Zerg Tutorials: Baneling Busting The Terran Doors

[ithinkutoight]

oh god...season 1 maps...blizzard, what were you thinking?!?!

[stormseeker442]

no gg no skill

[ryan98099]

@stormseeker442 wrong

[MrBangerranger]

useless terran opponent didnt scout at all

[batmann12111]

Just wondering, Can you list the build order in the description? It would be a major assistance to do that. Thanks

[pacman1881]

Aspiring baneling busters that BO is around 40 seconds late.

[shorty00104]

kk

[But1kicker]

EHEHE stop licking my foot!

[mottsta]

who walls off with 3 supply depots?

[TheWALOS]

@mottsta

Generally Terran will wall off with two supply depots and one barracks.

[hoykuneho]

@mottsta It's sometimes used instead of 2 depots, 1 barracks. Prevents early scouting of your tech lab/reactor.



[BradenR3]

@mottsta bad players and bronze-gold players like me.

But I dont paly terran, haha.

I paly zerg and toss.

[tritontt1]

@mottsta it hides the tech from the terran

[Demonamic777]

I hate people that leave the game :/ it's like "I fucked up but I don't have to stay for the rest." Shesh.

[KlineStife]

@Demonamic777

i hate ppl that insist on playing even when i destroy their main, natural, and any other expos so i have to hunt down one random center.

[DarenHD]

@Demonamic777 um... I'm guessing you're a complete noob... people don't stay because there's absolutely no point if they're going to lose, but you can just return to game and kill the rest of his buildings if you find that fun.

[noname1247]

GG

[airbourne443]

No orbital on the CC?

[GotenSSJ1]

Why do you keep drawing boxes over your workers then not doing anything with them? seems pointless.

[HrTobiWan]

@GotenSSJ1 just spamming to keep your fingers prepared for later needed clicks / apm

[Exydna]

@GotenSSJ1 to keep up the APM ?

[DarenHD]

@GotenSSJ1 out of boredom, and it's kind of a habit when you play SC2 a lot

[HandOfQuaid]

@wtfyiseverynamtaken check the "spit" on the hatchery? do you mean the larva injection spawn timer? lol news flash bruh. All you have to do to see that is mouse over it.

[LOLitsabunny]

Siege tank + bunker near ramp start = Dead banelings

[rkid1296]

@LOLitsabunny if you dont have sight of the low ground (which is relatively hard to get unless you're on a map with a weird choke) then the seige tank MIGHT get a shot off on the banelings, not to mention 6 banelings > one bunker and four marines. After that your zerglings will easily overwhelm the tank.

[PandaN0od1es]

Very goot azn prwide

[HandOfQuaid]

artificial apm inflation doesn't make u cool

[Opiv337]

Is this guy bronze?

[eeg10]

@Opiv337 No, HD is masters.

[KyvannShrike]

Unfortunately, about half a year after this video, Zerg is STILL a reactionary race.

[GarrettGoodwin1]

wtf is this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PurplezYT]

@GarrettGoodwin1 this is MADNESS !!!

[WeItenspinner]

9 Overlord 13 Extractor 13 Pool 14 Overlord Drones till 16 Thats when the pool gets ready You start a queen and metabolic boost right than. After that just Zerglings and one more Overlord. When you have 50 Gas - Banelingsnest. It is quicker und you will have about 4-6 more Zerglings. This Baneliong-Bust even works in Diamond, when you deny scouting with your first 2 Zerglings well enough.

[maxdekroon]

try 14 extractor, 14 pool 16 metabolic/queen 18 baneling nest.. opponents dont expect it

[zeronitroblackout319]

how many times did u lose?



[meanO3M]

gtx 460, eh?

WHY DOES EVERYONE USE NVIDIA!?!?

[playguru2]

@meanO3M Because NVIDIA is 3 times as good as AMD, but AMD is cheaper

[WeItenspinner]

@playguru2

lol

[morfingax]

you can counter that with a PF and zerg can be GG

[LuckyPalms]

@morfingax Give up mules and scouting? K. I'll just take your barracks in the front and go spire....The actual counter is siege tanks.

