Faith Defenders Robert Morey Says Hank Hanegraaff Needs Pity

[Onetruthrgv]

seriously larry, What type of christian goes and does such things? You are invalidating the words of God by your actions toward Dr morey. Paul's letters to timothy clearly teach that if a brother has wronged you that you must address him in private and If he wont reason take along a witness. Hope you repent

[srglepore]

Benny Hinn is a flock Fleecer

[Reformer64]

"didn't get much beyond high school...."...Well, that means that he has more education than Simon Peter had.....

[soulkiss1001]

hank hanagraaff is great christian talk 6 -7 p.m. monday to friday and on equip.org

[preteristaynrand]

PRETERISM RULES.

[JCCOUTINO]

corr: Simon : he is ""dead"".

But where is he right now?

I Believe YOU NOW KNOW THE ANSWER.

Don't feel bad, for we all make Mistakes, but when you INSIST and TEACH and PREACH the Contrary, as Paul States: Let Not Many Of You Become Teacher, For Those Will Be Accountable To God For The Many Souls That Will Be Lost (in other words).

Now, CORRECT me if I am WRONG on this issue.

So many books you wrote attacking the water baptism and Once Saved Always Saved. How many have died W Ur Teaching ?

THINK!

[JCCOUTINO]

cont..Is Simon in Heaven W The Lord Jesus Christ In Paradise?

REMEMBER "dr." In The Bible Simon is known as a HERETIC N I believe U know D Verse N Chapter, Even The 1st Historians point him out as to be The Father Of Heresy. Simon went back to his Witchcraft, Kabbalah, and mixed Christianity W his ideologies and preached Demonic Doctrines fooling, and Deceiving Many, even The Christians.

WHERE DOES IT STAND STRONG THE BELIEF OF ""ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED". Do U SEE D PICTURE? Can U COMPREHEND?

[JCCOUTINO]

Mr. Morey: I CHALLENGE YOU to give me the answer to this Reasonable Question:

Philip D Evangelist Baptized (in water) SIMON D MAGICIAN (In Acts), and became a Christian and Simon even tried to buy The Power Of The Laying Of hands , for Philip could NOT TRANSMIT this POWER of The Holy Spirit by D laying of D Apostles hands . Philip could perform Miracles, Signs N Wonders.

History clearly states SIMON, became D Father Of Heresies. The Founding Father Of D Gnostics. He is death. "WHERE IS HE NOW"?

[99galisteo1]

Matthew 5:22....?

[ClumsyRoot]

NOTHING makes me happier or more optimistic than when Christians turn on each other.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot Those who stray from Scripture are not Christians so "We" Are not turning on each other. We are calling out those who are fake.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

Thank you for making my point.

The Bible is such an inconsistent, even muddled work that theological disputes among Christians are inevitable. Believers thus expend time and energy arguing over who are "true" Christians and who aren't. Wonderful!

And a house divided cannot stand--or at least can't cause as much trouble for the rest of us. (I'm particularly pleased at rising popularity of Mormonism, which creates even further division.)

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot Inconsistant to those who are in rebellion. You cannot call yourself a Christian and stand for what Scripture clearly calls an abomination. Your ways of the world are what leads to death.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

No, I mean objectively inconsistent. There's an entire encyclopedia chronicling the internal inconsistencies of the Bible.

And that's my point: There cannot even IN THEORY be a coherent and cohesive theology based on the Christian scriptures. Even if no one were "in rebellion," there would still exist reasonable differences of interpretation due to the Bible's inherent ambiguity.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot What part of "Thou shalt not" is there to be inconsistant about?

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

Funny, I thought there was more to Christian theology than just a list of don'ts. :)

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot There is but as one who is at war against God, there is no use arguing about it. Those in rebellion cite inconsistancies as an excuse to continue in rebellion.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

@BernieEOD

LOL! That's a conveniently self-contained system you've got there. :)

As to biblical morality, answer me this: What is the "true Christian" position on capital punishment? It's clearly sanctioned, even demanded, by Yahweh in the Old Testament, yet it's hard to imagine that Jesus "Turn the Other Cheek" Christ would be okay with it.

