I've been practising this for hours. I can usually checkmate the king on your site pretty fast, but I do get stuck from time to time. I guess it wouldn't go smooth if it was a real player. Wikipedia says that it only occurs once every 5000 games but I had so much fun that I couldn't stop figuring it out. Thanks :-)
I like this video. It looks like you are using Philador's W method. Would you be interested in posting the method of Deletang's triangles some time as well for the bishop-knight checkmate?
The most important part of the video is to know the king has to be mated on a square the color of the bishop, and the ending mating pattern is always the same.
What is not explained is HOW B + N work together.
The knight works way better on a square of the SAME COLOR as the bishop, creating all together a pushing wall of 4 squares.
Well placed in the middle of the board from the start the king can go around pushing this opposite king inside this wall already blocking the good corner.
Se o Rei volta a A6 a sequência é:1-...Ra6, Cb4...;2-...Ra5, Rc5...; 3-...Ra4, Rc4...(E, se rei volta a A5, joga-se Bispo C7, fechando, e rei A4, Bispo B6 com posiçao anterior) e no mais segue-se a explicação do vídeo!!! se concorda, diz aí, obrigado!!!
I did some tests with Rybka from one of your middle positions by pretty much just moving the Black king through the a7, a8 and b8 squares and it seemed pretty much impossible for Rybka to mate it.
great question. first move Nb4. only move for black is a5. then Kc5. Black must now move to a4. Continue to bring your king down to c4. If black tries to go back to let's say a5 now you can bring you bishop to c7 and force him down the board as he can no longer retreat anymore. This variation is definitely a little trickier but you can still force them down the board. Hope this helps.
lol it's not too common, more like never might this happen. But, like you said it teaches you how to use the bishop and horse combination. Keep up the vids love it
Yeah you are def right. This is rarely seen but still good to know. Like it or hate it, sometimes if I have like a bishop and pawn for king i will promote to bishop just to practice this. Glad you are enjoying the vids.
If you need to force the black back you can put the bishop in front of the king, in between both kings and and knight next to your king. This should force the black king to move back and then you can get a better square with your king. The key is always getting better position with your king and using your other pieces to take away squares. You should be able to force the black king anywhere you want. Let me know if that makes sense.
great question, you will actually do the same thing just in a very slightly different move order. Just move Nb4 and then Kc5 instead of the reverse order if black plays to a4.
checkmate in 50 or 15 moves?
proedgars 1 month ago
I just have WAY to much trouble trying to get the king to the side! he always escapes, or ends up in a repitition position. Very frusterating.
Powerlight958 2 months ago
I've been practising this for hours. I can usually checkmate the king on your site pretty fast, but I do get stuck from time to time. I guess it wouldn't go smooth if it was a real player. Wikipedia says that it only occurs once every 5000 games but I had so much fun that I couldn't stop figuring it out. Thanks :-)
Efermode 6 months ago
@Efermode If you find it out in a rapid chess tournament, with all ppl looking at your board and with 3 minutes on the clock, you will feel the pain.
mozartiano123 5 months ago
But explain us what if he at 9:33 goes back to a6, it looks impossible to mate him in 50 moves! please give an understandable answer please!!!???????
TheSanguineNight 10 months ago
I can't go the black king to the corner !
Need help please.
otinanetan 1 year ago
hurry up :(
ysa722 1 year ago
what is the name of that song??
Ascleipus 1 year ago
I like this video. It looks like you are using Philador's W method. Would you be interested in posting the method of Deletang's triangles some time as well for the bishop-knight checkmate?
MrJasbur1 1 year ago
Song at the beginning please ?
haine920 1 year ago
Did a N + B Mate in 24 moves against the annoying engine from the chess website with my technique.
It's not about being good, it's about understanding how pieces work together.
StubHorn 1 year ago
The most important part of the video is to know the king has to be mated on a square the color of the bishop, and the ending mating pattern is always the same.
What is not explained is HOW B + N work together.
The knight works way better on a square of the SAME COLOR as the bishop, creating all together a pushing wall of 4 squares.
Well placed in the middle of the board from the start the king can go around pushing this opposite king inside this wall already blocking the good corner.
StubHorn 1 year ago 2
Then the end is same as in the second video.
Just found the process of bringing the king all way down the file not to work for me.
StubHorn 1 year ago
I have to ask the same question: what happens if the king at 9.33 goes back a6?
sQrin 2 years ago 3
look two comments down and i go over it
thechesswebsite 2 years ago
Se o Rei volta a A6 a sequência é:1-...Ra6, Cb4...;2-...Ra5, Rc5...; 3-...Ra4, Rc4...(E, se rei volta a A5, joga-se Bispo C7, fechando, e rei A4, Bispo B6 com posiçao anterior) e no mais segue-se a explicação do vídeo!!! se concorda, diz aí, obrigado!!!
MsLedirlima 1 month ago
what should you do if he moves up to a6 at 9:33?
GenericPurpleTurtle 2 years ago
look two comments down and i go over it
thechesswebsite 2 years ago
@thechesswebsite
I don't know there's a 50 moves draw. I thought there were none.
rockmanmegamanfan 1 year ago
@thechesswebsite where do you go over it?
europeanbamf 1 year ago
I did some tests with Rybka from one of your middle positions by pretty much just moving the Black king through the a7, a8 and b8 squares and it seemed pretty much impossible for Rybka to mate it.
Kedislol 2 years ago
consider yourself now smarter than Rybka :)
thechesswebsite 2 years ago 3
@Kedislol Yeah, even from the fame 'T position' it takes Rybka 27 moves.
TheChessvids 2 years ago
Ken, I have a question for you. At 9:37, Black King moves ...Ka4. What if he had moved to ..Ka6?
ChessAmateur1000 2 years ago
great question. first move Nb4. only move for black is a5. then Kc5. Black must now move to a4. Continue to bring your king down to c4. If black tries to go back to let's say a5 now you can bring you bishop to c7 and force him down the board as he can no longer retreat anymore. This variation is definitely a little trickier but you can still force them down the board. Hope this helps.
thechesswebsite 2 years ago 2
lol it's not too common, more like never might this happen. But, like you said it teaches you how to use the bishop and horse combination. Keep up the vids love it
fogfrogblog 2 years ago
Yeah you are def right. This is rarely seen but still good to know. Like it or hate it, sometimes if I have like a bishop and pawn for king i will promote to bishop just to practice this. Glad you are enjoying the vids.
thechesswebsite 2 years ago
LOL your either torturing yourself or your oponents, but I guess its cools if it is for the betterment of your game
fogfrogblog 2 years ago
Your black moves toward the edge, how would you force him out of the middle?
therealsylvos 2 years ago
If you need to force the black back you can put the bishop in front of the king, in between both kings and and knight next to your king. This should force the black king to move back and then you can get a better square with your king. The key is always getting better position with your king and using your other pieces to take away squares. You should be able to force the black king anywhere you want. Let me know if that makes sense.
thechesswebsite 2 years ago
It does thanks a lot
therealsylvos 2 years ago
at 9:31, what would happen if the king went back to a6?
YourBetterOffAsian 2 years ago
great question, you will actually do the same thing just in a very slightly different move order. Just move Nb4 and then Kc5 instead of the reverse order if black plays to a4.
thechesswebsite 2 years ago
nice song dude
jrro0t 3 years ago