[Axeprot]

@morfingax pf requires engineering bay as far as i know and by the time he realizes his frontdoor is cinders he wont have time to build it before the lings wreck the drones

[Toro953]

@morfingax you are so bad. LOL

[darkomen1290]

that poor bastard HD was fighting... his cheesey loss is now on youtube for thousands to see hahahaah

[yisoonshin12]

hey you should do tutorial on how to rush zerglings in the beginning

[Imahaxxor]

I'm a Zerg player myself, not a very good one, but I manage to get around.

To counter this, the Terran needs to block off with stronger structures like a factory or something. That stopped my banebust.

[abusedbunny]

someone did this to me. still demolished him.

[headmess84]

@abusedbunny its not a gamekiller unless players are poor.its quite easy to counter for t ,by making a second wall in and marines behind it to polish the lings off

[HealerPhilantrophe]

(got from another video) Metabolic Boost gives you wings

[StelarCF]

@HealerPhilantrophe Stim gives you wingssssssssssssssssssssssssss

only be sure to have a medivac near.......

....

[WeItenspinner]

@StelarCF

You wont have nether Stim, nor a Starport at this point in the game. ;)

If you TechUp aggressivly maybe a factory, but nothing build from that.

[StelarCF]

@WeItenspinner that doesn't have any connection with the video above other than being SC2

[electroneticTV]

Derric Young must be a very nice guy!

[BIAXlD3NT]

what the fuh... i dont love to wall off... i have to so i dont get zerg rushed.... or bling rushed.

[KeRm1nAt0r]

35 people got baneling busted

[Dillosaur]

As Day9 would say: Baneling BURST.

[Nisshoku1729]

Walling in with only supply depots...

HILARIOUS!

[FishyOnStick]

i still don't understand the point of risking an all in

[engelbak]

thumps up for this build ;D everytime i use it my oppenent rage quits ;D haha :P

[chemao1978]

I'm sorry but I have to say I'm not impressed by this graphics card. This video is noticeably blurry compared to your previous recordings. What video card were you using before? Also, if it was a lower level than the 460, what settings were you using before?

[youdontamuseme]

nullify.. lol



[brainwasher9876]

holy crap, nice insta defeat. Was pulling off the gas drones at 4:05 necessary though?

[WonderWaffleNin616]

for me i dont block off the main entrance and i always put like 2 bunkers near the entrance so will the rush really affect it? cuz after i saw that vid i was thinking that my base wouldnt stand a chance against that

[Vayrday]

Very nice man

[necrogon22]

would this work on protoss if he uses a gateway and a cybernetics core to block off or do you need more banelings and roaches (zealots on the other side...)?

[jamthelamtheasian]

@necrogon22 it doesnt lol i tried all it does is waste your units as protoss buildings have too much shield and hp you can try but id rather for a roach rush or something agaisnt them

[jamthelamtheasian]

@necrogon22 it doesnt lol i tried all it does is waste your units as protoss buildings have too much shield and hp you can try but id rather for a roach rush or something against them

[jontnay]

im always curious, why do "pro" gamers click so mutch, just siting there waiting for minerals, click click click click click click, not even doign naything, just reselecting the same stuff over and over.

[TheSpartanlaw]

@jontnay i dont do it but it apparently keeps them focused... ADHD maybe?

[Kujafalsegod]

@jontnay

Thats just APM spam, the excuse is to keep there hands warmed up although there is partial truth its largely to just have a high APM

[britneyspeared]

Yeah, I'm the 1337th to thumb up :D

[yesiamdaz]

4:50 am lol what are youu up to hd?

[assasinkittyFilms]

stop the fu cking apm spamming, it just sux

[dabest149]

@assasinkittyFilms woah calm down everyone knows apm=skill

[assasinkittyFilms]

@dabest149 hope that was irony, every little noob in starcraft can has 300 apm, poeple who spamm apm so others think they are good are just pissing me

[dabest149]

@assasinkittyFilms i didn't know you can "has" 300 apm

[assasinkittyFilms]

@dabest149 seriously? thats what u say when u run out of arguments? how old are u?

[dabest149]

@assasinkittyFilms Also, what does it mean for someone to be "pissing you"?

[assasinkittyFilms]

@dabest149 lol?

[uberhaggis]

@assasinkittyFilms It's called sarcasm, not irony you dumb shit.

[assasinkittyFilms]

@uberhaggis go home noob. im am tired of answering your senseless comments.

[uberhaggis]

@assasinkittyFilms It was only one comment, dumb bitch. Learn some English and then come back and try insulting me again.