I know Christians who support "an eye for an eye," and I know Christians who insist that only God can take a life. Both read the same Bible.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot Before you can answer this question, one needs to answer this:

Who is Jesus?

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

This has nothing to do with me. Don't change the subject.

Either you can tell me God's "official" position on capital punishment, or you can't. If you won't provide me an answer, I'll move on.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot It has everything to do with it. Who is Jesus? Until this is resolved, we have two people referring to two different standards. Until we can agree on who Jesus is and what his mission was, we have no standard to refer to.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

I was under the impression that the Bible is the standard.

My point is that two Christians, each accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior, can still come to different conclusions about moral issues based on their own reading of scripture.

So I ask again: What is the correct Christian position on capital punishment?

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot Also, I would have to correct you. It would be two who claim to be Christian. A lot of people do some very evil things claiming his name.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

I'm not disputing that fact. I'm simply asking what the true Christian position is on capital punishment. Are you going to answer the question, or continue to stall?

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot What fact? Until we establish who Jesus is, anything we do is useless.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

I find it baffling that you can't, or won't, answer a very straightforward moral question. I'm done. Peace out.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot There can be no answer until we agree on who Jesus is.

Since you are anti God, you have no peace

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

LOL! If by "peace" you mean the numb contentment brought about by religious brainwashing, then you're right--I don't have peace. What I DO have is the peace of mind enjoyed by those who look at reality with an open heart and and open mind.

Enjoy your cult.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot I wouldnt call our current state of affairs peace. Not with 1.2 million babies a year being murdered, or drugs, gangs, and other depravities Christ offers us peace from.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

You seem to be on auto-pilot. If you aren't going to bother responding to my actual comments, there's no reason to continue this.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot My "Cult" is about repenting from the depravities of the world and thus not suffering the consequences.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

Your cult is about ignoring reality and trying to escape personal responsibility.

[BernieEOD]

@ClumsyRoot Engaging in sexual immorality and expecting others to pay for it is doging personal responsibility. As is practicing any other sin and demanding others pay for it or clean up the mess.

[ClumsyRoot]

@BernieEOD

Yet Christians engage in sin and rely on Jesus to pay for it--again, an abdication of personal responsibility.

[2black4bet]

@ClumsyRoot What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?(Rom 6:2). the bible never supports Christians engaging in sin so that Jesus can forgive. there is a difference between living in sin or living a sinful lifestyle and committing a sin. For instance a practicing homosexual cannot be presently saved. He/she cannot say this is who God made me therefore He accepts my lifestyle.

[2black4bet]

You are not condemned to hell for not knowing the truth you are in hell for despising truth. Hindus who have never heard of Christ thereby never rejecting him are saved by Christ still based on their response to moral conscience which we all have(Romans 2:12-16) Since Christ is the creator of all things He gave us the light of creation, the light of conscience, and then Himself the light of the world so as Paul states so eloquently we are all without excuse.

[2black4bet]

@ClumsyRoot GODS universe His rules dont like it ? TOO BAD build your own universe Oh wait you cant your finite state prohibits you from doing anything on the level of an all powerful, all knowing, self sufficient self existent, eternal, cause of the first cause, creator God. God is not a rapist He will not force himself on anyone He grants each and every human what they wish He is such a good father even to those who deny so you to mr atheist will get what you wish only it will be for ETERNITY

[2black4bet]

@ClumsyRoot pontificating what God expects NO but I read my bible which is Gods blueprint of His will for mankind. I didnt make this stuff up out of thin air as the Darwinist suppose we originate from. How can a human who is finite establish the existence of a.... You cant put God in a test tube and measure his vitals if so he would cease to be God. And im not threatening you Im just pasing on what God passed to moses passed on to Joshua all the way down to my Bishop to me and now you know

[2black4bet]

@ClumsyRoot (con't) He provided us with the light of creation hoping we would recognize him as the creator. What did we humans do? we worshiped the sun then us so called "intelligent" humans said it was all part of random processes and there is no God? He gave us Himself cloaked in flesh what did we say about Christ? No he is not messiah he was just a man like Odysseus. What more do we want God to do? Come down and stand on top of Mt Everest and say "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME!"

