steel Wool.
VisionQuest2012 3 years ago
something like that would be a good idea, but the chamber would need to be very small to lower the potential energy inside the chamber
d3adp001 3 years ago
Steam would be better because it would take up most of that space. I was also thinking about a different cathode/anode setup. Maybe using a fine steel mesh with a configuration of positive negative positive negative but also alternating the mesh configuration. It's hard to explain without drawing what is in my brain.
VisionQuest2012 3 years ago
meshes get good production volume but at high wattage costs, which makes them inefficeint. But then again I don't have a neural uplink with you to fully understand what you see. You must become part of the collective for that to happen. But try it out please, all the data we can get is great data.
d3adp001 3 years ago
yeah like using a ultrasonic fogger and then having a cell disassociate the 3 micron molecules in to their respective atoms. i might try this as it has been playing on my mind abit and you just gave me the giddy up. thanks
kissmyhho 3 years ago
What is keeping the torch from flashbacking? Is it the brass wool or is it the pressure forcing the flame away? Or something else
I tried a torch test with a check valve & the flasback passed the valve & destroyed my cell.
I'd like to duplicate what you're doing.
Thank you.
Alcyone53 4 years ago
The torch itself is a flashback arrestor, it is loaded with bronze wool, this arrestor/bubbler is the next line of defense/safety, also I have another bubbler next to the cells. So in event of flashback it would have to pass through two arrestors, and two bubblers to get to the cells, and that just isn't gonna happen. The pressure/ volume of flow from the cells keeps it from flashing imediately when lighting it, if thats whats happening the opening of your torch is too big for the hho produced.
d3adp001 4 years ago
yep, that is a 5 star idea ...
SmartScarecrow 4 years ago
thanks, I thought it was a good idea, seems to do its job.
d3adp001 4 years ago
Clever piece of equipment, well done.
babyella07 4 years ago