[iceymanjack]

the terran didnt even scout

[Texasisgone]

Dude needs to chill out with the clicking...it doesn't help them get more minerals faster...

[mseab122]

He's lucky the terran didnt scan.

[OMGitsFMA6666]

@mseab122 No terran will waste a scan that early.

[MrBaanaana]

9 overlord 13 extraktor 12 pool 14 metabloic boost upgrade now zerglinks / 16 queen / a bit false but works 18 overlord / 19 banling nest 25 about 6/7 banlinks 25 overlord 29 attack  like it so that everybody sees it

[insanergamer]

holy crap. you need to play this in slow-mo so i can understand what you were clicking on

[antidark001]

Hey HD, please put the in-game timer in your replays please.

[dawad0]

@antidark001 in this game version (before patch) there was no ingame timer :)

[superkerel9]

i was still in the begginers leageu and then somone putted his planetary fortress immidalty next to my base and i was like WTF!?

then he was making barrack but i just got allot of banelings and blasted his planetary fortress and barrack and he sayd that that was an strategy for TVZ

and then he cussed at me. is there a video with that stragety?

(sorry for my bad english)

[demacry]

@superkerel9 Ive never heard of anyone trying to planetary rush a zerg. its generally a pretty bad idea, against any race, but so ineffective against zerg (because of creep). It's not really a viable stratadgy, just one of those quick all-ins that sometimes works, sometimes doesnt, that simply floods the lower leagues. its plays like that, that keep me in the silver league, I just feel no desire to play against people who only want to climb the ladder through cheese tactics, 'specially as zerg.

[nynyaaa]

A more efficient way: no scout drone, 13D gas, pool, overlord, Queen, 4 zergling to take out the scout scv, 100 gas -> speed. 50 gas banel, rally all zergling under the gate, 6 banel when ready, by this way, you should have 12 + speedling and 5 banel., rally in to enmeny base. bust gate, morph 2 banel at the gate so that the gate can't close again. use banel move to scvs and use zergling to take out others.

[propagandaaaaa]

@nynyaaa you need a scout to see that the terran is actually turtle-ing

[nynyaaa]

@propagandaaaaa yes, but use one of the first 4 zerglings. since it's an all in, the more drone the better. the first 4 zerglings do 2 things, 1 kill the scouting scv or prob, 2 scout the gate. it's not that late. save the drone, build a queen, you will get more zerglings earlier

[trancetheking]

so if i scout this i just need 3 bunkers and thats it?

cuz last time it didnt work :(

[TheDolorousSpirit]

noone blocks with 3 depots...

you can even block without any depot or tech lab or reactor, then banelings don't have a chance

[Carnagebk]

I just recently got a gtx460, it is worth it guys. Bit annoying to put in but its so yum.

[kartriders95]

no gg that guys got badddddd manner

[sakkurae]

i have gts250 and max settings no problem

[chuahyphenheng]

if u have enough banelings just bust the barracks folks. the splash will hit the supplies as well if u know how to micro. so barracks alone wouldnt be enough to wall off.

[wowcsgw]

9 overlord

13 Extractor

12 pool

14 Overlord - Zerglings - Queen

a little bit later the banenest

[TheYoungik]

that always worked for me

[joniwhytestar]

if terran block the entrance with the barrack, i think the game would be different.

[userasdf]

@joniwhytestar most terrans have at least 1 supply depot in their wall off unless they're expecting a baneling bust. If they expect it then they just put barracks in the way and the zerg is way behind.

[GReeeeNCREW]

How do you get that weird marine picture?

[sorryifioffendedu]

Why put the build in the description? He gives the game analysis. lol

[Dukholtz]

Macro: Making buildings and units

Micro: Controlling Units

[chaunceyest1]

i won 3 games today by doing that

[Michael94546]

i love camping 3 banelings in the mineral line of my opponent's expansion if a bust doesn't win the game for me, it's SO worth the 3-5 minute wait for them to expand on top of it and maynard scvs/probes to their death

[kukuripopot]

this is slow.

[JimHolland8]

Jes or No?  Watch my stuff. O.K. Fine don't. Be that way.

[TheFlow666]

@JimHolland8 I would have if you spelled "yes" right

[Polymeron]

I'm pretty proud of myself for coming up with this strat myself, without help :)

My macro build was quite different from the 13-12 described here... Still works, though.