[2black4bet]

@ClumsyRoot God is spirit He is not hiding we just cant see Him with the natural eye. You can give birth what more evidence do you need? When you cut yourself your body heals by itself what more evidence do you need The bible says "without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God"(Hebrews 11:6) What are you going to do to please the one who created the moons and stars what give him a dollar? we are but a speck of dust compared to Him. "We live by faith not by sight"(2 Corinth 5:7)

[doggysector]

Ad-hominem and ranting is the extent of Morey's ability to communicate. Why anyone listens to this idiot is beyond imagination. He is not an educated apologist, and simply will not deal with issues, expecially when someone has a legitimate argument of Calvinism for instance. I have heard Morey say many times to a caller, "you are obviously an idiot" when the caller begins to refute him. Morey is not an apologist, not a theologian. The guy is not worth the price of admission and a liar.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

Thanks for the comments "doggysector." Just to update you & others who may read this, Morey fled California in March 2009 after it became obvious that the California Department of Corporations was going to investigate his suspected securities fraud in the illegal acquisition of his now torn down "church building" in Irvine, California. Morey's excuse was he had to leave suddenly to help his ailing mother-in-law in New York. Latest reports put Morey in Pennsylvania. Google search MOREYLINKS.

[doggysector]

The truth is that Hank is an idiot and stole the ministry from Dr. Walter Martin. On the other hand Morey is a total idiot and is not worth the time of day.

[the1branch]

Who would listen to someone who isn't a certified theologian.. like Peter, James or john? Educated ignorance is also unacceptable..

[goffnett]

AMEN!!

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"goffnett" is saying "AMEN!!" to "the1branch" for his comment which I agree with. Morey's tactic to embellish himself is to bring others down, in this case it is Hannegraaff who has been cast as the villian. Morey has attacked numerous other Christians such as Walter Martin, Josh McDowell, Bob Passintino, Craig Hawkins, & a host of others. Why has he done this? For the same reason he always does it, Morey wants to blast everyone so people will think he's the best overall! Yahoo MOREYLINKS.

[the1branch]

Sorry to be soooo slow but I'm still learning my way around this site.. here it is Nov 2009 & I'm behind enough that I think that it's me in the rearview mirror & I just can't get far enough ahead.. blessings

[goffnett]

College education is the answer to everything. The young little children go before the mass and learn from enlightened ones ... we are so old fashioned for assuming killing babies is wrong, and that it is bizarre that homosexuals are wrong for coming out and bragging about their behavior. They want to get married now.

Lets kill babies after their born, toss them in the dumpster ... and save the baby seals and whales. 40,000,000 since Roe -vs- Wade Child molesters did wrong ??? Help them!

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"goffnet" is making a point of college education & its inability & he is right. In this TRUTHSEEKERBOBMOREY video though it's not really a matter of college education versus ignorance but more a matter of deliberate & calculated slander by Morey. Morey uses "education" as a facade to cloak his real intention in harming Hannegraaff's reputation as best as he can. Criminal fraud & slander are Morey's trademarks (Yahoo MOREYLINKS - Morey is currently under investigation by federal authorities).

[truthseekerbobmorey]

I like your point "the1branch," it is short & succinct. Keep in mind that the one who is making all these high & mighty statements about "education" or the lack thereof, is Morey himself. Morey has set himself up as the final arbiter & judge as if he is actually qualified to do so. This is his "con game" tactic to snow his listeners into believing what he says. If Morey can convince listeners that he is this greatly educated "apologist" then he has won the con game. Don't believe him!

[aadoty]

ok i didn't really understand the point of the video. i must have missed what you were trying to say.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

The point of the video is to expose to the public what type of individual that "dr" Robert Morey really is. He slanders others while exaggerating his own claims. Search for the blog site "The Saint Augustinian" on the internet & go to their current page for the article "Criminal Fraud & Slander Routinely Practiced by "dr" Robert Morey of Faith Defenders." Morey's criminal activities have been reported to numerous law enforcement agencies. Morey is presently "retiring" & leaving suddenly.

[Vaekkrinhart]

Why do have the name "truthseekerbobmorey" then?

I don't get it at all. (?????!)

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"Vaekkrinhart" has asked: "Why the name TRUTHSEEKERBOBMOREY then?" Robert Morey's favorite fraud tactic is to take something & turn it on its head. For example, if someone in his church catches him stealing church funds (this is reported in the 81 page FIRE report, yahoo MOREYLINKS for more info) then Morey will reply that the church member who reported him is "sinning" against the pastor with "slander" even when the report is true. Our name is a joke on Morey, an irony for search engines.

[Vaekkrinhart]

ok. got it. Thanks.

[stoob1969]

Thank God for Hank

[truthseekerbobmorey]

God can use anyone at any time to accomplish His purpose (Daniel 4:35). God used Pharoah (Romans 9:17-22), Nebuchadnezzar (Jeremiah 27:5-7), the Chaldeans (Habakkuk) & even Caiaphas (John 18:14) for purposes ordained for them. God can use Hannegraaff just as he can use Morey. Peter himself declared that Christ's crucifixion was ordained of God but those responsible were still guilty sinners (Acts 2:23). God can still use the wicked despite their wickedness, Bob Morey being a prime example!

[Dominick7]

Hank has a doctorate from what I understand, for what that matters.

[soranneo]

PLEASE GOOGLE this

walter martin on hank hanegraaff

Then look for Walter Martin Ministries Blog

about 6 down on the search this is where the article comes from.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

Soranneo has some interesting information. An update: Robert Morey was kicked out of the national association of churches called Fellowship of Independent Reformed Evangelicals in Sept 2008 for a litany of Proverbs 6:16-19 sins which he still presently engages in. Morey has been reported to 10 law enforcement agencies & is under investigation for a variety of criminal acts including securities fraud. Morey is now suddenly "retiring" & leaving California. Yahoo/Google search MOREYLINKS.

[nickybadboy50]

Hanegraaff is a brilliant theologian. All you need is a sound mind, dedication & determination to understand scripture. Hanegraaff has both. You do not have to know either Greek or Hebrew to know Christ. Anyone with average intelligence can easily break down the gospels if they the have desire. In my experience, the more educated the person, the more the their intellect gets in the way. Many over complicate & over analyze Gods word. David was a poor shepard, Peter & Andrew, humble fisherman.

[nickybadboy50]

"Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

[Dominick7]

Amen to that. Morey has some good info but is an typical arrogant calvinist. It seems pretty evident he's jealous and angry.

[911dispatcher]

@nickybadboy50 Not even close. The Internet has abundant information on Hanegraaff that doesn't gel with your rose colored glasses recommendation. I suggest you do some homework. Read the former employees' testimonies about how he deceptively took over the ministry, the employees who got fired for not rubber stamping his misuse of funds, etc., etc., etc. Go to waltermartin. com and see what Martin's eldest daughter has to say about Hanegraaff.

You'll quit before you read it all. It's ugly.

[911dispatcher]

@nickybadboy50 You did get one thing right... Crystal Lewis is terrific! Wow, that girl can sing.

[THEDemotivator]

"It is interesting that Morey & Hanegraaff do not like each other at all & each discredits the other's ministry. It is also interesting that Hanegraaff moved from the West Coast to the East Coast while Morey moved from the East Coast to the West Coast. Both ministries have been involved in a lot of "drama" over the years."

That's for sure, and with all the rumors of Hank stealing C.R.I. (But I still have listened to him from time to time.)

[SeinUndZeit]

I know Greek and Hebrew. And yes, I also disagree with Hank Hanegraaff... but this video is ridiculous. How pompous and arrogant are you people?

"He doesn't know Greek and Hebrew so he clearly doesn't know better."

THANKS A LOT for making those of us who stress the importance of language look like empty theologians... arrogance, arrogance, arrogance...

[bjobe1964]

Don't know much about Rob't Morey, but I did hear him spend 30 minutes denying a 15-second passage: Acts 2:38, then turn right around and deny that Mark 16:16 should even BE in the Bible. I suppose those verses prick pretty hard as his particular theology, but I thought they looked pretty simple.