[mostyghostly]

34 players who watched this video play terran. =D

[sawsee28]

...i h8 banelingf busts....hard to counter cuz u MUST scout in time or else

[sawsee28]

...i h8 banelingf busts....hard to counter cuz u MUST scout in time or else

[dixen2009]

I would love some zerg vs terran thors.

[Xextreem]

haha gtx 460 good card ? wtf get a new sponser lol. Good tut

[WackoJacko1193]

@Xextreem the gtx 460 is more than sufficient to run this game maxed out, so yes, being that this is a starcraft 2 video, it is a good card.

[Xextreem]

@WackoJacko1193 i don`t see any question asking to you? -_-"

[WackoJacko1193]

@Xextreem ok, youre retarded lol

[Naruto0519]

HD, what are you doing awake at 5 AM >=O You need your sleep, too.

[13ikancu]

great in zerg v zerg 2

[k0masterable]

man just won 4 gAMES IN A ROW because of this.

nice tutorial

[Wragaa]

5 roach has pretty much the same production time, breaks the terran's wall off and gives you an xpo at around 6.5 to 7 mins for if an all in gets null'd, opening you up to tech switch to mass hydra or mass muta depending on what they're teching. It is significantly harder to do, but that's exactly why you should be doing it, and after some practice games against bots to get your build order smooth will dominate sans cheese.

[naruto94565]

@lolcopter97 Agreed

[lolcopter97]

@naruto94565 Thanks mate!

[Dabidapp]

@Wragaa but you will get instantly (not instantly, but quick) shot by the terran player when your 5 roaches stand in front of the supply depots. Because of the higher terrain they cant see them They have to stand right in front of the depots, so they can't take advantage of their shooting range. Right?

[Wragaa]

@Dabidapp

By the time the 5 roaches land at his base he has tops 4 marines or 2 marines 1 marauder. You snipe them with the roaches before taking out the wall and running in with your lings. 7 roach rush is the rage right now tho. Always topics about it on the SC2 forums. I started playing fast expand cause it's more versatile in any case.

[magicianhalo]

That Terran actualy never scanned lol

[YAGGAAA]

@magicianhalo he couldnt

[danm966]

@magicianhalo well u really want to focus on getting mules.

[warpvirus]

u sound so enthusiastic about your game, good on you.. lol

[butters742]

That was epic. just exploded and u win lol.

[Rooslin]

click much?

[111TheTHING]

Build Order: Drone - 9 Overlord Drone - 13 Extractor Spawning pool Drone - 14 Overlord 1 Zergling Metabolic Boost (speed for Lings) 2 Zergling Queen 1 Zergling Baneling Nest Zergling - 23 Overlord 2 Zergling 7 Banelings Spam Zerglings As much as Possible.

[bloodvend1]

omg this guy got owned to tha face!

[Vaelon]

*TERRANS* , DO A FAST SCOUT, FACTORY+BARRACKS+BARRACK = Baneling Bust Nullifier.

Cheers

Kris

[keither2182]

@Vaelon terran is for people that can't play the game well kind of like training wheels for sc2

[Vaelon]

@keither2182

Interesting and really one of the kindest whines I've seen so far mate.

The thing is Keither... I myself play Zerg today. And the reason I played Terran was to learn their tactics so I could counter them as a Zerg.

And you're pushing all Terrans over one line, including SlayersBoxer(worlds best Starcraft player, EVER), TLO, SELECT and every other good Terran players... and you're saying they can't play the game?

Wonder why they TLO, Boxar was in the GSL league...

Cheers

Kris

[Vaelon]

@keither2182

Good Starcraft players would laugh at you Keither... please stop writing pointless sentences like this.

Cheers

Kris

[lolcopter97]

@keither2182 lol ur mom is a training wheel with a horn BEEP BEEP terrant and protos ftw! i bet ur a kid that though sc2 was a fps or something like that true blizz fanz play diablo 1/2/3 sc 1/2 -.- graphics aint the most important but the story so stfu kid!

[gr4ndhustle]

@lolcopter97 actually.. graphics for starcraft 2 are awsomely good for an rts game.. and story obviously fucking rocks hehe.. cheers mate!