[Wormanatti]

Hank barely made it out of high school. SO WHAT? That disqualifies him as being a sound teacher. So what does a person who was a tent maker, fisherman, tax collector or whatever. The holy spirit is the best teacher. The guy in the video is a bumbling idiot. The same guys who attend all these great schools of doctrine and theology. Are the same guys who run around speaking in false tongues, pay tithes, shout & dance claiming it's the holy spirit. What's the point? School vaildates one? NOT!

[albybabeee]

It's plainly ad hominem.

What matters not is his formal education. It's the construction of his arguments.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"Allrequiredfields" here has pointed out insightfully a trait obviously lacking in "Truth Seeker" Bob Morey's moral nature, namely love. "Clanging gong & cymbol" terminology comes from 1 Corinthians 13: 1-13 where "love" must be a motivating factor in our Christian walk & preaching. Morey fails the test here. We've even done a video on this entitled, "Morey Fumbles Words, Angels & Love." Morey says he lacks perceived "love" because he comes from New York City (I didn't say it, he did!).

[BenAliGtor]

On viewing your other posts, the situation becomes clear: one self annointed "expert"(Moray) disses another self annointed "expert"(Hanegraaf). And because the second self annointed "expert"(Hanegraaf)had previously lavished praise upon your own little Weekly Reader effort, you've decided he's somehow more admirable and credible than the first self annointed "expert"(Moray).

Three dim-witted little chimps-all pretending to be "experts"..and fooling no one but themselves.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"BenAliGtor" get a grip! I am not trying to defend Hanegraaff beyond what is feasible. Hanegraaff definitely has skeletons in his closet (any google search on "Hank Hanegraaff" on the internet will tell you that) but my goal here is to focus on Morey, not Hanegraaff. These "truthseekerbobmorey" videos are meant to warn the public about what a fraud Morey is so they will not fall victim to his deceitful schemes (particularly in the financial realm). "Expert" Morey "fools" a lot of people.

[allrequiredfields]

Clanging gong? Resounding cymbal?

[winecheesery]

Hank doesn't deny the foreknowledge of God. He has clearly said that he believes God knows everything. Please try to pay attention and get all facts correct.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"Winecheesery" you need to follow Walter Martin's advice & get YOUR mind in gear. You are the one who needs to PAY ATTENTION! If you will please use your brain you will discover that it was MOREY who said Hanegraaff denied the foreknowledge of God, we did not say it! This video is just another demonstration to show that Morey is a LIAR, get it? Morey does not tell the truth on not only Hanegraaff but on a lot of things, get it? Please watch this video again & perhaps you will understand.

[allrequiredfields]

Look man, you've got to be motivated by love in these conversations about God and his word. If we're s**t-talking on sports or Obama, fine, fire away but lets keep this topic civil, lest we become the hypocrites detailed in the very word we are speaking of.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"Allrequiredfields" is still dealing with "BenAliGtor" & the multiple comments he has made. Since I have already commented to "BenAliGtor" myself I'll let this ride.

[winecheesery]

Ya, I get it. Morey's a douche. I have always enjoyed Hank. I get it.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

Thank you "winecheesery" for "getting it." It is appreciated.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"SaudaraLink" you are correct. Morey has a tremendous problem with pride along with all the other sins listed in Proverbs 6: 16-19. Morey has also claimed that he should have been put in at CRI instead of Hanegraaff which adds to his animosity towards Hanegraaff. The only degree Charles Haddon Spurgeon had was a "BA" degree meaning a "Born Again" degree as he said (which is good enough for me). Morey, because of his Proverbs 6 traits, attacks in all directions. Go saintaugustinian blogspot.

[BenAliGtor]

"The only degree Charles Haddon Spurgeon had was a "BA" degree meaning a "Born Again" degree as he said (which is good enough for me)."

Spurgeon was an evangelist. He never claimed to be a scholar. Hanegraaff-who has no education beyond high school- has never survived formal study of the languages of (Koine) Greek or Hebrew: if presented with an original authograph of scripture (written down as "God breathed" it, and not a translation), could "the Bible Answer Man" even read it? I doubt it.