[lolcopter97]

@gr4ndhustle yeah im proud i wasted 140 bucks on special edition EPIC GRAPH EPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII­IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC STOREEEEEEEEH :3333

[LongDayAlone]

You rocks!

all the dislikers are 100% noob terran players :D

[Flyff101ers]

@LongDayAlone in that case a lot of people are scared of admitting they are terran players haha

[nadadenadak]

haehuea nice

[SevenPoint83hertz]

hey HD, i really want to thank u for this nice tutorial.

i have been using it on every terran i played since and only lost once against a tripple-wall-in.

much apprechiated :)

[slayer1561]

nice baneling bust at 4:40

[culveyhouse]

Very interesting... i'm trying this as we speak! haha

[alexn138]

Doesn't work (hasn't work for me) if they wall with Barrak and Supply or if they post enough marines at door.

[mikillatja]

i wanna see a build that is good against protos i win against terran but keep losing vs protos. you guys can respond or hd make a tutorial about that :P

[kenmakck]

@mikillatja

have you tried roach rush?

It worked for me pretty well in lower rank games.

[HgM3rk]

Hey HDGamer I would like more Zerg Macro Tutorials please.

I have seen micro but dont quite understand Macro yet, thx :)

[smashingmushr00m]

my build:

13 pool

12 extr

asap: baneling nest

16queen + overlord

speed asap

zergliiingssss

@26 supply boom

[smashingmushr00m]

@smashingmushr00m

i almost forgot i also get a expansion

[JJFZ3000]

Why is the map not part of quick match?

[NuclearCha0s]

This works well even on diamond 1150 + players that don't go for fast reapers. Most of them don't wall off properly.

[ItsNoelDur]

Hotness.

Simply Hotness.

[gooneh]

So if this fails (maybe he had more units out, or his marines and marauders were a further back and survived to kill off your speedlings), is it really game over? How hard is it to transition into a speedling/other combo (e.g. ling plus muta/hydra etc)?

[cascoll2000]

@gooneh I don't mind ZVP but ZVT is just impossible... don't get me wrong I'm not that good at the game I'm a bronze league noob... But there are plenty of times I out macro and micro a terran player and they turtle up and just push out with a unstoppable army and its GG. I mean when you get steam rolled by a "noob's" noob it dosen't feel good. I found a 7 pool with one OL can be nice early cheese with some drone production so if it doesn't work you can hopefully macro up seems to work 2 ^_^

[keegan7ThatMe]

@gooneh I have had that scenerio happen to me and the transtition is pretty good. I just pumped out a few more drones. Also if you can when you are busting make sure to keep producing lings for security. If that helped haha

[Cipher556]

fuck the 460gtx, I have a 480FERMI BITCH

[deepwaterDW]

i did baneling bust with my friend but he already had so many marines and marauders that i couldn't bring any zerling to his mineral lines. Why?

[Cipher556]

@deepwaterDW either you weren't fast enough, or you didn't scout correctly

[deepwaterDW]

@Cipher556 i think i wasnt fast enough, cuz in a 2v2 i said "hey, lets rush him" and my partner said "its not rush anymore"

:( I need more practice

[cascoll2000]

@deepwaterDW more banelins to kill off the marines

[HalBDeU]

thx for the guide hd, i will try to play more agresive ^^ and for all coments that say spam apm is useless, it isnt, its a warmup for the match, like a sport...

[cascoll2000]

@HalBDeU I agree I'm such a noob that when i started playing my amp was like 15... And then I learned hotkeys and spam in the begging of the match and my apm is now like 50 on average even when I don't spam it. It's not better playing but buy spaming apm I've gotten faster with my micro and macro game...

[Lucky466]

@cascoll2000 shut up u nerd apm is pointless in sc2 now

[cascoll2000]

@Lucky466 thanks I'll remember that... Your comment has been so helpful

[Lucky466]

@cascoll2000 well god i sure hope it has... sheesh

[Fablezzz]

Please put the build in the description

[KawaiiKemonomimi]

 Pretty cool move. :-)

[lukesta12]

im not sure why they have supply depots in the ramp instead of bunkers, even though they will get destroyed you wont lose any food

[aaronhedberg]

BRING ON THE BANE-PAIN

[piinoieboiie]

Holyshit. You must be immortal. How do you stay awake.

[Kox300]

0:03 this overlord portrait's animation i extremely cute! makes me wanna hig him :3

[piinoieboiie]

@Kox300 lol you sick person. That thing will devour you and your children.