[allrequiredfields]

"Formal"? I'm no respecter of formalities.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"Allrequiredfields" has commented on "formalities." To cut to the chase in this particular video context is to point to the fact that formal education has its place but not in the way that Morey is using it in his argument here. Morey here is deceitfully arguing that Hanegraaff is supporting "open theism" which is not the case. Morey then "piles on" to his phoney premise by blasting Hanegraaff's educational background. This illustrates Morey's often used methodology in slandering others.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

Ah, "BenAliGtor" you are no "evangelist" or "scholar" yourself, are you? Can you read Greek or Hebrew? You could if you tried. Abraham Lincoln taught himself law before he got into politics. I wasn't aware that Hanegraaff ever claimed to be a "scholar." "Truth Seeker" Bob Morey CLAIMS to be a "scholar" but is he? I can CLAIM to be a "grand master chess player" but am I? Morey makes a lot of CLAIMS about a lot of things but is he telling the truth? His "Islamic Invasion" proves he is not.

[BenAliGtor]

You still haven't answered the question:

If presented with an original autograph of scripture (written down as "God breathed" it, and not a translation), could "the Bible Answer Man" even read it?

BTW, I earned my own doctorate by the time I reached my 26th birthday. Those lacking a legitimate formal education are the first ones to cry sour grapes when confronted by that fact. You may be right about Morey's lack of credentials- but that certainly doesn't make Sham-a-graaf an "expert".

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"BenAliGtor" you seem to be under the delusion that I am here to defend Hanegraaff which is certainly not the case. Hanegraaff just happened to provide a useful platform here to show the public what a liar Morey is. I respect formal education since I hold a BA in Advertising from a major university but that's besides the point. The point here is that Morey is using a canard to attack Hanegraaff (see all the Christian blogs against Morey & his slanders, links at "saintaugustinian blogspot).

[allrequiredfields]

Confronted by what fact? What a boring argument. You could turn this around on those who are formally, legitimately(?) educated, who feel that simply their education arbitrarily grants them authority on matters. I know plenty of "legitimately" educated dolts. Furthermore, unless your doctorate specifically pertains to this conversation, save us the internet-boasting. And is it not Morey, the now apparently uneducated, throwing the first stone? ...honestly, why are you even commenting on this?

[truthseekerbobmorey]

Obviously here "allrequiredfields" is turning his guns on "BenAliGtor" for his "education" comments so I'll stay out of this one.

[SaudaraLink]

Sounds snobby. Christ, Peter, John, etc. did not have advanced education.

[BenAliGtor]

And of course, Luke was a physician in the First Century who never attended medical college.

Some, however, I think if you were diagnosed with cancer, your first reaction after prayer would be to seek consultation with someone whose education & training reflects 20 centuries of advancement: a board certified oncologist, published in a subspecialty relating to your particular diagnosis, and not a self taught quack whose educational background would be more akin to that of Luke.

[BenAliGtor]

**Somehow, however..

(My apologies for this oversight.)

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"BenAliGtor" we accept your "apologies" for your "oversight." Based on what you have said in your several comments your use of the plural form of the word "apology" is appropriate to say the least. In case anyone missed it, the subject of this video is "Truthseeker" Bob Morey and his "oversights." Morey makes a big deal about "high school" Hanegraaff but conveniently leaves out his own numerous shortcomings which are legion (check out his lousy "scholarship" in the "Bloody Mary" video, etc.).

[truthseekerbobmorey]

For our information "BenAliGtor" please inform us of "First Century medical colleges" with their accompanying rosters of professors (with their qualifying medical credentials for being teachers) & their lists of students & graduates. Please document for us your source material for this information & perhaps someone will take you seriously. While you're at it please provide educational data relating to medieval college professors who taught & believed alchemy & the flat earth to the credulous.

[allrequiredfields]

The rather massive oversight here is the necessitation of the Holy Spirit in judging the words and meanings of scripture. The requisites for healthcare are intellect and technology, but God will confound the simply 'educated' man, when trying to make sense of his word from a solely intellectual standpoint.

Your point, although an interesting sound-bite, has no relevance to this issue. Your intent is obviously to discredit Hanegraaff,so you have simply found the wrong youtube video to do so.

[truthseekerbobmorey]

"Allrequiredfields" I like a man who knows his Bible & does not use that knowledge deceitfully. I like your reference here to 1 Corinthians 1: 18-31 particularly verse 27, "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty..."